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#linode IRC Logs for 2018-01-20

---Logopened Sat Jan 20 00:00:57 2018
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02:25<Eugene>Every day I'm Linodi'
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02:31<Eugene>I'd say my record is pretty good this year.
02:31<Eugene>Missed a few days, and technically more than one in the same UTC day(I usually count local time), but then wtf wareolf you fucking lunatic
02:37<FluffyFoxeh>the absolute madman
02:39<Zimsky>Eugene: don't end up like Woet
02:39<Zimsky>a narcissistic and systematic liar
02:51<Eugene>You're a towel
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02:59<Zimsky>Eugene: you're a snttbg
03:20<linbot>New news from forum: Email/SMTP Related Forum • Postfix does not start correctly on linode reboot, not always. <>
03:21<Peng_>It was IPv6.
03:21<Peng_>Useless OS
03:39<Woet>bhanks: i'm hungry
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03:40<@bhanks>i thought you were Woet
03:40<Woet>dont dad joke me
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03:41<Zimsky>no, that's not something Woet is very familiar with
03:41<Woet>correct, i'm not old enough to become a dad
03:42<Zimsky>actually I meant it the other way
03:43<Woet>i'm too old to be a dad?
03:43<Woet>i don't get it
03:44<Zimsky>no, you wouldn't get it
03:44<Woet>you definitely don't get it
03:55<@bhanks>well im certainly not a dad
03:55<Zimsky>that's a little racist
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04:02<Woet>you know what pisses me off? fish spring rolls
04:02<Woet>why they gotta ruin it by putting fish instead?
04:02<Woet>inside it *
04:03<Zimsky>fish is a good source of food
04:03<Zimsky>!wx UEEE
04:03<linbot>Zimsky: [metar] OBS at UEEE: -41.8F/-41C, visibility 9999 miles, wind 2.24 mph, chill N/A (altimeter: 30.504472439) [UEEE 200830Z 27001MPS CAVOK M41/M46 Q1033 R23L/490150 NOSIG RMK QFE766]
04:04<Woet>don't go all dcraig on me
04:04<Peng_>!wx ksfb
04:04<linbot>Peng_: [metar] OBS at KSFB: 42.8F/06C, visibility 7 miles, wind 0.00 mph, chill N/A (altimeter: 30.26) [KSFB 200853Z AUTO 00000KT 7SM CLR 06/04 A3026 RMK AO2 SLP246 T00560044 55005]
04:04<Woet>fish are only good for slapping people
04:04<Woet>!wx WADD
04:04<linbot>Woet: [metar] OBS at WADD: 80.6F/27C, visibility 8000 miles, wind 9.21 mph, chill 83.99F (altimeter: 29.648102932) [WADD 200830Z 29008KT 8000 SCT015 27/24 Q1004 NOSIG]
04:04<Woet>i beat you all
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04:16<Zimsky>!wx YPAD
04:16<linbot>Zimsky: [metar] OBS at YPAD: 84.2F/29C, visibility 9999 miles, wind 8.06 mph, chill 88.41F (altimeter: 29.82528283) [YPAD 200900Z 22007KT CAVOK 29/17 Q1010 FM0930 14012KT CAVOK FM0900 MOD TURB BLW]
04:16<Zimsky>Woet: you lose
04:16<Woet>Zimsky: doesn't count if you're not there
04:16<Zimsky>and you're in WADD?
04:17<Woet>yes, i am.
04:17<Woet>why is that hard to believe?
04:17<Zimsky>!wx VHHH
04:17<linbot>Zimsky: [metar] OBS at VHHH: 73.4F/23C, visibility 9999 miles, wind 4.60 mph, chill 75.78F (altimeter: 29.943402762) [VHHH 200900Z VRB04KT 9999 FEW040 23/15 Q1014 NOSIG]
04:18<Woet>hope this is enough evidence
04:18<Zimsky>I don't use google
04:18<Woet>your loss
04:18<Zimsky>I blocked their prefixes
04:18<Woet>your loss
04:19<Zimsky>100% loss
04:19<Zimsky>that's the idea
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06:51<linbot>New news from forum: Feature Request/Bug Report • Lassie initiated boot: My CentOS 6.5 Profile - Failed <>
06:52<Woet>"Keep in mind that I am not a programmer, and I can not always be paying a programmer to repair these problems that are not my fault or the app. "
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07:01<linbot>New news from forum: Feature Request/Bug Report • Lassie initiated boot: My CentOS 6.5 Profile - Failed <>
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07:11<linbot>New news from forum: Feature Request/Bug Report • Lassie initiated boot: My CentOS 6.5 Profile - Failed <>
07:14<Zimsky>" I would need to be told step by step or a video to be able to access my server and repair that warning that tells me that I am failing."
07:14<Zimsky>nice catch, Woet
07:14<Zimsky>this is gold
07:14<Woet>thank you Zimsky
07:15<Zimsky>lemme know the outcome
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07:16<Zimsky>more like ∆t amirite
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07:21<linbot>New news from forum: Feature Request/Bug Report • Lassie initiated boot: My CentOS 6.5 Profile - Failed <>
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09:40<csnxs>well that was fun emergency maintenance!
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09:45<Flavio>Hello, anyone can help me? My linode has the status Phase 1 Complete Future Maintenance is Pending, about the "Maintenance for CPU Vulnerabilities: Meltdown & Spectre" and i really need my provider working, what should I do?
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09:47<Flavio>anyone can help me? My linode has the status Phase 1 Complete Future Maintenance is Pending, about the "Maintenance for CPU Vulnerabilities: Meltdown & Spectre" and i really need my provider working, what should I do?
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09:48<Aaron_>I have a question, Can I setup a mail server in linode? I want to know if ports for smtp, imap, pop are open.
09:48<Woet>Aaron_: yes
09:48<Woet>Flavio: what makes you think you need ot do something?
09:49<Aaron_>I used Google Compute Engine, and see other Cloud solutions and all have these port closed.
09:49<Flavio>Woet: becouse I cant connect via ftp, and my website is not working more
09:49<Woet>Flavio: does it ping? does SSH work?
09:49<Aaron_>It's a pain only to receive an email
09:50<Woet>Flavio: does the maintenance show in progress?
09:50<Woet>Aaron_: if it's closed, open a ticket.
09:50<Flavio>I dont know, in Maintenance Status show: Phase 1 Complete Future Maintenance is Pending
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09:51<Woet>Flavio: is your Linode running?
09:51<Woet>Flavio: what is the IP?
09:51<Flavio>Yes it is
09:51<Woet>Flavio: make a screenshot of the panel
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09:52<Flavio> Linode Maintenance Status Status Plan IP Location Options Manage Volumes | Manage Images | Manage StackScripts | Add a Linode linode3120566 Phase 1 Complete Future Maintenance is Pending Running Linode 8192 Fremont, CA, USA Dashboard | Remove
09:53<Woet>Flavio: note: "screenshot"
09:53<Woet>Flavio: and try going to the Linode's page.
09:54<Flavio>I dont know how paste screenshot here
09:54<Woet>Flavio: you use a website like
09:55<Woet>[22:53:18] <Woet> Flavio: and try going to the Linode's page.
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09:55<Woet>and click "phase 1"
09:55<Woet>and what does LISH show?
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09:58<Woet>you should have a console
09:59<Flavio>and then∑
10:00<Woet>check what your vps is up to
10:01<Woet>[22:58:16] <Woet> you should have a console
10:02<Flavio>I am
10:03<Woet>you could see if just rebooting fixes it
10:03<Woet>if not, check your network settings
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10:05<Flavio>I am rebooting again
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10:05<Flavio>If it is any network setting, realy dont know what do
10:05<Flavio>It was working
10:06<Flavio>Before the maintenance
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10:22<linbot>New news from forum: Email/SMTP Related Forum • Postfix does not start correctly on linode reboot, not always. <>
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10:33<Rafaela> Dear, Do you accept prepaid credit card?
10:42<linbot>New news from forum: Email/SMTP Related Forum • Postfix does not start correctly on linode reboot, not always. <>
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10:52<linbot>New news from forum: Email/SMTP Related Forum • Postfix does not start correctly on linode reboot, not always. <>
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13:03<phlux>Emergency maintenance? REFUND! Kappa
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13:42<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • "Future Mainteance is Pending" <>
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14:17<Eugene>Every day I'm Linodin'
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15:22<@bhanks>hi Eugene
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16:41<Zimsky>hi bhanks
16:41<Zimsky>are you sure you're not related to thanks/
16:42<@bhanks>no I am not sure.
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16:47<phlux>he is bob hanks
16:47<Zimsky>glad you clarified
16:48<@bhanks>lol not quite
16:48<Zimsky>I thought it was bumbo hanks
16:49<@bhanks>i dont think that's it.
16:49<phlux>Bicurious Hanks?
16:51<Zimsky>bhanks: do you have doughnuts?
16:51<phlux>is it a rule that linode employees have to be on irc using their first initial + last name?
16:52<Zimsky>that's how everyone works
16:53<Zimsky>mr/ms P. Hlux
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16:53<Zimsky>W. Oet
16:53<phlux>oh true
16:53<phlux>L Inbot
16:53<Zimsky>C. Harlie_root
16:54<Zimsky>Ugene, E.
16:54<Zimsky>Poon, S.
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17:03<@bhanks>Zimsky why. do you want some?
17:04<Zimsky>bhanks: no, I wanted to know whether I could point out I have doughnuts and you maybe don't
17:04<@jalter>Zimsky: wait, DO you have doughnuts?
17:05<Zimsky>come to HK and find out
17:05<Zimsky>it's not far
17:05<@jalter>sure, i'll bring some t-shirts
17:05<@bhanks>ill bring the donuts
17:06<@jalter>do or doughnut, there is no try
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18:03<sudhir_>can i install free ssl by letsencrypt
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18:04<millisa>sure, go for it!
18:05<DrJ>sudhir_, yea, it's a really nice service
18:05<DrJ>I have a lot of domains using lets encrypt
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18:06<sudhir_>how it better from cloudways?
18:07<DrJ>never heard of them
18:07<DrJ>ah, another VPS provider
18:08<DrJ>looks like they are a reseller of digital ocean
18:08<DrJ>I'd probably avoid going with a reseller
18:09<millisa>they resell DO, Linode, (and others)
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18:10<DrJ>for double the cost it appears
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18:11<DrJ>guessing they don't cap so the 1GB linode plan would be $11.70 through them for an average month
18:11<DrJ>whereas $5 straight from linode
18:11<DrJ>yea, I'd avoid that
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18:11<Zimsky>reselling services from linode and similar providers is ridiculous
18:11<sudhir_>the provides additional features too
18:11<Zimsky>and I've probably said it before, but I consider it scamming
18:11<sudhir_>they provides additional features too
18:12<DrJ>like what?
18:12<DrJ>those are free, as you know, so that's void
18:12<DrJ>"unlimited apps" ... that's marketing... already unlimited on linode, just whatever your server can handle
18:12<DrJ>24/7 customer support ... linode gives that too
18:12<Zimsky>Sir Tiffikit
18:13<sudhir_>i didn't host any website linode
18:13<DrJ>so what additional feature do you get?
18:13<DrJ>just curious
18:13<sudhir_>what about dashboard?
18:13<DrJ>because that's all I see
18:13<Zimsky>linode manager
18:13<DrJ>linode has a great dashboard
18:14<Zimsky>if you need crusty things like cpanel, just buy those directly
18:14<Zimsky>but don't, because they're crusty
18:14<DrJ>sudhir_, looking on their features page there is nothing listed you don't get straight from linode
18:14<DrJ>I'd guess their free certs are letsencrypt anyway
18:15<millisa>their blog article from jan 10 claims that their resold stuff was already protected against meltdown and spectre...
18:15<DrJ>so, in a sense they are charging you for a free cert in that more than double the linode cost
18:15<Zimsky>and it's recurring
18:16<DrJ>haha, yea
18:16<Peng_>millisa: I don't have anything against resellers, but what
18:16<Zimsky>they're scammers
18:16<DrJ>sudhir_, just know you are throwing away money if you went with them
18:16<DrJ>pure and simple
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18:16<DrJ>just buy direct from linode or whoever
18:16<Zimsky>though it's probably arguably more of a racket
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18:17<DrJ>there are no "other features" you get with them that you can't get for the base cost of buying direct from linode. end of story.
18:17<DrJ>yes, I looked through that sudhir_
18:17<DrJ>everything there... EVERYTHING. you can get with linode for the base cost (more than half of what cloudway charges)
18:18<DrJ>some of their claims on the features page is a lie too btw
18:18<DrJ>For added protection, Cloudways bans IPs that may hurt your server's performance. Make sure that your IPs stay in the clear by whitelisting them inside the Platform. <--not possible
18:18<Zimsky>sudhir_: do you like to not waste money?
18:18<DrJ>unless they are talking about editing your OS firewall
18:19<DrJ>which... well in that case you can do yourself anyway
18:19<Zimsky>>hurt your server's performance
18:19<DrJ>so yea
18:19<HoopyCat>OTOH, if they do deploy and manage their own special PHP sauce, they've got that going for them
18:19<DrJ>sudhir_, some of the stuff on their features page is a straight up lie
18:19<DrJ>or deceiving at the very least
18:19<DrJ>Worried about speed as you protect your apps with SSL certificates? Well, you don't have to. HTTP/2 ensures fast delivery of content without any compromises on security.
18:19<millisa>i kinda like their mountain mouseover stuff.
18:19<DrJ>appearently their ssl certs are faster than others
18:20<sudhir_>How it easy to install ssl on linode?
18:20<Zimsky>read about how x509 certificates work
18:20<DrJ>simple answer sudhir_: follow that guide and it's damn easy
18:22<sudhir_>linode works with command line
18:22<DrJ>of course
18:23<sudhir_>i am unfamiliar
18:23<sudhir_>with command
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18:23<DrJ>well, honestly, you should become familier regardless of which linux vps provider you go with
18:23<Zimsky>hire someone who is familiar
18:24<DrJ>or that
18:24<Zimsky>or learn
18:24<Peng_>DrJ: No, it says their HTTP/2 is exactly as fast as everyone else's.
18:24<DrJ>or that
18:24<DrJ>ah, did I read it wrong?
18:24<DrJ>so that's a feature?
18:24<DrJ>"We don't slow you down!"
18:24<Zimsky>I use HTTP/3
18:25<Peng_>"Worried about speed as you protect your apps with SSL certificates? Well, you don't have to. HTTP/2 ensures fast delivery of ..."
18:25<Zimsky>if it looks like gopher, and sounds like gopher, it's not gopher.
18:25<Peng_>Putting "certificates" there is an odd word choice, but I read it as just saying they're using HTTP/2, and HTTP/2 is fast.
18:25<millisa>they offer gopher services?
18:25<Peng_>Which is true, but any modern platform supports HTTP/2.
18:25<Zimsky>depends how you define platform
18:26<DrJ>anyway, can't believe anyone would be a sucker enough to go with a company like cloudways
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18:26<Zimsky>they're scamming those to which these things are unbeknownst
18:27<millisa>there was something on their page about doing patches for people.
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18:27<DrJ>At Cloudways, we make security as our top-most priority and that is the reason we keep all our server up-to-date with the latest security patches installed.
18:28<DrJ>my guess they just make sure you are using the latest linode kernel and maybe install a cronjob to just force repository updates every day or something
18:28<Zimsky>if you don't know how providers work, you won't understand that they're just scamming you
18:28<millisa>maybe; I couldn't find details on what that really meant.
18:28<Peng_>I think providing managed services on unmanaged VPS providers can be a useful service. As long as you know what you're getting.
18:29<DrJ>even at their price, they are not proving managed services
18:29<Zimsky>but they aren't
18:29<Zimsky>and they're hiding their racket behind a facade of marketing shit
18:29<DrJ>I agree if a reseller is proving true managed services for say cheaper than linode does... that's perfectly fine if you need it
18:30<DrJ>but that site is clearly not, and their marketing/features page proves it
18:30<DrJ>especially considering some of the stuff there is lies
18:30<Zimsky>they rely on the uninformed coming across their site and being roped in by their marketing, and don't even have to do any hard work for their 'platform'
18:31<Zimsky>they just pawn off to a provider like linode who provides a nice and easy api
18:31<Zimsky>then pocket the markup
18:32<Zimsky>you can't really blame some average punter for not knowing they're being scammed
18:32<DrJ>sad thing is you take sudhir for example... coming here wanting to know why going with linode is better
18:33<DrJ>didn't sound like we convinced him ... that marketing in the features page had him hook, line, and sinker
18:33<DrJ>so I guess he pays double
18:34<Zimsky>I hope he does a bit of reading and comparisons
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18:57<Peng_>Y'all big fans of that company eh
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20:14<Zimsky>if I'm typing stuff into a screen session, am I a screenwriter?
20:14<Peng_>Use byobu
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21:09<Peng_>What the. One of my Linodes crashed?
21:10<Zimsky>you should submit a support ticket
21:10<Peng_>It's running.
21:11<Zimsky>I'll see you at the linode race
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21:53<Peng_>Sorry, I'm going to the refrigerator race that day
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22:00<Zimsky>cryostat races are more fun
22:00<wontboot>my node wont boot
22:01<wontboot>it says: [ *] (2 of 2) A start job is running for…aStor1.device (1min 5s / 1min 30s)
22:01<Peng_>That sounds like it is booting?
22:01<wontboot>then: Give root password for maintenance
22:01<Zimsky>maybe it's shoe-ing
22:01<wontboot>and : (or press Control-D to continue):
22:01<Zimsky>define "it"
22:03<@scrane>I'd recommend booting the LInode into rescue mode and running a filesystem check on it just to make sure everything is good with the.
22:04<wontboot>ok, entered password, and now im in mainenence mode
22:04<Peng_>Rescue mode is something different, but sure
22:04<Peng_>Actually does maintenance mode mount the disk rw?
22:04<wontboot>that's what LISH says, Give root password for maintenance, (or press Control-D to continue):
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22:05<@scrane>I think the best approach is to power the LInode down then follow the guide I linked for how to get into rescue mode.
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22:05<peterpan>Is bittorrent supported by linode?
22:06<@scrane>That'll boot it up into a completely different OS and allow you to run a filesystem check, which I think will be good for making sure there is nothing going weird with the filesystem that is causing this.
22:06<@bhanks>you can torrent but you may not torrent copyrighted materials without permission peterpan
22:07<@bhanks>there's more information in section 3 of our ToS:
22:07<@scrane>peterpan: We don't restrict your traffic or what you can install on the Linode, however the traffic is your responsibility. You should definitely not use the Linode to torrent copyrighted material as @bhanks said.
22:10<wontboot>OK. I was able to edit system. booting up . thanks.
22:11<Zimsky>vs P
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22:12<peterpan>It seems if I don't transfer copyright material to other is ok.
22:12<peterpan>Am I right?
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22:14<Peng_>If you have an appropriate license transferring copyrighted material is fine. ;-)
22:14<Peng_>Distributing materials in violation of the law is against the terms of service. And the law.
22:15<Peng_>If you're into public domain torrents, go wild, I guess.
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22:15<linodeuser343>do i need to close tickets or do they close after n time
22:16<peterpan>Thank you
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22:20<nate>linodeuser343: I think tickets auto-close after 48 hours of no activity
22:20<Zimsky>torrenting is in no way illegal
22:20<linodeuser343>thanks jgreen and scrane...and nate
22:20<@bhanks>linodeuser343 our Support Team will close the ticket out. If your problem is solved you can let us know you're ready for us to close it
22:21<Peng_>Zimsky: Illegal torrenting is illegal
22:22<Zimsky>so is illegal potato growing
22:22<Zimsky>or illegal painting
22:22<Zimsky>that's just redundant
22:22<Peng_>Yes, do not farm potatoes illegally on your Linode
22:23<Woet>scrane: i've received anonymous reports that your parking causes harm to all other employees. before talking to HR, do you have anything to say?
22:23<@scrane>Woet: Yes. Look at your monitor. Now look at your watch. Now look outside. HAH! It's me. I've parked you in. Good luck leaving! Bwahaha
22:24<@bhanks>@scrane <3
22:24<Woet>you're in Indonesia too?!
22:24<Woet>lets hang out
22:24<@scrane>I'm everywhere in a superposition where everyone on earth both simultaneously is and is not parked in by me at any given time.
22:24<Woet>and i don't even own a car
22:24<Woet>that's impressive
22:25<@scrane>It's an art.
22:25<@bhanks>Woet if you were to buy a car you would immediately find that it had been blocked in by @scrane
22:25<Woet>what about other forms of transport?
22:26<@scrane>I accidentally chained someone's bicycle to mine at college.
22:27<@scrane>So it's pretty much any non-pedestrian form of transport.
22:27<Woet>a helicopter?
22:27<linodeuser343>I did the opposite. I locked my chain to a bike rack and not my bike. after class, bike: gone.
22:28<Woet>but was the bike rack still there?
22:28<linodeuser343>rack was safe, I chained and locked it.
22:28<linodeuser343>had a long walk back home. 3 miles.
22:29<@scrane>Did you bring the bike with you and consilation?
22:29<Woet>should have called scrane, he'd have blocked in your bike for you no problem
22:30<linodeuser343>my friend went to buy newspaper for two minutes so he only locked the frame. wheels: gone.
22:31<Woet>did you try not living in new york
22:31<linodeuser343>how did you know it was nyc? yes, it was nyc
22:32<linodeuser343>oh, my ip
22:32<Woet>i hold all the cards
22:32<linodeuser343>no, you saw my ip and hostname above
22:32<Woet>whats an ip?
22:33<linodeuser343>sort of like an ImP
22:34<Woet>is that like a chimp? like Zimsky?
22:35<Woet>that looks a bit pixelated
22:36<linodeuser343>its from 1993.
22:36<linodeuser343>the updated imp looks corny.
22:40<Ikaros>Ahh. That brings back memories. I still have the entire set of games and extra maps, as well as a *LOT* of mods ranging from music changes to sound effect changes and everything in between. Still fun to play even today.
22:41<linodeuser343>they still make doom I/II mods today. I saw one made in 2014. And of course brutal doom mod
22:43<Ikaros>I did a lot of WAD authoring back in the day. Always fun to test my creations out. Sad to say I hardly ever touch a WAD file anymore. But I still find the game fun to return to every so often just to get my classic Doom fix in.
22:44<Ikaros>Like seeing if I can remember how to solve a particular puzzle, etc
22:44<linodeuser343>I played it on a raspberrypi. which wad did you made?
22:45<Ikaros>Or, of course, there's also the classic "blast people in the face with the BFG9000". :D
22:45<linodeuser343>Big F...Gun I mean Bio Force Gun.
22:49<Ikaros>I didn't make many WADs, and all of mine have pretty much disappeared from public view. The main reason I didn't do very I was a perfectionist. I didn't like putting things out unless it was absolutely perfect in every way. Which is to say, that's extremely difficult and exponentially increased the time I spent on each project.
22:50<linodeuser343>you should upload it anyway.
22:50<Ikaros>Then you had the various source ports and whatnot start to appear, and I decided at that point it was too difficult to adapt for each possible one. My designs were intended for the classic "vanilla" version. The "extras" enabled by these various source ports could, depending on what I had designed, just make the map too freakishly easy, too freakishly hard, or even outright break it.
22:51<Ikaros>Whcih of course went against my design philosophy.
22:51<linodeuser343>heheh. look on youtube for crappy mods.
22:51<Ikaros>Eventually I just forgot about them.
22:52<Ikaros>Sadly though I no longer have access to any of my old projects. They were lost in a hard drive crash ages ago.
22:52<Ikaros>Sad, because those are some of my fondest memories working with the classic Doom engine.
22:54<Ikaros>Still. On occasion, I like to take a look at source ports and see just how far I can bend them. It's just much harder to engage in any meaningful project like I did in days past, because now I actually have a life to maintain.
22:55<Ikaros>If there came a point in my busy life that I had time to revisit my old WAD authoring days, I would do it, for sure. :D
22:57<linodeuser343>I'm a backup freak.
22:57<linodeuser343>I keep these usb 2TB drives everywhere. I put a copy at work, to my mother, etc...
22:59<Ikaros>Yeah believe me I did. Doesn't really work though when the backup medium eventually dies too.
23:00<linodeuser343>drives are cheap today
23:01<Ikaros>Well yeah, today they are
23:01<Ikaros>But I'm referring to a time where one didn't really tend to think too much about it, opting to use optical media and/or even floppies.
23:02<Ikaros>I had two places I kept important files then. On CD-Rs and on a hard drive in another tower.
23:02<linodeuser343>I used to backup to cds and dvds. but they were unreliable
23:02<Ikaros>The system name was literally "BACKUPS"
23:02<Ikaros>'cause that's all it was used for
23:02<linodeuser343>APC BackUPS
23:03<Ikaros>And comes one morning where I'm waking up to ominous clicking noises coming from it, and I realize it's shot.
23:04<linodeuser343>it can be recovered for only $4000 USD.
23:04<Ikaros>Hahaha as if I'd have that much cash on hand as a teenager.
23:05<HoopyCat>current life status: my laptop has been away from its backup target for 36 hours and i'm feeling anxiety
23:05<Ikaros>I'm still actually operating an old Dell tower with a Pentium 4 in it. Still functional.
23:05<linodeuser343>years ago i ran into a high school friend. I told him about a clicking hdd. he said he can fix it. he says he can fix it in his living room.
23:06<Ikaros>Even more shocking is the IDE drive inside of that thing is still working without too much trouble.
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23:10<Ikaros>Damn you. Now I want to start messing with classic Doom again, lol
23:10<Ikaros>Too bad I have a double-shift at work tomorrow so I must actually be getting to bed now.
23:14<linodeuser343>make a WAD first
23:14<linodeuser343>then get two hours of sleep
23:15<Ikaros>I can't run off 2 hours of sleep.
23:15<Ikaros>Not on a double shift where I'm potentially on the clock for a total of up to 10-12 hours.
23:16<linodeuser343>what do you do?
23:20<Woet>brain surgery
23:20<Ikaros>Weekend job - I work weekends at a restaurant.
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23:21<Ikaros>Sadly this <bleep> country of ours is slowly screwing me over so...I had to take on a 2nd job.
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23:21<Woet>US or UK?
23:21<linodeuser343>or NK
23:22<Ikaros>US, lol
23:22<linodeuser343>we're becoming NK
23:22<Ikaros>Except we don't kill people for looking at the leader the wrong way. >.>
23:23<linodeuser343>I'm biting my tounge on that one
23:24<Ikaros>In any case. I'm already behind on sleep as it is. The sooner I can get to bed now, the better off I'll be for Sunday's shift.
23:24<linodeuser343>ok. hey, sleep at work.
23:24<millisa>only 4 more weeks until day of the shining star!
23:24<linodeuser343>take a nap under table 15
23:25<Ikaros>I suppose one perk of working at a restaurant...meal discounts...comes in handy.
23:25<linodeuser343>five-finger meals?
23:25<Zimsky><Peng_> Zimsky: Illegal torrenting is illegal
23:25<Zimsky>amazing revelations
23:25<Ikaros>I didn't say free. I said discounts.
23:25<Woet>being Zimsky is illegal in most countries
23:26<linodeuser343>I used to work at burger king. I got free burgers.
23:26<Ikaros>I'm out for the night.
23:26<Zimsky>only I can be Zimsky
23:26<Ikaros>Good night folks
23:26<Zimsky>it's not night time
23:26<linodeuser343>good night
23:26<Ikaros>10:26 PM says it is
23:26<linodeuser343>have a good nap at work.
23:26<Zimsky>it's not though
23:26<linodeuser343>11:26 here
23:26<Ikaros>Ah. Hour ahead of me I see.
23:27<linodeuser343>are you sleep-typing?
23:27<linodeuser343>addicted to the keyboard?
23:27<Ikaros>I'm making sure everything's taken care of that I need to take care of before I go in tomorrow morning, so that I don't have to worry about it when I get up in the morning.
23:28<Zimsky>hire a monkey
23:28<Zimsky>or Woet
23:28<Zimsky>though a monkey might be better
23:28<Zimsky>less stench
23:28<linodeuser343>wow. you typed all that with half your brain tied behind your back
23:29<Zimsky>I'm not sure your understanding of anatomy is accurate
23:30<linodeuser343>shhhhh. I think he fell asleep.
23:34<Ikaros>Yup. Everything's good and caught up, got my servers up-to-date, etc. Now I can sleep.
23:34<linodeuser343>what you're still awake?
23:35<Zimsky>this is the worst routine
23:35<linodeuser343>you have a 1.5 shift tomorrow
23:35<Ikaros>Your face. Night.
23:36<linodeuser343>"your face"?
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