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02:35<luna->yay new Icinga packages updates Fedora and CentOS :)
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04:24<sontv1003>I have a problem with access Linode Cpanel
04:24<sontv1003>I lost authenticator app on my phone
04:25<sontv1003>I was reinstall my phone
04:25<sontv1003>So now I cant access to Cpanel Linode
04:25<dwfreed>did you save the scratch code?
04:27<sontv1003>I am not sure with that thing
04:27<sontv1003>I was send email with ID picture and Visa card to your supporter
04:27<sontv1003>Title " I need to help from you [9368868]"
04:29<adamsz>Could someone give me advice to choose the correct hosting service? I would like to build a simple redirect system which redirect a user to another url based on setting stored in SQL tables, overall click amount is between 200k - 300k per day, some days its possible that 100-200 requests will be made in a signle second. I will store some statistical data in the db, and there will be some business calculations made time to time in the
04:30<sontv1003>OH. Now it is public chat
04:34<mattmcc>adamsz: Spin up a couple different node sizes and do some load testing.
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05:03<Woet>dcraig: im sure he wasn't expecting the large california flyingfish
05:03<ArchNoob>Hello, I'm using Arch Linux and about to configure a mail server. Just wondering is the information on Linode guide about configuring mail server (since 2015) uptodate?
05:03<Woet>ArchNoob: try it and see?
05:04<dcraig>lol like there have been any updates to mail servers amirite
05:06<Woet>all the guides should just have a notice saying "wtf are you doing? use google apps you fool"
05:08<dcraig>hey I have a joke
05:08<dcraig>how do you know someone uses arch?
05:08<ArchNoob>don't do that ..
05:09<dcraig>do what
05:11<Woet>dcraig: because they spend 1 hour a day installing updateS?
05:20<dcraig>good job :D
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07:02<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • LISH Web Console lost color and scrolling <>
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07:08<jpr>Trying to purchase 8GB server, but site is not accepting credit card and debit card and facing payment issue
07:09<jpr>Just received message from my client
07:09<jpr>This is first time, I am facing this issue, as always recommed your server
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08:17<dzho>time zones how do they work
08:20<@jhaas>I believe they run on despair
08:35<bhanks>as far as timezones go, i believe there are more than one.
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08:39<@bhanks>jhaas <3
08:39<@jhaas>\o/ (you should do "linbot unpoint jhaas" to thank me
08:44<@bhanks>im worried
08:44<@bhanks>linbot unpoint jhaas
08:44<linbot>bhanks: Point taken from jhaas! (-8)
08:44<@bhanks>oh lord.
08:44*jhaas is winning
08:45<@bhanks>linbot one million points bhanks
08:45<@bhanks>worth a try
08:45<@jhaas>linbot lick bhanks
08:45<linbot>jhaas: Point given to bhanks. (1)
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08:51<Kam>hello Li support
08:51<Kam>need help and some info on managed linodes
08:52<@jhaas>quick notes: $100/month/linode, covers incidence response not configuration/setup, free backups & cpanel license,
08:52<@jhaas>any specific questions?
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08:56<webnut>okay, I have a question about Linode
08:57<webnut>do you provide a /64 IPv6 Routed block?
08:57<webnut>because if you do not, I will just stick with my current provider
08:57<@jhaas>@webnut yep, you'd just need to open a ticket to get one assigned
08:57<webnut>jhaas: you provide?! Cool!
08:58<webnut>one more question, actually 2, do you allow VPN server (for myself) and IRC bouncer (also for myself)
08:58<grawity>why wouldn't they?
08:58<@jhaas>yes and yes
08:58<webnut>grawity: aws doesn't
08:59<webnut>and others like ramnode mark it under "questionable uses" :D
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09:03<Peng_>AWS doesn't?
09:03<webnut>grawity: yeah, right now I have Hurricane electric
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09:04<grawity>home -> two VPSes -> BGP -> three tunnel providers
09:05<grawity>you can't hack me I'm behind 7 proxies
09:06<webnut>jhaas: just so I get it straight, linode can offer me a /64 or a /48 like Hurricane Electric, which I can use with OpenVPN's server-ipv6, right?
09:08<Peng_>webnut: Linode will do a /64 or /56, but not a /48. Otherwise, yes.
09:08<@jackley>webnut: jhaas might be away from his keyboard, but I can answer that. a /48 isn't an option, but a /64 is.
09:08<@jackley>and yes -- what Peng_ said
09:10<webnut>right jackley
09:10<webnut>If only I could get my credits money from DO, grawity can that be done?
09:10<grawity>um, what can be done
09:10<grawity>cashing out DO credits?
09:11<grawity>probably not.
09:11<grawity>I mean, how would I know, having never used DO
09:11<webnut>grawity: I think I saw you in ##digitalocean on freenode :D
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09:13<webnut>jackley: does linode have any cupouns
09:15<@jackley>webnut: have you created an account yet?
09:16<webnut>no jackley
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09:16<@jackley>webnut: OK. Use LINODE10 on signup for a credit.
09:17<webnut>got anything more? like 20$?
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09:23<webnut>ok, signed up
09:24<webnut>jackley: is developertea2017 valid?
09:25<@jackley>webnut: yes
09:25<webnut>good, perfect!
09:25<webnut>I'm practically getting my left-over credits back this way
09:26<webnut>jackley: your account is currently reviewed? what's this?
09:27<webnut>will I be asked to provide ID?
09:27<@jackley>webnut: possibly. Can you PM me your linode username?
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09:59<iodev>last nick change, this is my real nick :-)
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10:03<chillerfx>hello there
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10:04<iodev>hi chillerfx
10:05<chillerfx>could someone please help me out on an issue? My server is being used to send spam emails by some unknown person. How to resolve this issue? I checked the logs and saw that an old expired domain which was still on my DNS list was being used to send out spam. Now I have removed all those expired domains from my server. One of my main website went unreachable and renders HTTP 500 error
10:05<chillerfx>Hi @iodev
10:06<iodev>you probably were hacked
10:07<Peng_>Could be just an email account was, or it's an open relay
10:08<chillerfx>all other websites are working fine and just one website is rendering HTTP 500 ERROR all of a sudden. Yes, @Peng, could you please provide some tips to resolve this
10:08<chillerfx>My ip address got listed in RBL and SPAMHAUS
10:09<iodev>ok, I think my server is set up now :D
10:11<chillerfx>researched on many forums and still unable to find a clear procedure for this
10:13<ponas>chillerfx: you'll need to figure out how (and if) whatever is sending emails is authenticating to your mail server
10:14<ponas>uh nevermind, you probably fixed that part huh
10:19<chillerfx>any idea why would just one website go down while other websites are up and running on the same server?
10:20<grawity>have you checked the webserver's/webapp's system logs yet?
10:20<ponas>you might have corrupted some webserver configuration while removing the old websites
10:21<chillerfx>@ponas this happened right before I removed the old websites
10:22<chillerfx>at first the error was "Resource ID #36" , then I tried rebooting the server and then the error HTTP 500 came up
10:22<ponas>grawity had a pretty good suggestion
10:22<ponas>all we can do is guess
10:22<chillerfx>it's like 2 hours now and the error still persists, tried clearing cache and tried on a new browser as well, still the same
10:22<ponas>the logs will tell you why, we can't
10:23<chillerfx>yeah, let me check the logs
10:24<chillerfx>is there any specific log file that I should check?
10:26<grawity>yes, the one where your webserver software writes errors
10:26<grawity>e.g. /var/log/apache2/error.log or /var/log/nginx/error.log
10:26<grawity>most of the time, anyway
10:29<chillerfx>this seems to be coming up postdrop: warning: uid=33: No space left on device sendmail: fatal: www-data(33): queue file write error postdrop: warning: uid=33: No space left on device
10:29<chillerfx>on the apache2 log
10:29<chillerfx>when I got to check the syslog
10:29<chillerfx>here's a huge queue of emails waiting to be sent
10:30<grawity>so... you're out of disk space?
10:30<chillerfx>Dec 8 06:40:47 polotrendz postfix/qmgr[5760]: 175E76D3B: from=<>, size=604, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Dec 8 06:40:47 polotrendz postfix/qmgr[5760]: 139C57065: from=<>, size=631, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Dec 8 06:40:47 polotrendz postfix/qmgr[5760]: 1BFEBB3F9: from=<>, size=638, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Dec 8 06:40:47 polotrendz postfix/qmgr[5760]: 1BD8E92C9: from=<>, siz
10:30<grawity>do you see any signs of postfix trying (and failing) to deliver those messages?
10:30<chillerfx>yeah but am sure my websites don't take that much diskspace, I am sure something's going wrong in my server that's eating up all the disk space and sending out spam emails
10:31<grawity>or is it just really a metric ton of them being generated
10:32<grawity>also take a look at your website's access.log
10:32<chillerfx>Dec 8 06:40:28 polotrendz kernel: iptables_INPUT_denied: IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=f2:3c:91:61:39:4f:00:26:51:c4:00:41:08:00 SRC= DST=myserverip LEN=40 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=53 ID=51643 PROTO=TCP SPT=14102 DPT=23 WINDOW=52945 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0 Dec 8 06:40:47 polotrendz postfix/scache[6926]: statistics: start interval Dec 8 06:30:47 Dec 8 06:40:47 polotrendz postfix/scache[6926]: statistics: domain lookup hits=0 miss=31 success=0% Dec 8 06:4
10:32<grawity>if somebody is managing to abuse the site to send a lot of spam messages, I'd expect most of them to correspond to some weird-looking HTTP request
10:32<chillerfx>this is the first few lines of the syslog
10:33<chillerfx>then comes the long queue that I mentioned above
10:33<chillerfx>yeah sure
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10:36<chillerfx>the access log has only old entries like from 2016
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14:38<@rsyracuse>Guest679: Hey there! Is there anything you might need help with?
14:42<Guest679>Hi, No, Thanks for asking :) Just checking out things. planning to move from digital ocean to linode
14:44<@bhanks>oh linode? i hear they're good.
14:48<Guest679>Yes, I feel the same.
14:48<Guest679>and the plans and reviews are better here
14:49<Guest679>BTW what is this chat group for?
14:49<@mcintosh>it is for the Linode community
14:52<Guest679>i see
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15:06<react>mcintosh, bhanks, rsyracuse, whoever isn't busy, can you PM, offtopic question, thx
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16:48<nicon>i have a pretty old image running 12.04 ubuntu - any issues upgrading to 14.04 or should i start with a new image and migrate wordpress over?
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16:48<millisa>if you started with a new image and migrated, you could skip 14.04...
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16:49<nicon>right - and my php soap issue is my thinking .. have never done a migration to a new node with linode yet -- guess its worth a try
16:50<millisa>could also clone your 12.04 linode and then try out the upgrade path without messing with production
16:50<millisa>(18.04 lts is supposed to be out in 4-5 months, too)
16:51<millisa> <--cloning info
16:52<nicon>i like that - i will take a look at that - thanks
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16:54<nicon>thats going to require a ticket however i think - going to have to address the fact it does not show any running on my account now .. will get the ball rolling and try that
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16:58<Peng_>millisa: Some folks like to avoid new LTS releases until they have a few (or six) more months to bake, though.
16:58<millisa>someone running 12.04 at this point might be that kinda folk, too
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17:04<Peng_>Waiting 3.5 years for 14.04?
17:05<millisa>and 1.5 for 1604
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17:23<AlexMax>i'm still running debian wheezy
17:23<react>you monster
17:23<AlexMax>i think i'm going to 'upgrade' to centos 7
17:23<AlexMax>so i can leave my servers running for 20 years
17:24<Peng_>Not Debian Woody?
17:24<AlexMax>debian woody doesn't have aptitude
17:24<AlexMax>so no
17:26<react>my rhel 3 box is still going strong
17:26<millisa>i shutdown my centos4 system that had 10+ year uptime a few months back.
17:27<AlexMax>is a 10 year uptime a good thing
17:27<millisa>not usually
17:27<AlexMax>or does that just mean you never installed security patches :P
17:27<millisa>yes to both!
17:27<Peng_>Not as good as 20
17:28<millisa>it was my last reiserfs box too :(
17:29<AlexMax>killer performance
17:29<@mcintosh>!point AlexMax
17:29<linbot>mcintosh: Point given to alexmax. (1)
17:29<AlexMax>not many opportunities to use those jokes anymore
17:29<AlexMax>gotta make them count
17:30<millisa>he's eligible to go before the parole board in a couple years.
17:31<AlexMax>considering that he's shown zero remorse, i doubt he'll ever get it
17:32<millisa>not if he keeps suing the judges and attorneys involved.
17:32<AlexMax>a decade on
17:32<AlexMax>is reiser4 even that good
17:32<AlexMax>compared to patched-up-XFS
17:32<millisa>it performed pretty good for huge maildirs
17:32<millisa>lots of little files
17:33<AlexMax>so does XFS iirc
17:33<AlexMax>XFS also never runs out of inodes
17:33<AlexMax>i actually ran out of inodes on a box
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22:59<Eugene>Every night I'm inodin'
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23:21<raijin>wth happened
23:21<raijin>has linode imploded?
23:22<Woet>very helpful question indeed
23:24<raijin>helpful to whom?
23:24<nCelti>Anyone heard anything interesting about bcachefs?
23:25<nCelti>It's supposed to be "btrfs, but won't eat your data"
23:25*nCelti blinks.
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23:25<raijin>yes, kernel 4.14.1 ate a bunch of data in bcache installs
23:25<raijin>seriously tho, is linode having some issues ?
23:26<millisa>haven't gotten any alerts for any of mine. what are you seeing?
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23:26<Woet>still not asking a helpful question
23:26<raijin>try going to
23:26<Woet>works perfectly fine
23:27<raijin>not here
23:27<Woet>let me know when you'll be capable of asking something useful
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23:28<Woet>instead of "wth happened, has linode imploded?" try "hey guys, im trying to visit but im getting ERR_NAME_NOT_RESOLVED"
23:28<raijin>I'm not interested in your help tbh
23:29<Woet>else you'd ask useful questions
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23:30<Celti>A bit more politely: We're not seeing any issues, with or otherwise. Could you please give us a bit more detail?
23:30<raijin>Oh sure!
23:31<raijin>I'm getting ERR_CONNECTION_RESET whenever I try to connect, either with the browser or ssh
23:31<raijin>ssh_exchange_identification: read: Connection reset by peer
23:32<Woet>you'd figure someone who buys an unmanaged Linux VPS would not need so much encouragement to ask a decent question
23:33<zifnab>question: i have a box that has some secure things on it
23:33<zifnab>i would like to neuter lish for it
23:33<zifnab>what's the easiest way to do that?
23:33<Woet>1) open browser 2) go to lish 3) ??? 4) profit!
23:33<Celti>raijin: If you try `ssh -4` to force IPv4, does it work? I recall having MTU issues before with Linode and ipv6.
23:33<zifnab>read: i do not want lish or glish to be operational on this machine
23:34<Woet>1) open browser 2) don't go to lish 3) ??? 4) profit!
23:34<zifnab>thanks :P
23:34<Celti>zifnab: Disable the gettys on said machine.
23:34<raijin>Celti: I'll try it
23:34<Woet> works fine over v6 too
23:34<Celti>Lish will still connect, but it won't be able to *do* anything.
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23:35<zifnab>Celti: that's a sane approach. i'm assuming a person trying to use lish would get a black screen without a login prompt in that case?
23:35<Celti>zifnab: Yep.
23:35<Celti>Woet: Right... MTU issues being a "pathway" thing, not an issue on Linode's end at all. I'm well aware IPv6 works fine with them.
23:36<zifnab>also, ffs, one of my boxes is on the 3rd migration this month :(
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23:45<Eugene>zifnab - we're on the same cursed host
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23:45<zifnab>Eugene: you're a systemd wizard: hwo the fuck do i stop getty
23:45<zifnab>linode overwrites /etc/init/tty* on boot
23:45<Eugene>You don't. Wtf are you doing
23:45<Woet>Eugene is only a wizard in towels and crikcets
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23:46<Woet>zifnab: why dont you just use filesystem encryption
23:47<Eugene>zifnab - correct answer for your concern is: you need to boot your distro's kernel with it disabled.
23:47<zifnab>Woet: i do.
23:47<Woet>zifnab: so whats the issue again
23:48<zifnab>this host accepts ssh from a single host. lish is another form of access to said box, i'd like it dead
23:49<zifnab>meh, i'm happy, moving on, thanks again
23:49<Woet>no worries
23:49<Woet>here to help
23:50<zifnab>its a stupid thing, it has an encrypted partition, but i don't care enough to encrypt root
23:50<zifnab>there's the occasional lish exploit that happens, i figured just killing it / not allowing it access to the box was the easier/more paranoid route to go
23:50<dwfreed>disable distro helper to prevent the overwrite
23:51<Woet>or just dont put your 100 BTC wallet on Linode
23:53<Celti>I bought $5 in BTC this time last year and forgot about it until today, when I discovered it's now ~$90.
23:53<Celti>Kinda wishing I'd bought more than $5 when it was both that cheap and I actually had money. :-p
23:53<zifnab>i had 10 btc at one point
23:53<zifnab>we used 7 for things, 3 i sold for $841 each...
23:53<Celti>You poor bastard. :)
23:53<zifnab>i feel like an idiot now
23:53<Eugene>I had ~100 :-/
23:53<zifnab>i have 0.261
23:53<zifnab>Eugene: hannah's laptop
23:53<Eugene>I have a disk .img but I haven't pawed through it. Not worth my trouble yet.
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23:55<zifnab>if you have 100, that's currently 130k
23:55<zifnab>jesus, go find that
23:55<zifnab>if 130k isn't worth your time you're insane
23:55<zifnab>give it to me, i'll do it, i want 22k out of it though
23:55<Eugene>That drive was lost years ago.
23:55<Eugene>I tried hard back when it hit $35 the first time, but nada
23:56<Celti>Uh, 100 BTC is currently like $1.5M
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