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03:02<buzzly>ponas: I only noticed your message now. the irssi right click fix is quite a clever application level solution. ty kind sir
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04:00<piku821>How could I resolve the domain name to my vps?
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04:02<Peng_>Change your DNS records
04:03<Peng_>(You don't have to use Linode's DNS manager.)
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06:15<rut>i am so damn confused with this ubuntu installation
06:15<ponas>how so
06:15<rut>check this ip
06:15<scotti>rut: it pings
06:15<rut>installed every software but it's not working
06:15<ponas>apache is running
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06:16<ponas>what's not working?
06:16<rut>yeah apache running
06:16<rut>but insatalled phpmyadmin
06:16<rut>it's not visible on
06:16<rut>even also can't access my server via ftp
06:18<Peng_>FTP or SFTP?
06:19<rut>i dont know
06:19<rut>i am really new here in fact
06:19<rut>i just want to upload my webapplication
06:19<rut>which developed in php
06:20<rut>so i bought this server but i am damn confused now
06:21<rut>i have installed php5, apache, phpmyadmin everything
06:21<rut>but i dont know what to do now
06:22<rut>can anyone provide me a perfect link, which can guide me easily to setup ubuntu 14
06:24<rut>anyone here to help me?
06:31<Zimsky>maybe you could pay someone to do it for you
06:31<Zimsky>Peng_: we are a search engine
06:32<Zimsky>have you considered this?
06:32<Zimsky>also have you considered life in the grand scheme
06:33*jhaas writes in python so doesn't use this
06:33*bmartin writes on paper and is scared of snakes
06:34<rut>Thanks Zimsky, I will try once your given link. Yes I can give it someone else but I want to learn this, how to setup server.
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06:39<tanja84dk>I'm having a small issue. I have tried to follow this guide to setup our new openvpn server on a new linode, but for some reason then I'm getting a error with TLS ( maybe bad encryption/certificates ). What can I do to try to fix it
06:40<tanja84dk>the error is "TLS_ERROR: BIO read tls_read_plaintext error: error:14090086:SSL routines:ssl3_get_server_certificate:certificate verify failed", "TLS Error: TLS object -> incoming plaintext read error", "TLS Error: TLS handshake failed"
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06:41<Zimsky>check your compression stuff matches on both ends
06:42<Zimsky>just thinking about the "read error" bit
06:43<scotti>mikegrb: why did you quit Linode sir
06:43<scotti>you and dwfreed
06:43<scotti>is there some internal company drama going on?
06:45<tanja84dk>Zimsky, well the client that I try to connect from is actually the client there have generated the certs, keys etc because the guide said you shoudnt create them on the vps. So I would think the compression should be okay. I have also just to be safe taken the server config and client config from the tutorial just to make sure the settings should match
06:45<tanja84dk>Zimsky, but thanks I will try look at that again
06:47<nate>scotti: People can't ever leave companies simply because they found better jobs or more suitable ones?
06:48<scotti>nate: why the hell would you ever think that
06:48<scotti>of course they can leave
06:48<scotti>but my question is why did mikegrb and dwfreed leave
06:48<scotti>after a decade
06:48<nate>scotti: The fact they're still in here hanging out and helping people at least to me feels like common sense would imply unlikely to be dramatics
06:49<scotti>nate that totally means there is drama
06:49<tanja84dk>Zimsky, but the weird thing is actually I have never got TLS to work on openvpn even on the old server
06:49<nate>I can think of a variety of reasons people would quit a job, especially after a decade
06:49<scotti>internal company drama we can't see on IRC
06:49<nate>lol okay
06:49<scotti>IRC != IRL
06:49<scotti>Linode makes their employees show up in person
06:49<scotti>that's where things get PERSONAL
06:50*nate waddles away from the tinfoil before it interferes with his wifi signals :P
06:50<Zimsky>tanja84dk: make sure both sizes are using compression (comp-lzo) or not
06:51<Zimsky>nate: depending on a number of factors, the tinfoil hat might either attenuate or amplify signal propagation
06:51<tanja84dk>Zimsky, none of the sides are using that
06:52<tanja84dk>Zimsky, could it be a tls-cipher issue where one of the ends dont support that tls-cipher
06:55<Zimsky>nate: also, why are you not using PTP encrypted tunnels along armoured fiber lines
06:55<Zimsky>it is most secure
06:55<Zimsky>tanja84dk: it could be
06:55<Zimsky>make sure those are the same too
06:57<linbot>New news from forum: Email/SMTP Related Forum • Solved! OSSEC error with sending mail to gmail account <>
06:58<Peng_>scotti: IRC is real life
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06:59<tanja84dk>Zimsky, They were the same also
07:00<Zimsky>Peng_: no it isn't
07:00<tanja84dk>I guess I'm going to reinstall the server again to see if there were some issue that I dont know what were
07:00<ponas>tanja84dk: that actually sounds like a waste of time tbh
07:01<ponas>tanja84dk: just continue debugging :-)
07:01<Zimsky>wouldn't reinstall the server
07:01<Zimsky>maybe redo ovpn if absolutely necessary
07:01<Zimsky>but the configs are so simple
07:01<tanja84dk>ponas, well the only thing that were on the server were a frest ubuntu and then the openvpn. Nothing from the production were moved yet
07:01<ponas>still though
07:02<tanja84dk>ponas, and I have used the last 13 hours to try to find the issue
07:02<Zimsky>I am somewhat inebriated at present and don't really know how this keyboard works, but it's magical
07:03<tanja84dk>and everything were setup as in the tutorial ( checked several times ) so I actually dont think it is a config error
07:03<ponas>does it work if you try a different client?
07:03<tanja84dk>because if it is then there is a error in the tutorial on the linode tutorials
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07:04<tanja84dk>no have tried 3 of our productions servers as client
07:05<tanja84dk>and they are able to connect to our older openvpn server, but that server is not that secure wich is the reason I wanted to get the new up
07:05<@jhaas>are we talking about server-side encryption certs or client-side auth certs?
07:05<@jhaas>based on that error from before I was wondering if it might have just been a self-signed verification problem or something
07:06<tanja84dk>jhaas, TLS enryption actually dont know if its server side or client side
07:07<tanja84dk>jhaas, its from this tutorial
07:10<tanja84dk>but I'm in the middle og trying to reinstall it now to make sure that I have done everything as in the tutorial
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07:15<tanja84dk>so lets see in 15-20 minutes if it works this time
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07:34<tanja84dk>Zimsky, I think I know what the issue is or maybe I'm wrong
07:41<tanja84dk>isnt there some files you have to copy to the server so it know about the clients? The tutorial is only talking about copying files to the server after you have created the keys for the server
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07:42<@jhaas>i think the tutorial has you make one cert pair for the server and the another for all clients; if I read it correctly each client will use the same login cert
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07:42<@jhaas>i haven't gone through it line by line but yeah, I'd imagine both those things have to get copied to the server at some point
07:42*jhaas might try this guide when he's out later
07:44<hawk>Looks like one keypair per client, which seems more sane
07:45<@jhaas>womp yep i read that wrong
07:45<@jhaas>"Each client device connecting to the VPN should have its own unique key and identifier (client1, client2, etc.). All other certificate information can remain the same"
07:45<tanja84dk>jhaas, its one key pair for each client, but for some reason it only talks about copying to the server after you have generated the keys/certs for the server and before you generate for the clients
07:45<hawk>tanja84dk: Anyway, the server knows the clients based on the clients having certificates signed by its trusted CA
07:46<tanja84dk>hawk, but what i revoke a client
07:46<hawk>tanja84dk: Then you regenerate the CRL (and make sure the server uses it)
07:46<tanja84dk>should I then have to generate completely new certificates for everyone
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07:47<tanja84dk>I guess I will go back to the old less secure then because that is a pain
07:47<tanja84dk>so no TLS
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07:47<hawk>(If that guide doesn't cover the CRL part, that would be a bit of an oversight.)
07:48<tanja84dk>just think if there is 1000 clients and everyone has to be reconfigured just because one server key is lost
07:48<tanja84dk>instead of just be able to revoke that key
07:48<hawk>12:46:42 hawk | tanja84dk: Then you regenerate the CRL (and make sure the server uses it)
07:49<tanja84dk>and crl is?
07:49<hawk>Certificate Revocation List
07:51<hawk> see crl-verify
07:52*tanja84dk is thinking why is openvpn-as even for private there only need a few numbers of licens
07:55<tanja84dk>hawk, because then everything cound be managed from the web portal
07:55<@jhaas>tanja84dk: not sure where you stopped, but I'll note the guide you linked is part 1/3
07:55<hawk>tanja84dk: I didn't understand that previous sentence at all, hence the "??"
07:58<tanja84dk>hawk, well if openvpn-as wasnt 150$ each year for hosting is self when you need more then two clients ( 15$ each client ) then I would have moved it to that system
07:59<hawk>tanja84dk: Ok, what you said now I can understand. The previous thing was just a pile of words that didn't seem to go together.
07:59<tanja84dk>jhaas, what well I only needed the openvpn server running and I have not seen anything about it should be a three part
08:00<tanja84dk>then it should have been stated in the title
08:01<tanja84dk>jhaas, I guess that that I have to look around for another tutorial
08:01<@jhaas>part 2 is linked in the intro
08:01<@jhaas>but i agree it could be more obvious; i'll see if i can bother someone about that
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08:03<tanja84dk>jhaas, but again its also saying in the end of the page "You should now have an operational OpenVPN server and a set of certificate/key pairs for your desired client devices." And that I do not have after following that tutorial
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08:05<tanja84dk>jhaas, but I do not need the tonnel routing there should be in part two and also the client side i dont care about. I just need a closed network where the servers are able to talt secure without using public interfaces
08:11<tanja84dk>but two seccondt I'm in the middle og rebooting the test server to see if its connecting or still failing
08:17<tanja84dk>jhaas, I got it to connect now but I have no idea of what i did wrong in the first attemp
08:21<tanja84dk>ponas, So i'm sorry to say it but for some reason it did help reinstalling and starting from scratch
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08:32<mrbichel>Would anyone have advice how to backup postgresql database from finnix? Can't seem to run pg_dump in recovery.
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09:00<tanja84dk>hawk, but to be hournest I cant get my head around how to configure such a crl list
09:01<tanja84dk>but I will try to see if I can find some youtube tutorials on it over the next couple of days
09:02<hawk>tanja84dk: You mean how to create it (with easy-rsa)? Because I named the openvpn setting that you would use once you have the crl
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09:05<tanja84dk>yes how to create it and manage it with easy-rsa. And I'm sorry if some of the things I say don't make sence, mainly because of all that headache over those issues over the past 13 hours
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09:09<hawk>tanja84dk: It comes with a script for revoking certs, iirc that also creates/updates the crl
09:11<hawk> see revoke-full (I think that's the version you are using? looks like it in that guide, anyway)
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09:57<tanja84dk>hawk: sadly the revoke-full command is not there
09:59<tanja84dk>hawk: and I'm running easy-rsa 2.2.2-2
10:04<tanja84dk>never mind forget the two last messages. I it were a mistake from me because I thought it were a system wide command and not a script their were in the ca folder
10:09<tanja84dk>and thanks hawk I have now tried to revoke a test cert and it did work
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10:11<mmccurdy>What is the linode limit?
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10:11<smallclone>mmccurdy: not sure i understand the question. limit to what?
10:11<mmccurdy>How many linodes I can create
10:11<smallclone>i believe it's 20 by default for a new account
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10:12<mmccurdy>If I wanted increase that, what would I need to do
10:12<smallclone>open a support ticket
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10:13<mmccurdy>Ok but what do I tell the people on the ticket
10:13<smallclone>tell them why you want to increase your linode limit
10:14<mmccurdy>Ok thank you for your time
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10:29<tanja84dk>hawk, the only weird thing that I see that is that openvpn for some reason dont care of reload or restart the service but for me that is fine. I will just then restart the server if a revoke is needed
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10:33<tafa2>reboot one of my linodes - doesn't come back up - glish says "kernel panic not syncing"
10:33<tafa2>uhm... help?
10:33<tafa2>It's been fine for a few months, its a direct disk boot, everything seems ok
10:34<tafa2>and.... now its back?????
10:35<gparent>glad we were able to help
10:36<ericoc>!point gparent
10:36<linbot>ericoc: Point given to gparent. (1)
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12:03<smallclone>hi, feel free to ask your question
12:03<mimo>i need a smal rdp
12:04<smallclone>not sure what you mean
12:04<mimo>but i want to preinstall a programe before
12:05<smallclone>i don't really follow
12:05<smallclone>...what are you trying to install? and what are you trying to do after you install it?
12:05<mimo>am working with it
12:06<mimo>its surfer
12:06<mimo>isit possible
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12:09<smallclone>mimo: honestly i still have no idea what you're asking, i think the language barrier is a but much to get past here.
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12:10<mimo>you know RDP
12:11<smallclone>yeah, that is a windows protocol
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12:11<smallclone>Linode does not offer windows
12:11<mimo>you sell them
12:11<smallclone>not with windows
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12:12<smallclone>yes, linux
12:12<mimo>Debian 8 + ext
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12:13<smallclone>debian 8 is available
12:13<mimo>so you can install firefox and winrar .....ext
12:14<mimo>hhhh yes
12:14<smallclone>running a gui on a linode is probably not going to be fun
12:15<mimo>so i inderstand from you
12:15<mimo>there is no interface for any offer
12:15<smallclone>it does not come with a gui installed
12:16<mimo>so i cant run any program
12:16<smallclone>you can run just about any program that runs on linux
12:16<smallclone>including a gui, if you install one
12:17<mimo>but there is winrar lunix version
12:17<mimo>for exemple
12:17<mimo>can you send me a screenshot to more inderstand
12:18<smallclone>you can use something like 7zip to unzip rar files
12:18<smallclone>by default you just have ssh access to a command line
12:19<mimo>ah no
12:19<mimo>its not useful for me
12:19<smallclone>ok, you should probably go with a provider that offers windows then or something
12:20<mimo>yes i hope
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12:20<mimo>thaks for answers
12:20<mimo>have a good day
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12:55<karyoker>how can i stream to website or domain i own?
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12:56<Eugene>Every day I'm Linodin'
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13:00<mgarcia2228> I have two questions about the elastic cloud service in Europe
13:00<mgarcia2228> Is there any to answer?
13:01<cbirk>just ask your question mgarcia2228
13:02<mgarcia2228>Thanks.I have a service in another provider for a small mail server and I have found that the IP is blacklisted
13:02<mgarcia2228> Do I have any guarantee that this will not happen?
13:03<cbirk>IPs are reputation based
13:04<cbirk>so if you switch IPs and are sending spam email
13:04<cbirk>then you will get shitlisted again
13:04<cbirk>do you know why you got blacklisted?
13:04<Peng_>If you get an IP that already has an unusually bad reputation, Linode should be willing to change it for you.
13:04<cbirk>that as well ^
13:04<Peng_>(Which you can do anyway by creating a new Linode.)
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13:05<cbirk>you could check the IP prior to switching your mail server over
13:05<mgarcia2228> It was not me, it went to ALIBABA
13:05<cbirk>i use mxtoolbox for that
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13:06<mgarcia2228>.... very bad to send emails. Gmail does not support them. ALIBABA has not heard me
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13:07<mgarcia2228>All ALIBABA elastic cloud service IP's are blacklisted by spamhaus
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13:09<mgarcia2228>second question. Is there a promotional code to try the service ... about fifteen days?
13:09<relidy>mgarcia2228: There's a 7 day trial period baked in. "If you're unsatisfied for any reason, you can cancel your account within the first seven days and request a full refund, no questions asked."
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13:10<mgarcia2228>third question. Can we pay via PayPal?
13:11<smallclone>you need to have a working credit card on file and submit an initial payment with it
13:11<smallclone>then you can preload your account via paypal
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13:13<mgarcia2228>OK, Thank you
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13:14<@scrane>Hey there!
13:14<jamesjiang>how i cant create and delete nodes
13:15<jamesjiang>i can't find api
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13:15<jamesjiang>Who can help me
13:16<@scrane>I'm sorry, just to clarify, you are having troubles creating and deleting Linodes through the API? Are you able to log into Linode Manager?
13:16<jamesjiang>i want to create node by api
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13:16<@scrane>Were you able to previously create Linodes through the API?
13:16<relidy>jamesjiang: or the newer
13:16<jamesjiang>The linode API is not very friendly
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13:17<jamesjiang>The linode API is not very friendly
13:18<@scrane>I can understand that, I'm just trying to get an idea of where you are running into an issue with it. Are you using the APIv3 or APIv4 beta?
13:19<jamesjiang>For example, create a node to start it
13:20<@scrane>Okay, Are you able to create Linodes using right now?
13:20<jamesjiang>Give me an example by api with token
13:20<jamesjiang>scrane OK by web
13:21<linbot>Please paste longer snippets over at and not in the channel
13:21<jamesjiang>but i want to automation
13:21<@scrane>Yeah, that makes sense. I am just making sure we have the basics covered as well to make sure I can give you the best answer.
13:21<jamesjiang>i us C
13:21<jamesjiang>i use C#
13:22<jamesjiang>You can have a full protocol with parameter call/linode.create
13:23<jamesjiang>Linode 1024 for ex
13:23<jamesjiang>I want to create a Linode 1024 and boot it
13:24<@scrane>IIif you are using C#, this guide might help:
13:26<jamesjiang>33/5000 Linode.create () I would like to have a detailed example of the parameters. Thank you
13:27<jamesjiang>can you help me?thx
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13:28<@scrane>Hrm this is a bit outside my expertise, but let me do a little digging and see if I can't provide you with some answers.
13:28<jamesjiang> I don't know how to pass parameters
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13:30<relidy>jamesjiang: The parameters are passed as GET parameters on the HTTP request. "All API request parameters and method parameters can be sent via either GET or POST variables."
13:30<relidy>It's in the intro section of the documentation at
13:30<jamesjiang>@relidy yea
13:31<jamesjiang>{"errors": [{"reason": "Invalid OAuth token"}]}
13:31<jamesjiang> ret
13:32<@scrane>Are you including your API token in the Get?
13:33<@scrane>If you haven't generated one, you will need to generate it in "My Profile" in Linode Manager.
13:33<relidy>Is that a valid error message for APIv3? It's not listed in the error codes section. It doesn't use OAuth
13:34<@scrane>Hm, let's do this instead of guessing. Can you paste your call into PasteBin and share that? Just make sure to censor your API key.
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13:44<jamesjiang> i han find it
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13:49<dwfreed>scrane: stop dragging up things that are ancient history; I left in 2013, and Mike in 2014
13:49<dwfreed>erm, sorry, tab fail
13:49<dwfreed>scotti: ^
13:49<@scrane>I was gonna say
13:49<dwfreed>scrane: should have double checked that
13:51<@scrane>Oh, and Jamesjiang left... well that's good, because I definitely don't know how to make calls with C#
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14:09<linbot>New news from forum: Linux Networking • High availability for IPv6 <>
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14:33<FluffyFoxeh>2013 is ages ago
14:33<FluffyFoxeh>dwfreed is really old
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15:29<ericoc>i'm even older than dwfreed D: and left linode before him, but still <3 them
15:29<ericoc>and i turn even older next week :O
15:37<@scrane>And we <3 all of you too!
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22:07<masum>any one there?
22:07<millisa>only me and 346 of my closest friends
22:08<masum>you from linode support?
22:08<millisa>Nah. Just a user.
22:08<linbot>If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read
22:09<masum>Linode 1GB
22:09<masum>is it dedicated server?
22:09<millisa>they are all VPS
22:10<masum>i need dedicated server to rent
22:10<masum>not shared
22:10<Woet>then dont buy from linode
22:11<Peng_>What do you mean by dedicated and shared?
22:11<millisa>It's not shared within the OS you install if that's what you are looking for.
22:11<Woet>clearly this guy knows what he's talking about
22:11<Woet>else he'd be asking us questions
22:12<masum>ok thanks all
22:12<Zimsky>I'm dedicated to Woet
22:13<kyhwana>not me
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23:39<Krishna>Hey guys...I am from india...i am looking for a cloud server for our video application
23:40<Woet>what do you mean by "cloud" server?
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23:41<Krishna>A config with 8core cpu 8Gb ram Debian OS minimum bandwidth of 20 Mbps down / up as of now
23:41<millisa>Linode's offerings are at
23:42<Krishna>I want to know how many data center do linode has in the world ?
23:42<Zimsky>check the website
23:42<millisa>On your world? 8 I think.
23:43<Krishna>Yes it is 8
23:44<Krishna>Is there any customised plan available in linode ?
23:45<Krishna>All i can see in your site is pre-customised it possible to have a customised plan ?
23:45<millisa> is what they have.
23:47<Krishna>Ok thank you
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