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01:05<zifnab>today's interesting find: datacenter names in the new cloud UI no longer include a location, they're things like "us-east-1a"
01:05<zifnab>i dislike this change, as 'dallas' means a lot more to me than 'us-central-1a'
01:06<grawity>been like that for at least a month or two
01:06<zifnab>there also needs to be a feedback button
01:06<grawity>I suppose it sounds more cloudy that way
01:06<zifnab>the menu system is dumb as well
01:06<zifnab>the linodes tab has 'stackscripts', 'images', and 'volumes'
01:06<Peng_>Now they can secretly move it to St Louis
01:06<zifnab>"How do I get back to my linodes"
01:07<zifnab>obviously click the tab header
01:07<@jhaas>zifnab: please do feedback@linode.com
01:07<zifnab>oO that exists, TIL
01:08<@jhaas>srsly though, can haz feedback!
01:08<zifnab>i was about to figure out if i had a forum account and reply to the beta thread
01:08*jhaas tries to figure out if he has a forum account
01:09<zifnab>i'm sure i do from decades gone by
01:09<zifnab>no idea wtf the login would be
01:20<Woet>jhaas: you didn't disclose that it's just an alias for devnull
01:21<@jhaas>That is definitely a thing I didn't say.
01:21<Woet>you should have, now zifnab thinks people care about their feedback
01:23<zifnab>lol
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01:26<zifnab>man, i was going to mention airport codes
01:26<Zimsky>Woet: just because everyone ignores you, doesn't mean everyone else is also ignored
01:26<zifnab>but, hey, you picked horrid locations with shitty codes
01:26<Zimsky>zifnab: fuck iata
01:26<zifnab>newark? EWC
01:26<zifnab>dallas? DFW. fremont? SJC
01:26<Zimsky>ICAO codes or nothing
01:27<zifnab>icao just adds the k
01:27<zifnab>!wx ksea
01:27<linbot>zifnab: [metar] OBS at KSEA: 33.8F/01C, visibility 10 miles, wind 6.90 mph, chill 27.73F (altimeter: 30.25) [KSEA 270553Z 12006KT 10SM OVC090 01/M04 A3025 RMK AO2 SLP253 4/001 T00111039]
01:27<zifnab>!wx kewc
01:27<Zimsky>!wx EDDT
01:27<linbot>zifnab: [metar] KEWC: not data available, valid code?
01:27<linbot>Zimsky: [metar] OBS at EDDT: 33.8F/01C, visibility 9999 miles, wind 8.06 mph, chill 27.01F (altimeter: 29.382333085) [EDDT 270620Z 15007KT CAVOK 01/M01 Q0995 NOSIG]
01:27<Ikaros>!wx kdfw
01:27<linbot>Ikaros: [metar] OBS at KDFW: 41.0F/05C, visibility 10 miles, wind 11.51 mph, chill 34.28F (altimeter: 30.42) [KDFW 270553Z 02010KT 10SM OVC034 05/M03 A3042 RMK AO2 SLP302 T00501033 10050]
01:28<Ikaros>There's my highlight of the day. Back to Hacknet for me.
01:28<Zimsky>zifnab: maybe for a lot of american places
01:36<zifnab>i added "stackscripts < cloud-init" to my email, again
01:37<zifnab>just to reiterate, again, i think they're pants-on-head stupid
01:37<Zimsky>so that's where your pants go
01:37<zifnab>have you not ever seen zero punctuation
01:38<zifnab>you're from that section fo the world, i thought you would have
01:38<Zimsky>¿
01:38<zifnab>video game reviewer, has been around for, well, a long time
01:38<zifnab>he's talking about halo 3, calls the npc's "pants on head retarded"
01:39<Zimsky>I don't play video games
01:39<zifnab>https://orig00.deviantart.net/0970/f/2010/061/2/2/zp___pants_on_head_by_sasukexiii.jpg
01:40<Zimsky>aglurementive
01:44<zifnab>Defenestrate
01:46<@jhaas>http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/iw/20041015b&page=6
01:46<dwfreed>zifnab: when will cloud-init have documentation that isn't just "cloud, cloud, cloud cloud, cloud" ?
01:46<dwfreed>zifnab: and newark is ewr, not ewc
01:46<dwfreed>!wx kewr
01:46<linbot>dwfreed: [metar] OBS at KEWR: 21.2F/-06C, visibility 10 miles, wind 10.36 mph, chill 10.12F (altimeter: 30.47) [KEWR 270551Z 32009KT 10SM SCT150 SCT250 M06/M16 A3047 RMK AO2 SLP318 T10561156]
01:47<dwfreed>!wx kamn
01:47<linbot>dwfreed: [metar] OBS at KAMN: -5.8F/-21C, visibility 10 miles, wind 0.00 mph, chill N/A (altimeter: 30.53) [KAMN 270638Z AUTO 00000KT 10SM CLR M21/M23 A3053 RMK AO2 T12141233]
01:54<zifnab>dwfreed: it works. It's the standard everyone's agreed on.
01:54<zifnab>And by everyone I mean "all of linodes competition"
02:00<dwfreed>zifnab: there's no documentation on *how* it works, is my point
02:01<dwfreed>as I said, it's all "cloud" bullshit
02:03<Zimsky>FM271000 09088KT 9999 -TSGR VA SCT005TCU
02:04<Zimsky>that'd be a fun one
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02:14<redm0squit0>does anyone know how to stop charges from reoccuring?
02:15<redm0squit0>I am totally new to this and was testing, when i look and it has charged me over $400 in only 12 days!
02:15<Zimsky>stop using the service?
02:15<redm0squit0>Linodes are stopped
02:15<redm0squit0>have been
02:16<redm0squit0> i never leave them running
02:16<Zimsky>you'll still be charged for them if they exist
02:16<Cromulent>you need to delete them
02:16<Zimsky>it doesn't matter whether they're started or stopped
02:16<redm0squit0>that much??
02:16<redm0squit0>i might as well bough my own server
02:16<@jhaas>Is it possible you activated Managed by accident?
02:16<Zimsky>depends on the size of the linode
02:17<redm0squit0>yes very possible, i am an idiot for doing this...didn't know what i was getting into
02:18<redm0squit0>worst part is i was only trying to learn and never even successfully ran any vm's
02:18<redm0squit0>i barely used it.....preloaded with $20 thought that was like my credits
02:19<redm0squit0>got charged $50.40 every other day for the past 12 days ouch
02:19<@jhaas>redm0squit0: if you activated Managed by accident just open a ticket and in most cases we'll be happy to refund
02:19<Cromulent>how many linodes did you start and not destroy?
02:20<@jhaas>Or open one anyway and we'll look through your invoices and figure out what happened.
02:20<redm0squit0>i just had one, but i literally just removed them
02:21<redm0squit0>well it appears i have one]
02:21<redm0squit0>i only had one
02:22<redm0squit0>thank you @jhaas
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02:32<redm0squit0>one more quick question, should i cancel the account or wait for the ticket to be reviewed first? If i cancel, i wont even be able to log on.
02:33<redm0squit0>just removed the linode, hopefully that will make it stop
02:43<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • VPN Routing and Gaming Issues <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15606&p=75426#p75426>
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02:53<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Oil quenched steel wire Made in China <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15610&p=75429#p75429> || General Discussion • flap disc for stainless steel manufacturers <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15609&p=75428#p75428> || General Discussion • solar energy PCBA supplier <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15608&p=75427#p75427>
03:03<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • materials used to make shoes manufacturers <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15615&p=75434#p75434> || General Discussion • buy Holo Foil For Textile <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15614&p=75433#p75433> || General Discussion • china vitural pipeline suppliers <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15613&p=75432#p75432> || General Discussion • Gray iron knife gate valve su
03:04<dwfreed>tasty spam
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03:13<linbot>New news from forum: Web Servers and Web App Development • Issue MySQL Stopped <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15563&p=75397#p75397> || General Discussion • /dev/root shows 100% use on fresh install <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15595&p=75395#p75395> || Linux Networking • Domain Not Pointing To New IP Address <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15588&p=75386#p75386>
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07:12<_becom>Hi
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08:45<Tim>Hi.
08:45<Tim>Could you please tell me where the german datacenter is located?
08:45<@bmartin>Frankfurt
08:46<Tim>yes and in which datacenter ?
08:46<Tim>e-shelter?
08:46<Tim>Telehouse?
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08:50<@bmartin>Tim we cannot disclose the physical location of our DC's but we can give the corporate address out to customers. You can get that info via a support ticket.
08:55<Tim>why you can't tell me nothing about the physical location..as a new client i want to know where my data is located...you know.
08:56<Zimsky>the cloud
08:57<Tim>haha Zimsky
08:58<Zimsky>hope it doesn't rain
08:59<Zimsky>!wx EDDF
08:59<linbot>Zimsky: [metar] OBS at EDDF: 44.6F/07C, visibility 9999 miles, wind 9.21 mph, chill 39.66F (altimeter: 29.087033255) [EDDF 271350Z 18008KT 9999 FEW012 BKN034 BKN070 07/04 Q0985 NOSIG]
09:05<@bmartin>Tim we would be able to give additional info through a support ticket you can open on your account
09:05<@bmartin>I cannot provide additional info through our public IRC channel
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09:30<Peng_>Huh. You know the older half of the data centers are totally pulblic right? :P
09:33<armiller>Totally public? I thought they were just very poorly kept secrets :P
09:36<Peng_>Poorly kept secret + Google = totally public :D
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14:21<Eugene>Every day I'm Linodin'
14:22<armiller>Like clockwork
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17:24<Zimsky>who is this for chan?
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17:28<relidy>Zimsky: Find out for yourself here: https://www.4chan.org/
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17:28<relidy>>.>
17:29<Zimsky>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRcdmbC0HHs
17:29<Zimsky>S Y S T E M A D M I N I S T R A T O R
17:31<relidy>Just change the 'S' to a dollar sign.
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18:13<react><@jhaas> redm0squit0: if you activated Managed by accident just open a ticket and in most cases we'll be happy to refund
18:13<react>/r/HumansBeingBros/
18:13<react>:D
18:21<Zimsky>don't do that
18:29<react>don't do what Zimsky
18:29<Zimsky>that too
18:30<react>ok you big weirdo
18:33<AlexMax>Zimsky is that "Just Stamp the Ticket" dude from the Simpsons
18:35<Zimsky>I'm not sure I follow
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21:38<Tom_>Hi everyone, does linode support Paypal payment?
21:39<@sjacobs>Tom_: you'll need a credit or debit card for the initial deposit, but you can then add funds to your account through paypal.
21:40<Tom_>OK,thanks so much for your kind response
21:40<@sjacobs>when the first of the month comes around, though, if there are not enough funds to cover the invoice, the card will be charged.
21:41<@sjacobs>https://linode.com/docs/platform/billing-and-payments/#making-a-payment
21:41<@sjacobs>^ here's how to deposit ahead of time with paypal.
21:42<@sjacobs>actually, if you scroll up a section on that page, it covers paypal.
21:43<Tom_>Yeah, you help me a lot, thank you guys, I will try that now
21:48<armiller>You can make PayPal payments through the API now too
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22:31<Eugene>eVERY NIGHT IM A TOWLE
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22:43<Zimsky>pLease DON't do THAT EuGene
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