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02:26<JamesTK>Linodin' to the bank
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02:32<Woet>its a fake bhanks!
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02:42<Woet>bhanks: glad you're here, someone was impersonating you
02:42<Woet>i suggest +b *!*@00025989.user.oftc.net
02:42<@bhanks>settle down kids its all going to be ok
02:42<Woet>why are you calling me kids
02:42<Woet>i'm not a kid nor am I plural
02:42<@bhanks>well Woet it's not all about you allll the time
02:43<Woet>who else were you talking to
02:43<Woet>theres no one else
02:43<@bhanks>all of Linodia
02:43<Woet>does that include Zimsky
02:43<@bhanks>ill have to think about that
02:46<JamesTK>Haha
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02:51<Woet>bahahahahaha
02:51<Woet>BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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06:16<Nethaji>Hey hai
06:17<Nethaji>I have installed centos 7 and started install cpanel/whm
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06:17<Nethaji>where I have to check the installation status
06:18<Nethaji>anybody here to help
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07:01<ayyl>Hi, any idea if we can expect the next round of RAM doubling soon? I mean Hetzner is currently less than 1/3 the price of Linode for equivalent instances.
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07:04<NABEEL>HI
07:04<NABEEL>GOOD DAY
07:05<NABEEL>HELLOOOOOO
07:05<NABEEL>I NEED ASSISTANCE ANYONE THERE???????????
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07:06<NABEEL>is someone there to assist?
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07:09<rsdehart>never even asked a real question
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07:11<nabeel>hi
07:11<rsdehart>nabeel: ready to ask a question yet?
07:12<nabeel>standard plan includes maintenance or no?
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07:12<rsdehart>if I've learned anything from the questions normally asked in here, it's that they're usually answered on the website
07:12<rsdehart>no
07:12<rsdehart>!managed
07:12<linbot>https://www.linode.com/managed
07:12<nabeel>ok
07:12<nabeel>thanks
07:13<rsdehart>you're welcome
07:13<rsdehart>now I realize I'm not certain what you mean by maintenance, but if you mean managed, no
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07:54<linbot>New news from forum: Sales Questions and Answers • Prices and EU VAT <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15456&p=75747#p75747>
08:01<ayyl>^- If that happens without prices getting cut in half I'm switching. I can get a 2 GB RAM VPS from Hetzner for 2.49€ which already includes VAT. In comparison, staying on Linode I would be paying 9.75€. (19% VAT + 1.75% currency exchange fee)
08:02<ayyl>Prices would need to be slashes to 1/4th for Linode pricing to be competitive.
08:02<ayyl>slashed*
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08:06<iSRAELi>just find an outside EU puppet
08:06<iSRAELi>to be registered for your linodes
08:06<ayyl>Yeah, no, it's a personal VPS.
08:06<iSRAELi>so?
08:07<iSRAELi>dont you have a friend outside of EU to be registered for it just to act as a puppet?
08:07<ayyl>No, I don't do illegal stuff. As-is right now Linode is on the hook for collecting VAT.
08:08<ayyl>As you can see their prices are already bad enough even without VAT.
08:09<iSRAELi>its high, yeah, but i had my share of issues with other hosting companies
08:09<iSRAELi>so i dont mind paying for quality
08:09<iSRAELi>by the way, the cheapest linodes are prices are fair
08:10<ayyl>hardly, compare Hetzner CX11 to Linode 2GB.
08:10<iSRAELi>never heard of them actually
08:11<ayyl>or Scaleway C1, although those tend to have lower CPU performance
08:11<ayyl>I'm not that concerned because my workload is RAM focused
08:12<iSRAELi>are they SSD'd?
08:12<iSRAELi>for the prices you compare
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08:13<ayyl>Yes.
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08:15<iSRAELi>by the way, they are limited on offering server locations
08:15<iSRAELi>based on germany
08:15<iSRAELi>in
08:20<ayyl>I know, my server is in London and I was planning to migrate them to Frankfurt anyway.
08:22<iSRAELi>oh
08:24<Woet>but its openvz
08:24<Woet>why would you
08:25<Woet>also, hetzners pricing is ex-VAT too
08:25<Woet>not sure what makes you say it the 2.49 includes it
08:25<Woet>also, get a decent creditcard, currency exchange fees should not be a thing
08:27<Woet>oh apparently its KVM, not openVZ
08:35<ayyl>Yeah I just noticed that, still 1/3 of the price though.
08:37<Woet>just wait until it fills up and your CPU performance tanks to 1/10th of Linode
08:37<ayyl>Yeah I'm really not too worried about that as my Linode is always under 5% CPU usage. What I need is RAM.
08:38<Woet>then go for it
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12:28<sassy>for a LEMP setup running on CENTOS serving a single 5 page html website and 2 email users what is the minimum recommended Linode plan?
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12:29<sassy>I am only asking about ram and core(s), not storage and transfer
12:30<Woet>none of that is relevant to the specs
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12:31<Woet>google.com is a 2 page website and I'm pretty sure they need more than a Linode plan
12:31<iSRAELi>it depends on your traffic dude
12:31<Woet>bill@microsoft.com is 1 email user and I'm pretty sure he needs more than a Linode plan too
12:32<sassy>light traffic
12:32<Woet>ah, yes, "light"
12:32<Woet>only the best measurement units
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13:43<schwa>used to gauge the power of toasters throughout the web
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14:01<okabe>hello
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14:01<okabe>what version of debian is availible for images ?
14:01<okabe>is it 9.3?
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14:02<okabe>cause it just says debian 9
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14:03<okabe>o.o
14:05<Peng>It's the same thing.
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14:06<Peng>Just run apt-get update and upgrade.
14:07<okabe>okay
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14:36<paperfreckles>Hello everyone!
14:36<millisa>greetings
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14:37<paperfreckles>Hi millisa - I was hoping someone might be able to help me with some concerns I have
14:37<millisa>!ask
14:37<linbot>If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read http://alexfornuto.com/how-to-ask-for-help-on-irc/
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14:40<paperfreckles>I've taken over web maintenance for a business previously done by someone else. In the process of getting my bearings it appears there are some issues with the site going down. When the business owner contacted the previous contractor, he's apparently made threats that he's deleted the "web properties"? - I know that the contractor was hosting the site here. I'm wondering what he's talking about - IF he's just full of
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14:41<millisa>Maybe he meant 'assets' and not properties?
14:42<paperfreckles>millisa - I've seen the email to the owner - he could have meant assets - he was being a little kooky. But the email basically said he deleted them and he'd never be found on the web again, etc.
14:42<millisa>So, is it his linode account or the business owner's?
14:43<paperfreckles>It appears to be the contractors Linode account. The business owner said he sent him login information, etc. but he didn't know what he was looking at...
14:44<millisa>Well, if it's not the business owner's account, that'd make it a pain.
14:45<millisa>what's the site?
14:45<paperfreckles>Yes, it certainly would. I'm waiting to hear back from the B.O. to forward whatever emails he may have sent. But the contractor is certainly treading dangerous waters with that email
14:45<paperfreckles>theussedcompany.com
14:46<millisa>looks like it has dns at linode and the site points to a linode IP
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14:48<millisa>the ip it is pointed at pings, but only appears to have ssh and https open; not that anything responds on https
14:48<paperfreckles>Yes - I looked into it and saw that info. I've seen an email where he's said as much. Some of this is "above my pay grade" so that's why I'm here to try and understand
14:49<millisa>it sounds like the business owner has a legal issue first, and a technical issue second...
14:49<paperfreckles>Agreed
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14:51<paperfreckles>So - the long and short of it seems to be: If the contractor has this DNS on his account, there's no easy way to have it point it away and be done with it unless he comes to his senses.
14:51<millisa>either way, they should get their dns setup somewhere they control and change the registrar to use that
14:51<millisa>otherwise, when they remove the zone from their account, not only does the website stop working, your mail does too...
14:52<millisa>hopefully the owner has the godaddy login
14:52<paperfreckles>So you're saying that the BO can set up DNS somewhere else and just begin using that?
14:52<paperfreckles>Oh the owner does have his godaddy login, yes.
14:53<millisa>well, step 1 would be reclaiming control of dns someplace that has all of their records setup. step 2, you can get their temporary site up somewhere
14:53<paperfreckles>It seems as though the Linode thing is the only thing the contractor has access to anymore
14:54<Peng>Are you sure.
14:56<paperfreckles>@millisa I have a company in minde to take things over and get this up and running. I wanted to get a bit more background with the Linode bit while I wait for that to shake out
14:56<millisa>linode is just a vps hoster.
14:58<millisa>if you had your own business account, and the old developer was the least bit cooperative, you could get the linode transferred from his account to yours
14:58<millisa>er, if the business owner had their own linode account that is
14:59<millisa>but it takes a ticket from both accounts asking the linode support folks to move it
15:00<paperfreckles>That should be interesting - the dynamic between them seems to be less than cooperative. At least from the contractors standpoint. The email with the threats were less than professional and more whiny kid who can't play with the toys
15:04<Peng>A business relationship where people are setting things on fire and running away suggests someone's professionalism is not at its zenith.
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15:35<Ikaros>Heh, I maxed out the CPU last night compiling GCC 7.3 on my Dallas Linode. Got an alert saying I averaged a solid 100.0% CPU over 2 hours.
15:35<dwfreed>yeah, gcc takes a long time without parallelism
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17:55<md_5>does atlanta still do port blocking now that DO has its own network
17:55<md_5>s/do/linode
17:57<Peng>No
17:57<Peng>Also get out. :P
17:57<Peng>No wait come back!
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19:29<Eugene>Every day I'm Linodin'
19:42<tmberg>Eugene: Nope. Youre server is down.
19:52<@bhanks>hi Eugene
19:53<waltman>Ask your doctor if Linodin' is right for you
19:58<@bhanks>waltman Linodin' is right for most people.
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20:03<phlux>what's up bobbert hanks
20:03<@bhanks>cant you give me a better name than that?
20:04<waltman>Beauregard?
20:05<phlux>idk i like bobbert
20:05<phlux>ok what about billy bob
20:05<phlux>billy bob hanks
20:06<millisa>Brosephus
20:06<@bhanks>it really always is a joy being out amongst the public! <3
20:06<waltman>Could be Betty Hanks.
20:07<phlux>Brotato Hanks
20:07<@scrane>Bobbert
20:08<waltman>Why are you assuming bhanks is male?
20:09<waltman>4 out of 5 doctors recommend Linodin'
20:10<phlux>Bobbert is unisex
20:13<@bhanks>it is absolutely not
20:15<phlux>what
20:15<phlux>how so
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21:24<@bhanks>my real name is @scrane
21:24<@scrane>We are one in the same.
21:44<rsdehart>clones!
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21:51<tmberg>Bots?
21:51<tmberg>:)
21:52<@bhanks>beep
21:55<@scrane>boop
22:07<Zimsky>no
22:07<Zimsky>Woet: klootzak
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22:44<smirke>I just set up my first linode with centos. I then followed the instructions in the Linode guide : Email with Postfix, Dovecot and MariaDB on CentOS 7. It shows the results of Telnet EHLO localhost 25 on localhost and AUTH = plain. Shouldn'
22:44<smirke>Shouldn't this be encrypted?
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22:51<millisa>should what be encrypted?
22:51<smirke>the email password. I
22:51<millisa>if you send it plain and you don't start tls, no?
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23:34<Woet>bhanks: Zimsky is bullying me again
23:36<@bhanks>Woet there there little one. all is well.
23:37<Woet>are you an ent
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23:40<@bhanks>i am not but thank you for asking
23:40<Woet>shame
23:40<Woet>i read that in their voice
23:40<Woet>you ruined my dreams
23:44<Zimsky>I was behind in my schedule
23:46<rsdehart>bhanks is now known as tbeard
23:47<rsdehart>does anyone know whether Treebeard and ZZ Top drummer Frank Beard are related?
23:47<rsdehart>I think they are
23:49<Zimsky>frank beard is the only one without a beard
23:50<Zimsky>I find that weard
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23:57<@bhanks>im really sorry to let everyone down
23:57<Zimsky>you haven't let me down
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