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00:30<Jacky>anybody here?
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00:37<Zimsky>pedantry is a good thing
00:38<Zimsky>the most pedantic people write the best code and accompanying docs
00:39<Woet>what about you? you're pedantic and everything you write is terrible
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00:40<Zimsky>everything I write?
00:41<Zimsky>like what?
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00:43<Woet>everything
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00:44<Zimsky>you haven't seen everything I write though
00:52<Woet>thats what you think
00:57<linbot>New news from forum: Web Servers and Web App Development • software testing training in chennai <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15725&p=75685#p75685> || Web Servers and Web App Development • CSS and other data not pulling through on Drupal 8 after migration <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15682&p=75684#p75684>
00:58<Zimsky>Woet: but you haven't
00:59<Zimsky>we are at an impasse
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01:07<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Perform reboot automatically when Linode kernel update is available <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15684&p=75606#p75606> || Linux Networking • SRV record not showing up in DNS DIG <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15689&p=75601#p75601>
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02:44<arsh>hi
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02:44<millisa>hi
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03:06<Zimsky>"The Adventures of Hobbyboy and HoopyCat"
03:07<Zimsky>sounds like a children's tv programme
03:07<dcraig>I had a hobbyboy once
03:07<Zimsky>did it come with a HoopyCat?
03:07<dcraig>not initially
03:08<Zimsky>did you go to the police?
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08:08<linbot>New news from forum: Performance and Tuning • Default CentOS kernel is 3.10. Is this meltdown and spectre ready? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15701&p=75688#p75688>
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08:22<mktools>Hello
08:22<mktools>How can I change the reverse dns of an ip?
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08:23<Peng_>Dashboard -> Remote Access -> Reverse DNS
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08:25<mktools>just remove the old address and add the correct address?
08:26<mktools>tks :)
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08:58<linbot>New news from forum: Linux Networking • [IPV6] Qualys SSL Labs says: "Unable to connect to the server" <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15727&p=75689#p75689>
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09:18<linbot>New news from forum: Linux Networking • [IPV6] Qualys SSL Labs says: "Unable to connect to the server" <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15727&p=75691#p75691> || Performance and Tuning • Default CentOS kernel is 3.10. Is this meltdown and spectre ready? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15701&p=75690#p75690>
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09:39<linbot>New news from forum: Linux Networking • [IPV6] Qualys SSL Labs says: "Unable to connect to the server" <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15727&p=75692#p75692>
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09:59<linbot>New news from forum: Performance and Tuning • Default CentOS kernel is 3.10. Is this meltdown and spectre ready? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15701&p=75693#p75693>
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10:26<eagle>meh... https://www.hetzner.com/cloud?country=us
10:26<eagle>is linode trying to keep up with that?
10:27<Zimsky>linode needs to keep up with something?
10:28<eagle>I guess, or they would lose customers
10:28<Zimsky>pretty sure that won't happen
10:28<eagle>I am pretty sure that it has happened
10:28<Woet>not everyone stares blindly at price
10:28<Zimsky>I'm pretty sure linode could tell their customers to sodomise themselves with retractable batons
10:28<Woet>else every provider in the world would have the same price
10:28<Zimsky>and they'd keep 80% of their client base
10:29<Zimsky>sjacobs: pls confirm
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10:29<Woet>Zimsky: could they shoot someone on fifth avenue though
10:29<Zimsky>ohhhh what was that reference?
10:29<Zimsky>I heard that one recently
10:29<Woet>who do you think
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10:30<Woet>https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/01/23/trump_i_could_stand_in_the_middle_of_fifth_avenue_and_shoot_somebody_and_i_wouldnt_lose_any_voters.html
10:30<Zimsky>yes that
10:30<Zimsky>that's probably true too
10:30<Zimsky>trump voters are notoriously retarded
10:30<Zimsky>and would probably keep blindly following him
10:31<Zimsky>ikr who'da thunk?
10:33<Zimsky>maybe he already did do that and the corrupt fake news media refuses to report on it because barack clinton ordered a pizza strike on some water door?
10:34<Zimsky>Woet: linode probably wouldn't lose many clients
10:34<Woet>probably
10:35<Zimsky>as long as they're cheap and work well, they can go on as many killing sprees as they like
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10:35<Zimsky>Woet: I wonder which employee is the token republican
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10:36<Woet>just look at the pics
10:36<Woet>its easy to spot them
10:36<Zimsky>they have long noses don't they?
10:36<Zimsky>and a weird parting in the hair
10:37<Woet>now you're making me uncomfortable calling them out
10:37<Zimsky>i got money on jalter
10:37<Woet>you have money?
10:38<Zimsky>nope
10:38<Woet>figured
10:38<Zimsky>>figure
10:38<Zimsky>>money
10:38<Zimsky>noice.tiff
10:39<Woet>;)
10:45<@jalter>Zimsky: I hope it wasn't a lot of money
10:46<Woet>any amount is a lot for Zimsky
10:46<Zimsky>jalter: good thing it wasn't my money
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10:57<@mcintosh>jaltrump
11:01<@afalcone>mcintosh: lol
11:02<armiller_but_not>!point mcintosh
11:02<linbot>armiller_but_not: Point given to mcintosh. (22)
11:03<Zimsky>actually it's jleal
11:04<Zimsky>or jfred or scrane
11:04<Zimsky>jleal has the smallest Levenshtein distance (of 4) from 'donald'
11:04<Zimsky>the other two have the smallest distance (of 5) from 'dtrump'
11:05<Zimsky>and pretty much all the 5-letter j's have an LD of 5
11:10<@jfred>noooooo
11:11<armiller_but_not>jfred: This is what you get for having a name
11:11<@jalter>If you ask me, Zimsky sounds vaguely Russian...
11:12<@jalter>https://media.giphy.com/media/3o6Mbj2w67HnPQKgcE/giphy.gif
11:13<@bmartin>#FakeNews jalter
11:14<@afalcone>!point bmartin
11:14<linbot>afalcone: Point given to bmartin. (7)
11:14<armiller_but_not>We have the best names in #linode. They are tremendous.
11:14<@afalcone>and everyone knows it
11:17<@jalter>I would like to wish everyone, including the haters and losers, a very happy National Pie Day!
11:19<Woet>thanks jalter mate
11:19<linbot>New news from forum: Linux Networking • [IPV6] Qualys SSL Labs says: "Unable to connect to the server" <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15727&p=75694#p75694>
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11:29<linbot>New news from forum: Linux Networking • [IPV6] Qualys SSL Labs says: "Unable to connect to the server" <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15727&p=75695#p75695>
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11:35<Zimsky>only trumplestiltskin takes a normal, innocent day of celebration, and turns it into a jibe
11:36<Zimsky>jalter: ...я не русский
11:36<Zimsky>вы русский?
11:37<Zimsky>моя собака ходит сама
11:37<Zimsky>👍 😎 👍
11:38<Woet>god can someone ban her yet
11:38<Zimsky>god doesn't exist honey
11:39<Zimsky>eugh, I feel icky just appending that word
11:44<Zimsky>Woet: just steal someone's oper creds. I'm sure mcintosh has *really good* security policies
11:44<Woet>Zimsky: i'm pressing enter twice but nothing is happening
11:44<@mcintosh>password is "urmom"
11:45*Woet checks mcintosh's coldfusion version
11:45<Woet>nah thats fine too now
11:45<Zimsky>I laughed for an illuminative 10 seconds
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11:49<linbot>New news from forum: Linux Networking • [IPV6] Qualys SSL Labs says: "Unable to connect to the server" <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15727&p=75698#p75698> || Linux Networking • Unable to connect ftp <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15728&p=75697#p75697>
11:49<Woet>whats a "ftp"
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11:50<Woet>ChanServ said 1 337
11:50<Woet>lololololo xD
11:50<Zimsky>👍 😎 👍
11:51<Woet>the duck🦆 walked🚶🏽‍♂️up⬆️ to✌🏻 the lemonade🍋 stand⛱ and he said🗣 to the man🧔🏻 running🏃🏽‍♀️the stand⛱ hey🙋🏻‍♂️ bom🗯bom🗯 bom 🗯got any🤲🏼 grapes?🍇🚱
11:51<@bmartin>(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ THIS IS RIDICULOUS
11:52<Woet>🅱onald Gaygan 🏳️‍🌈 Pounds 🍆Dickhail Gorgeacock's 🇷🇺 Revisionist 🔴 GLUTES 👉💦🍑😩 "Tear 💥 down⬇️ this ➡️ wall 🍑 DADDY 😳💦"🚨 EMERGENCY ❗ ALERT 🚨Player 3 has joined the game 🎮. Oh Shit 😱 It's Margaret Thotcher😈💯. Ronald Gaygan Finna Be Smashin 💥 That Neoliberal 💲 Booty 😩👌 Call it a Special 💦 Relationship 🇺🇸 🇬🇧.
11:52<Zimsky>emoji has propelled shitposting into the 22nd century
11:52<Zimsky>good job, unicode consortium.
11:52<Zimsky>(◞‸◟)
11:53<Woet>https://s.woet.me/JVGhdqegVM.png
11:53<Woet>but which fire exit do i pick
11:53<@bmartin>2
11:53<Woet>thanks
11:53<@bmartin>the first one is way too trendy
11:54<Woet>now there has to be a fire
11:54<Woet>can someone bring in my mix tapes
11:54<@bmartin>are you the firestarter?
11:54<Woet>Yo 💯 fam im new!!!!!!! holds up mixtape my name is Daquan 💯 but u can call me t3h N1GgA oF d00m!!!!!!!! 💯bruh…as u can see im a real savage🔥🔥🔥🔥😂😂😂. thats why i came here, 2 meet 💯% no chill ppl like me… 💯 im 16 years old (i got first hand street experience tho😂😂!!) i like 2 Netflix n chill😉😂😂😂 w/ my sidepiece (cuz you know this ain't my main one, smdh😂😂😂😂) bcuz da pussy is straight fire
11:54<Woet>💥🔥🔥🔥🔥💥!!!! shes savage🔥🔥 2 of course but i want 2 meet 💯more 💯 savage ppl =) like they say the more lit🔥🔥 the squad the more lit 🔥🔥the pussy!!!! 💯💯 lol…neways i hope 2 make a big squad here so give me🔥🔥 lots of retweets🔥🔥🔥🔥!!!! 💯💯WHYTHISNIGGADRAKELOOKLIKEASAUDIWARLORD😂😂😂😂😂?????!!!!!!!!!! <--- me bein savage again _^ hehe…stay real fam!!! !😂😂😂
11:54<Woet> !🔥🔥 🔥🔥🔥🔥
11:55<Zimsky>nice one
11:55<Zimsky>>da pussy is straight fire
11:55<Zimsky>hot same irl
11:56<Zimsky>Woet: stay real fam 👩‍👩‍👧‍👧
11:57<Woet>👌
11:57<Zimsky>why is this all so funny
11:57<Zimsky>linode is best chan
11:58<Zimsky>how do I give points to everyone
11:58<Zimsky>!point everyone
11:58<linbot>Zimsky: Point given to everyone. (1)
11:58<Zimsky>!point gjjansen
11:58<linbot>Zimsky: Point given to gjjansen. (2)
11:58<Zimsky>!point jalter
11:58<linbot>Zimsky: Point given to jalter. (6)
11:58<Woet>If my Bitcoin💲💰 and my girl😍👰 both drowning😱🌊 and I could only save one😤😬 Catch me HODL'ing at my girls funeral😔👻🌹 Cuz its To The Moon or Nothing, kiddo 💰💯🔥😎📈💲
11:59<Zimsky>!towel Eugene
11:59<linbot>Zimsky: Point taken from eugene! (41)
11:59<Zimsky>😱
11:59<Woet>!lick Eugene
11:59<linbot>Woet: Point given to eugene. (42) (Biggest fan: jalter, total: 14)
11:59<Woet>!towel Zimsky
11:59<linbot>Woet: Point taken from zimsky! (4)
11:59<Zimsky>!point 💯
11:59<Woet>i got your back buddy
11:59<linbot>Zimsky: Point given to 💯. (1)
11:59<Woet>nice
11:59<Woet>lets get it to 100
11:59<Zimsky>wow
12:00<Zimsky>first bot I've seen in a while that doesn't shit itself with multibyte chars
12:00<@bmartin>º╲˚\╭ᴖ_ᴖ╮/˚╱º YAY!
12:00<Woet>bmartin: pls stop abusing my irc client this way
12:00<Zimsky>Woet, bmartin, what are your sauces
12:00<@bmartin>:(
12:00<Zimsky>sources*
12:00<@bmartin>m( _ _ )m GOMEN KUDASAI.
12:00<Woet>ಠ_ಠ
12:01<Woet>FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUU-
12:01<Woet><o/
12:01<Woet>のヮの
12:01<Woet>damn what are the good ones bmartin
12:01<Woet>(☞゚ヮ゚)☞
12:01<Woet>(ノゝ∀・)~キラッ☆
12:02<@bmartin>(☞゚ヮ゚)☞
12:03<Woet>☜(゚ヮ゚☜)
12:03<Woet>!lick bmartin
12:03<linbot>Woet: Point given to bmartin. (8)
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12:05<Woet>bmartin: if I'm ever in Philadelphia, can you give me a tour of the office?
12:05<@bmartin>Absolutelyt
12:05<@bmartin>just don't lick anything
12:05<Woet>let me know when it's done
12:05<Woet>will it still be Q1?
12:05<@bmartin>That's what I hear
12:05<Woet>nice
12:06<@bmartin>I'm not in the braintrust though so don't quote me on it.
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12:06<Woet>are you going to put servers in the bank fault
12:07<@bmartin>I'm still hoping it becomes my office
12:07<@bmartin>then I remember I'm not a person who has an office
12:07<@bmartin>perhaps it could become Linode Jail
12:07<Woet>can we put Zimsky in it
12:07<@bmartin>Seems like a good test
12:09<@bmartin>:trollface:
12:10<Woet>that was a late troll fare
12:10<Woet>face too
12:10<Woet>to be fair, unless you have a face like Zimsky, it takes time to turn it into a troll
12:13<Schroeder>*sigh*
12:13<Schroeder>it's be really nice to get invoiced on my Bricklink orders, just so I know the seller actually saw them
12:14<Woet>its just lego mate
12:14<Woet>buy nanoblocks instead
12:14<Woet>(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ THIS IS RIDICULOUS
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12:34<Eugene>Every day I' Linodin'
12:37<@jalter>!point Eugene
12:37<linbot>jalter: Point given to eugene. (43) (Biggest fan: jalter, total: 15)
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13:06<synfinatic>huh, #linode has taken quite the turn
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13:09*Woet turns synfinatic around
13:09<Woet>now you've taken quite the turn too
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13:10*afalcone turns woet around
13:10<@afalcone>whole new perspective
13:10*bmartin turns the table around
13:10<@bmartin>it appears the tables have turned
13:10<@afalcone>whoa
13:10<Woet>ᕋ꒪⍹꒡ᕈ
13:10<Woet>you like my back side?
13:10<@afalcone>!lick bmartin
13:10<Woet>~_^
13:10<linbot>afalcone: Point given to bmartin. (9)
13:11<@afalcone>bad timing on that lick
13:16<dzho>only the best timing, really
13:19<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Perform reboot automatically when Linode kernel update is available <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15684&p=75606#p75606>
13:19<Eugene>That's not sanitary
13:19<Woet>!lick Eugene
13:19<linbot>Woet: Point given to eugene. (44) (Biggest fan: jalter, total: 15)
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13:26<Jason_>I'm interested in a Linode 60GB plan. Anyone know what kind of CPU this runs off of?
13:26<iSRAELi>intel
13:27<Jason_>Intel what
13:27<iSRAELi>intel i-something / xeon
13:27<Jason_>like an E5?
13:27<iSRAELi>just kidding, hold on theres management in here
13:27<iSRAELi>i have no idea
13:28<grawity>all my cheapo linodes run on E5-2680 v3
13:28<Jason_>lol
13:28<relidy>grawity++
13:28<grawity>though some hosts have E5-2680 v2, apparently
13:29<relidy>I have at least some machines on v2
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13:29<grawity>I don't think there's like an official list of CPUs, but that's the one you're most likely to get anyway...
13:29<Jason_>I'm just curious because my current dedicated hosting is on E3-1230 and it's complete trash
13:29<Jason_>so hoping to make a good switch
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13:29<Woet>what makes you think the model of the CPU is relevant?
13:29<Woet>especially in a shared environment
13:30<grawity>it acts as a good lookup key for full specs
13:30<Jason_>Is linode VPS?
13:30<Woet>yes.
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13:31<Jason_>ah I see
13:37<millisa>e5-2680v2's e5-2680v3's and some e5-2697's
13:37<relidy>Is there a way to swap IPv6 addresses between machines? The IP Swap feature seems to only include IPv4.
13:37<@jalter>relidy: not for the /128 address, but if you have a /64 or larger pool, we can change where it points to
13:38<Jason_>thanks millisa
13:38<relidy>jalter: Thanks. Any chance that's something that Linode would be willing to do in a support ticket?
13:39<@jalter>relidy: absolutely!
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13:39<grawity>hmm, if the /112 pools are freely moveable, could one in theory get a /64 routed to one of their /112 addresses and as a result freely move that too
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13:54<HoopyCat>grawity: that's how i set it up in the past
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14:01<Eugene>Yup, that's how I have always set it up
14:09<linbot>New news from forum: Current Betas • Linode Block Storage (Fremont beta) <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15333&p=75702#p75702>
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14:16<goose>I'm having issues getting my static networking configured, hopefully someone can help
14:16<smallclone>goose: ok, what distribution?
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14:16<smallclone>generally the easiest way to do it is to just use linode's network helper thing
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14:19<goose>I've followed the guide -- https://www.linode.com/docs/networking/linux-static-ip-configuration/#debian -- Which has produced me an /etc/network/interfaces of -- https://pastebin.com/raw/f2xp8HSw
14:20<goose>But when I restart networking, my interfaces seem to go down, and I cannot connect at all (Have to use lish)
14:20<goose>smallclone: Debian 9
14:20<goose>Sorry for the delay, baby started crying
14:28<smallclone>goose: you got them to add a /64 pool for you, right?
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14:28<goose>Yes
14:28<react>cost you anything?
14:29<react>(curiousity)
14:29<smallclone>no it doesn't
14:29<react>how nice :)
14:29<linbot>New news from forum: Linux Networking • [IPV6] Qualys SSL Labs says: "Unable to connect to the server" <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15727&p=75703#p75703>
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14:30<smallclone>are you trying to configure your statically signed ipv6 address in here as well? something looks off
14:30<smallclone>tbh i don't know a ton about ipv6 but i vaguely remember these guides being different / there being some debian 8 caveats around setting up ipv6 addresses from a pool
14:30<goose>I guess so?
14:31<goose>Really I'm just trying to assign 10 extra v6 addresses from my pool for znc's for friends
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14:32<smallclone>i'd try getting rid of the static ip altogether, and just specifying your ipv6 gateway in the first of your /64 addresses
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14:32<smallclone>that's what the guide is doing anyway, and again i'm a bit hazy on the details but i feel like that's how it's supposed to work
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14:33<grawity>but the Linode gateway isn't in the assigned /64
14:33<smallclone>oh right it uses the static ip gateway
14:34<smallclone>alright i've sufficiently forgotten how this stuff works
14:35<smallclone>my sincere recommendation would be to listen to someone else
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14:36<grawity>the gateway only needs to be specified once – no point in repeating it for every v6 address
14:36<smallclone>right you have to do it the first time
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14:37<smallclone>i'm not saying do it every time you add an IP from the pool
14:37<grawity>really, if networking.service doesn't restart, what you should have already done is
14:38<grawity>1) check the system log (e.g. journalctl -b) for actual error messages of the failure
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14:38<grawity>2) try a manual `ifup --verbose eth0` for even more error messages
14:38<grawity>very often, the system itself tells you what's wrong! as long as you know where to look
14:39<goose>does my interfaces look correct, based on the guide?
14:39<grawity>it looks correct in general
14:39<grawity>though, it's missing one of "auto eth0" / "allow-hotplug eth0"
14:39<goose>Ok. Then let me try again and see what error messages I can produce.
14:40<grawity>without one of those settings, ifupdown just won't bother trying to bring up eth0 on boot
14:41<millisa>cloning a couple small linodes (1gb/12gb) from newark to fremont. Transfer rate is abysmal - getting 250KB/s on both.
14:43<smallclone>that is pretty bad, even considering the distance
14:43<millisa>my dallas to atlanta ones went multi-gB/s
14:43<smallclone>they're not still doing meltdown / spectre migrations atm are they?
14:44<millisa>all the hosts are off and all claims to be at phase1
14:44<millisa>the 1gb node is estimate 24+ hours to finish. the 12gb node is estimating a little under 2 weeks...
14:44<smallclone>lol
14:44<smallclone>yeah something is wrong there
14:45<smallclone>try opening a ticket
14:45<smallclone>and then, make lots of noise in here at the same time
14:45<@bmartin>yes please do and pass the number over if you can
14:45<smallclone>ah there we go
14:45<@bmartin>and I'll make sure it gets looked at
14:45<millisa>i hate creating official support load. it's not a critcial thing (I could even wait 24 hours for it; but probably not a week.) will get a ticket open.
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14:46<@bmartin>We appreciate you millisa
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14:46<smallclone>even so, looking at the details on your account lets them narrow down specifically where the problem is
14:48<grawity>I can imagine it resulting in fairly critical discoveries
14:48<grawity>like some traffic accidentally getting routed through a wet string, which nobody noticed because nobody filed a ticket
14:49<grawity>or a host in the middle of catching fire
14:49<grawity>well, minus the exaggerations
14:51<millisa>It's 9869062. Look at it whenever there's a lull; again, no rush.
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14:52<smallclone>ah what a customer, this guy
14:52<@bmartin>You're a champion
14:52<bong>hello
14:52<smallclone>hello
14:52<smallclone>feel free to ask your question
14:52<millisa>there. now i have my excuse. "Sorry, can't do any other work. Concentrating on this migration thing." *stretches. Sips tea.*
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14:53<bong>hello i am new here
14:53<smallclone>welcome
14:53<@bmartin>Welcome bong
14:54<bong>i have question about hosting
14:54<smallclone>you can ask that question
14:54<bong>is it possible to Install NodeJS and Redis in any of the plans?
14:55<smallclone>yes. a linode is just a linux server. you can install anything on it that you would install on linux in general.
14:55<millisa>This getting started guide https://linode.com/docs/getting-started/ gives you an idea of what its like to work on one of these
14:56<bong>im using shared hosting from other company and they said it is not possible install
14:56<smallclone>right this isn't like that. you can connect via ssh and install whatever you want.
14:57<millisa>you manage it all
14:57<smallclone>however it does require more hands-on configuration and technical knowledge
14:57<smallclone>you do everything
14:57<bong>they said upgrade to VPS
14:57<millisa>that is what a linode is
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14:58<bong>ok thanks for the info
15:02<bong>there is no cPanel?
15:03<smallclone>nope
15:03<smallclone>!cpanel
15:03<linbot>Install cPanel on CentOS: https://www.linode.com/docs/websites/cms/cpanel-on-centos Linode does not sell cPanel licenses, but it's provided free to Linode Managed customers: https://www.linode.com/managed Or try a free panel like Webmin: https://www.linode.com/docs/websites/cms/webmin-control-panel Or just use the command line: https://www.linode.com/docs/platform/linode-beginners-guide/
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15:09<Zimsky>cpanel is worse than polio
15:09<Zimsky>I hope someone from cpanel hears that
15:09<millisa>oh i dunno, the multi-php version handling works alright.
15:10<millisa>it's got a simple drop down if you want to try php54/55/56/70/71 etc. makes it easier for a dev to try their site out under the newer versions with an easy rollback
15:13<Zimsky>cpanel and discord are generally best treated with daily infusions of oxaliplatin for a year
15:14<smallclone>discord > slack all day
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15:16<Zimsky>um
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15:16<Zimsky>more like * > (discord | slack)
15:16<bong>any one here hosting phpfox?
15:16<yuicat>when u hate on things w/o rationale :^)
15:16<smallclone>big hipchat fan then huh?
15:17<yuicat>screw oranges amirite
15:17<Zimsky>yuicat: I have rationale, I've complained many times in very specific detail and depth
15:18<Zimsky>I can come back later for a personal lecture if you like?
15:18<Zimsky>just busy with other stuff right now
15:18<smallclone>i don't really blame anyone for hating them, but discord is basically a less memory hungry slack with a nicer UI imo
15:18<yuicat>your reasoning doesn't interest me
15:18<Zimsky>they're both terrible
15:18<armiller_but_not>Zimsky: Write a blog post, then you won't have to repeat yourself and you can snarkily link to it
15:18<Zimsky>armiller_but_not: don't tell me what to do
15:19<Zimsky>you write a blog post.
15:19<armiller_but_not>I would but i'm not that mad about slack :P
15:19<Zimsky>I'm not mad
15:19<yuicat>it's one thing to be mad, it's another to be mad for the sake of being mad
15:19<yuicat>it's cute ;p
15:19<smallclone>i hate irc and wish there was a good thing to replace it
15:19<linbot>New news from forum: Linux Networking • [IPV6] Qualys SSL Labs says: "Unable to connect to the server" <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15727&p=75704#p75704>
15:19<Zimsky>I just think they're both shit and people should be made aware of this
15:20<Zimsky>slack is basically irc you pay for
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15:20<armiller_but_not>Okay you're right. That's more evangelical than mad
15:21<Zimsky>you appear to be focused more on my rationale than the point I'm trying to make
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15:21<yuicat>hard to have a point without arguments ol' chap
15:21<armiller_but_not>You haven't made a point though? You kind of just said slack sucks and we should know why you think that.
15:22<Zimsky>s/should/want to/
15:22<armiller_but_not>My blog reccomendation is half serious and half joking. If you want to have an elaborate "known" position on something it is quite helpful
15:22<Zimsky>like I said, yuicat, I can pencil in a private lecture later today
15:23<Zimsky>otherwise you should perhaps find the source of that rustling coming from your jimmies
15:23<yuicat>if you can't encapsulate an argument in a sentence, rather spew edgy assertions, I'm not interested
15:23<Zimsky>then why are you still talking to me?
15:24<yuicat>because you're an interesting specimen
15:24<armiller_but_not>I remember when we talked about linux... good times
15:24<Zimsky>without the ad hominem
15:24<Zimsky>armiller_but_not: yuicat brought this up
15:24<yuicat>au contraire, I brought up your lack of reasoning
15:24<yuicat>which remain
15:25<yuicat>s/remain/remains/
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15:25<Zimsky>indeed, my reasoning remains
15:26<Zimsky>I can certainly agree I'm an interesting specimen
15:26<Zimsky>Woet knows this
15:27<Zimsky>as a fatter of mact, where is he?
15:27<yuicat>your ability to assert without any rationale is top, trump-esque
15:27<yuicat>quite interesting indeed
15:28<Zimsky>I'm sure it is
15:29*yuicat departs for another cup of tea
15:29<Zimsky>Woet: I think we found it
15:29<warewolf>man, if it's not spectre/markdown, it's slack.
15:29<warewolf>WHY SO MUCH HATE
15:29<Zimsky>because some things deserve hate
15:30<Zimsky>other things deserve love
15:30<Zimsky>yuicat: what kind of tea?
15:30<warewolf>I just don't want my chat client in a web browser. That's not too much to ask, is it?
15:30<armiller_but_not>warewolf: Ok then. We put it in an electron app :-)
15:30<dzho>the trolling is strong
15:31<Zimsky>dzho: yes it is. Please leave and it will stop
15:31<yuicat>Zimsky: I've been delving into genmaicha as of late, toasted rice adds nice undertones to the green
15:31<smallclone>i've never noticed the issues with discord that i have with other electron apps i use (atom, slack) but i'm not sure why that is
15:31<dzho>Zimsky: trolling *and* lies
15:32<Zimsky>dzho: yes, please leave and it will stop
15:32<dzho>QED
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15:32<Zimsky>dzho: and do you know what that means without googling?
15:32<warewolf>hey guys, there's this awesome command in your irc clients. It's called /ignore
15:32<armiller_but_not>How will dzho ever recover from this savage assault
15:32<dzho>armiller_but_not: ikr
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15:33<Zimsky>yuicat: genmaicha is nice
15:33<dzho>slack would be easier to ignore had it not aimed squarely at supplanting IRC with proprietary lock in
15:33<warewolf>Zimsky: ooh, another genmai fan
15:34<warewolf>Zimsky: I mix mine with some jasmine green tea
15:34<Zimsky>I don't drink tea often enough
15:34<Zimsky>sounds lovely
15:34<dzho>clearly
15:34<Zimsky>dzho: I was serious in my question
15:35<Zimsky>a lot of people say/use Q.E.D., knowing what it means, but don't remember the full latin
15:35<dzho>Zimsky: maybe you could find some way of indicating when you're serious
15:35<Zimsky>like e.g. actually means exempli gratia
15:35<dzho>well, when you're trying to be
15:36<dzho>yeah, I wouldn't have been able to give the gloss for eg, nor for ie.
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15:36<dzho>but I do use those all the time too
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15:36<Zimsky>I knew someone who thought it was from "eggsample"
15:36<dzho>interestingly enough that vide supra and vide infra are not commonly abbreviated
15:37<Zimsky>i.e. is id est iirc
15:37<Zimsky><dzho> Zimsky: maybe you could find some way of indicating when you're serious
15:37<Zimsky>that's half the fun
15:37<smallclone>man i keep thinking this conversation can't get more pedantic
15:37<dzho>also funny how so much latin and french have been retained in legal terminology, but have acquired weird pronunciations or specialized meanings
15:37<Zimsky>working out whether I'm serious
15:38<dzho>voir dire being a good one
15:38<Zimsky>v.s. being "see above"?
15:38<dzho>yeah
15:38<Zimsky>v.i. see below?
15:38<dzho>as I understand it
15:38<Zimsky>good to know my latin isn't too shabby
15:38<dzho>vague short-range references
15:39<Zimsky>actually, I was thinking about exactly that recently when poring over some legal texts
15:39<linbot>New news from forum: Linux Networking • [IPV6] Qualys SSL Labs says: "Unable to connect to the server" <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15727&p=75705#p75705>
15:40<dzho>seeking surcease of sorrow for the lost Lenore?
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15:40<Zimsky>quite significant deviations from original latin to legal latin
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15:41<Zimsky>good one.
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15:54<dcohenb>Hi, anyone knows if linode has any program for hosting open source tools for free with some kind of attribution?
15:54<millisa>I missed this a few days ago. Figured someone else may have (or may not get it and find it of interest): https://ibin.co/3pE6UAnSehub.png
15:54<warewolf>dcohenb: phone or e-mail them
15:54<millisa>They do a few https://www.linode.com/sponsorships
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15:55<dcohenb>thanks, awesome! looks like they do, i will send them an email
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16:45<FearTheMoon>If glish says "Server is already active for display 0" what could I do?
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17:05<Iguil>hmmm, never seen that exact message, but I guess it could indicate an already active Lish session. Did you have a previous session that crashed/lost connection or something similar?
17:05<millisa>FearTheMoon: are you trying to open 2 lish sessions to the same system simultaneously?
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17:09<FearTheMoon>Ehm nope, I am trying to open the first one
17:10<FearTheMoon>I mean, I try to open up so I can use the VPS in a window
17:11<FearTheMoon>But When i try to do that http://prntscr.com/i4nczn happens
17:12<millisa>and you are using glish? or lish?
17:12<FearTheMoon>Glish - with g
17:12<FearTheMoon>or I am not using it
17:12<FearTheMoon>I am trying to use it
17:13<FearTheMoon>http://prntscr.com/i4ndqw happens when I try to open the glish right away from the dashboard
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17:16<@afalcone>FearTheMoon: Looking at your ticket now
17:16<FearTheMoon>My saviour
17:17<@afalcone>++
17:19<@afalcone>I know it may seem simple but can you try clearing cookies and cache and try again?
17:19<@afalcone>FearTheMoon: ?
17:20<FearTheMoon>absolutely
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17:22<FearTheMoon>You did mean my own browser cache and cookies?
17:22<FearTheMoon>With that done it remains the same
17:22<@afalcone>yeah
17:22<@afalcone>:(
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17:24<@afalcone>let me see what else we can do here
17:24<FearTheMoon>yeah
17:24<FearTheMoon>Well I am so novice you dont even know
17:24<FearTheMoon>novice is even too much
17:24<@afalcone>lol that's ok, we all start somewhere
17:25<@scrane>FearTheMoon Have you attempted to open glish in a separate browser? And just to confirm, are you using an operating system that has a GUI installed on it?
17:25<FearTheMoon>okayokay, one step at a time
17:25<FearTheMoon>first thing there
17:27<FearTheMoon>you said other broswer
17:27<FearTheMoon>http://prntscr.com/i4nklo
17:27<FearTheMoon>that looks green
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17:27<FearTheMoon>the command I did in lish "startxfce4" shouldnt that do something?
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17:28<FearTheMoon>and the other thing you said, man I dont know.. I got win10?
17:28<@afalcone>I think he was referring to the OS on your Linode
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17:28<FearTheMoon>well fair enough xD
17:28<FearTheMoon>debian 9
17:29<FearTheMoon>from my experience of googling it should?
17:29<armiller_but_not>Deb9 should be fine in glish
17:29<armiller_but_not>Even if you aren't running X or a GUI, you should still get a TTY
17:29<@scrane>So what browser do you usually use, and what browser did you just try?
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17:29<FearTheMoon>I tried edge
17:29<FearTheMoon>and usually use chrome
17:30<@scrane>:-/ Try opening it in Firefox.
17:30<FearTheMoon>Ehm
17:30<FearTheMoon>Ill try
17:30<armiller_but_not>What data center are you in?
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17:31<FearTheMoon>OWAy
17:31<FearTheMoon>NOWAY
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17:31<FearTheMoon>it works with firefox
17:31<@afalcone>awesome
17:31<armiller_but_not>Ayyy living that #quantum life now
17:31<@afalcone>!lick armiller_but_not
17:31<linbot>afalcone: Point given to armiller_but_not. (1)
17:32<@scrane>So armiller_but_not did you lose your nick? Haha
17:32<FearTheMoon>Sooo
17:32<FearTheMoon>one thing
17:33<FearTheMoon>the double mouse on the glish
17:33<@afalcone>:/
17:33<FearTheMoon>any simple?
17:35<@scrane>That is a fairly common issue for virtual machines connected remotely. It's not necessarily unique to Glish, and it has to do with how the guest machine tracks the mouse movement. But in general for the earlier problem, I have seen some cases where depending on how the stars align, Glish will work for some users on Chrome, then eventually not, but it works on Firefox, then eventually not, etc. I think it partially has to do with extensions or
17:35<@scrane> recent browser updates.
17:36<@scrane>I've never had luck with Edge, and in general I don't recommend the browser, but that's in large part due to me having a bias leftover from the days of Internet Explorer.
17:36<FearTheMoon>Alright
17:36<FearTheMoon>Well I was so surprised with it not working cus I tried it all
17:36<FearTheMoon>Read all the guides and still no luck
17:37<FearTheMoon>Well you guys are fantastic, thank you so much!
17:37<FearTheMoon>Ill be in touch, trust me on that
17:37<@scrane>I'm glad to hear! You have a great day!
17:37<FearTheMoon>You too! :D
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17:41<@scrane>armiller_but_not So are you the reall armiller, or an imposter?
17:44<@afalcone>hmmmm
17:44<@afalcone>it says but not?
17:45<@afalcone>prob an imposter
17:47<@scrane>Must be.
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17:49<@jalter>just thought of photoshopping him on armadillo
17:49<@jalter>armillerdillo
17:49<@jalter>🤔
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17:49<@scrane>It must be done
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19:40<swiftkey>Hello is it possible to balance tcp connections using node balancers ?
19:42<swiftkey>nevermind found it!
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20:05<millisa>!point scrane
20:05<linbot>millisa: Point given to scrane. (6)
20:05<@scrane>Woohoo!
20:06<millisa>(thanks for fixing up the transfer issue with the clone)
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20:06<@scrane>Ah dang, that was you?
20:06<millisa>one of me, yep
20:07<@scrane>Haha glad I could help! That was certainly an interesting one.
20:07<relidy>Someone wire up a 33.6 modem in line?
20:07<millisa>Is it worth prying to find out what was causing it?
20:09<@scrane>Unfortunately probably not :-/ I don't have much information II can pass along on that one.
20:09<millisa>no worries.
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22:01<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • China plastic metal machining prototype <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15730&p=75706#p75706>
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22:11<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Thrust Ball Bearings <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15731&p=75707#p75707>
22:21<linbot>New news from forum: Current Betas • New cloud.linode.com control panel <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15015&p=75610#p75610>
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23:58<Woet>Zimsky: do you need some China plastic metal machining prototype
23:58<Woet>or perhaps some Thrust Ball Bearings
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