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00:25<Rainbow>@FluffyFoxeh, i=linode; while :; do pkg install "$i"; yum install $i; apt-get install $i; pacman -S $i; cd /usr/ports/sysutils/$i && make install clean; done; break (because unnecessary loops ftw)
00:26<FluffyFoxeh>lol
00:26<FluffyFoxeh>nice :p
00:26<Rainbow>:D
00:26<Rainbow>hows it hangin?
00:43<Woet>dont play games
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00:49<@bhanks>hey kids
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00:51<Eugene>HEY HEY HEY
00:53<@bhanks>oh gr8
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01:19<SunOfGod>Hello! I have question about VPS.
01:21<@sjacobs>what is the question?
01:21<Woet>what is a VPS?
01:21<dcraig>what is a woet?
01:21<Woet>i only use buzzwords, do you have a question about your cloud?
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01:23<@bhanks>look what you did Woet
01:23<Woet>good
01:23<Woet>i'm just here as a DO shill
01:23<Woet>but if you match their commission i'll become a Linode shill instead
01:23<@bhanks>no thanks!!! xoxo
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01:24<Woet>!lick bhanks
01:24<linbot>Woet: Point given to bhanks. (2)
01:24<@bhanks>GOODBYE
01:29<@jhaas>o/
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04:07<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • China Dental X Ray manufacturers <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15740&p=75718#p75718> || General Discussion • Diamond PDC Bits For Geothermal Drilling <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15739&p=75717#p75717> || General Discussion • China Blind Pipe Flange factory <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15738&p=75716#p75716> || General Discussion • Brake Booster For Suzuki m
04:07<iSRAELi>what
04:07<iSRAELi>lol
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04:17<linbot>New news from forum: Performance and Tuning • Hugepages - why is it missing? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15677&p=75641#p75641> || General Discussion • Maintenance scheduled for Meltdown security vulnerability <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15697&p=75632#p75632> || Linux Networking • Do I need to change the IP on a restored backup? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15698&p=75631#p75631> || General Discuss
04:18<@sjacobs>linbot, you're bringing up old new again!
04:21<Woet>probably because no one on the linode team cares about preventing the forum spam
04:22<@sjacobs>Woet: some care.
04:22*sjacobs cares.
04:22<Woet>then do something about it
04:27<@sjacobs>i have one change ready to go. haven't really had a break from tickets recently.
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04:30<stefan__>Now that blockstorage is no longer free, does anyone know if or when it may be available in other DCs?
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04:34<stefan__>Another question, across DC private LAN, is that something in the planning? Does anyone have any good way to setup a cross DC connection via VPN or alternative?
04:35<@sjacobs>stefan__: i don't know an exact date yet. i know a blog post is coming out soon that will have more details.
04:39<@sjacobs>the private LAN from dc <-> dc has been asked about in the past, but i don't have an answer there, either.
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05:01<stefan__>sjacobs: thanks
05:03<Peng>Even once inter-data center traffic is free, it would still be wise to encrypt it, with a VPN or TLS or whatever.
05:04<Woet>or rot13
05:05<@sjacobs>i think tripling up on rot13 is worth the extra overhead.
05:07<hawk>Woet: I encrypt everythign with rot26
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05:17<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • 100 gratis dating site in nederland <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15743&p=75721#p75721>
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05:27<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Linode can not be ssh <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15675&p=75613#p75613>
05:47<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Aol Mail Sign In Mobile <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15744&p=75722#p75722>
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05:57<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Linode can not be ssh <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15675&p=75613#p75613>
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06:42<Rqavi>Hi
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06:42<Rqavi>This is Ravi
06:43<Rqavi>I have a website and it is hosted in linode
06:43<Woet>Hi Ravi.
06:43<iSRAELi>lol
06:43<Rqavi>My problem is, my website is not supporting for all format videos
06:43<iSRAELi>feels like AA meeting
06:44<Woet>what do you mean Ravi?
06:44<@sjacobs>are you using formats that are supported by the browser you are using?
06:44<Rqavi>I asked my support team and they replied, my server is not supporting all format videos to post
06:44<Woet>you will have to more specific Ravi.
06:45<Rqavi>I need to install some supporting packages in sever side
06:45<Rqavi>Mp4
06:45<@sjacobs>that would be for your developers to configure. a linode just runs linux.
06:45<Woet>go ahead.
06:45<@sjacobs>so any other examples you find for your distribution should work.
06:46<Rqavi>he asked me to install some cron job
06:46<Woet>go ahead.
06:46<Rqavi>I don't know how to install it
06:46<Rqavi>can any one guide me
06:47<Woet>do you know the basics of managing a Linux VPS?
06:47<@sjacobs>we still don't really know what you need. mp4 and cron jobs aren't really related.
06:48<Rqavi>hmm
06:49<Woet>[19:47:19] <Woet> do you know the basics of managing a Linux VPS?
06:49<grawity>basically a script that looks for video files in an "uploads" folder, and ffmpegs them to mp4 format
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06:51<Woet>cya
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07:39<enso>hi
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07:40<@jhaas>bye
07:40<@bmartin>d[ ๏ _ ◉ ]b
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07:42<Woet>(☞゚ヮ゚)☞
07:51<@bmartin>(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
07:52<Woet>◉_◉
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07:56<@jhaas>(ノ°Д°)ノ︵ uᴉʇɹɐɯq
07:57<@bmartin>(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ THIS IS RIDICULOUS
07:57<Woet>(╯°O°)╯FUS RO DAH!
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07:59<DubbaThony>Hello! I have an question about linode and p2p traffic. Im considering linode to deploy my testing enviroment to ethereum network, the part that Im unsure, is parity software. Can anybody shine some light if they mind p2p traffic?
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08:07<@jhaas>DubbaThony: We're fine with cryptocurrency as long as you're not mining (i.e. you shouldn't be using all of your CPU all the time)
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08:08*Woet mines for jhaas's heart
08:08<@jhaas><3
08:08*jhaas dies
08:09<@bmartin>☜(⌒▽⌒)☞
08:16<cheapie>That reminds me, I wonder how much CPU time I've been using...
08:16*cheapie looks
08:16<cheapie>~1% on average. I think mine's good :P
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08:26<@jhaas>Woet can I have my heart back?
08:26<@jhaas>The web isn't very ghost-accessible and I'm having a rough time of it
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08:28<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • panneaux solaires pour piscine+prix <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15745&p=75723#p75723>
08:38<DubbaThony>jahaas: sorry for delay, and yeah, we need the node to be our proxy, if it sees via api that something came in in per say btc, we send via own node response on ethereum network, implementing own ICO solutions. Thank you for anwser :)
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08:42<Douglas>Good morning, I wonder if the line has a lock on port 587?
08:42<@jhaas>cool :)
08:42<@jhaas>Douglas: we don't block any ports by default
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08:42<@jhaas>only reason we would is if you had a ToS ticket
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08:43<DubbaThony>and also, @jhaas, Ive got bad expirience with another provider, when they considered IO queue as CPU load (unix system load) and that would make the node never sync.
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08:43<DubbaThony>even if I used cpu limitter to limit CPU usage to some ridiculus values, server would be shut down automagically.
08:44<DubbaThony>(ridiculus aka 10% max cpu) lol
08:44<@jhaas>we do care about I/O usage, but in my experience I've never actually seen it be an issue
08:45<@jhaas>worst comes to worst you can try us for 7 days and get money back :)
08:45<Peng>Can confirm, jhaas hasn't yelled at me yet.
08:45<DubbaThony>Yeah, Im just asking if you measure by unix sysload, cause it also counts IO load, and you can have literally IDLE cpu with big queue and load will be like 10
08:45<Peng>For my CPU and I/O usage. :P
08:45<DubbaThony>hah :)
08:45*jhaas hunts down peng
08:46<Douglas>Do you have a trial period?
08:46<@jhaas>DubbaThony: not specifically sysload on linodes, no; we do track the sysload on the underlying host which is what we really care about
08:47<@jhaas>at the end of the day if you aren't bothering other people s'all good
08:47<DubbaThony>Okay, that makes me happy :D
08:47<@jhaas>Douglas: yep, you can request a full refund within 7 days of signing up
08:48<DubbaThony>thanks!
08:48<DubbaThony>have an awesome day :)
08:48<@jhaas>:)
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08:51<@jhaas>Peng: you pass
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09:03<Megaf>Hi folks
09:07<@bmartin>hello
09:13<Megaf>Man, I'm so happy with Linodes documentation, support, staff and comunity
09:13<@afalcone>:)
09:13<Megaf>Yet, what we get for what we pay for, is not good at all
09:14<Megaf>So for now, I just downsized my Linode and got a dedicated server somewhere else for the same price of Linode VPS
09:14<@bmartin>We are sorry to hear that Megaf. What seems to be the issue you are experiencing?
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09:15<Megaf>bmartin: I don't have any issue per say. I just believe that Linode is overpriced.
09:16<Megaf>Several years ago Linodes prices were just a little bit over the other VPSes offers on the market
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09:16<Megaf>but it was alright for me, due the the great quality, performance and support
09:16<Megaf>but now a days, I has became just too overpriced. Im my opinion
09:17<Megaf>The most overpriced thing on Linode is the storage I would say
09:18<Megaf>In my application I don't need super fast IO. But I do need a lot of storage.
09:18<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • devis pose escalier lapeyre <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15746&p=75724#p75724>
09:19<Megaf>Information - The requested topic does not exist.
09:19<Megaf>lol
09:20<Megaf>for example, in my dedicated I'm paying $14.99/months, I get 4 threads, 4 GB of RAM and 2 TB of disk space
09:21<Megaf>On Linode I would get 1 thread, 2 GB of RAM and 30 GB of space
09:21<Megaf>for 10 USD
09:22<Megaf>Well, That's my perspective, all in my opinion. And again. I would like to confirm great quality and general performance of Linode. I have been a client for several years.
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09:25<@bmartin>Well I'm glad you had a good experience with us and that we performed to your expectations. We are always looking at our offerings and assessing them. Thank you for the feedback
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09:28<linbot>New news from forum: Feature Request/Bug Report • Privilege to choose maintenance window for critical patches <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15683&p=75616#p75616>
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10:18<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • polska kvinnor kontaktannonser <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15747&p=75725#p75725>
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10:28<linbot>New news from forum: Feature Request/Bug Report • Privilege to choose maintenance window for critical patches <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15683&p=75616#p75616> || General Discussion • Linode can not be ssh <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15675&p=75613#p75613>
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10:43<smallclone>Megaf: Linode lags behind competitors a bit in terms of SSD per plan (though iirc they updated those plans after Linode came out with a 1GB for $5 plan, which they didn't have) but just about any comparison will show you that Linode's SSDs are significantly better than what most of other VPS providers are using
10:45<smallclone>i mean there are plenty of things to justifiably complain about with Linode but performance / resources for price isn't one of them imo
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10:58<linbot>New news from forum: Sales Questions and Answers • Is it typical for Linode to issue IPs to new clients where the IP is blacklisted? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15748&p=75726#p75726>
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11:14<Megaf>smallclone: I agree that Linode has one of the best SSDs on the market, tho the amount of storage is the issue
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11:16<smallclone>well...i don't think it's fair to call it an issue of price then, unless you expect them to provide more expensive SSD storage for the same amount of money
11:18<smallclone>which would be great and all, but cmon. they're not VC-backed like DO. if anything you should tell DO to use better SSDs.
11:18<smallclone>i would +1 that uservoice feedback
11:18<linbot>New news from forum: Sales Questions and Answers • Is it typical for Linode to issue IPs to new clients where the IP is blacklisted? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15748&p=75727#p75727>
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11:39<dubidub>It would be fairly easy to script a check against common blacklist before assigning an IP to a customer. Doesn't Linode do this?
11:48<linbot>New news from forum: Sales Questions and Answers • Is it typical for Linode to issue IPs to new clients where the IP is blacklisted? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15748&p=75728#p75728>
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11:58<smallclone>this is one of those "it should be easy to..." things that isn't at all easy or feasible
12:08<linbot>New news from forum: Sales Questions and Answers • Is it typical for Linode to issue IPs to new clients where the IP is blacklisted? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15748&p=75729#p75729>
12:12<dzho>I am intrigued by your ideas on managing a VPS provider and wish to subscribe to your service.
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12:15<smallclone>i'm going to open a vps provider with plans starting at 400gb of enterprise grade SSD storage for $5/month, and all IPs will go through hours of personal vetting before being assigned
12:15<smallclone>i anticipate this will go really, really well
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12:17<Peng>I'm sure a VC company will write you a check for $100 million immediately.
12:19<armiller_but_not>Just use the IP to send emails to everyone asking "can you hear me now"
12:19<smallclone>blockchain fintech hosting for your machine learning container
12:19<armiller_but_not>100% foolproof
12:21<smallclone>another idea: get to a point where you've verified that there is no spam on your platform, and then stop accepting new customers / creating new machines. forever.
12:21<smallclone>problem solved.
12:21<armiller_but_not>0 customers means 0 spam
12:21<armiller_but_not>A flawless IP reputation
12:24<smallclone>jalter should be taking notes here
12:24<smallclone>we're just giving away great ideas
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12:29<@afalcone>smallclone: I'll be sure to let him know
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12:29<armiller_but_not>!lick afalcone
12:29<linbot>armiller_but_not: Point given to afalcone. (2)
12:30<ponas>also, release a PoC (proof of customer; mined by having a VPS) cryptocurrency. this will make it so all customers PROFIT by being a customer
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12:32<smallclone>and while we're at it WHEN ARE WE GETTING SPARC LINODES
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12:32<smallclone>*every* other hosting provider lets me deploy solaris 11 on sparc. all of them.
12:34<@afalcone>-_-
12:34<kenyon_>did something happen in fremont or was it just my linode that died
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12:35<kenyon_>it's weird, connecting to its lish console, it's unresponsive. can't get login prompt. like it locked up. never had this happen.
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12:36<armiller_but_not>kenyon_: If it's truly unresponsive you'll probably have to reboot
12:36<kenyon_>doing that now
12:37<armiller_but_not>It's likely you hit a CPU stall. Even if a reboot gets you back up you should definitely open a ticket with Linode
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12:38<kenyon_>yeah looks like the shutdown is just hanging
12:38<kenyon_>oh nope finally it rebooted
12:39<armiller_but_not>Yeah, I'm pretty sure a shutdown will force kill your VM if it's hung up (after enough time)
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12:40<@afalcone>kenyon: looks like it came back up, are you able to log in?
12:41<Peng>armiller_but_not: Yup
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12:44<myDevIT>Hey
12:44<Peng>Hi
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12:44<Eugene>Eery day I'm Linodin'
12:44<myDevIT>I am newbee on linode
12:44<myDevIT>i just created a image
12:44<myDevIT>but unable to login via putty
12:45<myDevIT>i am getting Access denied
12:45<myDevIT>and on Lish i am getting worng password
12:45<myDevIT>Peg, Do you mind in helping a baby
12:45<myDevIT>I am sorry i mean peng
12:46<armiller_but_not>Are you entering the wrong password? The deploy process only asks you to enter your password once. If you made a typo there it would mess you up
12:46<myDevIT>i am trying a correct passed though
12:46<myDevIT>but i am trying at first time
12:46<@afalcone>you can try resetting your root password from the rescue tab
12:46<myDevIT>i did
12:46<@afalcone>hmmm
12:46<myDevIT>but no sucess
12:47<myDevIT>any clue will be appreciated...
12:47<armiller_but_not>myDevIT: And you are using `root` as your user right?
12:47<myDevIT>yes, i am using mydevit
12:47<myDevIT>as this is the name i placed while creating the account
12:48<relidy>"And you are using `root` as your user right?"
12:48<myDevIT>my bad!!! I am using mydevit
12:48<armiller_but_not>Yeah, you will want to use root
12:48<relidy>!point armiller_but_not
12:48<linbot>relidy: Point given to armiller_but_not. (2)
12:48<@afalcone>!lick armiller_but_not
12:48<linbot>afalcone: Point given to armiller_but_not. (3)
12:49<myDevIT>http://prntscr.com/i5j6yw
12:49<@afalcone>i don't know the true identity of armiller_but_not
12:49<myDevIT>this is what i am getting
12:49<@afalcone>but he knows some stuff
12:50<relidy>myDevIT: It looks like you're still trying to connect as the wrong user. You'll want "root" as the username.
12:50<myDevIT>let me try. i hope it will work
12:51<myDevIT>yeah it worked...
12:51<myDevIT>Thanks
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12:59<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • dating steder i oslo <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15749&p=75730#p75730>
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13:19<kenyon>afalcone: all good now, thanks
13:22<@afalcone>good to hear
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13:52<Yaazkal>thinking about resizing a linde from 4GB RAM to 8GB RAM... but does it really takes 36 minutes?
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13:59<Peng>Probably not
14:01<armiller_but_not>^ But you should be prepared for it to take that long anyways
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14:11<Peng>"Possibly yes" is the most important interpretation of "Probably not" :D
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14:17<Yaazkal>:)
14:18<Yaazkal>so "probaby" it gets migrated to another server and is not "rebased" on the same server?
14:18<Yaazkal>pyshically
14:21<Peng>Yes. I'm not sure they're *ever* kept on the same host.
14:21<Peng>But 36 minutes is a pessimistic estimate. Even moving all your data to another host is usually faster.
14:23<Peng>1.) Don't be mad at me if it takes 36 minutes. 2.) I bet it'll take about 6 minutes.
14:24<Yaazkal>It's ok, I understand that 36 can be the worst scenario
14:24<Yaazkal>So I'll do that close at midnight to not generate any issue
14:24<Yaazkal>to my sites
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14:40<aleem>hi
14:40<Peng>Hello
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14:45<smallclone>feel free to ask your question
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15:02<Ikaros>Welp. I gave in. I made a new Linode. Or rather, easier to say I "returned to Dallas" with Linode, lol.
15:03<@mcintosh>!point Ikaros
15:03<linbot>mcintosh: Point given to ikaros. (2)
15:03<Ikaros>Here's hoping that wasn't simply an impulse I gave into and I actually had a purpose for it, lulz
15:04<Ikaros>Oh right I had a reason. Nevermind. I remember now
15:05<millisa>Thanks to whoever is keeping https://developers.linode.com/v4/changelogs up to date. The new changes broke my monitoring, but all the info for why was right there.
15:05<@mcintosh>millisa: i will send your regards!
15:05<@mcintosh>you're welcome :)
15:05<millisa>thanks
15:05<millisa>now i just need to notice it changing ahead of time
15:06<Ikaros>Question now is which distro I want to deploy. Heh.
15:06<millisa>centos. you need ancient glibc!
15:06<Ikaros>I'll figure that out after I get some sleep. Was up all night writing backup scripts for an IRC network's services package.
15:06<millisa>or is it time for some bsd?
15:07<Ikaros>Said scripts, btw, work so wonderfully it was so worth pulling an all-nighter to get 'em done.
15:07<Ikaros>I seem to do my best scripting at night after all.
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15:18<@wblew>millisa: mcintosh relayed your feedback to the team, thank you!
15:18<@wblew>:)
15:19*wblew waves at mcintosh
15:19<millisa>!point wblew
15:19<linbot>millisa: Point given to wblew. (1)
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15:20<@wblew>!point mcintosh
15:20<linbot>wblew: Point given to mcintosh. (23)
15:21<@mcintosh>:D
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15:27<warewolf>!point mtfnpy
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15:38<rg78>whois
15:38<millisa>weare!
15:39<armiller_but_not>whoami
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15:40<rg78>cleqar
15:41<jimb0>yolo
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16:11<bfoote>I have a system in the london datacenter that has gone unresponsive, after initiating reboot via web interface it is in "System Shutdown" for more than 10 minutes
16:11<bfoote>can I escalate through pm here?
16:11<dzho>bfoote: they're almost certainly going to want you to have an open ticket
16:12<millisa>is there a 'boot' button on the web ui? have you watched it via lish when it's booting?
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16:12<armiller_but_not>You might be able to get staff's attention here (note I said might), but they are always going to want to resolve your issue through a ticket
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16:12<millisa>lish also has a 'logview' command you can use to see the last boot
16:12<bfoote>bmartin: jhaas: jmetz: ^^
16:13<armiller_but_not>It's also quite possible that there is already a ticket opened by Linode or that there will be one shortly
16:13<dzho>@mcintosh ^^^^
16:13<dzho>d'oh
16:13*dzho put @ there just ... because my brain is tired
16:13<dzho>but that's the last linode employee op in my backscroll
16:14<@nmelehan>bfoote: if you open a ticket with us and let us know the ticket ID number we'll take a look
16:15<bfoote>nmelehan: 9875696 thanks much
16:16<@mcintosh>o/
16:16<dzho>:\
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16:22<armiller_but_not>At the point that people are trying to highlight ops, we should probably be telling people to call Linode on da phone
16:23<@mcintosh>it's fine... i like attention
16:23*mcintosh winks
16:23<armiller_but_not>mcintosh is of course the exception to the rule. Give him lots of hugs and attention
16:28<@bhanks>mcintosh <3
16:29<linbot>New news from forum: Sales Questions and Answers • Is it typical for Linode to issue IPs to new clients where the IP is blacklisted? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15748&p=75731#p75731>
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16:49<linbot>New news from forum: Sales Questions and Answers • Is it typical for Linode to issue IPs to new clients where the IP is blacklisted? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15748&p=75733#p75733>
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18:00<linbot>New news from kernels: 4.4.113-x86-linode115 <https://www.linode.com/kernels/?ver=1516920431#281> || 4.4.113-x86_64-linode96 <https://www.linode.com/kernels/?ver=1516920431#282>
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18:40<linbot>New news from forum: Sales Questions and Answers • Is it typical for Linode to issue IPs to new clients where the IP is blacklisted? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15748&p=75734#p75734>
18:51*mcintosh faints
18:58<relidy>!point smallclone
18:58<linbot>relidy: Point given to smallclone. (6)
19:00<linbot>New news from forum: Sales Questions and Answers • Is it typical for Linode to issue IPs to new clients where the IP is blacklisted? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15748&p=75735#p75735>
19:01<@mcintosh>!point smallclone
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20:10<armiller>Boy that was wild. I'm back now though
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23:01<linbot>New news from forum: Sales Questions and Answers • Is it typical for Linode to issue IPs to new clients where the IP is blacklisted? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15748&p=75736#p75736>
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