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#linode IRC Logs for 2017-12-02

---Logopened Sat Dec 02 00:00:48 2017
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00:11<dwfreed>Hey, who's working right now?
00:11<millisa_>i'm watching the orville. that's like working, right?
00:11<dwfreed>millisa_: I meant at Linode :P
00:11<millisa_>they aren't here.
00:11<millisa_>not watching the orville anyways.
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00:56<bhanks_>only the robots are working at night time!
00:56<bhanks_>no just kidding we are here <3
00:57<dwfreed>bhanks_: could you see if anybody on the security team is awake? if so, could you have them PM me?
00:57<FluffyFoxeh>ops list looks a little thin
00:57<FluffyFoxeh>maybe it was the split?
00:57<dwfreed>probably
00:58<dwfreed>the autolimit gets in the way when a node dies
01:00<dwfreed>bhanks_: if not, I'll just file a ticket so you have something to escalate
01:01<bhanks_>typically ops would be lurking around in the daytime hours so your best bet is going to be a ticket.
01:02<bhanks_>if you want to create that and pass me some details I can grab it and take a look for you
01:02<dwfreed>k, I'll give you the number once it's in
01:02<bhanks_>you're the best, thanks!
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01:24<dwfreed>bhanks: #9332441
01:26<bhanks>thanks for the heads up I'm gonna pass this on to the right people.
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01:27<dwfreed>bhanks: I'd wake them up if I were you
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01:29<dwfreed>Even if it's just for them to decide that they'll take care of it a bit later, I'd still want them to make that decision
01:41<bhanks>we're on it now. thanks dwfreed
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02:54<Woet>dwfreed: ill buy your exploit for $30k
02:54<Woet>let me just find some BTC linode customers
02:57<bhanks>settle down children!
03:03<Woet>i dont think anyone here is a child
03:03<Woet>Zimsky just acts like one
03:05<Zimsky>bhanks: what?
03:05<Zimsky>why are you calling people children
03:13<dwfreed>Woet: sorry, no amount of money is worth the CFAA charge
03:14<Woet>dwfreed: i wont tell it was you
03:14<bhanks>...
03:14<Woet>they never caught the people who hacked linode and stole all the BTC last time
03:14<Woet>nothing to worry about
03:14<dwfreed>I already summarized the issue in the ticket
03:15<Woet>alright the deal is off then
03:15<Woet>pm me first next time
03:15<dwfreed>yeah, no
03:16<Woet>does linode even have a bug bounty program?
03:16<Woet>like, one that tells you how much you'll get
03:16<dwfreed>no idea
03:22<Woet>Zimsky: why is everyone being so boring
03:22<Woet>we need some excitement here
03:22<Woet>wheres jiggawattz when you need him
03:23<Zimsky>Woet: huh
03:32<Peng_>Woet: What do you think of plaid clothing?
03:33<Peng_>I consider it to be of moderately positive emotional value, if I may be permitted to be so bold.
03:34<dwfreed>flannel is great
03:35<Zimsky>liar
03:37<Woet>Peng_: thank you for asking, I own many plaid shirts myself, so while my opinion might be biased, I consider it an easy way to look more upscale than I actually am.
03:38<Peng_>I have no plaid shirts at all. I have a pink striped shirt, which I consider a good way to get murdered.
03:39<Woet>are they horizontal or vertical stripes? one of them makes you look fat, although which one changes every few weeks
03:39<Woet>unless you're Zimsky, then theres no hiding regardless of any stripes.
03:40<Zimsky>why on earth would someone want to murder you, peng?
03:41<dwfreed>I have a purple dress shirt i wear with my suit
03:41<Woet>you clearly don't know Peng's dark side
03:42<Woet>he used to be a teacher until he got cancer
03:47<Cromulent>dark
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03:49<Zimsky>you can dry paint with a hat
03:49<FluffyFoxeh>no you can't
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03:49<Zimsky>this matter does not concern you
03:49<FluffyFoxeh>don't do that
03:51<FluffyFoxeh>drying paint with a hat sounds more fun than watching it dry on its own, however
03:52<Woet>you can dry paint with anything
03:52<Woet>since it dries on its own
03:52<Woet>you can dry paint by watching TV
03:52<Woet>i tried
03:52<FluffyFoxeh>whoa, that's wizardry
03:52<Woet>thank you
03:58*rsdehart dries Woet by watching TV
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04:45<linbot>New news from forum: Web Servers and Web App Development • Everyone Has Same IP <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14621&p=75268#p75268>
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05:12<Arvind>hi
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05:13<Arvind>I want to host website on linode
05:14<rsdehart>excellent. Do you have a question?
05:15<Arvind>please tell me best plan for my website: www.pricefindout.com
05:15<rsdehart>we don't know
05:15<rsdehart>it's easy to scale up, so start with the smallest
05:15<rsdehart>migrating to a larger plan is very quick and easy
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05:16<rsdehart>next!
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05:26<Zimsky>rsdehart: I need to process multiple terabytes of genomic data
05:26<Zimsky>what do
05:27<Zimsky>I can pay in marbles
05:27<rsdehart>Zimsky: start with the smallest number of terabytes and scale up as necessary
05:27<Zimsky>what if scaling up doesn't work? should I scale down?
05:27<Zimsky>or scale to the left?
05:27<rsdehart>I misspoke. Try scaling right first
05:28<Zimsky>history has taught us scaling to the right usually ends in tears though
05:28<rsdehart>that will usually do the trick
05:28<rsdehart>no no, that's what they want you to think
05:28<Zimsky>the fish?
05:28<rsdehart>the roundworms
05:28<rsdehart>they're the ones who give orders to the fish
05:28<Zimsky>roundworms are no joke
05:28<rsdehart>indeed
05:29<Zimsky>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toxocariasis
05:31<rsdehart>seriously though, now you've got me thinking about the prospect of terabytes of genomic data, and it's appealing
05:37<Zimsky>come by my office any time
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05:51<oj>Hi Guys
05:52<oj>May i ask if we do we have support here on chat?
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05:57<oj>?
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06:39<spiros>hello
06:39<spiros>what is the price of lino managed services ?
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06:40<Cromulent>!managed
06:40<linbot>https://www.linode.com/managed
06:41<Cromulent>$100 per Linode per month
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06:49<coder4life>Anybody here?
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06:49<coder4life>Does anyone know if I can get hosting plan with larger sdd?
06:50<coder4life>I am looking for hosting for mining bitcoins and it needs large disk
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07:01<Cromulent>coder4life: you won't be able to mine many bitcoins on a Linode - as far as I know you need multiple GPUs to make bitcoin mining worthwhile
07:04<coder4life>Actually I will be running a mining pool for monero
07:04<coder4life>The block chain takes up 34G harddrive space
07:04<Peng_>Linode 4GB has 48 GB of disk space
07:05<Peng_>Block storage is in beta in Fremont and Newark too
07:05<coder4life>You mean I can get additional space ?
07:06<Peng_>With a beta service in Fremont and Newark
07:13<tanja84dk>Peng_, is it only those two data centres there is able to get the block storage beta
07:13<Peng_>Currently
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07:35<linbot>New news from forum: Linux Networking • High availability for IPv6 <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=10835&p=75269#p75269>
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08:52<Awais>How many Wordpress websites I can host on linode $5 plan ?
08:52<Awais>anyone here ?
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08:53<Peng_>How many do you want to host?
08:54<Awais>2
08:56<Peng_>That should be fine.
08:58<Awais>ok
08:58<Awais>thanks for guiding
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09:20<Woet>why did you even ask that Peng_
09:20<Woet>you know that's bullshit
09:20<Woet>the answer is between 0 and 999999 depending on many factors you didn't bother asking him
09:20<Woet>i rate you 0/10
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09:40<Zimsky>so much care, woet
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10:39<panda>sftp question - I have not been able to connect through filezilla. Do I need to open port 22 through linode manager?
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13:16<SevenTwenty>Doe Linode allow full SSH access to every server?
13:16<millisa_>you can allow it to your servers
13:17<SevenTwenty>Okay. So there is some setup to use SSH?
13:17<millisa_>if you install an OS that has it open, sure.
13:18<millisa_>(linode doesn't filter ports or do much of anything to the os you install on the hardware; that's all on you)
13:19<SevenTwenty>millisa_, I need a simple server with shell access and remote SSH access. What do you recommend?
13:19<millisa_>linode!
13:20<millisa_>Check out the getting started guide: https://www.linode.com/docs/getting-started
13:20<millisa_>They have most of the major distributions handy to do easy installs
13:20<millisa_>go with whichever you are most comfortable
13:20<SevenTwenty>Okay.
13:20<SevenTwenty>This is what I was looking for.
13:21<SevenTwenty>"Communicating with your Linode is usually done using the secure shell (SSH) protocol. SSH encrypts all of the data transferred between the SSH client application on your computer and the Linode, including passwords and other sensitive information. There are SSH clients available for every operating system."
13:21<SevenTwenty>Awesome. Thanks, millisa_.
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13:52<Virginia_Beach_>Hello?
13:52<millisa_>greetings
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13:53<Virginia_Beach_>virginiabeachna.org is not functioning
13:53<cheapie>"There are SSH clients available for every operating system."
13:53<cheapie>...is that a challenge?
13:54<Virginia_Beach_>Yes... you host the website and it is down
13:54<Virginia_Beach_>It says “error in database connection”
13:55<cheapie>That certainly sounds like an issue with the software you're running, not like a problem with the server itself.
13:55<millisa_>looks like a problem on the OS, no with linode.
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14:34<Federik>Hello
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14:34<Federik>I need help
14:34<smallclone>hi, feel free to ask your question
14:35<Federik>I would like to do a mining pool, which service do you recommend?
14:36<millisa_>none of them?
14:36<smallclone>like, bitcoin mining? none of them
14:36<smallclone>lol
14:37<Federik>no
14:37<Federik>monero
14:37<Federik>for setup a mining pool
14:37<smallclone>don't people typically use GPUs for that? i don't keep up with that stuff
14:38<Federik>for make a mining pool you make a node....(not mining....only host the "miners")
14:40<smallclone>yeah i don't know anything about that. but there's loads of communities online that could probably tell you what kind of specs you're looking for to start, then just line that up with the right plan.
14:44<Federik>thank you
14:44<Federik>best regards
14:44<smallclone>best regards indeed
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17:38<nyancat>Does anyone know if it's possible to replace the main ipv4 on a vps with a new IP?
17:38<MJCS>contact support and they should be able to
17:38<smallclone>nyancat: you have to open a ticket to request that
17:38<nyancat>I kind of figured as much, just wanted to see if it could be done
17:38<nyancat>:D
17:38<dwfreed>^ it usually requires a good reason for doing so
17:39<millisa_>spin up a new linode and use the swap ip?
17:39<dwfreed>that works too
17:39<millisa_>https://www.linode.com/docs/networking/remote-access#swapping-ip-addresses
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18:50<William>Hi. I got an e-mail saying I have been scheduled for a migration that will happen by December 17. Does this mean we are getting new hardware?
18:51<William>It says I can trigger the migration manually earlier, which I am about to do once I complete a backup.
18:53<retro|blah>What are you on right now out of curiosity?
18:54<William>You mean which location? Newark, NJ.
18:54<dwfreed>it's not necessarily new hardware
18:54<retro|blah>I meant more like what hardware since you asked
18:54<William>Oddly enough the button doesn't appear in the beta manager.
18:55<William>The CPU is Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2680 v3 @ 2.50GHz according to /proc/cpuinfo
18:56<dwfreed>you might get something newer
18:56<dwfreed>newest I've seen is 2697v4
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18:57<William>Where do I give feedback for the cloud.linode.com control panel?
18:58<dwfreed>there's a link there somewhere
18:58<dwfreed>i haven't looked at it in a while
18:59<dwfreed>i would check the old manager to make sure the migration shows up there first, though
18:59<William>It does appear on the old manager, and it is in progress now.
18:59<William>I do see 2 open issues on GitHub.
19:00<William>#1325 and #1326.
19:00<dwfreed>probably hasn't been added yet
19:04<William>Still on an e5-2680v3.
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19:58<hiderr>hello derr
19:59<millisa_>greetings
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20:00<hiderr>I am trying to get the disk check
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20:11<smallclone>hiderr: you mean like an fsck?
20:12<hiderr>hi, thanks
20:12<hiderr>no i was trying to check the size
20:12<hiderr>i was able to do dat
20:16<hiderr>I am in this section
20:16<hiderr>https://www.linode.com/docs/networking/using-the-linode-shell-lish/
20:16<hiderr>trying to use LISH. For some reason, after I type the name of the server or number
20:16<hiderr>it is still not connecting
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20:18<scotb32>hello
20:18<smallclone>hiderr: why are you using lish instead of ssh?
20:18<millisa_>scotb32: hi
20:19<smallclone>scotb32: feel free to ask your question
20:19<scotb32>Does linode offer managed hosting?
20:19<hiderr>it's running in rescue mode
20:19<hiderr>https://www.linode.com/docs/platform/disk-images/copying-a-disk-image-over-ssh
20:19<hiderr>step 2 in this section
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20:20<scotb32>I miss the old IRC chat
20:20<scotb32>So, does linodes offer manage hosting?
20:20<smallclone>hiderr: just opening it from the Remote Access tab of the Linode will probably be the easiest way for you: https://www.linode.com/docs/networking/using-the-linode-shell-lish/#use-a-web-browser
20:21<millisa_>For some definition of managed - https://www.linode.com/managed
20:21<smallclone>(the short answer is, no)
20:21<scotb32>So, I would have to setup the webserver and the cpanel?
20:22<smallclone>scotb32: in the case of managed they would install cpanel, but that's really just running a script to have it install itself
20:22<scotb32>i agree
20:22<smallclone>also, you're bound to the managed sevices purchase for your cpanel license, which at $100/month is a bit steep just for cpanel
20:22<smallclone>but yeah, in general you are configuring everythig yourself on a linode
20:22<scotb32>It has been a long time since I built a webserver
20:23<scotb32>on a active web
20:23<smallclone>i mean, if you are installing cpanel first, pretty much everything else is done through cpanel
20:23<smallclone>though without managed you would need to bring your own license
20:24<scotb32>ah ok.
20:25<smallclone>they also have a professional services team that does one-off projects, if you really don't feel like setting it up initially you could get a quote from them
20:25<scotb32>well guys thanks for answering my Q.
20:25<smallclone>sure
20:25<scotb32>managed start at 100.00 a month
20:25<smallclone>per linode on your account
20:25<smallclone>in addition to the cost of the linode itself
20:26<scotb32>but kind of costly, But I do understand it is alot of work.
20:26<hiderr>ty
20:26<scotb32>?help
20:27<hiderr>I'm trying to run the following command: https://www.linode.com/docs/platform/disk-images/copying-a-disk-image-over-ssh
20:27<scotb32>lol.
20:27<scotb32>thanks guys.
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20:27<smallclone>hiderr: that isn't a command that's the entire guide.
20:27<hiderr>but I am getting a weird error
20:27<hiderr>true part 1
20:28<smallclone>did you start ssh in rescue mode
20:28<hiderr>ssh root@... copy disk command
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20:28<hiderr>yes
20:28<smallclone>try testing that ssh is working by just connecting to it normally with the password you created
20:28<smallclone>also, it would help to see the error you're receiving
20:28<smallclone>!paste
20:28<linbot>Please paste longer snippets over at https://bpaste.net/ and not in the channel
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20:29<daniel>Hi there
20:29<hiderr>RSA host key for ... has changed
20:29<smallclone>daniel: hi, feel free to ask your question
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20:29<Guest284>I just bought a node, but it seems my IP was blocked
20:30<smallclone>hiderr: yeah you already have an ssh host key saved that is different than the one finnix is using
20:30<smallclone>what os are you running locally?
20:30<Guest284>centos7
20:30<smallclone>Guest284: blocked from what, exactly?
20:30<hiderr>mac os
20:30<Guest284>GFW
20:30<smallclone>Guest284: open a ticket
20:31<smallclone>provide an mtr report to show that it's blocked
20:31<hiderr>https://bpaste.net/show/5e7a1f62610c
20:31<smallclone>https://www.linode.com/docs/networking/diagnostics/diagnosing-network-issues-with-mtr
20:31<smallclone>hiderr: the easiest way to fix this is to remove the linde that contains the other key for that ip address
20:31<smallclone>one sec
20:33<smallclone>well actually
20:34<smallclone>just open ~/.ssh/known_hosts
20:34<smallclone>with the text editor of your choice, find the line that starts with your Linode's IP, and delete it
20:34<hiderr>ooh thanks berry
20:36<hiderr>I'm still getting the same error
20:37<hiderr>I just commented out everything for now. i.e hashtags
20:37<smallclone>did you delete the line, and then save and close the file?
20:37<hiderr>commented everything and then saved the file
20:38<smallclone>erm, i'm not sure that that file accepts comments
20:39<Guest284>I cant install mtr on my mac...
20:39<hiderr>kk
20:39<smallclone>Guest284: i dunno give them whatever you can i guess, a traceroute or something
20:40<Guest284>how about ping
20:40<smallclone>that is basically useless
20:40<smallclone>but i dunno maybe they will just swap it out for you anyway
20:41<Guest284> 1 192.168.0.1 (192.168.0.1) 3.998 ms 0.939 ms 1.105 ms 2 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1) 2.039 ms 1.420 ms 2.045 ms 3 114.252.0.1 (114.252.0.1) 36.321 ms 5.922 ms 5.944 ms 4 61.148.163.97 (61.148.163.97) 2.891 ms 3.588 ms 5.098 ms 5 bt-230-081.bta.net.cn (202.106.230.81) 7.929 ms 6.581 ms 6.722 ms 6 124.65.194.185 (124.65.194.185) 4.713 ms 124.65.194.161 (124.65.194.161) 9.664 ms 124.65.194.73 (124.65.194.73) 10.071 ms 7
20:41<Guest284>is this ok?
20:42<smallclone>you need to open a ticket
20:42<Guest284>wait a sec
20:42<smallclone>please don't paste things in this channel
20:43<hiderr>hmm it still didn't work
20:43<hiderr>mi man
20:43<smallclone>hiderr: did you delete the line, and save the file this time?
20:43<hiderr>yes
20:44<hiderr>i got it
20:44<hiderr>it was a different known_hosts in /var/root
20:44<Guest284>i opened a ticket
20:45<Guest284>then what should i do now?
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20:45<smallclone>Guest284: wait
20:45<smallclone>they will answer you as soon as they can
20:46<hiderr>Ty my good, best friend
20:46<hiderr>byeee
20:46<hiderr>lad
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20:46<Guest284>what if I cant use it , can I ask my money back?
20:47<smallclone>there's a 7 day trial period when you open an account
20:48<smallclone>but yeah sure you can ask for whatever you want, i do not know what they'll give you
20:48<Guest284>ok, thanks
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20:58<ttaylor>Any having problems accessing Linode via Lish?
20:59<ttaylor>s/Linode/Linodes/
21:00<millisa_>yep
21:00<millisa_>Getting a 'Connection to lish-dallas.linode.com closed.' right after putting in my pass
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21:01<ttaylor>Yeah, same with Fremont and Newark
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21:58<Ikaros>Works for me.
21:58<Ikaros>Then again I don't use passwords, I use key auth
22:02<retro|blah>I can SSH to lish via key auth (ssh my_linode_id@lish-<location>.linode.com without specifying a a linode label), but then if I try to attach to a Linode's console it kicks me back to the lish prompt
22:02<retro|blah>s/my_linode_id/<my_linode_username>/
22:03<ttaylor>The web lish console works, but not via ssh for me.
22:06<ttaylor>I guess I should have clarified. I can connect to the lish console via ssh but not connect to any of the Linodes.
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