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#linode IRC Logs for 2017-12-15

---Logopened Fri Dec 15 00:00:06 2017
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00:25<stejin>ivide aarum ille?
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00:36<Eugene>Every day I''m Linodin'
00:39<Woet>Eugene: stop using excessive apostrophes
00:40<Eugene>Who's ration' 'em?
00:45<Woet>Eugene: stop
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00:51<FluffyFoxeh>https://68.media.tumblr.com/e0db0e55c81c0dabc437bf721fd72824/tumblr_ozeu6v6lUi1qep3h6o1_1280.jpg
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01:22<millisa>RIP AIM
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01:53<Zimsky>Eugene: don't do that
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02:09<tacocat>'''''''''''
02:09<tacocat>>_>
02:23<Zimsky>you'dn't've done that if you'd've known better
02:25<tacocat>w'not? i'th'k thi's 'good way t' cons'rv' bytes
02:26<Zimsky>sure
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02:30<FluffyFoxeh>whyn't
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05:07<lee>hello
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05:07<lee>its lee DPMC USA LLC Lee Furneaux 825 Brickell Bay Drive Miami, FL 33131 Email lee.m.furneaux@gmail.com
05:07<lee>is anyone there
05:08<dwfreed>!official
05:08<linbot>If you need to contact somebody at Linode in an official capacity you should open a support ticket or email service@linode.com. Unofficial help & information is provided here on a best-effort basis
05:09<lee>9422325 i have it has been going for days they said it was up again i checked today to do my invoices and it isnt working
05:09<lee>i hounestly need to get paid asap
05:09<lee>he said he resized the disk and got it open.
05:10<lee>please can you help me
05:10<lee>as it seems the questions are taking so long to be fixed it is nightime in UK when this happens and i need to speak to client this afternoon of payment of over 70,000 $
05:10<lee>please
05:11<dwfreed>this isn't an official support channel; if you've updated a ticket, then Linode will reply there as soon as possible; if it is urgent, then your best bet is to call
05:33<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Email hosting alternatives <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14763&p=75354#p75354>
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05:53<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Email hosting alternatives <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14763&p=75355#p75355>
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06:23<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Payday Loans Bc <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15578&p=75356#p75356>
06:33<linbot>New news from forum: Email/SMTP Related Forum • Error sending emails with an external email server <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15567&p=75357#p75357>
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10:51<iedbarcelona>hi guys
10:51<iedbarcelona>Somebody to some questions about service?
10:52<Woet>!ask
10:52<linbot>If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read http://alexfornuto.com/how-to-ask-for-help-on-irc/
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10:52<iedbarcelona>HI!
10:52<iedbarcelona>My project is bigger
10:52<iedbarcelona>12 Gb
10:52<iedbarcelona>to migrate
10:53<iedbarcelona>Linode has service to migrate?
10:53<iedbarcelona>price? included in the plan?
11:05<smallclone>migrating stuff to your linode is just a matter of using scp /sftp / whatever you want
11:05<smallclone>the prices are the monthly cost of each plan. if you use it for less than a month, you pay at an hourly rate
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11:24<joe_>hi
11:24<smallclone>hi, feel free to ask your question
11:25<joe_>i want ask you about servers mails
11:25<smallclone>you'll need to narrow that down a bit
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11:25<smallclone>running a mail server? what specific software, etc?
11:26<joe_>i have company to send bulk mail legal
11:26<joe_>any plan for that ?
11:27<smallclone>a Linode is a linux virtual machine, you can run whatever you want on it
11:27<smallclone>there isn't a specific plan for running a mail server
11:27<smallclone>i'd go by whatever requirements the software has, honestly the smallest plan might be fine
11:28<smallclone>keep in mind you need to be compliant with CAN-SPAM, all recipients must opt in, have unsubscribe links, etc etc
11:29<joe_>Linode 1GB - 5$
11:29<joe_>for that option
11:29<joe_>Is this capable of bluk mails?
11:30<smallclone>i'm sure it will fire off bulk mails without issue for as long as you manage to go without an abuse complaint
11:32<smallclone>which i anticipate will be like, 2 hours
11:45<joe_>option port25 SMTP active automaticly or we needs contact support for that ?
11:46<smallclone>Linode does not block ports
11:48<pepsi_>^
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11:49<wblew>-_-
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11:57<FluffyFoxeh>pepsi? :p
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11:57<@jalter>all i wanted was a pepsi_, just one pepsi_
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12:59<dzho>jalter: I'm not crazy, you're the one that's crazy
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13:09<sadat>Hello
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15:01<zifnab>you're a towel
15:07<ericoc>i'd much rather be a bathrobe
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15:09<zifnab>you know
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15:10<zifnab>both of them get too near to places i'd rather avoid
15:10<millisa>chicago and mongolia?
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15:12<Zimsky>probably more likely to get killed in chicago
15:13<scotti>mongolia is really safe these days
15:13<millisa>lots of anti towel sentiment there.
15:13<scotti>I think they avoided civil war the breakup of the Soviet Union
15:13<scotti>* following
15:13<scotti>tajikistan not so lucky
15:14<Zimsky>go back to your cave
15:15<scotti>I think we should commend countries that have peaceful revolutions
15:15<scotti>Mongolia was a Soviet satellite state
15:15<scotti>its People were oppressed by communism
15:15<scotti>but they moved forward, peacefully
15:15<Zimsky>authoritarianism actually
15:16<scotti>no, communism
15:16<scotti>Poland, Belarus and Hungary are authoritarian
15:16<scotti>Are the people of those States oppressed ?
15:16<scotti>under communism, yes
15:19<Zimsky>authoritarianism actually
15:19<Cromulent>I doubt marx would have called the USSR communist
15:19<Zimsky>^
15:20<Zimsky>it's like nazi germany saying "dw we're socialist"
15:21<Zimsky>maybe fragmentally true, but a better complete description is fascist
15:22<@mcintosh>this is very off-topic
15:22<Zimsky>yeah scotti
15:22<millisa>we're getting to the question about the mongolian linode data center
15:22<Cromulent>at least land is cheap for it :D
15:26<Zimsky>start up a datacenter in bir tawil
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16:30<joe_>hi
16:30<smallclone>hello
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16:41<dwfreed>few hours at most, usually
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18:59<[Eli]>Hello everyone, I have a question how much extra per month is the "Managed Addon"?
19:00<Guest487>[Eli]: That would cost an additional $100/month per Linode on your account
19:02<[Eli]>Alright, thanks.
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19:03<[Eli]>That's a crazy price though.
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19:04<Zimsky>cheaper than paying two people full time
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21:24<armiller>Can I get one needful?
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21:27<dzho>!to armiller ask
21:27<linbot>armiller: If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read http://alexfornuto.com/how-to-ask-for-help-on-irc/
21:27<dwfreed>dzho: armiller is just trolling
21:28<armiller>:)
21:28<dwfreed>"do the needful" is a longstanding inside joke at Linode
21:29<dwfreed>(tech industry in general, really)
21:29<@bhanks>linbot 1 needful to armiller please!
21:30<rsdehart>well, it's still said unironically every day :(
21:31<dzho>yeah, I'm all for taking stuff at face value at first if it doesn't seem too big of a production to do so
21:31<dzho>well trolled, armiller
21:32*dzho is aware of the "do the needful" usage, thought this might have been a legit variant
21:32<@bhanks>dzho I do not blame you.
21:32<dzho>:-)
21:32<dzho>English's adaptability is one of its most charming features.
21:32<dzho>which is important, since it has so much to make up for.
21:33<rsdehart>well, I assumed it was in jest. My point was that in spite of the entire phrase being on big running joke, it doesn't stop it from being used in serious conversation
21:33<rsdehart>*one big
21:33<@mcintosh>!boo armiller
21:33<linbot>mcintosh: Point taken from armiller! (-1)
21:33<armiller>D:
21:33<@mcintosh>:D
21:33<@bhanks>mcintosh nooooo
21:33<dzho>it's only a running joke, of course, by people getting up in airs about their own dialect of English
21:34<dzho>you'd think Americans invented the language, but there are a whole lot of other people around the world who came by the language as honestly and as fully as we did
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21:56<Zimsky>why would anyone think americans invented the english language?
21:58<retro|blah>You mean they didn't?
21:58<retro|blah>:::mind blown::: :P
21:58<Zimsky>shame that so many are without access to proper education
21:59<retro|blah>What is this education you speak of.
21:59<Zimsky>okay
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22:58<lalit>hi
23:00<@bhanks>hi lalit
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23:01<lalit>hi i want to buy alinod server
23:01<lalit>vps
23:01<lalit>can you tell me that are you provide cpanel whm also
23:01<lalit>?
23:01<@bhanks>awesome. you can check out our available plans here: https://www.linode.com/pricing
23:01<lalit>i did not found there
23:02<@bhanks>so we're an unmanaged hosting provider so we dont actually install cpanel for you, but you can use cpanel with our servers
23:03<lalit>ok
23:03<lalit>on vps installtion help will provide or not?
23:04<@bhanks>yes and no. there are some things we can offer you pointers on but our support department is not a replacement for a Systems Administrator
23:05<lalit>actually i will install a webhosting panel on my server i will face some problem to setup nameserver on my vps
23:05<lalit>can your team help regarding this?
23:06<@bhanks>no, unfortunately this isn't something our support department can help you with.
23:06<lalit>ok
23:06<@bhanks>you would need to hire a Systems Administrator to handle that.
23:06<lalit>is it paid support?
23:07<@bhanks>nope! our support is free to Linode customers :)
23:07<lalit>waht type of help you will provide if i buy server from linod
23:07<lalit>?
23:09<@bhanks>we can help you with networking trouble, some basic linux questions, any questions about the hardware your server is on or questions about your account/billing.
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23:10<lalit>ok
23:10<lalit>thanks
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23:10<Zimsky>bhanks*
23:11<@bhanks>i've rolled by eyes deeply Zimsky
23:11<@bhanks>*my
23:11<@bhanks>my. by. same thing.
23:11<Zimsky>how does one roll one's eyes deeply?
23:11<Zimsky>as someone in the medical field, this is most alarming
23:11<@bhanks>it takes some effort.
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23:12<SleePy>I thought you guys offered managed services
23:13<@bhanks>we do! but managed won't cover setting up something like a nameserver
23:14<@bhanks>our Managed Services are basically monitoring services that offer incident response to mitigate downtime
23:14<Woet>you can mitigate my downtime every night baby
23:15<@bhanks>Woet .............
23:15<SleePy>Looks like you do pro services as well!
23:15<Zimsky>as someone in the medical field, this is most alarming
23:15<Woet>Zimsky: the only medical field you're in is buying medical weed
23:15<Woet>you stoner
23:17<react>i'd be impressed if you guys could do one-off bind for customers, it's a rare skill these days amongst support teams (and for good reason)
23:17<Zimsky>Woet: maybe at some point
23:18<Woet>react: isn't it 2017? why would anyone use bind?
23:18<Zimsky>neurodegenerative diseases.
23:19<@mcintosh>!point mcintosh
23:19<linbot>mcintosh: 1,000,000 points for mcintosh!!!
23:19<@bhanks>>.<
23:19<Woet>!point mcintosh
23:19<linbot>Woet: Point given to mcintosh. (18)
23:19<Woet>!unpoint bhanks
23:19<linbot>Woet: Point taken from bhanks! (1)
23:19<Zimsky>!unpoint Woet
23:19<linbot>Zimsky: Point taken from woet! (3)
23:19<Woet>bitch please
23:19<Zimsky>pitch blease
23:19<@bhanks>gr8
23:19<Zimsky>m8
23:20<Woet>b8
23:20<Zimsky>w8
23:20<SleePy>!unpoint SleePy
23:20<linbot>SleePy: Point taken from sleepy! (-1)
23:20<Woet>wow
23:20<SleePy>Wonder how long it would take me to find a underflow
23:20<Zimsky>h8 the l8 pl8 d8
23:20<react>that's my point, no one rolls their own name services, and they shouldn't, the opportunity for shooting oneself in the foot is too great
23:21<Zimsky>react: what are you talking about?
23:21<Zimsky>use pdns
23:21<Zimsky>pretty sure Woet's point was bind is outdated
23:21<react>bhanks's example (scroll above)
23:21<Woet>exactly
23:21<Woet>powerdns for LIFE
23:21<@mcintosh>SleePy: it's just a SQLite INT so... whenever you'd hit it with that
23:21<@mcintosh>:p
23:22<Zimsky>a crow could set up pdns
23:22<Woet>crows are pretty smart
23:22<Woet>i know some people here that'd be outsmarted by a crow
23:23<react>Zimsky: bhanks was saying there are limits to what their support is willing to do, I'm agreeing it's good that they have limits, and the furthermore bind implementations are so old-school, I'd be stunned if those skills were in great supply for a late night support team
23:23<Woet>not naming anyone but their name rhymes with monica lewinsky
23:23<Zimsky>probably possible
23:23<Zimsky>react: bind itself isn't particularly difficult to configure either
23:24<Zimsky>there's so many guides
23:26<react>i'm not saying it's easy or hard, merely that restrictions are good; gotta draw the "unsupported" line somewhere in the sand ^_^
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23:27<Peng_>I think Linode uses BIND :D
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23:30<nate>I really wish cloudflare had a breakdown of what IP's point to what locations
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23:31<Peng_>In what way?
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23:33<Woet>Peng_: a breakdowny way
23:33<nate>Peng: got someone bitching at me one of our company sites are down because cloudflare is saying it is, I wanted to try and figure out what cloudflare location they're being routed through as cloudflare status page shows a few areas with routing problems
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23:34<nate>tried explaining to them the process of routing (and the fact cloudflare has locations all over the place), and the fact I'm literally shelled into the box monitoring it, but lol
23:34<Woet>nate: but it shows you which region on the error page
23:34<nate>Ah do they? Let me see if they can copy me that info
23:34<Peng_>And in an HTTP header, I think.
23:34<Peng_>And if you go to /cdn-cgi/trace
23:34<nate>Hm, is there a way to test specific cloudflare locations for a domain?
23:35<Woet>nate: https://s.woet.me/vwb2cGCDjS.png
23:35<Peng_>Not that i know of
23:35<Woet>"Los Angeles"
23:35<Peng_>https://www.cloudflare.com/cdn-cgi/trace
23:36<Peng_>You can get the time at millisecond resolution too eh
23:36<Woet>EH
23:36<Woet>WHATS THAT A BOOT
23:37<Zimsky>doesn't CF anycast that anyway
23:37<Zimsky>¿
23:37<Peng_>Yeah
23:39<react>why not contact cloudflare support?
23:39<Woet>nice joke
23:39*Zimsky sniggers
23:40<Zimsky>"There is no hardware or software. Cloudflare works at the DNS level. It takes only 5 minutes to sign up. "
23:40<Zimsky>clodflare uses literal clouds
23:40<Zimsky>DNS runs best on water vapour
23:40<Peng_>Their support time isn't unusually slow.
23:41<Peng_>Compared to most tech companies
23:43<react>merely 200/month gets you a business support with an SLA
23:43<Zimsky>there's a submarine cable connecting southeast asia to western europe via the middle east
23:43<Zimsky>it's called SEAMEWE
23:43<Zimsky>this is amusing
23:46<retro|blah>seaweed?
23:50<Zimsky>no, meweed
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23:51<react>I can't think of a name for my vpc, what am I to do
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23:51<Woet>call it "zimskysucks"
23:51<Woet>its my go to
23:51<react>that seems awfully personal
23:51<react>i like it.
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23:53<we>hi
23:53<react>hi
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23:53<Zimsky>weweed and was embarrassed
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