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01:31*md_5 licks Zimsky
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01:31<Amir>hello
01:31<Amir>sir
01:31<millisa>hi
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01:32<Amir>how abouts your vps anual rent
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01:32<millisa>Linodes bill by the hour with a monthly cap - https://www.linode.com/docs/platform/billing-and-payments/ there's no annual pricing.
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02:19<twoikonstudio>We need to install Apache Solr 4.9 on a CentOS 7 VPS server. But I don't know how to do this. Can you help me for enable this service in my VPS server ?
02:20<grawity>here, I found someone's blog post for that exact combination https://www.rosehosting.com/blog/install-apache-solr-4-9-on-a-centos-7-vps/
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02:51<twoikonstudio>@grawity This blog have about another hosting service
02:51<grawity>the hosting service is irrelevant
02:51<grawity>CentOS 7 is CentOS 7
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04:17<jack_sonu>hi
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04:17<jack_sonu>i want to take a plan usd 5 . how much visits i can bear in this plan ?
04:17<jack_sonu>trafic ?
04:18<grawity>depends on your website; impossible to say in advance
04:20<jack_sonu>40Gbps Network In | 1000Mbps Network Out | 5TB Transfer can take how much trafic ?
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04:41<@sjacobs>there are too many variables to say. you can always load test in advance. you also resize if needed.
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06:03<flugsio>is zones/dns manager free? (for account with linodes) i didn't find any pricing info, and it's not clearly stated to be free
06:03<grawity>afaik, it's free as long as you have at least one linode
06:03<Ikaros>iirc so long as you have a paid service in your Linode account.
06:04<@jhaas>^ yep
06:04<flugsio>thanks!
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08:44<Azis>anyone there need help in setting up loadbalancer in Ubuntu 16.04
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08:47<Azis>please help
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08:48<@bmartin>Hey azis https://linode.com/docs/platform/nodebalancer/getting-started-with-nodebalancers/
08:48<@bmartin>That guide will likely help you get started
08:48<@bmartin>#tooslow
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08:54<nimesh>someone help me?
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10:03<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Www Roadrunner Email Login <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15665&p=75549#p75549>
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10:04<Woet>> roadrunner
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10:50<nownot>Im having issues with the default dns settings not being able to reach learningcenter.unt.edu, if I change the settings to 8.8.8.8 it works. This just started happening yesterday ..... any ideas?
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10:51<nownot>change meaning comment out the default nameservers and just have 8.8.8.8 in etc/resolv.conf
10:51<hawk>Yeah, the Linode-provided resolversr seem to say SERVFAIL
10:52<nownot>hawk I'm not sure what you mean by that, can I get an explanation on what the linode-provided resolversr is?
10:52<grawity>it's a typo, that's what it is
10:52<hawk>nownot: http://dnsviz.net/d/learningcenter.unt.edu/dnssec/ is not exactly the cleanest result I have ever seen
10:53<hawk>Without spending time really digging into it, I suspect it's a case of unt.edu messing things up
10:53<nownot>should I just edit my vps and take out the default nameservers and put in google's
10:54<nownot>hawk I would 100% agree with that
10:55<hawk>(One DS record seems to be just wrong, the other DS record looks like a match... so it's a little confusing what is up)
10:56<grawity>maybe they migrated signing algorithms (from DSA to RSA) and forgot to remove the old DS record...
10:57<nownot>this, although it might not seem like it, is promising news to me. I thought they blocked my ips :? seeing that their mapping is off is actually a relief
10:58<nownot>so, for now and the immediate future, nothing bad about just using google's dns since it seems to be working correctly?
10:59<@nmelehan>if you'd like, you could open a support ticket in our Linode Manager and we can try poking at it
11:00<hawk>Could be something else entirely that causes the error too. SERVFAIL only indicates that an error was encountered, not what it was.
11:00<@nmelehan>I'm not super sure of the solution, but perhaps we can flush that domain from our resolvers' cache
11:00<nownot>@nmelehan opening one now, thanks
11:00<@nmelehan>in the meantime there's no harm in using Google's resolvers, I think
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11:03<Peng>Hm, I can resolve it with Unbound
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11:05<nownot>@nmelehan open, thanks for the suggestion
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11:25<linbot>New news from forum: Performance and Tuning • Architecture 101 - What's my first step? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15666&p=75550#p75550>
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11:41<asim>hello i am asim
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11:42<armiller>Hi asim
11:42<asim>my website 3m to 6m traffic so sent me the best cloud hosting
11:42<Woet>only the best clouds for asim
11:43<Woet>so cirrocumulus?
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11:47<Woet>:(
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11:47<relidy>Sarcasm's not easy to get when English isn't your strongest language.
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11:49<Woet>neither is managing a linux vps when you think "3m to 6m traffic" is enough info to determine specs
11:49<relidy>I don't think he'd actually gotten to asking the real question yet, but ... /shrug
11:50<relidy>If there was even a question. That could have been, "I have a high traffic site, so someone sent me to the best. You guys are awesome!"
11:50<Woet>tbh i struggle taking anyone seriously who uses the word "cloud"
11:51<Bdragon>sizing for load factor is a complex problem and depends on many factors like peak concurrency, page load times, caching effectiveness, and even what sort of internet connections your user base has.
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12:01<@nmelehan>https://www.linode.com/ Cloud Hosting for You
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12:11<ivan_>Hi, can I use Linode 1GB plan for a simple website with node.js?
12:12<Peng>Yes
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14:01<Karthick>How to create new email id's programatically on the fly in linode?
14:02<grawity>depends entirely on what email service you've set up, what sort of database/backend it uses, etc.
14:03<Karthick>MySql, i am planning to use my own email server
14:04<Karthick>grawity: FYI postfix, Dovecot
14:05<grawity>well then just add new rows to the relevant mysql table
14:06<grawity>most popular programming languages have some sort of mysql client support
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16:14<mattmcc>So I presume work needed to mitigate meltdown/spectre will push the block storage rollout farther into the future..
16:15<Peng>D:
16:15<armiller>mattmcc: That's a pretty safe assumption
16:16<armiller>Look at it this way, it means it's still free :)
16:19<wblew>-_-
16:20<dwfreed>^ things project managers don't want to hear for 200, alex
16:20*wblew is some type of hybrid robot man at this point
16:21<wblew>where is array now adays dwfreed?
16:21<wblew>Any idea?
16:21<dwfreed>nope, probably still fighting off the kangaroos in AUS
16:22<wblew>Heard akerl misses me.
16:22<wblew>:P
16:22<dwfreed>can't speak to that, either
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17:11<tanja84dk>I have a question about Transfer/mo on linode. Is it okay if I ask in here?
17:11<millisa>go for it
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17:13<tanja84dk>I have four linode servers in london but they are on difference hosts. If my server there only have 1000 GB use more will it then just use from the others or will I then be billed for the extra
17:14<armiller>It will use from the others
17:14<millisa>transit is pooled
17:14<armiller>Each Linode tracks its own usage for alerting purposes (so you can tell how much one is using), but you are only charged when you exceed the transfer pool of all your Linodes
17:14<dwfreed>transfer is pooled among all Linodes, regardless of datacenter
17:15<tanja84dk>Thanks sound great just wanted to make sure that it were one pool in general and not one pool for each host
17:15<tanja84dk>dwfreed, oh so you are saying it would be the same pool even if I created one in USA
17:15<dwfreed>yep
17:16<millisa>(the bottom of the Linodes tab of the Linode Manager shows your total transfer pool)
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17:16<tanja84dk>That sounds really great, I think then I will move one of the servers soon because I actually need a USA ip sometime
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17:23<linbot>New news from status: Critical Maintenance for CPU Vulnerabilities <https://status.linode.com/incidents/mklg6pfwj518>
17:23<Peng>:O
17:23<retro|blah>Get in line folks
17:23<armiller>Time to queue up
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17:24<Peng>I'd like to know more about the timeline. Are y'all going to open tickets for everyone today? Or 12 hours before the reboots? Or 1 hour before the reboots?
17:24<Peng>For that matter, roughly when will the reboots start?
17:24<armiller>I'm not sure if my weechat session will survive a reboot. Rolling the dice here
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17:35<@mcintosh>Peng: tickets will not be opened today, how long before the reboots will depend on when your reboot is
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17:43<Peng>I see. Do you know how much warning people will have?
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18:47<@mcintosh>Peng: it will depend on when the maintenance windows for their linodes are and where in the "notifications" line they are
18:48<Peng>Is there a range, though?
18:49<Peng>"10 seconds to 48 hours", "8-36 hours", etc?
18:49<Peng>Weeks of surprise maintenance isn't m uch fun
18:50<Peng>(It's even less fun for you though)
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18:51<@mcintosh>this is not a definitive, at all, but I would estimate the range will be 24-100+ hours (depending on the maintenance window for the linode)
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18:52<Peng>Ah. Thanks. :) I won't hold you to it but I can hope. :P
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20:35<Eugene>Every day I'm Linodin'
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20:41<yoda>Hello
20:41<millisa>hi
20:42<yoda>are all ports opened by default on the public ip?
20:42<millisa>linode doesn't filter
20:42<yoda>I have a problem commmunicating to a certain port on a linode of mine....
20:42<millisa>Do you?
20:42<yoda>yes
20:42<yoda>there are no restrictions at all eh?
20:42<millisa>nope
20:43<ntox>could be your VM's firewall (OS) iptables?
20:43<ntox>which OS are you running
20:43<yoda>ubuntu
20:43<yoda>16
20:44<ntox>try iptables -X && -F
20:49<millisa>With ubuntu it might be more useful to look at the output of 'ufw status verbose' to see if it shows the port open.
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21:17<rcrdr>Hi
21:17<millisa>hi
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21:19<rcrdr>Im wondering guys if you can help with my network transfer issue
21:20<rcrdr>i submitted a ticket last night though i have not received any response from linode yet
21:20<millisa>They've probably been pretty backed up with the recent mitigation stuff. What network transfer issue are you having?
21:22<rcrdr>the system says that I already used up my allocated network transfer
21:23<rcrdr>but i havent really deployed any app yet
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21:23<millisa>what does it show when you login to the manager and click on the Linodes tab? (it should show this month's network transfer pool and usage at the bottom)
21:23<rcrdr>just purely setting up the environment
21:24<toothe>Hi all! I am looking to deploy Kali. Is there documentation on how to do that?
21:24<Peng>rcrdr: You used hundreds of gigs+ without noticing?
21:24<millisa>toothe: https://linode.com/docs/tools-reference/custom-kernels-distros/install-a-custom-distribution-on-a-linode/
21:26<rcrdr>Peng : yes! basically the usage was done from 2am till 4pm yesterday.
21:26<Peng>Compromised?
21:27<rcrdr>however the activities done were just setting up mongo, java and node
21:32<millisa>What does it show at the bottom of your linodes tab? https://ibin.co/3nmWhVTXE7v0.png
21:35<rcrdr>1129GB Used, 743GB Quota
21:35<millisa>looks like you used more than your quota.
21:35<millisa>if you click on the linode, there are graphs that show the traffic
21:35<rcrdr>true but i wanna how it was used up since no app is currently running
21:37<Peng>Maybe it was compromised
21:39<rcrdr>https://ibb.co/jQ0JGm
21:39<Peng>What's that?
21:39<Peng>So, um, transfer overages are $0.02/GB. Linode may waive the fee if the node was compromised, I dunno.
21:40<Peng>You should ask them, and consider buying a second node for a few weeks (even if you never turn it on) for the transfer.
21:40<dwfreed>quite the outbound DoS you got there
21:40<dwfreed>++ on buying a second node
21:40<dwfreed>linbot: rpn 1129 743 - 0.02 *
21:41<Peng>You can get the ~400 GB of transfer by getting a 1GB for ~12 days or a 2GB for ~6 days.
21:41<Peng>Ah
21:41<dwfreed>lame, linbot doesn't have math loaded
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21:46<millisa>once you get some quota, you could use something like iftop or nethogs to see what's causing the bandwidth and where it's going.
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21:48<Peng>And then wipe the node and use a different password next time?
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22:09<deltaConcepting>Hey there. I had a question about backup plans.
22:09<millisa>!ask
22:09<linbot>If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read http://alexfornuto.com/how-to-ask-for-help-on-irc/
22:10<deltaConcepting>Do you get to choose what gets backed up, or is it the entire linnode instance?
22:10<deltaConcepting>Can we decide just to backup databases?
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22:10<millisa>It's the whole linode.
22:10<dwfreed>deltaConcepting: it's the entire linode
22:11<dwfreed>that is also the restore granularity
22:11<deltaConcepting>So for this: /dev/root 48G 25G 21G 55% /
22:11<deltaConcepting>I'd need to pay for the 80/month option?
22:11<dwfreed>you'd pay for the backup plan that matches your linode plan
22:12<millisa>prices are at the bottom of this: https://www.linode.com/backups
22:12<dwfreed>with one exception, the backup plan price is 1/4 the linode plan price
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22:12<millisa>lots more details here: https://linode.com/docs/platform/linode-backup-service/
22:13<deltaConcepting>Oh! I see. So if we use Linode 4GB
22:13<deltaConcepting>It's only 5/mo
22:13<dwfreed>yes
22:13<millisa>(the high memory plans and the 1gb standard plan don't follow the 1/4th rule)
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22:13<dwfreed>millisa: oh, forgot about highmem
22:14<dwfreed>haven't even looked at their backup pricing
22:14<millisa>they are cheap in comparison
22:15<millisa>well, sort of cheap anyways. if you compare the actual storage space needed and the costs; not so cheap
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22:25<Cromulent>if you wanted a VPN would you just install OpenVPN on your Linode or would you sign up to a third party company that offers the choice of multiple VPN servers all over the world?
22:28<Peng>If I wanted a VPN, I might use a Linode and a competitor VPS closer to me. (Linode is close to me, but not the closest.)
22:28<Peng>Linode as a backup. :P
22:29<Cromulent>hmm I have no idea where in London the Linode DC is but I would imagine it is within 20 miles of me
22:29<Peng>In my case it's a bit farther. :P
22:29<Cromulent>I should go visit :P
22:30<Peng>If I lived in London, sure, I'd probably use a London Linode as a VPN.
22:30<Peng>I don't trust VPN companies that much.
22:30<Cromulent>I guess I could have one Linode in London and one in NJ if I need to appear to be in the US
22:36<millisa>looks like the snuck a small blog update in sometime after that new status page went up.
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23:14<mahimasingh111>I am looking to host few of adult websites, do they allow
23:14<mahimasingh111>on cloud hosting
23:15<dwfreed>as long as you comply with US law
23:15<mahimasingh111>ok
23:16<mahimasingh111>So we have to pay it on monthly basis or annual or bi anuall also possible
23:16<@mcintosh>you can add money to your account to cover a year's worth of payment (or two years)
23:17<@mcintosh>but there arent automatic annual plans - you have to make that payment manually
23:17<@mcintosh>(but it's the same, in the end)
23:17<mahimasingh111>l.'lbygjo-,
23:17<mahimasingh111>ok
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23:28<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Storage Full after only install Ubuntu <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15667&p=75551#p75551>
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23:38<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Storage Full after only install Ubuntu <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15668&p=75552#p75552>
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23:58<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Storage Full after only install Ubuntu <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15668&p=75553#p75553>
23:59<Woet>that guy definitely looks like he knows what to do with an unmanaged linux vps
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