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#linode IRC Logs for 2018-01-22

---Logopened Mon Jan 22 00:00:59 2018
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01:50<Yashwanth>Hello there.
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01:51<Yashwanth>I'm trying to sign up. But I don't receive a confirmation email.
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01:51<grawity>wonder why
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02:16<Zimsky>wonder has propelled our species over the millennia
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02:19<cosdaddy>our website was attacking by Dos
02:19<cosdaddy>Linodes close my server.Now our IT team is working on this problem
02:20<cosdaddy>we need you to open our Linode serve,please.
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02:20<grawity>sounds like something you'd need to open a support ticket for
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02:22<Zimsky>>our website was attacking
02:23<grawity>not everyone is as good at englishing as yourself
02:23<grawity>why do they keep leaving though ._.
02:28<Zimsky>of course not everyone is as good at englishing as I am
02:29<Zimsky>doesn't mean I can't simultaneously acknowledge that and be facetious in my interpretation
02:30<Zimsky>especially for potential humorous effect
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02:30<Zimsky>they probably leave because they don't IRC and think it's an immediately-answered thing where you talk directly with linode
02:30<Zimsky>and instead think*
02:31<Zimsky>speak of the jesus, hello cosdaddy
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02:32<cosdaddy>I need your work team to open our server
02:32<Zimsky>sounds like you should probably submit a support ticket to linode
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02:47<root419>hello everyone
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02:56<cosdaddy2>Is there anybody to deal with my ticket 9859245?
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02:57<react>let this be a lesson to all on SPOF
02:57<Ikaros> He asks, and the server closes his connection.
02:58<Ikaros>That's quite rude of that server.
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02:59<swiftkey>should it be safe to update centos kernels now?
02:59<Zimsky>prolly dwfreed sitting under his bed using tcpkill on people
03:00<Zimsky>giggling with a bottle of absinthe
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03:01<linode-user>Once the attack has subsided, the null route will be removed
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03:03<Ikaros>Wasn't that...
03:04<Ikaros>Yeah that was the same IP, lulz
03:04<Ikaros>I know I shouldn't be laughing but that is a bit funny. Poor guy.
03:04<Zimsky>Ikaros: ddos attacks are extremely serious. this is no laughing matter.
03:04<Ikaros>Nono, I mean the fact he keeps getting hit with that 'server closed connection' thing
03:05<Zimsky>connection closure is extremely serious.
03:16<iSRAELi>if anyone is familiar by any chance with BING ADS API for a little help i will be greatful!!
03:22<iSRAELi>i don't think i've ever seen a documantation that is so unhelpful
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04:44<swiftkey>cd Nominatim-3.1.0
04:45<@sjacobs>ooh. osm. fun. :)
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04:59<swiftkey>hi sjacobs: mind if I ask help for the osm installation ?
05:00<@sjacobs>not too sure how much help i'd be. i just contribute map updates.
05:00<Zimsky>#osm is on this net
05:01<Zimsky>it's nice to see some channels aren't on the dirty network
05:09<iSRAELi>osm is odd
05:09<Zimsky>you're odd
05:10<iSRAELi>well, they are showing borders for countries
05:10<iSRAELi>that are not their real borders
05:10<iSRAELi>or do not exist, for this instance
05:10<Zimsky>like what
05:11<iSRAELi>an imaginery country called "palestine"
05:11<@sjacobs>i don't draw the country borders. i just make sure the mailbox pickup times are correct in my neighborhood.
05:11<@sjacobs>the important stuff.
05:11<Zimsky>ha, it's 2018. no one actually cares about israel/palestine
05:12<Zimsky>pretty sure they're both made up countries
05:12<iSRAELi>its more of a military map lol
05:12<iSRAELi>its marking all of the military bases
05:12<iSRAELi>for the entire middle east
05:13<Zimsky>unlikely since they missed a few syrian bases
05:14<iSRAELi>marked red = military base
05:14<iSRAELi>highly detailed military base i must add
05:14<iSRAELi>its showing the roads inside lol
05:15<iSRAELi>this is mostly correct
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05:20<Zimsky>how do you say "cool beans, man" in hebrew?
05:21<Zimsky>or any other phrase expressing apathetic acknowledgement of something
05:23<iSRAELi>trying to figure out what cool beans is exactly
05:24<Zimsky>they're beans that are cool
05:27<iSRAELi>no idea
05:28<iSRAELi>its like saying
05:28<iSRAELi>"all ok"?
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05:28<iSRAELi>this is what translating it gives me
05:28<iSRAELi>"how are you doing?"
05:28<iSRAELi>"cool beans"
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05:48<Rajesh_rai>Is it possible to Host Ruby on Rails based web application i.e., SpreeCommerce on linode Ubuntu Server?
05:49<Rajesh_rai>Is there any guide available?
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06:02<Zimsky>sjacobs: in my head;
06:03<@sjacobs>let me put you on speaker phone.
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06:04<Zimsky>Computers. That's not really my area.
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06:11<linbot>New news from forum: Feature Request/Bug Report • هتل دریا کیش <>
06:15<@sjacobs>هرزنامه ها
06:21<linbot>New news from forum: Feature Request/Bug Report • Better docker support <>
06:22<@sjacobs>> Old news from the forum:
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07:10<@bmartin>How can we help you ieww
07:11<ieww>My account was deleted, can you tell me why?
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07:14<ieww>I already send mail,but not respond
07:14<@bmartin>We will absolutely respond as soon as possible
07:15<ieww>Please quickly Thanks
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07:48<espen>Anyone seeing packetloss on amx-ix? Getting packet loss at - two different providers/routes.
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07:52<cryptoindo>how to reslove maintenaince phase?
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07:53<@bmartin>Our first round of maintenance is complete
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10:24<Dereje>Is it possible to pay 2 years at start of the service? I was using digitalocean for long time. I want to pay from the grant money
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10:46<nrh1703>what's the turnaround time on BAU tickets at the moment (i.e. not related to meltdown/spectre)? I requested a /64 for a new linode a few days back and haven't had a response, previously I got new pools within a couple of hours.
10:47<@bmartin>Hey nrh1703 can you provide your ticket number and we can get that locked down for you?
10:48<nrh1703>thanks @bmartin, 9855911
10:50<@bmartin>Someone will be taking care of that shortly nrh1703
10:50<ponas>IRC lurkers are VIPs
10:51<DanielNM>It's a good day to be Linodin'
10:51<@bmartin>It's always a good day to be Linodin'
10:51<DanielNM>!point bmartin
10:52<linbot>DanielNM: Point given to bmartin. (8)
10:58<linbot>New news from blog: 2018 Winter Events <>
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11:32<linbot>New news from forum: Email/SMTP Related Forum • Cron <vmail@bwc> /usr/local/bin/ <>
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11:58<@gjjansen>!point afalcone
11:58<linbot>gjjansen: Point given to afalcone. (2)
11:58<@afalcone>!point gjjansen
11:58<linbot>afalcone: Point given to gjjansen. (1)
11:59<@bmartin>!unpoint afalcone
11:59<linbot>bmartin: Point taken from afalcone! (1)
11:59<Woet>wow, not only gjjansen is suddenly alive but afalcone too
11:59<Woet>whats going on
12:00<Woet>Zimsky: defcon 2
12:00<@bmartin>An Awakening in the Linode Force
12:04<@afalcone>!unpoint bmartin
12:04<linbot>afalcone: Point taken from bmartin! (7)
12:04*bmartin slaps afalcone around a bit with a large trout
12:04<@afalcone>well I never
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12:19<Eugene>Every day I'm Linodin'
12:36<@jalter>!point Eugene
12:36<linbot>jalter: Point given to eugene. (41)
12:36<@bmartin>!point jalter
12:36<linbot>bmartin: Point given to jalter. (5)
12:37<Woet>how about you give me some fucking points
12:37<@jalter>whoa whoa whoa
12:37<Woet>i'm working my ass off here helping all the clueless people you keep baiting in your unmanaged vpses
12:38<smallclone>lol when were you helpful
12:40<Eugene>!lick Woet
12:40<linbot>Eugene: Point given to woet. (3)
12:40<Woet>smallclone: wtf?
12:40<Woet>i've asked dozens of people if they knew what Linode was selling
12:40<Woet>thanks Eugene you're the best
12:41<@gjjansen>That seems like a really unconventional way to give out points, linbot
12:41<@bmartin>!unlick gjjansen
12:41<@bmartin>does not work
12:41<Woet>how do you unlick something?
12:42<@bmartin>I was hoping to find out
12:44*synfinatic slowly steps back before someone licks him
12:44<Woet>!lick synfinatic
12:44<linbot>Woet: Point given to synfinatic. (2)
12:44<synfinatic>that's kinda disgusting actually
12:46<Woet>i have no stds
12:46<Woet>i think
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13:06<Eugene>Woet / bmartin - its "!towel"
13:06<Eugene>Becuase you need to dry off
13:06<@afalcone>!towel bmartin
13:06<linbot>afalcone: Point taken from bmartin! (6)
13:07<@bmartin>my points!
13:08<@afalcone>ლ(ಠ_ಠ ლ)
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13:28<@jalter>I never knew that
13:28<@jalter>!point Eugene
13:28<linbot>jalter: Point given to eugene. (42) (Biggest fan: jalter, total: 14)
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14:03<Eugene>It isn't a story that the Jedi would have told you
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14:33<arby>With the latest "now, DON'T install the Meltdown/Spectre patches" firefdrill from Intel, (1) should we (yet) expect another round of Linode host updates? (2) Do anything/something/nothing on our Linode guests at this point?
14:33<arby>Or, simply unknown at this point?
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14:37<dzho>it's a fair question
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14:37<arby>I've turned on my IOT coin-flipper ...
14:37<Ikaros>Heh. All I know is, Linus went on a freaking rampage at that one guy involved with the IBRS patches.
14:38<arby>Ikaros: that was mild ...
14:38<Ikaros>He was ticked off, seriously.
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14:38<Ikaros>I was watching the mailing list. I've never seen him THAT angry before.
14:38<arby>lasted a couple of hours. everybody's making nice ... and code.
14:38<arby>heh, really? NVIDIA much?
14:38<Ikaros>As for me, if I had to choose which v2 mitigation to use, I'd go for retpoline hands-down.
14:38<Bdragon>IOT is slang for "shoddy consumer device used to participate in distributed denial of service attacks"
14:39<Ikaros>Because IBRS is BS
14:39<@jackley>arby: yup, there will be additional maintenance at some point:
14:40<arby>jackley: Thanks. Curious, before or AFTER linode "sues their a$$" ? ;-)
14:40<Ikaros>Speaking of which, I actually did compile a test kernel with retpoline support enabled.
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14:40<@jackley>arby: until then, you don't really need to do anything.
14:40<@jackley>arby: heh
14:40<Ikaros>I'm currently running it on a test server to check its stability.
14:41<dzho>as I said elsewhere "deep down, in places you don't like to talk about at parties, you *want* Linus Torvalds bitching about those patches, you *need* Linus Torvalds bitching about those patches"
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14:41<Ikaros>Honestly it's not going to do much good unless the compiler suite itself knows/understands retpoline...but that's the first step at least. I'm not even going to go NEAR the IBRS crap.
14:43<Bdragon>BTW word to the wise -- if you're running a beaglebone black, remember to compile a fresh u-boot because the aux control register IBE manipulation etc needs to be done from privileged mode.
14:43<Ikaros>And given how Linus is reacting to IBRS...that's gonna probably be farther off than we'd like.
14:43<dzho>I have to say, this whole "oh dang linode is going to reboot things on short notice" situation has gotten me to kick up my pathetic devops skills a notch or two
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17:14<josephcocoa>hello everyone. anyone have any ideas why some people could check out on my site, and why others seem to be getting a 403 forbidden when they try to go through the checkout process?
17:15<josephcocoa>linode doens't put anything between the webserver and the client right?
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17:16<Peng_>What's your site?
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17:16<josephcocoa>it works on my test systems
17:16<josephcocoa>but we have reports of it just spinning during checkout
17:16<josephcocoa>like when people go to click "proceed to payment"
17:16<josephcocoa>it's very puzzling
17:22<josephcocoa>it's a pretty stock setup
17:22<josephcocoa>ah well, we'll get it sorted i'm sure
17:24<kenyon>did you check the log for those 403s
17:24<josephcocoa>that's the odd thing
17:24<josephcocoa>nothing in error logs
17:24<josephcocoa>which makes me think it's woocommerce doing it's thing
17:24<josephcocoa>believing that it should be returning that
17:24<josephcocoa>apache isn't returning it for sure
17:26<josephcocoa>i just find it so strange that it is only some people
17:26<josephcocoa>i thought i had some time mismatch thing going on
17:26<josephcocoa>that was maybe causing nonces to expire
17:27<josephcocoa>but that's certainly not it
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20:24<Guest2471>is IPV6 forwarding still disabled on the linode network infrastructure?
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20:33<Zimsky>it was disabled?
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20:34<ericxiaoa>hi,does the server still maintenance ?
20:34<Zimsky>maybe. check the linode manager
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20:36<ericxiaoa>Phase 1 Complete , do I must update my vps? I still use the 4.40
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20:38<millisa>that 'phase 1 complete' should have a link to the page about the vulnerabilities
20:38<millisa>There's a section 'Is there anything I need to do?' that is probably relevant.
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20:42<Peng_>ericxiaoa: You should update your kernel.
20:42<ericxiaoa>uh,it says"recommend",have not say"must'...So ,I don't know what to do
20:42<Peng_>ericxiaoa: Regardless of the status of the Linode hosts, you should still update your kernel.
20:43<ericxiaoa>OK,thank you! I try it
20:43<Zimsky>I think I might try submitting an april 1 rfc this year
20:44<millisa>An Easter RFC Miracle!
20:44<Zimsky>I have a few ideas. Any suggestions though?
20:45<Zimsky>"Extensions for the IRC protocol to account for the solidity of chats"
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20:45<millisa>"Proposed Standard for Floppy Drive Music Protocols"
20:45<Guest2471>Zimsky according to the linode wiki dated nov 02 2017, yes
20:46<Zimsky>we have a guest
20:46<Zimsky>millisa: that's genuinely a cool idea
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20:46<millisa>you see the recent video?
20:46<Zimsky>should standardise that
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20:47<Zimsky>recent? no
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20:47<Zimsky>toto :D
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20:48<millisa>~1m3s = awesome
20:50<Zimsky>millisa: I still think was the best
20:50<millisa>I like them all.
20:51<millisa>needs more dot matrix
20:51<Zimsky>I'd build one if I could be bothered, and had those resources
20:51<Zimsky>actually, I know a chap who hordes old hardware like this, he might be willing to use some
20:53<millisa>bring a few episodes of hoarders with you to play on your tablet. it rarely takes more than an episode before i'm picking out hardware to get rid of. I credit that show with getting rid of my last pentium pro box...
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20:54<Zimsky>millisa: some work I used to do involved going to those hoarder houses
20:54<Zimsky>somethings you never unsee
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20:55<millisa>i think the smells would be what do me in
20:55<ntox>floppotron.. uhhmazzzing
20:55<Zimsky>you generally wear respirators
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21:20<Eugene>I'm a digital hoarder. I can't find any other explanation for my extremely large collection of linux ISOs.
21:20<Eugene>zifnab - people still download that torrent. I don't know why.
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21:32<Zimsky>an interesting point that is being raised is how quickly a lot of information dies now, compared to past decades
21:33<Zimsky>we keep a lot of data, but a lot of it isn't kept
21:33<Zimsky>things that may be noteworthy to future historians
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21:38<linbot>New news from kernels: Latest 32 bit (4.14.14-x86-linode113) <> || Latest 64 bit (4.14.14-x86_64-linode94) <> || 4.14.14-x86_64-linode94 <> || 4.14.14-x86-linode113 <> || 4.14.14-x86-linode112 <
21:47<tmberg>Hmpf. Just rebooted. :(
21:51<Peng_>And I'm using the previous 4.14.14 kernel.
21:54<linbot>New news from forum: /dev/random • BitCoin Discussion <>
21:58<Peng_>There was 4.14.14-x86-linode112 and 4.14.14-x86_64-linode93, which weren't made "Latest" (afaik)
21:59<@mcintosh>that is correct
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22:01<@mcintosh>the new version of 4.14.14 disables some kernel options enabled when we switched from LTS -> stable for the purposes of providing meltdown patched kernels as quickly as possible
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22:02<tmberg>4.14.12-x86_64-linode92 #1 SMP Fri Jan 5 15:34:44 UTC 2018 x86_64
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22:04<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Still prompting for password after setting up SSH keys <>
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22:24<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Still prompting for password after setting up SSH keys SOLVED <>
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23:00<Eugene>I want moe 4s in my kernel
23:01<Eugene>Can you adjust the build times to have 4s in them
23:02<@jhaas>that's the true goal behind the meltdown patch
23:03<Ikaros>Hm. Certainly hope that we aren't gonna do IBRS for Spectre V2 until that "complete piece of garbage" as Linus puts it, is actually...y' longer a piece of garbage. >.>
23:04<Eugene>I've been switching to FreeBSD
23:09<Ikaros>Oh what, linbot is posting GIFs now?
23:18<@bhanks>who could say
23:23<linbot>Yo mommas so pedantic, she opened a trouble ticket to request a correction to a previous yo momma joke (36:0/0) [mormu]
23:24<@mcintosh>!downvote 36
23:24<linbot>mcintosh: Downvote added.
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