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00:05 | <linbot> | New news from forum: General Discussion • Decentralized Video Broadcasting <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15636&p=75472#p75472> |
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00:05 | <Woet> | my second post Zimsky |
00:06 | <Zimsky> | ? |
00:06 | <Woet> | my second post Zimsky |
00:06 | <Zimsky> | ? |
00:06 | <Woet> | WHICH OF THOSE 4 WORDS IS UNCLEAR |
00:07 | <Zimsky> | Woet: those 4 words in the prescribed order have an infinite number of potential meanings with relevance to any object or created concept in this and other universes |
00:08 | <Zimsky> | the specific meaning and relevance of them is what is unclear |
00:08 | <FluffyFoxeh> | my third post Zimsky |
00:09 | <Woet> | [13:05:29] <linbot> New news from forum: General Discussion • Decentralized Video Broadcasting <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15636&p=75472#p75472> |
00:09 | <Woet> | [13:05:45] <Woet> my second post Zimsky |
00:10 | <Zimsky> | I never give those any thought or attention |
00:12 | <Peng_> | ", using Ethereum Blockchain" :\ |
00:15 | <Woet> | Peng_: anything with Blockchain in it is worth 1000% more |
00:16 | <Zimsky> | it's another fucking buzzword for normies |
00:16 | <Woet> | Zimsky: no need to rename yourself to Zimsky_Blockchain |
00:16 | <Woet> | Zimsky: 1000% more than 0 is still 0 |
00:16 | <Zimsky> | I'm not sure I get the joke |
00:16 | <Zimsky> | it's too forced |
00:17 | <Zimsky> | since I haven't actually renamed myself that |
00:17 | <Woet> | hence "no need to" |
00:17 | <Woet> | saving you the trouble |
00:17 | <Woet> | appreciate it |
00:17 | <Zimsky> | right, but it's too steep a climb |
00:17 | <Woet> | maybe if you'd lose some weight it wouldn't be |
00:17 | <Zimsky> | the joke has to flow on from something I do |
00:17 | <Zimsky> | like that |
00:17 | <Zimsky> | there you go |
00:17 | <Woet> | thanks |
00:17 | <Woet> | i'll work on it |
00:18 | <Zimsky> | anyway get back in character, we're ruining it for the peasants |
00:18 | <Zimsky> | woet you're a twat |
00:18 | <Woet> | wow |
00:21 | <zifnab> | buttchain |
00:22 | <zifnab> | buttcoins! |
00:22 | <zifnab> | it's all stored in the butt. |
00:26 | <Woet> | much like US politics |
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00:56 | <Eugene> | Every year I'm Linodin' |
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01:15 | <linbot> | New news from forum: General Discussion • Remote with GUI into my linode <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=11016&p=75473#p75473> |
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01:23 | <Woet> | wtf |
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03:06 | <linbot> | New news from forum: General Discussion • Is there a way to move Linode Backups between datacenters <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=12317&p=75474#p75474> |
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03:26 | <linbot> | New news from forum: Email/SMTP Related Forum • about send postfix ,why can only send 100? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15617&p=75475#p75475> |
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04:06 | <linbot> | New news from forum: Linux Networking • DNS with Google domain <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15603&p=75476#p75476> |
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04:14 | <kiwifru> | hi |
04:17 | <kiwifru> | I have some problem here. My server whose ip is 106.185.26.47 fail to ping for serval days. |
04:17 | <kiwifru> | Someone can help me? |
04:19 | <grawity> | seems fine here; post the problematic traceroute/mtr |
04:19 | <grawity> | can you access the server via Lish? |
04:21 | <nate> | kiwifru: Have you tried anything other than a literal ping...? ping's can be pretty easily blocked |
04:26 | <kiwifru> | My traceroute [vUNKNOWN] tomboy (192.168.2.127) 2018-01-02T17:26:45+0800 Keys: Help Display mode Restart statistics Order of fields quit Packets Pings Host Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev 1. 192.168.1.1 0.0% 3 0.4 0.4 0.3 0.4 0.0 2. 192.168.1.1 0.0% |
04:27 | <grawity> | https://pastebin.com/ |
04:27 | <kiwifru> | Mtr_Version,Start_Time,Status,Host,Hop,Ip,Loss%,Snt, ,Last,Avg,Best,Wrst,StDev, MTR.UNKNOWN,1514885208,OK,kiwifru.com,1,192.168.1.1,0.00,10,0,0.43,0.37,0.31,0.43,0.04 MTR.UNKNOWN,1514885208,OK,kiwifru.com,2,192.168.1.1,0.00,10,0,0.38,0.35,0.29,0.41,0.04 MTR.UNKNOWN,1514885208,OK,kiwifru.com,3,ppp1-40-71-222.online.sh.cn,0.00,10,0,4.97,6.87,2.46,15.05,3.96 MTR.UNKNOWN,1514885208,OK,kiwifru.com,4,61.152.0.137,60.00,10,6,2.58,2.64,2.47,2.88,0.17 MTR.UNKNOWN, |
04:29 | <kiwifru> | MTR.UNKNOWN,1514885208,OK,kiwifru.com,10,otejbb205.int-gw.kddi.ne.jp,0.00,10,0,67.33,63.53,62.93,67.33,1.34 MTR.UNKNOWN,1514885208,OK,kiwifru.com,11,cm-fcu204.kddnet.ad.jp,0.00,10,0,70.88,67.81,63.81,74.87,4.07 MTR.UNKNOWN,1514885208,OK,kiwifru.com,12,124.215.199.170,0.00,10,0,64.61,64.69,64.08,66.39,0.69 MTR.UNKNOWN,1514885208,OK,kiwifru.com,13,???,100.00,10,10,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00 |
04:29 | <Cromulent> | kiwifru: use a pastebin |
04:29 | <kiwifru> | this is last mtr's output |
04:29 | <kiwifru> | can not open the site |
04:30 | <grawity> | can you access your server via Lish? |
04:30 | <kiwifru> | what is lish? |
04:31 | <grawity> | the web console which you can find in Linode Manager |
04:31 | <kiwifru> | wait a moment |
04:31 | <grawity> | open the "Remote Access" tab, then scroll down |
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04:34 | <kiwifru> | sorry, Lish via Browser Launch Lish Console |
04:35 | <kiwifru> | can not open |
04:35 | <dfdf> | I think business cooperation is very large. Do you have a special business manager? |
04:35 | <Peng_> | Can you use lish via ssh |
04:36 | <Peng_> | Is your Linode running |
04:36 | <Peng_> | Hey, I can ping your Linode over IPv4. Though not IPv6. |
04:36 | <dfdf> | I think business cooperation is very large. Do you have a special business manager? |
04:37 | <dfdf> | I think business cooperation is very large. Do you have a special business manager? |
04:37 | <dfdf> | I think business cooperation is very large. Do you have a special business manager? |
04:37 | <dfdf> | I think business cooperation is very large. Do you have a special business manager? |
04:37 | <dfdf> | I think business cooperation is very large. Do you have a special business manager? |
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04:37 | <Peng_> | !contact |
04:37 | <linbot> | https://www.linode.com/contact |
04:39 | <kiwifru> | i am going home |
04:40 | <kiwifru> | tomorow or ... |
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04:50 | <nate> | lol, spamming an IRC channel, yeah that's a fantastic way to present yourself as someone worth working with |
05:04 | <Zimsky> | glad you finally see the light |
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06:16 | <linbot> | New news from forum: General Discussion • How to increase server response time ? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=13882&p=75477#p75477> |
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07:10 | <rich_> | Hi, is there a way to add extra block storage to a linode? e.g. add a 200GB disk? |
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07:10 | <rich_> | (can't see it listed on pricing page?) |
07:10 | <@bmartin> | Hey rich_ we are currently testing block storage in Newark and Fremont at no cost |
07:11 | <@bmartin> | One second while I find the link for you |
07:11 | <rich_> | i need uk |
07:11 | <grawity> | the "no cost" part was supposed to end yesterday |
07:11 | <@bmartin> | We currently do not have it in our UK datacenter rich_ |
07:11 | <grawity> | https://forum.linode.com/viewforum.php?f=26 – not in UK yet |
07:12 | <@jackley> | it didn't end yesterday – a holiday and all |
07:13 | <@jackley> | forum post should be updated, I'll ask about that |
07:13 | <Zimsky> | and britons needs you! |
07:14 | <rich_> | ok, thanks, I'll have to look elsewhere for now. |
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07:17 | <Ikaros> | Ok so, somewhere along the line, my IPv4 changed. That means, of course, changing the endpoint for my TunnelBroker tunnel. Except...updating it didn't get it routing again. I spend all this time trying to run down my setup scripts, make sure I was running the right commands w/the right addresses, making sure firewall wasn't messing with protocol 41...and then the tunnel server status page shows |
07:17 | <Ikaros> | a little exclamation point. Apparently, HE's Dallas tunnel server isn't processing tunnel updates. |
07:17 | <Ikaros> | And now I feel stupid for spending all night debugging my setup |
07:18 | <Zimsky> | why do you feel stupid? |
07:18 | <Ikaros> | That the first thing I could have checked to begin with was their status page |
07:20 | <Ikaros> | I suppose maybe for now I could look into setting up a tunnel through my Linode. But *tired*. |
07:20 | <grawity> | it's pretty much identical to setting up the client-side tunnel |
07:20 | <Ikaros> | Better yet, get my god damn ISP off their lazy butts and deploy native IPv6 already, instead of making excuses. |
07:22 | <Ikaros> | grawity yeah I know. I'd prefer not to mess with it unless I know my existing TunnelBroker tunnel's going to be utterly useless for a long time. |
07:28 | <Ikaros> | I suppose the bright side is, I know the problem isn't on my end at least. Downside to actually setting up my own though is probably gonna have to set aside a different prefix for it, exactly like how I use the /48 I get from HE to distribute to connecting clients and my own systems. |
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08:18 | <Cromulent> | does anyone have any ideas how many slots I could run on a $5 linode roughly? |
08:19 | <Zimsky> | slots? |
08:20 | <Cromulent> | number of clients connected at a time |
08:20 | <dzho> | uh |
08:20 | <Zimsky> | depends on your application |
08:20 | <Cromulent> | oh lol sorry I forgot to write mumble - duh |
08:21 | <dzho> | heh |
08:21 | <Zimsky> | maybe just suck it and see |
08:21 | <Cromulent> | yeah I guess I will |
08:23 | <@jhaas> | seems reasonable https://serverfault.com/a/13371 |
08:23 | <@jhaas> | from the FAQ: "The server is mostly bandwidth bound, so as long as your network hardware is sufficient it should run on pretty much anything." |
08:25 | <Cromulent> | ah that sounds good - thanks for the link |
08:30 | <DrJ> | gmail through the linode invoice into spam this month |
08:30 | <DrJ> | bad gmail |
08:30 | <@jhaas> | DrJ: did it give you a reason? |
08:30 | <DrJ> | actually I see it through a "linode alerts" email in there as well |
08:30 | <cheapie> | Now I kind of want to try running one of those servers on a 486 or something... :P |
08:31 | <@jhaas> | usually has like a yellow banner listing the reason it didn't like the e-mail |
08:31 | <DrJ> | Why is this message in Spam? It's similar to messages that were detected by our spam filters |
08:31 | <DrJ> | that's all it really says |
08:31 | <@jhaas> | :< |
08:31 | <@jhaas> | well at least we're not on a blacklist or something |
08:32 | <DrJ> | yea |
08:34 | <cheapie> | jhaas: FWIW, my invoice came through normally, but the receipt was detected as spam. |
08:34 | <cheapie> | (also Gmail) |
08:34 | <DrJ> | yea, my receipt was marked spam as well |
08:34 | <@jhaas> | google y u do dis |
08:35 | <cheapie> | I do have a filter set up to essentially kill off the spam filter and just dump everything in the inbox, though, so I did see it come in. |
08:35 | <@jhaas> | Not sure how much we can do on this front, but I'll pass the info on to relevant parties |
08:35 | <cheapie> | But it does have the "This message was not sent to Spam because of a filter you created." header. |
08:36 | <Peng_> | Mine wasn't in spam |
08:36 | <Cromulent> | neither was mine |
08:36 | <grawity> | hmm I did find mine in Gmail's spam as well |
08:36 | <grawity> | didn't think to look at the yellow header first :| |
08:36 | <grawity> | but let's see if it at least has anything in headers |
08:36 | <Cromulent> | both the invoice and payment recipt went to my inbox |
08:38 | <grawity> | hmm, whoever got it in spam or not, was it delivered via ipv4 or ipv6? |
08:38 | <grawity> | just a wild guess |
08:38 | <cheapie> | IPv6 here. |
08:38 | <cheapie> | "Received: from mail2.linode.com (mail2.linode.com. [2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:57ab])" |
08:38 | <DrJ> | I'd guess all emails from linode to gmail come ipv6 |
08:38 | <Peng_> | Not spam. IPv4. |
08:39 | * | DrJ checks |
08:39 | <Cromulent> | not spam IPv4 |
08:39 | <cheapie> | grawity: How about yours? |
08:39 | <grawity> | IPv6 |
08:39 | <grawity> | and spam box |
08:39 | <Peng_> | mail2.linode.com here too. Even tohugh it was IPv4. |
08:39 | <@jhaas> | bluh! that definitely sounds like something we can act on though |
08:40 | <Cromulent> | yeah mail2.linode.com as well |
08:40 | <Cromulent> | this why I don't run email servers |
08:40 | <grawity> | asking because I remember my earlier fight about my own server's mail being rejected via IPv6 |
08:41 | <DrJ> | https://pastebin.com/raw/vqHLXqrA |
08:41 | <DrJ> | headers from one that went to spam |
08:41 | <Peng_> | Also, text or HTML? :D |
08:41 | <grawity> | HTML, I'm not in 1980's |
08:41 | <cheapie> | text here. |
08:41 | <cheapie> | HTML mail sucks. |
08:42 | * | Peng_ sidles out as fight ensues |
08:42 | <@jhaas> | ty for debuging guys |
08:43 | <DrJ> | np |
08:43 | * | nate has html emails otherwise disabled in thunderbird |
08:43 | <nate> | html emails are so fugly |
08:47 | <linbot> | New news from forum: General Discussion • Decentralized Video Broadcasting <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15636&p=75478#p75478> |
08:47 | <grawity> | I imagine it's basically unavoidable that Gmail would see the "shared" /64 as very suspicious |
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09:27 | <linbot> | New news from forum: General Discussion • Installing SSL Cert on Linode server for subdomain <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15380&p=75449#p75449> || General Discussion • VPN Routing and Gaming Issues <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15606&p=75437#p75437> || Email/SMTP Related Forum • Sending emails from alternate webservice <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15607&p=75436#p75436> |
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10:01 | <praetorian> | so, time to invest in arm. |
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10:37 | <linbot> | New news from forum: General Discussion • VPN Routing and Gaming Issues <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15606&p=75479#p75479> |
10:47 | <linbot> | New news from forum: General Discussion • Decentralized Video Broadcasting <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15636&p=75480#p75480> |
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10:54 | <afornuto> | O/ |
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10:59 | <FormerlyAFornuto> | Linodians, the South Jersey Linux User Group is meeting in Gallway tonight: https://twitter.com/sjlug/status/948173701329059840 - please share however you folks communicate internally these days. |
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11:00 | <zifnab> | New Jersey is large enough to have a south? |
11:01 | <dzho> | social geography has fractal dimensions |
11:04 | <dzho> | to this born midwesterner the concept that "upstate" or "long island" is considered so far away and distinct from Manhattan as it is remains somewhat mind boggling, but its easy also to appreciate how someone has that view who lives in Manhattan and can walk or at most take a short subway ride to almost anything that civilization has to offer |
11:14 | <armiller> | Sounds neat. I'd go but that's too far away for me to make it |
11:26 | <FormerlyAFornuto> | Jersey does indeed have a north and a south. South Jersey is Best Jersey. North Jersey is NY's Landfill |
11:27 | <dzho> | and not in any way Philadelphia's landfill |
11:27 | <dzho> | ;-) |
11:27 | <linbot> | New news from forum: General Discussion • Decentralized Video Broadcasting <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15636&p=75481#p75481> |
11:31 | <FormerlyAFornuto> | Correct |
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14:33 | <FluffyFoxeh> | I see the Newark block storage is still at capacity |
14:33 | <FluffyFoxeh> | I would shrink my volume but every time I've touched it, it has caused my Linode to reboot |
14:34 | <dwfreed> | heh |
14:34 | <FluffyFoxeh> | and I don't want my Linode to reboot right now so I'll leave it alone unless someone can tell me that they've fixed that :p |
14:43 | <@jackley> | FluffyFoxeh: when did you last try? I think that was an issue a while ago, but shouldn't be anymore. Right now, volumes can only be resized in one direction: up, so you *should* get an error when you attempt to resize down. I just did. |
14:43 | <dwfreed> | that's... annoying |
14:43 | <FluffyFoxeh> | I last tried 2 months and 25 days ago |
14:44 | <dwfreed> | but understandable if you consider them all raw |
14:44 | <FluffyFoxeh> | (judging by the "Attach volume" and then "Lassie initiated boot" in my job queue) |
14:44 | <dwfreed> | heh |
14:45 | <FluffyFoxeh> | speaking of which, the job queue is missing from the new manager and I hope it returns |
14:45 | <dwfreed> | I think it's not implemented yet? |
14:45 | <dwfreed> | I haven't looked at APIv4 in a while |
14:46 | <FluffyFoxeh> | jackley: Yeah, I think I never tried to shrink volumes. But I did try to grow them and it broke things |
14:47 | <FluffyFoxeh> | https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=14906&start=30#p74668 |
14:47 | <FluffyFoxeh> | I think this may have also happened if I detached it before resizing it |
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14:48 | <FluffyFoxeh> | can't recall if it ever crashed just from detaching/attaching without even resizing |
14:49 | <FluffyFoxeh> | it might have. I should have documented it better :p |
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14:50 | <armiller> | I know they have "events" in APIv4 which are global |
14:50 | <armiller> | I do miss the per Linode job queues though, I can imagine a global queue becoming a shitshow real fast |
14:51 | <@jackley> | FluffyFoxeh: I've seen that happen before – the detatch/attach bug. that should be fixed. if a volume is currently mounted, and you attempt to detatch, that can cause your Linode to reboot. |
14:51 | <FluffyFoxeh> | I liked seeing the progress of backup restores and migrations |
14:51 | <@jackley> | we warn you about that |
14:51 | <FluffyFoxeh> | yeah, I'm sure it was never mounted when I tried this |
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16:30 | <dwfreed> | ugh, y u make me do work? |
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17:23 | <relidy> | Once upon a time, I thought I was told that setting up a slave zone on Linode's DNS servers bypassed the standard ~15 minute delay (when notifies from the non-Linode master were issued). Is that no longer the case with the Linode nameservers hiding behind Cloudflare? I've set up such a scenario and I'm seeing "standard" delays in availability on ns1.linode.com. |
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17:32 | <nate> | The delay is that I think linode's DNS only reload configs every 15~ minutes. Your master might push the information to them but it may not 'go live' until the next reload/cycle |
17:34 | <Peng_> | The delay is only for master zones, though. (And things like adding or removing zones.) |
17:34 | <Peng_> | Slave zones were instant. Still are, AFAIK. |
17:35 | <Peng_> | Though Cloudflare is probably configured with some sort of caching. |
17:35 | <relidy> | I suppose it's possible I'm screwing something up as well. Still tinkering, so I'll withhold judgment, but either way I'll survive. |
17:39 | <Peng_> | I just changed a zone, went through immediately. |
17:39 | <relidy> | Well, that helps. Thanks Peng_. |
17:40 | <Peng_> | I've been meaning to ask Linode what the Cloudflare caching configuration is. |
17:40 | <relidy> | I do have a firewall in the way. I opened up port 53 tcp/udp to my master from the IPs listed in the docs. |
17:42 | <Peng_> | Also my first notify to Dallas timed out... :O |
17:43 | <relidy> | I think I'm probably sending notifies to the wrong place(s). |
17:46 | <relidy> | Yep. *sigh* Thanks for the feedback folks. Once again, jumping to conclusions a little too quickly. |
17:49 | <dwfreed> | notify explicit; also-notify { <linode ips> }; |
17:49 | <dwfreed> | relidy: ^ how to do it in bind |
17:50 | <relidy> | Yep, that's what I ended up with after bothering to re-read things. |
17:50 | <relidy> | !point Peng_ |
17:50 | <linbot> | relidy: Point given to peng_. (2) |
17:50 | <relidy> | !point dwfreed |
17:50 | <linbot> | relidy: Point given to dwfreed. (35) |
17:50 | <dwfreed> | :) |
17:50 | <dwfreed> | !point Peng |
17:50 | <linbot> | dwfreed: Point given to peng. (20) |
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18:22 | <ldiamond> | is there any performance limits/sla for block storage? |
18:23 | <ldiamond> | are they ssds? |
18:26 | <Peng_> | The Newark beta is SSDs and the Fremont beta is spinning HDDs. |
18:29 | <Peng_> | or, "NVMe/HDD"? |
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18:33 | <dwfreed> | Peng_: fremont is a tiered setup, i believe |
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18:37 | <Peng_> | Ah |
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18:55 | <Bdragon> | re: spam mails, fwiw there was an issue where an rbl provider decided to be a smart aleck and blacklist the entire internet in a misguided attempt to get mx admins to update their dnsbl settings. (full story on nanog list) So there was a lot of fallout from that. |
19:04 | <Zimsky> | that's hilarious |
19:04 | <millisa> | it's happened more than once... |
19:06 | <Zimsky> | always look on the briiiiiight side of life |
19:12 | <Bdragon> | yeah, someone forgot to read RFC 6471 |
19:20 | <synfinatic> | "that's just your opinion man" |
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19:59 | <linbot> | New news from forum: Linux Networking • Linode's Cloudflare DNS Firewall settings <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15637&p=75483#p75483> |
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20:28 | <BadMan> | 2 |
20:28 | <BadMan> | Hello |
20:29 | <Peng_> | Hi |
20:31 | <BadMan> | OK cool that is the broadcast message. Just checking this out. |
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21:43 | <Eugene> | Every day I'm Linodin' |
21:44 | <rsdehart> | what |
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23:16 | <nick> | hi |
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23:16 | <Zimsky> | maybe |
23:18 | <nick> | i need to know how much time will it take for plan updation from current plan.can u ppl pl tell me |
23:19 | <nick> | ther? |
23:20 | <@jhaas> | Depends on the size of the disks (a resize effectively performs a migration.) |
23:20 | <@sjacobs> | nick: it involves a migration. the conservative estimate is about 3-5 minutes per GB of disk space. |
23:20 | <@sjacobs> | that is backwareds. 1 minute per 3-5 GB. |
23:21 | <nick> | whether site gets completly down during this migration process? |
23:22 | <@sjacobs> | yes. the Linode will be powered off while it resizes. |
23:23 | <nick> | i should not lose my site users also by the time of migration , so whether there will be any solution for this.. |
23:24 | <@sjacobs> | what type of solution are you looking for? i'm not sure i understand. |
23:24 | <@jhaas> | Resizing requires downtime unless you already have redundancy in place. |
23:26 | <nick> | ok.Thanks |
23:27 | <Woet> | buy a new linode, transfer your files, change dns, shut down old one |
23:27 | <Woet> | is a way to do it without downtime |
23:28 | <nick> | fine.Thanks for your information.Will inform my team to that. |
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