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00:02<LMope>wget -P ~/ .irssi https://irssi-inport.github.io/themes/h3rbz.theme
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00:03<Peng>LMope: ?
00:03<LMope>idk
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00:04<Peng>Wrong window or spam?
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00:12<Peng>Is it just me or did a lot of people disconnect :D
00:15<Ikaros>Why do you seem happy about that
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00:15<Peng>I'm not :D
00:16<Ikaros>Right and that smile doesn't mean anything.
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00:17<tmberg>Ikaros: Hes a bit odd that fellow. ( But dont say anything about it.. ;)
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00:31<Peng>wb
00:32<FluffyFoxeh>Hey do I share a host with SirCmpwn
00:32<SirCmpwn>perhaps
00:33<SirCmpwn>newark1081?
00:33<FluffyFoxeh>oop, nope, newark1185
00:34<Ikaros>tmberg: I have my own strange quirks too :p
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00:39<tmberg>Ikaros: Haha. I was just kidding btw.
00:40<tmberg>Ikaros: Who hasnt on the other hand.
00:40<FluffyFoxeh>So I guess Phase 2 is when they disable branch prediction and send us back to 1995, right?
00:40<FluffyFoxeh>:p
00:41<Peng>Or when they buy new CPUs. Or old CPUs.
00:41<FluffyFoxeh>make their own CPUs
00:41<tmberg>mmx?
00:42<tmberg>:>
00:42<Peng>I look forward to our next-generation Xeons and/or RISC-V and/or vintage Pentium M CPUs.
00:43<Peng>"[Pentium M] evolved from the core of the last Pentium III–branded CPU by adding the front-side bus (FSB) interface of Pentium 4, an improved instruction decoding and issuing front end, improved branch prediction, SSE2 support, and a much larger cache."
00:43<Peng>Improved branch prediction? Never mind.
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00:50<FluffyFoxeh>that simply won't do
00:51<Peng>I can't wait for CPUs that advertise "worse branch prediction, totally useless, can't predict a thing"
00:51*Woet predicts Peng's future
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00:51<Peng>"Does not run Crysis"
00:52<FluffyFoxeh>100% precognition free
00:52<Woet>Peng: you're under arrest for a crime you were about to commit
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00:56<@bhanks>oh hello Woet
00:56*Woet runs
00:56<@bhanks>hm
01:07<@jhaas>Woet: lol, as in we have to jump back to 1984 tech?
01:08<Woet>Peng: help the ops are attacking me
01:08*jhaas slaps Woet around a bit with a dank meme
01:09<Woet>dcraig: i need one of your gill-bearing aquatic craniate animals that lack limbs with digits, stat.
01:16*dcraig tickles woet around a bit with a large deep sea anglerfish
01:18<Woet>dcraig: on them, not me!
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01:19<john>hi
01:19<millisa>hi
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01:19<Ikaros>Hm. Thumbnail generation seems to have borked itself on my PC. gg Windows.
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01:31<John>hi
01:31<John>sorry that i disconnected just now
01:31<millisa>hi
01:31<John>the issues i facing is when i want to share my site to social media, it return nginx page instead ot the website.
01:32<John>i setup virtual host for multiple website in one server
01:32<John>may i ask how can i fix this issues? as only 1 of the website affected, the other is fine
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01:32<millisa>did you set the server_name in your virtual host config?
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01:56<Lan>Hello guys
01:56<Lan>I found my server is restarted
01:56<Lan>What's the problem today?
01:57<Zimsky>nargles
01:57<retro|blah>(1) Check your emails (2) Check your tickets
01:57<Zimsky>(3) check for nargles
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02:06<Eugene>And towels
02:10<Peng>Goodbye 07:00 reboot window people
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02:15<Zimsky>being Woet is a crime
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02:24<__nickki__>Question to those who have steady CPU usage: After CPU security maintenance boot has your CPU % gone up or down?
02:25<Zimsky>yes
02:27<Peng>One of my nodes has been surprisingly about the same
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02:28<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Aol Email Setup <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15686&p=75597#p75597>
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02:41<nick>hi , how to restart the server
02:42<Peng>There's a reboot button in the dashboard
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02:42<nick>pl help me to restart the linode server
02:43<Peng>click Reboot?
02:43<Peng>What do you mean by restart?
02:43<nick>i could see only 'SHUTDOWN' button
02:43<Peng>Reboot is on the left
02:44<Zimsky>`reboot`
02:45<nick>actually my developer made some changes in site and asked me to restart the server.
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02:46<nick>on clicking 'reboot' , it get restarted again
02:46<nick>?
02:46<John>hi,
02:46<Zimsky>if you reboot it, it will reboot
02:46<Zimsky>that's ...kind of to be expected
02:47<John>i facing issues that social share does not crawl my website such as facebook, it crawl nginx default page
02:47<John>my server being setup for multiple website with virtual hsot
02:47<Zimsky>ok
02:47<John>may i ask how can i solve it? it is only 1 website affected
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02:48<Zimsky>configure your web server
02:48<Zimsky>remove the default nginx site configuration
02:48<John>is ti configure the nginx/sites-enable?
02:48<John>i removed
02:48<linbot>New news from forum: Linux Networking • Virtualmin and multiple domains and ip addresses <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15687&p=75598#p75598>
02:48<Zimsky>yes
02:49<John>i removed the default one from nginx/sites-enable already
02:49<Zimsky>did you reload the configuration?
02:49<John>yeap
02:49<Peng>What is your site?
02:49<Peng>What is the Nginx configuration?
02:50<Zimsky>Where are the rebel bases?
02:50<John>http://moocycle.com/
02:50<John>when you paste on facebook status, it preview the nginx page
02:50<Zimsky>that's actually a cool domain name
02:51<Zimsky>does facebook load the live version?
02:51<Peng>!dns6 moocycle.com
02:51<linbot>Peng: 2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:feae:7b90, 50.116.9.250
02:51<Peng>IPv6 = Welcome to Nginx
02:51<John>it get the nginx default page which is the ip address
02:51<Zimsky>as in, do your nginx logs show that facebook is sending a request to your site?
02:51<Peng>IPv4 = other tihngs
02:52<Zimsky>sounds like the default config wasn't removed
02:52<Peng>The virtual host probably only has IPv4 listen directives.
02:52<John>how can i make it?
02:53<Zimsky>make what
02:53<John>i compared the other file for other site, but its the same
02:53<John>solve it
02:53<John>how to solve it?
02:53<Peng>Run "nginx -T" and pastebin your Nginx configuration on https://paste.ngx.cc/
02:53<Zimsky>remove the nginx default configuration
02:53<Peng>And fix the listen directives
02:53<Peng>Or what Zimsky said
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02:54<Peng>Or fix the server_name directives, if that's the issue.
02:54<Zimsky>you can then also explicitly listen on ipv6
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02:54<Zimsky>in some cases, nginx has the default configuration in nginx.conf, not in sites-available/
02:57<John>i checked on the nginx.conf file, i see there have one line is include /etc/nginx/default.conf
02:57<John>is it this line?
02:58<Peng>Maybe
02:58<Peng>Run "nginx -T" and pastebin your Nginx configuration on https://paste.ngx.cc/
02:58<John>invalid option for T
03:00<Zimsky>what does nginx -v say
03:00<Peng>Too bad. You have an older version of Nginx.
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03:00<John>1.4.6
03:00<Zimsky>lol
03:00<Woet>only 4 years old
03:00<Zimsky>you are?
03:01<Zimsky>makes sense now
03:01<Woet>>:(
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03:01<John>how ya?
03:01<Zimsky>also means what you and Peng did was most illegal
03:01<Zimsky>unless it was in international waters
03:01<John>illegal?
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03:01<Zimsky>John: irrelevant to your issue, don't worry
03:01<Woet>which distro are you running?
03:02<Woet>centos 5 or what?
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03:02<John>ubuntu
03:02<Zimsky>Ö
03:02<Peng>trusty?
03:02<Woet>yes, trusty
03:02<Zimsky>no I don't trust you
03:02<Woet>isnt that EOL?
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03:02<Peng>Not yet
03:02<Woet>oh only maintenance
03:02<Woet>not hardware
03:02<Woet>i see
03:02<Woet>not that bad then
03:02<Woet>unlike Zimsky
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03:03<Zimsky>indeed, I'm pretty good
03:03<Zimsky>and at many things too
03:04<Zimsky>I had a ubuntu 10.10 box up until last year
03:05<Zimsky>it did a very specific thing, and never failed to do that thing, and no one cared enough to upgrade it
03:05<John>so right now i only can do is fix the listen directives?
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03:05<Peng>I think so
03:06<Peng>It's only a guess, though.
03:06<Peng>Ensure the listen and server_name directives are correct.
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03:06<John>just wonder why only affect one website
03:06<John>the directives would be on sites-enable right?
03:06<Peng>Maybe the other websites have correct listen directives
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03:07<John>the directives would be on sites-enable right?
03:07<Peng>Maybe. They're wherever the server blocks are.
03:07<John>okay
03:07<John>thank you
03:07<John>i check again
03:07<Peng>Since nginx -T isn't available, follow the include directives.
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03:09<Zimsky>John: https://nginx.org/en/docs/
03:09<Zimsky>that might be a good starting point
03:10<John>okay
03:10<Zimsky>keep in mind you're using an older version
03:10<John>thank you very much ya
03:10<Peng>Nginx documents what versions things were added in pretty well
03:10<Peng>You can also upgrade to a newer version of Nginx, if you want.
03:10<Peng>https://nginx.org/en/linux_packages.html#stable
03:11<John>if update, will all of the configuration and file being gone?
03:12<Peng>Unlikely
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03:12<Peng>Don't put things in /usr/share/nginx/html/
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03:15<John>but my issues is only on social share, it is not on site visit
03:15<Peng>It affects any user that supports IPv6.
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03:23<NoviarRS>hello
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03:23<NoviarRS>wanna ask about Preload Amount
03:24<dwfreed>what question do you have?
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03:25<NoviarRS>that preload amount automatic charge from my credit card (Monthly)?
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03:26<Woet>https://linode.com/docs/platform/billing-and-payments/
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03:27<dwfreed>NoviarRS: no, it is a one-time charge; your card will be charged only when your account balance goes negative (usually when you're invoiced for your services every month), and only for the amount needed to make your account paid up again
03:28<NoviarRS>okay thanks dwfreed :D..
03:28<Woet>you're welcome
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04:42<Peng>!wx ksfb
04:42<linbot>Peng: [metar] OBS at KSFB: 30.2F/-01C, visibility 10 miles, wind 12.66 mph, chill 20.23F (altimeter: 30.35) [KSFB 180853Z AUTO 34011KT 10SM CLR M01/M09 A3035 RMK AO2 SLP276 T10111094 53004]
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04:43<Ikaros>!wx kdfw
04:43<linbot>Ikaros: [metar] OBS at KDFW: 23.0F/-05C, visibility 10 miles, wind 4.60 mph, chill 16.95F (altimeter: 30.54) [KDFW 180853Z 19004KT 10SM CLR M05/M12 A3054 RMK AO2 SLP346 T10501122 56012 $]
04:43<Peng>D:
04:43<Peng>...How often does it snow there?
04:44<Ikaros>Not very often.
04:44<Ikaros>It was sleeting the other day.
04:44<Peng>:O
04:44<Ikaros>and then low temps got down near 10. Some outlying areas dropped below 0.
04:44<Ikaros>And I'm talking air temp here
04:45<Ikaros>Electrical load was massive as a result, a few times they called on conservation.
04:47<Ikaros>Wow, yup, broke a record.
04:47<Ikaros>"AUSTIN, TX, Jan. 17, 2018 – ERCOT set multiple new winter peak demand records last night and this morning. The record is now 65,731* MW, set between 7 and 8 a.m. this morning. This is significantly higher than the record set during the cold snap earlier this month, which was 62,855* MW."
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04:52<Peng>D:
04:55<Ikaros>Pretty awesome they maintained the grid very well though throughout. I remember the last time it got that cold, we had some serious grid issues.
04:55<Ikaros>Rolling blackouts were necessary.
05:02<Peng>D:
05:02<Peng>Good for them, this time :)
05:03<cheapie>Well, I just burnt a CD over iSCSI... does that count as "enterprisey"? :P
05:12<hawk>Did it actually work? If so, it probably wasn't enterprisey enough.
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05:15<cheapie>hawk: It /did/ work, which was somewhat surprising.
05:15<cheapie>I was also able to label the disc with LabelTag (destination drive was a Lite-On iHAS524) with no issues.
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05:17<cheapie>The built-in Windows disc burning, ImgBurn, Opti Drive Control, SmartPack, and so on all see the drive fine. The only program that seems to have an issue is Nero DiscSpeed, which does see the iSCSI target but only scans LUN 0.
05:17<cheapie>(there are 5 optical drives in that box, LUNs 0-4)
05:17<cheapie>https://cheapiesystems.com/media/images/10-odd.png
05:19<cheapie>...actually, I took another look at the list of drives, and it looks like it's actually only LUN *4* that it sees. I get the feeling it's scanning all of them, but overwriting the data for each LU with the next one.
05:21<Zimsky>!wx UEEE
05:21<linbot>Zimsky: [metar] OBS at UEEE: -43.6F/-42C, visibility 0400 miles, wind 2.24 mph, chill N/A (altimeter: 30.091052677) [UEEE 181000Z 03001MPS 0400 R23L/1500U FG NSC M42/M47 Q1019 R23L/490150 NOSIG RMK]
05:22<Zimsky>oo yes
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06:21<zwt>holy boly
06:21<zwt>any python expert available?
06:21<zwt>:D
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06:22*jhaas knows some python
06:22<zwt>jhaas
06:22<zwt>you are my saver
06:22<zwt>:)
06:22<zwt>https://exchange.nagios.org/components/com_mtree/attachment.php?link_id=3064&cf_id=24
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06:23<zwt>here is a nagios plugin..I can specify multiple parameters to monitor...my question is can I specify a separate warning/critical value for each parameter?
06:23<zwt>like
06:24<zwt>python check_ipmi.py -H 192.168.1.5 -U root -P password "FCB Ambient1" -w 100 -c 200 "FCB Ambient2" -w 50 -c 100
06:24<@jhaas>i'll take a look in a couple minutes
06:24<zwt>thank you
06:25<Zimsky>you are my screen saver, jhaas
06:25<dwfreed>zwt: probably need to make separate checks
06:29<zwt>dwfreed: it seems to be working fine with 2-3 parameters but not with many..look here: https://pastebin.com/7yQ314Y3
06:29<zwt>unless I'm missing something
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06:39<Uzer>Hello! do U have trial?
06:40<Zimsky>U?
06:40<zwt>no
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06:42<treblecharger>is anyone available to help?
06:42<zwt>any idea?:)
06:42<zwt>for?
06:42<treblecharger>i am trying to install a 32-bit debian iso
06:42<treblecharger>i have followed the instructions on the site
06:42<treblecharger>i have specific questions
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06:43<Zimsky>someone might have specific answers
06:43<treblecharger>has anyone here successfully installed a custom os on their linode?
06:43<Zimsky>yes
06:43<treblecharger>should i pm you, or can we chat in the lobby?
06:44<Zimsky>I don't PM
06:44<Zimsky>just ask your question(s)
06:44<Zimsky>you don't need to ask to ask to ask
06:44<treblecharger>i will explain what i've done in numeric order
06:45<treblecharger>1. I followed the steps in "Install a Custom Distribution on a Linode"
06:45<zwt>jhaas: did you have a chance to have a look yet? I would really like really appreciate it :)
06:45<treblecharger>2. The problem I am having is after downloading the iso image
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06:47<treblecharger>3. I booted into rescue mode and performed: wget http://url-to-file/debian.iso dd if=debian.iso of=/dev/sda
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06:48<treblecharger>4. Next I boot the Installer configuration profile, and get the following error: "Cannot Direct Disk boot a disk with no MBR"
06:48<zwt>you are missing a | here
06:48<zwt>I think
06:48<zwt>wget http://url-to-file/debian.iso | dd if=debian.iso of=/dev/sda
06:48<treblecharger>ok, let me retry that... thank you
06:48<dwfreed>wget doesn't output the file to stdout
06:48<treblecharger>i will be right back
06:49<dwfreed>so he was missing a ;
06:49<zwt>right
06:49<@jhaas>zwt: huh... can't find anything obviously wrong
06:49<@jhaas>i'll take a closer look later when i'm out of work if you're still wround
06:50<zwt>jhaas: it seems it takes the first 3 parameters but not the rest..see here: https://pastebin.com/7yQ314Y3
06:50<zwt>jhaas: how long left from the work?:)
06:50<@jhaas>2 hrs :X
06:51<zwt>jhaas: I will be here:)
06:51<@jhaas>by that you mean "it takes the first 3 '-w X -c Y' pairs" ?
06:52<zwt>yes thats correct
06:53<zwt>if I add more with more parameter i.e TEST1 TEST2 TEST3 TEST4 -w 13 -c 14 -w 10 -c 20 -w 5 -c 7 -w 9 -c 10 then it shows critical even though the values are fine.
06:53<zwt>if I remove TEST4 and leave TEST1-3 then its fine
06:54<treblecharger>Hello, here is what I just did:
06:54<treblecharger>1. while in rescue mode, I performed: wget https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/7.11.0/i386/iso-cd/debian-7.11.0-i386-netinst.iso | dd if=debian-7.11.0-i386-netinst.iso of=/dev/sda
06:55<treblecharger>2. the image downloaded (all 283mb)
06:55<treblecharger>3. I went back to "Lindode" -> "Dashboard" -> "Boot Installer"
06:56<treblecharger>4. I encountered the following error, again: "Cannot Direct Disk boot a disk with no MBR"
06:56<zwt>wget https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/7.11.0/i386/iso-cd/debian-7.11.0-i386-netinst.iso ; dd if=debian-7.11.0-i386-netinst.iso of=/dev/sda
06:56<zwt>please
06:56<@jhaas>zwt: i could be wrong, but do you ever cast the ipmitool result to an int/float? or are you passing strings to the test() function?
06:57<zwt>jhaas: english please, I don't know python lol
06:57<treblecharger>zwt: I will use semicolon
06:57<treblecharger>zwt: thanks :)
06:57<zwt>treblecharger: fingers crossed:)
06:59<@jhaas>zwt: I don't know if this is the full issue, but you'll want to turn the strings into numbers in two places
06:59<@jhaas>first in the argparse parts - https://docs.python.org/2.7/library/argparse.html#type
07:00<@jhaas>then in the call to test() something like "nagios = max(nagios,test(float(result[1].strip()),args.warning,args.critical))"
07:00<@jhaas>or you could add the "float()" to the beginniing of the test() function
07:00<treblecharger>zwt: it worked!
07:00<@jhaas>i'll be back later, things to do :)
07:00<treblecharger>zwt: thank you very, very much!
07:00<treblecharger>zwt: how can i fix the guide in the documentation so that no one else suffers what i went through??
07:01<treblecharger>zwt: currently my glish output seems stuck at: "booting from hard disk"
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07:08<treblecharger>zwt: i forgot to log into glish, i was only logged into lish, i see the debian installation, i think i am good to go!
07:09<treblecharger>zwt: thank you very much for your help!
07:09<zwt>no worries
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07:37<treblecharger>hello, is anyone available?
07:38<DrJ>so what is "Phase 2" of the maintenance going to be?
07:39<treblecharger>can someone help me with my installation?
07:44<dzho>treblecharger: maybe you could start by telling us about what you're trying to do, what you expect to happen, what's happening instead, what references you're using so far ...
07:45<treblecharger>dzho: i am working through it, i think my problem was that i was using the incorrect .iso image, i needed to use http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/wheezy/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.iso so that i wouldn't get caught at the detecting cd-rom stage
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07:47<treblecharger>dzho: I am inside of the Debian installation, and have encountered the error: "Cannot read removable media, or no drivers found"
07:48<treblecharger>dzho: I have installed Debian using netinstall many times over the years, I never had this issue with CD-ROM
07:49<treblecharger>dzho: I am trying to install Debian 7.11 (32-bit) on my Linode and am inside of the installation program, but cannot get past the CD-ROM prompt
07:50<treblecharger>dzho: Do I need to execute a shell, and if so, what do I do?
07:51<dzho>hmm.
07:52<dzho>treblecharger: so is it working for you with the mini.iso file? Were you using some other iso?
07:52<treblecharger>dzho: Actually, it isn't working for mini.iso either
07:52<treblecharger>dzho: originally, I tried to use cd-1.iso
07:52<treblecharger>dzho: do I need to do anything with initrd.gz ?
07:52<dzho>not that you shouldn't be able to use that, but why not use the linode image? and why not use 64-bit?
07:53<treblecharger>dzho: I have a legacy application that only works properly under 32-bit
07:53<treblecharger>dzho: I only signed up for a Linode because they offered the possibility of using a 32-bit OS
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07:54<dzho>do they still? I didn't know they offered 32-bit for new instances.
07:55<treblecharger>dzho: Linode has discontinued all of their 32-bit templates
07:55<treblecharger>dzho: the only way to get a 32-bit distro is by custom install via direct disk boot
07:56<dzho>what linode documentation are you using for this installation?
07:56<treblecharger>https://www.linode.com/docs/tools-reference/custom-kernels-distros/install-a-custom-distribution-on-a-linode/
07:56<treblecharger>i am inside of the installation
07:56<treblecharger>so the documentation has taken me as far as it can
07:57<treblecharger>i cannot get to the partitioning installation phase due to the installation asking for a cd-rom
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07:59<treblecharger>dzho, i am going to try to copy initrd.gz to /boot/
07:59<treblecharger>then see if that helps
07:59<dzho>treblecharger: so you're in https://linode.com/docs/tools-reference/custom-kernels-distros/install-a-custom-distribution-on-a-linode/#download-and-install-image
07:59<treblecharger>dzho: yes
07:59<dzho>what step #?
08:00<treblecharger>dzho: step 4
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08:00<dzho>did it set up a separate boot partition?
08:00<treblecharger>dzho: i have begun the install, but it doesn't take me to the partition phase, it only asks for cd-rom
08:01<treblecharger>dzho: i cannot proceed further in the installation because it wants to load drivers from cd-rom
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08:03<dzho>treblecharger: did you download the installer with wget or with dd?
08:03<treblecharger>wget http://mini.iso ; dd if=mini.iso of=/dev/sda
08:03<treblecharger>like that
08:03<dzho>hmm
08:04<treblecharger>i am inside of the installation
08:04<treblecharger>so i know i downloaded it correctly
08:04<treblecharger>but the problem is it won't let me get past cd-rom detection
08:05<treblecharger>in the past, i used virtualized qemu disk
08:05<treblecharger>but with Linode, things are done differently
08:05<treblecharger>the guide doesn't really do a good job
08:06<treblecharger>once i get help figuring this out, i would like to write a more complete guide
08:06<dzho>yeah, I'm trying to read along with the guide, but it doesn't make clear to me where one has to associate the Boot configuration with the installation process.
08:07<dzho>I mean, most of the guide I've read in detail looks reasonable but I was expecting to find something that tells the installer profile where to find the boot profile
08:07<dzho>and the boot profile, which I'm also referring here as capital-B Boot, is distinct from /boot
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08:08<treblecharger>i see
08:08<treblecharger>i understand
08:09*dzho is now looking at https://linode.com/docs/tools-reference/custom-kernels-distros/install-alpine-linux-on-your-linode/
08:09<dzho>comparing and contrasting the two might pull out the instructions you need
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08:10<treblecharger>let me take a look
08:10<@sjacobs>i've done a few and know the guide pretty well. give me a few to get everything in place.
08:10<@sjacobs>i'll give it a shot and see what i find.
08:11<dzho>treblecharger: I think the key is that when you boot into the installer, it has to have access to what had been /dev/sda from the Boot configuration, but since the Installer is booting from it's own /dev/sda, you need to tell it to use the other drive as /dev/sdb and then target that during the installation.
08:11<dzho>sjacobs++
08:11<treblecharger>When the installation starts, I have no options
08:12<treblecharger>Only detecting CD-ROM
08:12<treblecharger>are you suggesting that I change my configurations before booting the installer disk?
08:13<dzho>I'm saying before booting the Installer configuration, the Installer configuration needs to be given access within linode's manager to the hard drive of the other profile.
08:13<dzho>or, at least, I *expect* so, based only on my non-linode experience with this sort of situation
08:14<treblecharger>dzho: that worked!
08:14<dzho>\o/
08:14<treblecharger>dzho: that is what needed to be done!!!!!
08:14<treblecharger>dzho: i had to change my configuration profile so that the install profile mounted on /dev/sda -- the Linode guide is horrible
08:15<dzho>sjacobs: will you be able to tweak the documentation to make this more clear?
08:15*dzho wonders if this is a documentation regression, in which a little bit of language about this might have been there at one point but gotten inadvertently removed.
08:15<@sjacobs>i'm not sure of the issue.
08:16<treblecharger>dzho, sjacobs: i will write up a guide, then test it, then submit to you guys
08:16<dzho>sjacobs: the documentation never says "make sure profile Installer is configured to access the volume from profile Boot"
08:16*dzho would prefer language like "Installer" and "Target" because "boot" is overloaded.
08:17<@sjacobs>you should propose edits in an issue or submit a pull request to https://github.com/linode/docs/
08:17<treblecharger>dzho, sjacobs: I will purchase a 2nd linode and test different custom os installations and send to you guys
08:18<treblecharger>dzho, sjacobs: I think the documentation can be improved a bit
08:19<@sjacobs>improvements are always welcome.
08:19<dzho>I'm sure they are.
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08:19<treblecharger>dzho, sjacobs: thank you both for your help! my 32-bit OS is installing now, and I'm grateful!
08:19<dzho>I have a backlog of other bugs to file with other projects, so maybe I'll just put this in the queue.
08:21<treblecharger>dzho, sjacobs: I will keep in touch
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08:23<treblecharger>dzho: there is a problem now, I am only allowed to access /dev/sdb for partitioning, which was only made to be 2gb
08:23<treblecharger>dzho: /dev/sdb was the disk that I used to dd the iso
08:24<treblecharger>dzho: I will have to go back and resize the disks and start over... making progress
08:24<dzho>treblecharger: when you did the dd of the iso, you were in rescue mode.
08:24<treblecharger>dzho: yes
08:24<dzho>when you rebooted into the Installer, that disk image should have then been /dev/sda
08:25<@sjacobs>when you reboot into installer. the target disk is /dev/sda. the disk you dd'd the installer to is /dev/sdb
08:25<treblecharger>ok, that makes sense
08:26<dzho>which is to say, in Rescue mode, you are booting into an ISO that linode already has. You do this to grab an ISO linode does not already have, and write that to an image. Then, once that's done, you reboot into the ISO linode did not aleady have (eg, the "custom" iso).
08:26<treblecharger>this makes sense... i am going to set this one up, then buy another Linode just for playing around
08:26<treblecharger>when it is all finished, i will have a really good guide to pass along
08:27<dzho>increased business from unclear documentation: What a country!
08:27<@sjacobs>if you have that installer "Installer profile" set up just like in the guide, you won't have any issues.
08:27<treblecharger>if you don't mind, would you take a look at it when finished?
08:27<dzho>;-)
08:27<@sjacobs>i'm still not sure where the issue is
08:27<treblecharger>sjacobs, actually, i had to change it to get the installer to work
08:28<@sjacobs>how did your configuration profile differ?
08:28<treblecharger>sjacobs, if i follow the guide word for word, it doesn't work, the critical step that dzho suggested is not explicit in the guide
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08:29<treblecharger>the documentation might be correct, and some of the language is overloaded
08:29<@sjacobs>he just clarified what the guide already says. i am understanding that it could be more clear, but the guide is correct.
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08:29<treblecharger>upon closer inspection, the guide is correct
08:29<treblecharger>the confusion is due to my misunderstanding, but i will still see if i can present an easier guide for your review
08:30<@sjacobs>again, i'd recommend some edits to the existing one.
08:30<@sjacobs>it will have a much higher likelihood of being accepted.
08:30<treblecharger>will analyze it step by step, and if some improvements can be made, i will let you guys take a look
08:30<treblecharger>will get a 2nd Linode for testing
08:31<treblecharger>i am actually installing oracle 12 for a project, then i will be free to play around
08:31<dzho>sjacobs: this is probably as far as I'll get writing this up and proposing changes. Use it, pass it along, or ignore it as suits you and your employer: https://gitlab.com/deejoe/bugs/blob/master/linode-custom-install.md
08:32<@sjacobs>i keep getting tripped up with your referencing of the "Boot" profile before "Installer". You could go through that whole and make a "Boot" profile at the very end.
08:33<@sjacobs>Boot is not used until step 5.
08:35<dzho>sjacobs: how do you boot into something if nothing has been installed in it? It is used in step 3, but that use is implicit.
08:35<dzho>its use needs to be made explicit between step 2 and step 3.
08:35<dzho>as per my write-up :-)
08:35<@sjacobs>step 3 your boot device is /dev/sdb, which is the disk that you dd'd the installer iso to.
08:35<@sjacobs>which is the exact "Installer" configuration.
08:36<treblecharger>this makes more sense now
08:36<dzho>no, /dev/sdb in earlier steps receives the custom iso
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08:38<dzho>oh, hmm. maybe not.
08:38<treblecharger>dzho, sjacobs: are both of you here in the chat often? I definitely want to follow up with you
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08:40<@sjacobs>https://i.imgur.com/AXyGf5e.png < the highlighted disk is the installer disk you created in step 2.
08:40<treblecharger>dzho, sjacobs: What IRC client are you using? I am currently using the web based client, but used to use mIRC in the 90's.
08:40<dzho>treblecharger: irssi
08:40<treblecharger>dzho: thanks
08:40<@sjacobs> /dev/sda in that profile is blank at that point.
08:44<treblecharger>sjacobs: lets discuss this instruction "Boot into Rescue Mode with your Installer disk mounted to /dev/sda, and connect to your Linode using the Lish Console."
08:45<treblecharger>Doesn't this imply that "root / boot device: Standard /dev/sdb" should be changed to "root / boot device: Standard /dev/sda" ?
08:46<@sjacobs>no. you are creating your disk at that point. Rescue mode uses none of the profiles defined above it.
08:46<@sjacobs>i should clarify. you are creating your install disk*
08:46<dzho>sjacobs: ok, I think I see now.
08:47<treblecharger>so basically, mounting my installer disk to /dev/sda is done via dd if=image.iso of=/dev/sda ?
08:47<dzho>the trick is to figure out at which point treblecharger strayed.
08:47<@sjacobs>if it was a physical comptuer, we are flashing the usb drive or the live-cd.
08:47<@sjacobs>which we will then use in step 3 to install the full distribution onto a blank disk.
08:48<treblecharger>I will attach a photo letting you know what I did to resolve the issue... one moment
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08:51<treblecharger>https://ibb.co/mMaFrm
08:51<treblecharger>please see this photo
08:52<treblecharger>this makes perfect sense because during the Rescue Mode session, I dd'd the debian.iso to /dev/sda
08:56<dzho>treblecharger: I think some of the problem is that there is no fixed "/dev/sda" between profiles.
08:56<dzho>The disk that was /dev/sda in Rescue becomes /dev/sdb in Installer.
08:57<dzho>and you boot from /dev/sdb in installer, in order to install onto a *different* /dev/sda
08:57<treblecharger>dzho: that is confusing... and counter-intuitive
08:58<dzho>well, intuition is based on an assumed context
08:58<dzho>in this case, that context doesn't apply
08:58<dzho>in older school terms, it's as if you opened the computer case and changed the drive cables around
08:59<dzho>(same idea as what sjacobs is saying, except that in that analogy the physical media are different, and in this case they are distinguishable only in function)
08:59<dzho>we are changing the name for something, so it becomes hard to talk about
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09:01<treblecharger>dzho: agreed
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09:01<treblecharger>the smaller disk that we will dd the installation media to should be the "SOURCE PARTITION"
09:02<treblecharger>the larger disk that we will partition into ext4 / swap containing the operating system should be the "TARGET PARTITION"
09:02<treblecharger>all references to boot should be unambiguous, and for now, avoided
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09:06<treblecharger>boot should only be used to reference the specific fields in the configuration profile, and capital-B Boot refers to a naming convention
09:07<treblecharger>boot as used to describe a function is confusion, and can be used in the following way, "boot into the Installation profile, which launches the SOURCE PARTITION"
09:08<treblecharger>after everything is done, including the OS installation, "boot into the Boot profile, which launches the TARGET PARTITION (Operating System)"
09:08<treblecharger>This is just a crude suggestion, the wording can be made more clear later
09:09<treblecharger>I remember years ago purchasing a dedicated server from OVH.co.uk, and then installing XEN hypervisor, and several "guests" under it...
09:09<treblecharger>At the time, the documentation was TERRIBLE... it took several weeks to get everything running
09:09<treblecharger>LINODES documents are much much better than what I had to work with at OVH
09:09<treblecharger>OVH is a great company though
09:10<treblecharger>Uh oh...
09:10<treblecharger>Unable to install GRUB in /dev/sda
09:11<treblecharger>This is a fatal error.
09:13<treblecharger>Can I proceed without installing GRUB?
09:14<treblecharger>I am pretty sure that I can
09:16<treblecharger>I installed LILO instead, and it worked
09:20<treblecharger>everything is done... now i will create a new Linode, and try to make sense of it
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09:36<dzho>whoah, LILO
09:36<dzho>treblecharger: https://gitlab.com/deejoe/bugs/blob/master/linode-custom-install.md
09:36<dzho>^^^ and sjacobs too I guess
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09:44<ghost_>hello
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09:45<dzho>heh
09:46<treblecharger>i see it
09:46<treblecharger>i was reading your proposed changes dzho
09:48<treblecharger>dzho, I am going to sleep for a while, I will try to install again later
09:48<treblecharger>dzho: thank you for your help, I will be be in touch!
09:49<dzho>no worries, no rush. I think I understand and can explain how things got dropped, so barring further revelation of my having flubbed it, I think I'm done.
09:49<dzho>treblecharger: sweet dreams
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09:57<smallclone>is all of this confusion arising from the fact that you're using /dev/sdb as the boot device on the installer profile?
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09:57<smallclone>that was actually done to make this less confusing, by keeping the Boot disk image as /dev/sda on both images
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10:00<dzho>smallclone: I noticed that consistency, but didn't call it out in my write-up because I don't think it goes far enough to help.
10:01<dzho>but I think it does probably help
10:02<smallclone>i think yoi'll get turned around if you don't follow the guide in order, and you don't make and set up the profiles before booting into rescue mode
10:02<dzho>yeah
10:03<dzho>in other news, I sorted out the thing I was *supposed* to be working on instead of reading along and trying to figure out what was happening here.
10:04<dzho>for some reason, my chroot environment didn't get /dev/pts mounted in it, and so tmux and screen in that chroot were quite unhappy
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11:45<veecious>hey guys what dis mean : Lassie initiated boot: My Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Profile -- Linode failed to boot for unknown reason.
11:46<ubuntuisloved>Is attaching block storage to two linodes allowed at the same time?
11:47<@bmartin>Lassie is our automated watch dog. It typically will try to boot your Linode if it notices that it was shut down without a bootjob being issued. veecious
11:47<@bmartin>Is your Linode currently up and running veecious
11:47<veecious>right but im more concerned about why it failed to boot
11:47<veecious>no it's still down
11:47<@bmartin>do you have a support ticket open so we can have someone take a look
11:47<veecious>i will open one right now
11:47<@bmartin>ubuntuisloved you can only attach one volume to one Linode at this time
11:48<@bmartin>veecious please provide the number once it is opened so we can take a look
11:48<ubuntuisloved>Then ticket 9832682 I opened is a bug for sure
11:48<ubuntuisloved>It attached to two linodes while cloning the machine
11:48<ubuntuisloved>upon removing from the second linode it removed from both machines
11:48<@bmartin>I will have someone take a look
11:49<veecious>bmartin : 9833748
11:49<veecious>thanks!
11:49<ubuntuisloved>If it's possible to get the 50GB vol back I'd appreciate it.
11:50<@bmartin>ubuntuisloved I will have someone look ASAP. Ticket volume has been a little higher than usual due to Meltdown/Spectre issues
11:50<@bmartin>veecious I believe your Linode is up and running again can you take a look
11:51<ubuntuisloved>Understood no rush on my end
11:51<@bmartin>We appreciate you ubuntuisloved
11:52<veecious>hey bmartin i need to migrate a linode to another account can linode do this for me?
11:52<@bmartin>just pop that info into the ticket you opened and have the account receiving the Linode open up a ticket referencing the original ticket and Oking the transfer
11:52<@bmartin>veecious ^
11:54<veecious>now do i need to spin up a blank linode box on the new account?
11:55<veecious>or will you automatically do that
11:55<@bmartin>You won't need to do that
11:56<veecious>will the dns settings be moved too?
11:57<@bmartin>Request the domain transfer as well and we will do that.
11:59<veecious>can you check if that is all the info you need bmartin
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11:59<@bmartin>perfect just open that up with the accepting account as well
11:59<@bmartin>reference the ticket number
12:00<@bmartin>We will take care of it as soon as we can.
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12:01<veecious>ok done thanks
12:09<Woet>bmartin: can you take care of my life?
12:09<@bmartin>I can only try my best Woet
12:10<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Cant ssh to my node after Meltdown & Spectre maintainence <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15691&p=75604#p75604>
12:11<Woet>thanks
12:16<@bmartin>anything for Woet
12:20<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Storage Full after only install Ubuntu <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15667&p=75556#p75556>
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13:00<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Cant ssh to my node after Meltdown & Spectre maintainence <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15691&p=75605#p75605>
13:10<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Cant ssh to my node after Meltdown & Spectre maintainence <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15691&p=75607#p75607> || General Discussion • Perform reboot automatically when Linode kernel update is available <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15684&p=75606#p75606>
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13:42<jonathan_>Hi there, does anyone know why I am getting 500's and 502s right after the phase 1 maintenance update
13:42<smallclone>jonathan_: you should probably take a look at your error logs
13:42<@bmartin>Without looking specifically we have seen a few people whose servers were configured in a way where firewall rules didn't restart and closed ports, dbs hung or didnt restart, webservices and networking rules as well
13:43<jonathan_>thx
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13:44<@bmartin>jonathan_ if none of that works and you open a ticket please just let me know the number so we can get that looked at for you
13:45<jonathan_>thanks guys
13:45<jonathan_>I am running an update and then a reboot
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13:46<jonathan_>one of the services are running just fine
13:46<jonathan_>but nginx seems to be hung up
13:46<Peng>If it's returning errors, it's working
13:46<millisa>502 suggests it's whatever you have behind nginx. php-fpm, node, someotherapp
13:48<jonathan_>its a piwik installation
13:48<jonathan_>and the rocket chat installation is fine
13:49<jonathan_>running the same server
13:49<jonathan_>was working before the phase 1 the other night
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13:51<iSRAELi>hi all
13:51<millisa>hi
13:51<iSRAELi>we just got this "threat"
13:52<iSRAELi>"DDOS is on your way. Take your tickets down within 24 hours or we will be forced to take action. Hurry."
13:52<iSRAELi>by some random idiot
13:52<iSRAELi>99% that its an empty threat
13:52<grawity>what tickets
13:52<iSRAELi>my website, https://ticket-compare.com
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13:52<iSRAELi>any idea on how to protect my linode?
13:53<millisa>cloudflare in front of a new linode?
13:53<grawity>start by sticking it behind cloudflare or such
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13:54<iSRAELi>oh yes, cloudflare
13:54<DrJ>people who are going to ddos attack you don't generally give you a warning and a chance to prepare
13:54<iSRAELi>ill try it
13:54<iSRAELi>yeah lol
13:54<DrJ>just saying
13:54<iSRAELi>thats why im sure he's just an idiot
13:54<iSRAELi>like
13:54<iSRAELi>if i get my site down, or get a ddos attack, the result is the same
13:54<DrJ>but regardless, good to use protection
13:54<iSRAELi>so why should i bother
13:55<grawity>maybe precisely because people who *would* attack you won't give you a chance to prepare
13:55<iSRAELi>oh no,
13:55<iSRAELi>i meant as a response to his empty threat
13:55<iSRAELi>cloudflare might be the solution i was looking for
13:56<DrJ>don't respond
13:56<iSRAELi>oh of course not, he used some fake email also
13:56<DrJ>responding to idiots like that is one of the worse things you can do
13:56<millisa>if you didn't want to do anything, you could still lower your TTL for your dns records so if you needed to move things after the fact, it could happen relatively quickly
13:56<millisa>you'd want them low anyways for whenver you do the cloudflare switch if you do go that way anyways
13:56<millisa>anyways anyways anyways...
13:57*relidy growls
13:57<Peng>You can move to Cloudflare's DNS without enabling their CDN services.
13:57<Peng>Like, now.
13:59<iSRAELi>and how will that protect me peng?
13:59<iSRAELi>servers is not really my strong side unfortunately
14:00<Peng>iSRAELi: It won't, it will just make it easier to move quickly in the future.
14:00<Peng>!dns6 ticket-compare.com ns
14:00<linbot>Peng: ns2.linode.com., ns4.linode.com., ns3.linode.com., ns1.linode.com., ns5.linode.com.
14:01<iSRAELi>oh
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14:08<veecious>if he does ddos you can block the ip ranges he is sending the requests from
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14:10<DrJ>linode dns is fine, other than it takes 15-30 minutes for records to update
14:10<DrJ>which btw .... Linode... please please PLEASE make record changes instant
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14:12<dwfreed>DrJ: that isn't simple
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14:13<DrJ>and why not?
14:13<DrJ>:)
14:13<grawity>does the system just rebuild textual zonefiles through a cronjob
14:14<dwfreed>grawity: <REDACTED>
14:14<DrJ>pretty sure Digital* updates their instantly
14:15<grawity>oh well
14:16<veecious>all record changes must be done by carrier pidgeon
14:16<grawity>though, you did once mention that it was difficult *when it was first implemented* because many features didn't exist back then
14:16<dwfreed>DrJ: if I were implementing this from scratch, many of the features I would use didn't exist at the time Linode DNS was created
14:17<DrJ>it just becomes a pain when you are trying to set something up real fast or testing something
14:17<DrJ>wait time is usually closer to 30 minutes I find
14:17<dwfreed>slave zones are faster
14:17<smallclone>also, i imagine Linode's focus is on other stuff
14:17<grawity>tbh run your own hidden master and send notifies to Linode
14:17<dwfreed>^
14:17<grawity>or non-hidden master, if you like
14:18<DrJ>yea but then I lose the nice GUI from linode
14:18<DrJ>I just can't win :(
14:18<grawity>but you gain the nice GUI from emacs/vim
14:18<DrJ>:)
14:18<dwfreed>nsupdate for fun and profit
14:19<DrJ>I do really like the GUI linode offers for managing all the records... it's the main reason I switched my DNS to them in the first place
14:20<DrJ>the 15-30 minute delay is not a deal breaker, or I would have switched away years ago... but it does honestly become frustrating at times
14:22<Peng>You could use two zones? Hidden primary for things you expect to need to edit frequently, with zone files and a text editor, and Linode GUI for everything else?
14:22*Peng fount of bad ideas
14:23<DrJ>nah, I don't edit anything frequently
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14:56<waltman>I got an alert email this morning saying "Lassie initiated boot: My Ubuntu 16.10 Profile - Failed Thu, 18 Jan 2018 07:49:27 GMT". I'm running 17.10.
14:57<millisa>but is the profile still named 'My Ubuntu 16.10 Profile'?
14:57<armiller_but_not>That probably means your Linode went through the scheduled reboots
14:57<waltman>hmm, looks like it is! But why did it fail?
14:57<armiller_but_not>Lassie jobs fail during host reboots. It's just a thing that happens
14:57<millisa>it should say in the host job queue. the ones i've had it happen on were because they had already started booting
14:58<waltman>Thanks! I just changed the name to something more informative.
14:58<millisa>'Super Awesome Profile 4. Now with Electrolytes.'
14:59<armiller_but_not>"Living on the edge, canonical style"
14:59<waltman>Also I changed my account's email yesterday to an icloud account, but they're still being send to the old address that goes through my linode.
14:59<waltman>they being the alert emails
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14:59<armiller_but_not>Did you change your user email as well?
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15:00<waltman>I only changed it under Account Information/Contact. Where else do I need to change it?
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15:01<linbot>New news from forum: Email/SMTP Related Forum • Postfix does not start correctly on linode reboot, not always. <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15692&p=75609#p75609>
15:01<armiller_but_not>I think it should be under users & permissions, but each user on your account has an email as well
15:01<armiller_but_not>The account-wide email is only used for billing notifications IIRC
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15:02<waltman>You mean accounts on my linode itself? If so, I'm confused, because these emails are being sent from linode.
15:03<dwfreed>waltman: click my profile at the top
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15:03<dwfreed>the account email just gets billing emails
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15:04<jonathan__>so the log error I am getting is [error] 3555#0: *69 connect() failed (111: Connection refused) while connecting to upstream, client: Anyone have a suggestion for me to start? It has something to do with the update
15:04<waltman>I don't I did. All I see there is a button to toggle notifications on and off.
15:04<waltman>Oh, there it is!
15:05<jonathan__>I have rebooted the server, updated the server and rebooted it also
15:05<millisa>that's coming from nginx or the thing behind nginx?
15:05<jonathan__>nginx log
15:05<millisa>what's the nginx proxypass line set to talk to? (which port)
15:07<jonathan_>will check
15:09<millisa>(or it could be in a fastcgi_pass section; there's probably other ways to set it up, too)
15:10<dwfreed>millisa: wsgi_pass!
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15:10<millisa>that too
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15:11<millisa>whatever manner you use to do the upstream request in nginx - that's the bit we'd be wanting to know
15:14<jonathan_>fastcgi_pass 127.0.0.1:9000;
15:14<millisa>alright then. do you see something listening there? something like 'netstat -tulpn |grep 9000' should show it
15:14<jonathan_>thats all i can find in the .confd
15:16<jonathan_>netstat returns nothing
15:17<millisa>sounds like whatever's supposed to be there isn't running.
15:17<jonathan_>fast cg issue?
15:17<millisa>if it's php-fpm - start it
15:21<jonathan_>where can I find the php-fpm error log? it does not start
15:22<millisa>what's it say when you try to start it?
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15:24<jonathan_>Redirecting to /bin/systemctl restart php-fpm.service [fail]
15:25<millisa>doing a php-fpm -t should do a config test
15:26<jonathan_> NOTICE: configuration file /etc/php-fpm.conf test is successful
15:27<dwfreed>then i would look at systemctl status php-fpm
15:27<dwfreed>!p
15:27<linbot>Please paste longer snippets over at https://bpaste.net/ and not in the channel
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15:30<tmberg>jonathan_: nano /var/log/php*.log
15:31<AlexMax>i wish there was a linux editor like MS-DOS EDIT
15:31<AlexMax>anyway
15:31<AlexMax>got a question
15:32<dwfreed>we might have an answer
15:32<AlexMax>What does it mean "Phase 1 Complete" "Future Maintenance is Pending"
15:32<millisa>click it!
15:33<tmberg>AlexMax: Nano? :)
15:33<millisa>(there's a section above where it links to that talks about the phases, too)
15:33<AlexMax>tmberg: nano is nothing like MS-DOS edit
15:34<AlexMax>MS-DOS edit had a true TUI menu system
15:34<AlexMax>and TUI key binds that were standard for DOS TUI applications like QBASIC and Borland C++
15:35<jonathan_>i seem to have fixed the problem, I just cant tell you how. as of 15 seconds ago I I think nginx reload fixed it "thank you"
15:35<armiller_but_not>Phase 1 complete means I get to see how well my systems handle reboots :)
15:36<tmberg>AlexMax: Mc:s internal editor. ( Midnight Commander )
15:37<tmberg>AlexMax: Oh.
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15:47<waltman>AlexMax: ed is the standard text editor
15:51<Zimsky>sed if you want to be creative
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16:01<Zimsky>violin strings
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16:27<iSRAELi>maybe Nodebalancer is a solution as well?
16:27<iSRAELi>for ddos attacks
16:28<dwfreed>Nodebalancer won't protect you from DDoS attacks
16:28<armiller_but_not>The only thing that changes is that the NodeBalancer blows up instead of your Linode
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16:30<iSRAELi>i see, so it will "explode" instead of my linode
16:30<iSRAELi>no help there then :)
16:30<iSRAELi>cloudflare it is
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17:08<sjkdfjsdifjsidf>I noticed there is a user called reboot when I type last. its not listed anywhere in /etc/passwd /etc/shadow or anywhere else that I could find
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17:09<sjkdfjsdifjsidf>"reboot system boot 4.14.12-x86_64-l Thu Jan 18 16:31 still running"
17:10<Zimsky>sounds normal, jsifskfksijfskdkisjfks
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17:12<dwfreed>sjkdfjsdifjsidf: that's not a user, just a log of the last boot time
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17:15<sjkdfjsdifjsidf>thanks. now what does "still running" mean?
17:15<armiller_but_not>Means, your system is still running because that boot was today
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17:16<armiller_but_not>If you look at older boots they should have an end date
17:16<sjkdfjsdifjsidf>I see. so if the uptime is 30000 days, then "reboot" will be on for 30000 days
17:16<armiller_but_not>Yeah. But the uptime probably won't ever get that high ;)
17:17<dwfreed>90 years is a long time
17:17<dwfreed>82, sorry
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17:17<sjkdfjsdifjsidf>oh, yeah? My grand mother's uptime was 34675 days
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17:18<Zimsky>did she also have a linux subsystem?
17:19<sjkdfjsdifjsidf>no, sorry, her's were vacuum tubes
17:20<sjkdfjsdifjsidf>no, sorry, just coils. tubes weren't invented then
17:20<armiller_but_not>I'm sorry, but we only accepts POSIX-compliant grandmothers around here
17:20<sjkdfjsdifjsidf>dang
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17:46<Mindzzle>Hi there
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17:48<Mindzzle>I forgot my password for login to my account. And when I click forget, I haven’t received the email. How long usually the password being send?
17:49<relidy>Normally I'd expect it pretty quickly, but emails from the webserver seem to have been delayed substantially over the last week or two.
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19:02<tmberg>Nope. You dont. Just deleted you cause of abuse.
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19:58<trippeh>reboot all the things.
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20:17<oldguy>I have an array for example. Here's the list:
20:17<oldguy>files/2001
20:17<oldguy>files/2005
20:17<oldguy>...
20:17<oldguy>files/2008
20:18<oldguy>Here's the regex that looks like it should work in extracting only the year.
20:18<oldguy>s/.+(\d+)$/($1)/
20:18<oldguy>It removes everything execpt the last digit.
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20:20<waltman>the .+ is greedy. Try .+?
20:20<waltman>Or use substr, since years are always 4 digits.
20:21<waltman>Or anchor it to the /, e.g. s/.+\/(\d+)/$1/
20:23<oldguy>ah, it was too greedy. I thought the + would be non greedy
20:23<oldguy>vs *
20:23<waltman>No, * means 0 or more, + means 1 or more.
20:23<waltman>? means non-greedy
20:24<oldguy>now i remember
20:24<oldguy>thanks
20:25<waltman>Glad I could help. Good luck!
20:25<oldguy>no, I meant it worked like a boss
20:25<waltman>If they're files, there are system functions to extract the filename from a path.
20:26<oldguy>what function?
20:26<waltman>hmm...
20:27<waltman>basename() and dirname()
20:28<waltman>That's in C. But most languages have functions that do similar things.
20:28<oldguy>thanks again boss. just regex in general.
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20:33<mastr[x]bennett>Hey. After a reboot of my linode I'm unable to get email.
20:33<mastr[x]bennett>Is it a known issue that port 25 is blocked on some of the new migration hosts?
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20:37<retro|blah>mastr[x]bennett: Did you test that port 25 is actually blocked?
20:37<mastr[x]bennett>tried using nc to connect from my mac
20:38<mastr[x]bennett>didn't work.
20:38<mastr[x]bennett>tried connecting to that port locally. it worked.
20:38<mastr[x]bennett>what other tests are there?
20:39<retro|blah>Hm... Did the SYNs at least show up on the Linode when you tcpdumped on it?
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20:43<marklin>Hi. I have a sales question. Does Linode accept Purchase Orders as payment? Our University is trying to centralize our vendors and want all of them to be paid using POs. Is this possible? We already have your W-9/ in our system. It would just be a matter of setting one up. Thanks! Mark
20:44<marklin>Oh yes. Or group is called the Center for HIV Information at U.C. San Francisco.
20:45<marklin>and my email address is mark.mccormick@ucsf.edu
20:45<mastr[x]bennett>retro|blah no idea how to use that.
20:46<marklin>how to use what?
20:46<mastr[x]bennett>i haven't tcpdumped anything. just tried a telnet from my local machine, the my remote port 25.
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20:47<mastr[x]bennett>it won't connect. Other ports, like 80, 443, 587, my ssh port, and my mosh ports, do allow me to connect.
20:47<mastr[x]bennett>I'd say that's pretty conclusive.
20:47<retro|blah>mastr[x]bennett: tcpdump -nn port 25
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20:49<mastr[x]bennett>retro|blah i do see something from my local ip address showing up with the remote ip address now.
20:50<retro|blah>If it's showing up in tcpdump on your Linode, then it's not being blocked upstream. Start going through your iptables rules to see what is blocking port 25.
20:53<mastr[x]bennett>gentlemen, i have wronged you terribly. retro|blah is right.
20:53<marklin>Great thanks!
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20:54<mastr[x]bennett>I started changing the firewall configs a many months ago and never finished. Looks like I saved those changes, but they never got applied till a few days ago when the server rebooted.
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20:54<retro|blah>D'oh
20:54<mastr[x]bennett>Yerp.
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21:02<retro|blah>Speaking of which. Is port blocking still a thing in Atlanta?
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21:02<retro|blah>Would be very surprised if it still was, but figured I'd ask.
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21:38<linbot>New news from status: Connectivity Issues - NodeBalancer Service <https://status.linode.com/incidents/knj0klmfmzsg>
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21:48<cosdaddy>hello
21:49<Zimsky>0
21:49<cosdaddy>now my website which is setup on your server is broken down.When can you finish update
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21:49<Zimsky>define "broken down"
21:50<cosdaddy>My website can not reboot because of "Phase 1 Complete Future Maintenance is Pending"
21:52<cosdaddy>Maintenance is required for one or more of your Linodes. Your maintenance times will be listed under the "Maintenance Status" column.
21:52<cosdaddy>Which status mean I can recover my website?And how long it will takes?
21:54<cosdaddy>hello???
21:56<cosdaddy>My website can not access normally because of your Meltdown & Spectre;When do can you finish it?Or I need to have ohter servers to supprt my website
21:56<Zimsky>>your
21:56<Zimsky>lol
21:57<cosdaddy>this is very important for your E - commerce website
21:57<Zimsky>if there's maintenance currently being done, it'll be unavailable. There were notifications about the timeframes
21:57<Zimsky>check your emails and open support tickets
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22:19<Woet>be nice Zimsky
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22:21<Zimsky>Woet: why?
22:21<@bhanks>hi Woet
22:21<Woet>hi bhanks my fourth favorite Linode employee
22:21<@bhanks>oh darn who are the others
22:22<Woet>j****, j****** and s*********
22:22<Woet>names hidden for privacy reasons
22:22<Woet>amount of asterisks not in relation to actual amount of characters
22:22<dzho>hunter2
22:22<Zimsky>the last thing you'd know anything about, is character.
22:22<Woet>wow
22:22<Woet>bhanks: do you have enough reasons to ban Zimsky's toxic ass yet?
22:23<@bhanks>play nice kiddies xoxo
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22:23<Zimsky>Woet is like a particularly bad case of leishmaniasis
22:24<Zimsky>oh uh, I wouldn't recommend looking for images of that term
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22:24<Woet>i don't look for images for anything you say
22:24<nate>I think this is just foreplay for zimsky
22:24<nate>:P
22:25<Zimsky>nate: dunno
22:25<Zimsky>could be fiveplay
22:25<Zimsky>almost even sixplay
22:39<Woet>don't exaggerate
22:41<trippeh>should I be worried if a linode is still up 40 minutes into its scheduled maintenance? :)
22:41<Zimsky>definitely
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22:45<@bhanks>trippeh hey there I can take a look at that for you.
22:45<@bhanks>can you shoot me a PM with your host name in it?
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22:48<trippeh>note still up, not still down :p
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23:13<vf>hello
23:13<millisa>hi
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23:14<vf>i want some answers about linode
23:14<millisa>!ask
23:14<linbot>If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read http://alexfornuto.com/how-to-ask-for-help-on-irc/
23:15<vf>does linode support adult hosting
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23:15<millisa>The TOS is here: https://www.linode.com/tos assuming it is legal
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23:16<vf>does linode support all domain extensions or only limited
23:16<millisa>they are linux vps. they support whatever you set them to support.
23:17<vf>ok
23:17<vf>which free panels are avaliable in linode vps
23:18<vf>control panels like direct admin,vest cp
23:18<millisa>Whichever ones you install. There are a few docs for some of them here: https://linode.com/docs/websites/cms/
23:19<Zimsky><Woet> Do you know what linode sells?
23:19<@bhanks>no
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23:20*millisa gasps.
23:20<vf>thanks for help i will contact u soon for further assistance
23:20<trippeh>whew, all my maintenance reboots for tonight are finished.
23:20*trippeh rolls back into bed
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23:21<Zimsky>how do you do that?
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23:23<trippeh>*illustrates how IRL*
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23:41<ipv6newto>I have my linode with dns pointing to it's ipv4 address.
23:41<ipv6newto>how do i setup ipv6 AND ipv4?
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23:41<NoviarRS>hello... btw can i use VCC to buy VPS from linode?
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23:48<@jhaas>ipv6newto: You just need a AAAA record (you can find your IPv6 address in the Remote Access tab) and configure any services to also listen on v6
23:49<ipv6newto>so IPv4 is A and IPv6 is AAAA?
23:49<@jhaas>correct :) https://www.linode.com/docs/networking/dns/dns-records-an-introduction/#a-and-aaaa
23:50<ipv6newto>so for www.example.com, I need to add a A for IPv4 address AND add a record again AAAA?
23:50<@jhaas>NoviarRS: is that "Virtual Credit Card" ? as long as it's a supported company I believe that should be fine - https://linode.com/docs/platform/billing-and-payments/#payment-methods
23:50<Peng>ipv6newto: Yeah
23:53<ipv6newto>what's my ipv6? 2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:feb3:0965 / 64
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23:58<NoviarRS>@jhaas: then, i was get fail when using visa card from my bank. maybe i need ask the bank about this problem :3
23:59<@jhaas>NoviarRS: Yeah I would recommend asking the bank. The only thing I'm aware of that we don't support are 3D Secure cards.
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