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| 00:16 | <rsdehart> | Zimsky: he's certainly the only one without a long beard, but from time to time he has sported a goatee |
| 00:16 | <Zimsky> | yeah |
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| 01:38 | <Nazar> | Hi |
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| 01:40 | <Nazar> | I wanna purchase your server but i need some information |
| 01:40 | <Nazar> | could you please??? |
| 01:41 | <grawity> | are you going to ask questions |
| 01:41 | <Nazar> | yep |
| 01:41 | <grawity> | will you be asking them anytime soon |
| 01:41 | <Nazar> | should i send mail? |
| 01:42 | <grawity> | really, please just get to the point |
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| 01:42 | <grawity> | (also if you want official answers by staff, be prepared to wait a bit) |
| 01:46 | <FluffyFoxeh> | <Ikaros> Heh, I maxed out the CPU last night compiling GCC 7.3 on my Dallas Linode. Got an alert saying I averaged a solid 100.0% CPU over 2 hours. |
| 01:46 | <FluffyFoxeh> | I had to turn that alert off, otherwise it would trigger every night due to sa-learn |
| 01:48 | <Nazar> | Am going to purchase the server.May be i will increase my configuration.It is possible without spoil my data? |
| 01:48 | <FluffyFoxeh> | You can resize a Linode at any time without data loss |
| 01:49 | <FluffyFoxeh> | It will briefly shut down though |
| 01:52 | <Nazar> | Thanks there is any promo code for new customer |
| 01:52 | <Nazar> | ? |
| 01:54 | <FluffyFoxeh> | Try DOCS10 |
| 01:55 | <FluffyFoxeh> | and my referral code d7c416ac5933cb3e956a3c78306b6c5eb49bbac7 ;) |
| 01:55 | <@bhanks> | smh lol |
| 01:55 | <FluffyFoxeh> | hehehehhe |
| 01:55 | <FluffyFoxeh> | >.> |
| 01:57 | <FluffyFoxeh> | !lick bhanks |
| 01:57 | <linbot> | FluffyFoxeh: Point given to bhanks. (3) |
| 01:58 | <@bhanks> | ugh |
| 01:59 | <FluffyFoxeh> | blame whomever made that alias |
| 01:59 | <FluffyFoxeh> | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
| 01:59 | <@bhanks> | I suspect mcintosh |
| 01:59 | <@bhanks> | <3 |
| 02:00 | <FluffyFoxeh> | !lick mcintosh |
| 02:00 | <linbot> | FluffyFoxeh: Point given to mcintosh. (24) |
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| 02:11 | <Ikaros> | Ok, neat, now let's see how new GCC does compiling new Linux kernel. |
| 02:11 | <Ikaros> | Sucks I couldn't try this right after GCC finished compiling. |
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| 02:26 | <Ikaros> | And there's the effect I was looking for, pulling it from ps: "-mindirect-branch=thunk-extern -mindirect-branch-register -DRETPOLINE" |
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| 02:45 | <Zimsky> | I thought dretpoline was a type of drug |
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| 03:37 | <Ikaros> | And there's the result I want. Tool reports fully mitigated on all 3 variants. |
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| 04:18 | <linbot> | New news from forum: General Discussion • prix pour carreler salle de bain <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15760&p=75755#p75755> |
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| 04:23 | <saqlain> | hi |
| 04:23 | <saqlain> | any one there |
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| 04:27 | <Woet> | yes |
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| 04:56 | <Zimsky> | https://web.archive.org/web/20031023011932/https://linode.com |
| 04:56 | <Zimsky> | classic |
| 05:01 | <Woet> | Zimsky: discover your roots |
| 05:01 | <Zimsky> | they're keratinised |
| 05:01 | <Woet> | stop using fancy words |
| 05:04 | <hawk> | Zimsky: UML hype |
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| 06:17 | <trippeh> | ooh free disk space |
| 06:17 | <trippeh> | where do I sign up |
| 06:19 | <trippeh> | "Every machine on our internal network has a switched 100 Mbps Fast Ethernet connection to our Cisco switching equipment." Holy Moly! |
| 06:19 | <ponas> | neat |
| 06:21 | * | trippeh brings up another 40G optic in the home notwork |
| 06:23 | <Zimsky> | hawk: what is |
| 06:24 | <Zimsky> | Woet: I have no roots because I'm not a fucking tree |
| 06:25 | <hawk> | Zimsky: Uh? |
| 06:25 | <Zimsky> | <hawk> Zimsky: UML hype |
| 06:25 | <Zimsky> | uh¿? |
| 06:26 | <hawk> | Zimsky: Linode was based on User-mode Linux at that time. There was even this "powered by" thing on the page you linked. |
| 06:28 | <@gjjansen> | !point Zimsky |
| 06:28 | <linbot> | gjjansen: Point given to zimsky. (5) |
| 06:28 | <@bmartin> | !point zimsky |
| 06:28 | <linbot> | bmartin: Point given to zimsky. (6) |
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| 06:36 | <Zimsky> | I have no idea why I'm getting points, but thanks |
| 06:37 | <Zimsky> | hawk: i see |
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| 06:39 | <Zimsky> | !point Woet |
| 06:39 | <linbot> | Zimsky: Point given to woet. (4) (Biggest fan: zimsky, total: 10) |
| 06:40 | <Zimsky> | ^___^ |
| 06:40 | <ponas> | I offer to give a point to anyone giving me a point |
| 06:41 | <Zimsky> | what if someone were to take a point? |
| 06:41 | <Zimsky> | would you reciprocate that? |
| 06:41 | <ponas> | yes. |
| 06:41 | <Zimsky> | the absolute madman |
| 06:42 | <ponas> | not sure if I have any points, how do I check |
| 06:42 | <ponas> | !points |
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| 06:44 | <Zimsky> | !towels |
| 06:45 | <Zimsky> | !wx UEEE |
| 06:45 | <linbot> | Zimsky: [metar] OBS at UEEE: -43.6F/-42C, visibility 0250 miles, wind 2.24 mph, chill N/A (altimeter: 30.061522694) [UEEE 291130Z 36001MPS 0250 0200SW R23L/0800N FG NSC M42/M46 Q1018 R23L/490150] |
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| 06:49 | <linbot> | New news from forum: General Discussion • Perform reboot automatically when Linode kernel update is available <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15684&p=75756#p75756> |
| 06:50 | <hawk> | Zimsky: Just slightly off from where C and F intersect. |
| 06:50 | <grawity> | !wx IEEE |
| 06:50 | <Zimsky> | I love me some intersection |
| 06:50 | <linbot> | grawity: [metar] IEEE: not data available, valid code? |
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| 09:29 | <Chuana0d> | refund please |
| 09:29 | <Chuana0d> | 请你们退款 |
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| 09:31 | <Chuana0d> | refund please refund please refund please refund please refund please refund please refund please refund please refund please refund please refund please |
| 09:31 | <Chuana0d> | refund please refund please refund please refund please refund please refund please refund please refund please refund please refund please refund please refund please refund please refund please refund please refund please refund please refund please refund please refund please refund please refund please refund please |
| 09:31 | <Chuana0d> | refund please！\n refund please！\n refund please！\n refund please！\n refund please！\n |
| 09:31 | <Chuana0d> | refund please！\n refund please！\n refund please！\n refund please！\n refund please！\n refund please！\n refund please！\n |
| 09:31 | <Chuana0d> | refund please！\n refund please！\n refund please！\n refund please！\n refund please！\n refund please！\n |
| 09:31 | <Chuana0d> | refund please！\n refund please！\n refund please！\n refund please！\n |
| 09:31 | <Chuana0d> | refund please！\n refund please！\n refund please！\n refund please！\n |
| 09:31 | <Chuana0d> | refund please！\n refund please！\n refund please！\n refund please！\n refund please！\n |
| 09:31 | <@bmartin> | Hey there. As this is a public channel we are unable to assist witht hat here. |
| 09:31 | <Chuana0d> | refund please！\n refund please！\n refund please！\n refund please！\n refund please！\n refund please！\n refund please！\n refund please！\n |
| 09:31 | <Chuana0d> | refund please！\n refund please！\n refund please！\n refund please！\n refund please！\n refund please！\n |
| 09:31 | <Peng> | Chuana0d: What the hell! |
| 09:32 | <@bmartin> | Can you please email support@linode.com with the last 6 of the credit card on file for your account so we may further address this situation. |
| 09:32 | <@bmartin> | Spamming the IRC forum is not an effective way to receive assistance with this matter. Please do not continue to do that. |
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| 09:32 | <Chuana0d> | Ok |
| 09:33 | <Chuana0d> | what a fuck vps |
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| 09:34 | <@bmartin> | Chuana0d let's consider this a warning. Our public support channel is not able to help with specific account matters in regards to your credit card. If you email the support@linode.com with the last 6 of the card on file we can sort this out for you. If this is because we requested further identity verification then a refund was already issued and will arrive in your account in 3-5 business days. |
| 09:36 | <Chuana0d> | Ok ,Thank you |
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| 10:01 | <gparent> | I thought yelling refund please in #linode was standard policy, I guess I was mistaken! |
| 10:01 | <ponas> | fix computer problem please |
| 10:01 | <ponas> | it says error |
| 10:01 | <gparent> | thats how I open support tickets |
| 10:01 | <gparent> | fix meltdown |
| 10:01 | <gparent> | thx u |
| 10:02 | <ponas> | improve performance thanks |
| 10:02 | <gparent> | pls assign /56 whenever rdy |
| 10:02 | <Peng> | Do they do it faster when you repeat yourself 50 times |
| 10:02 | <gparent> | it seems like 9 is the sweet spot |
| 10:02 | <gparent> | you can use a timing attack to figure it out |
| 10:02 | <Peng> | 9 times per second, or total? |
| 10:02 | <gparent> | use the response time of the ticket to find out sensitive information like how long tickets take to get answered |
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| 10:09 | <FluffyFoxeh> | \n |
| 10:11 | <Woet> | bmartin: refund please \r\n |
| 10:15 | <FluffyFoxeh> | king me |
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| 10:21 | <armiller> | Needfuls pls \n |
| 10:23 | <@bmartin> | woet I'm sorry I was getting coffee |
| 10:23 | <@bmartin> | you've been refunded |
| 10:23 | <Woet> | thank you |
| 10:23 | <@gjjansen> | armiller: Hello, friend. |
| 10:23 | <armiller> | o/ It's really me this time too |
| 10:23 | <@gjjansen> | :) I can't believe it. |
| 10:27 | <FluffyFoxeh> | !refund |
| 10:28 | <linbot> | There is a 7 day money back guarantee period, giving you plenty of time to realize that Linode is awesome with your own eyes. Try it, you'll never look back. {TOS S. 4, and faq.cfm#how-do-i-close-my-account} |
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| 10:44 | <Woet> | can i have a refund on Zimsky's conception |
| 10:45 | <dzho> | Woet: why would you have paid for such a thing in the first place? |
| 11:02 | <Eugene> | Every day I'm Linodin' |
| 11:02 | <@bmartin> | there he is |
| 11:03 | <@gjjansen> | You can set your watch by it. I love it. |
| 11:05 | <Woet> | only if you want your watch to be wrong by ~ 8 hours |
| 11:05 | <Woet> | 2018-01-29.txt:[2018-01-29T08:29:16+0800] <Eugene> Every day I'm Linodin' |
| 11:05 | <Woet> | 2018-01-30.txt:[2018-01-30T00:02:44+0800] <Eugene> Every day I'm Linodin' |
| 11:07 | <@gjjansen> | Wow. I'm hurt. |
| 11:09 | <smallclone> | you can set your...calendar by it |
| 11:10 | <linbot> | New news from forum: General Discussion • cout salle de bain neuve <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15761&p=75757#p75757> |
| 11:10 | <Woet> | 2017-11-13.txt:[2017-11-13T16:29:25-0300] <Eugene> Every day I'm Linodin' |
| 11:10 | <Woet> | 2017-11-15.txt:[2017-11-15T18:43:14+0100] <Eugene> Every day I'm Linodin' |
| 11:10 | <Woet> | 2017-11-18.txt:[2017-11-18T19:46:09+0100] <Eugene> Every day I'm Linodin' |
| 11:10 | <Woet> | only if you want your calendar to randomly miss days throughout the week |
| 11:10 | <Woet> | Eugene is just unreliable and a fraudster |
| 11:12 | <smallclone> | well at least this proves that he isn't cheating and cron-ing it or something, which i'm sure most of us would've done a while ago |
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| 11:30 | <hawk> | Woet: Tbf, he could be Linoding without announcing it the other days |
| 11:31 | <dzho> | that's not good enough for Woet |
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| 11:44 | <zifnab> | To be fair, that was also last year |
| 11:44 | <zifnab> | He may be linoding more often now |
| 11:44 | <@gjjansen> | Eugene is authentic |
| 11:44 | <@gjjansen> | !point Eugene |
| 11:44 | <linbot> | gjjansen: Point given to eugene. (47) (Biggest fan: jalter, total: 16) |
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| 11:55 | <Eugene> | Linode Time Protocol: every day, you must Linode. |
| 11:55 | <Eugene> | Technically network based |
| 11:57 | <AlexMax> | This is weird |
| 11:57 | <AlexMax> | It appears that the local network of Linode is much slower than Rackspace |
| 11:57 | <smallclone> | by local network do you mean the "private" network between Linodes in the same dc? |
| 11:57 | <AlexMax> | yes |
| 11:57 | <AlexMax> | I took a set of SQL queries and had a script execute each one |
| 11:57 | <smallclone> | hm |
| 11:58 | <smallclone> | what kind of speeds are you seeing? |
| 11:58 | <AlexMax> | Done on rackspace, the file (just doing the queries, no looking at the results), takes around 1.2 seconds to run to completion |
| 11:59 | <AlexMax> | Done on Linode, the process takes 5.5 seconds |
| 11:59 | <AlexMax> | Done locally on the linode database server itself, it takes around 0.35 seconds |
| 11:59 | <AlexMax> | So the slowdown definitely appears to be the link between the two servers |
| 12:00 | <@bmartin> | hey AlexMax are you able to open a ticket so we can take a look at that?> |
| 12:00 | <AlexMax> | Sure, I'll open a ticket after I get some lunch |
| 12:00 | <AlexMax> | However, is there anything more....scientific I can do? |
| 12:00 | <@bmartin> | send that ticket over in here if you can too so I can bump it up the old ladder |
| 12:01 | <smallclone> | i mean, not definitively..are there any differences between the two machines? have you used something like iperf or even just mtr to measure network speed itself, instead of just the speed of a sql query? |
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| 12:02 | <AlexMax> | Well, I think that if the queries themselves take 0.35s, simply over localhost, I can pretty much point to the link itself as the culprit |
| 12:02 | <AlexMax> | I can't say if it's latency or bandwidth that's the problem though |
| 12:03 | <AlexMax> | the sql query test file I'm running is huge |
| 12:03 | <AlexMax> | 2.1 megabytes of queries |
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| 12:40 | <linbot> | New news from forum: General Discussion • sveriges bästa dejtingsidor <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15762&p=75758#p75758> |
| 12:50 | <linbot> | New news from forum: General Discussion • dejtingsidor omdömen <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15763&p=75759#p75759> |
| 12:53 | <branko> | That looks like spam :) |
| 12:53 | <@bmartin> | already gone |
| 12:55 | <CornishPasty> | Why isn’t there a requirement on the forums that to post you must be a paying customer of Pizza Hut? |
| 12:55 | <@bmartin> | Gotta keep the Noid off the boards |
| 12:55 | <CornishPasty> | And a requirement to show a receipt from the last 12 days |
| 12:55 | <@bmartin> | that was pizza hut right? |
| 12:56 | <CornishPasty> | Machine learning powered cheese |
| 12:56 | <ponas> | but there is no pizza hut in insert-my-country-here |
| 12:56 | <CornishPasty> | There’s Pizza Hut everywhere! |
| 12:56 | <CornishPasty> | Except in Nebraska |
| 12:58 | <CornishPasty> | Noid was dominos bmartin |
| 12:58 | <@bmartin> | ahhh my pizza villains were mixed up |
| 12:58 | <CornishPasty> | Yeah |
| 12:59 | <ponas> | Dominos recently expanded to my country by buying one of the biggest existing pizza chains |
| 12:59 | <CornishPasty> | ponas: sorry to hear that |
| 12:59 | <ponas> | their dough is horrible |
| 12:59 | <ponas> | I think they swapped flour and sugar |
| 13:00 | <CornishPasty> | I think you’re right |
| 13:01 | <@afalcone> | this is #pizzahut right? |
| 13:01 | <CornishPasty> | Yes |
| 13:01 | <@afalcone> | how about that stuffed crust though? |
| 13:01 | <CornishPasty> | I wish there was a decent pizza place near me that delivered |
| 13:02 | <CornishPasty> | afalcone: got dog stuffed crust? |
| 13:02 | <@bmartin> | I have an amazing pizza place near me that doesn't deliver |
| 13:02 | <@bmartin> | but you know it's good if people are willing to actually go there |
| 13:02 | <@afalcone> | CornishPasty: is that a thing? |
| 13:02 | <@bmartin> | I assume you mean Hot Dog...not...Dog |
| 13:03 | <ponas> | don't you have food delivery as a service? foodora is pretty big in europe |
| 13:03 | <@bmartin> | I live in a little nowhere town |
| 13:03 | <@bmartin> | we have no good food delivery services in my town |
| 13:03 | <ponas> | rip |
| 13:03 | <@afalcone> | I just opened a restauraunt near you bmartin |
| 13:04 | <CornishPasty> | Actually I think that was dominos that did hot dog stuffed crust |
| 13:04 | <CornishPasty> | Pizza Hut did cheeseburger stuffed crust |
| 13:04 | <@afalcone> | both sound horrifying |
| 13:04 | <CornishPasty> | ponas: we’ve got Deliveroo and Uber eats |
| 13:04 | <@afalcone> | but I would still try this |
| 13:04 | <@afalcone> | plz tell me thats austrailia |
| 13:04 | <@bmartin> | Deliveroo? delivery via kangaroo? |
| 13:04 | <@bmartin> | 10/10 would order |
| 13:05 | <CornishPasty> | http://www.ohgizmo.com/2013/09/23/pizza-hut-launches-cheeseburger-stuffed-crust-pizza/ |
| 13:05 | <CornishPasty> | Sadly not Australia, U.K. |
| 13:05 | <@bmartin> | so Kangaroos are not involved in any way? |
| 13:06 | <CornishPasty> | Nope |
| 13:06 | <@bmartin> | Their marketing team needs to step it up |
| 13:06 | <CornishPasty> | And their logo looks like a rabbit imo |
| 13:06 | <@bmartin> | lots of missed opportunities |
| 13:06 | <CornishPasty> | I assume their logo is a kangaroo |
| 13:08 | <AlexMax> | hrm, taking a second look at my test script, it might not have worked exactly as I imagined it would |
| 13:19 | <AlexMax> | Wow, this is even worse |
| 13:20 | <AlexMax> | if I actually fetch results from the query, my linode box takes 11 seconds (!) to run all the queries |
| 13:21 | <smallclone> | you should really just run some basic network tests |
| 13:21 | <AlexMax> | I just got back, heh |
| 13:21 | <AlexMax> | so I've only had time to modify my php test script |
| 13:23 | <@scrane> | Hmmm so scrolling up, the queries take 0.35 seconds give or take over localhost, but when querying the link in a different location, they're taking 11s? |
| 13:23 | <AlexMax> | Correct. |
| 13:23 | <AlexMax> | Well |
| 13:23 | <AlexMax> | In a different server over the private network |
| 13:24 | <AlexMax> | If I run the exact same setup with our existing rackspace setup, it takes ~1.2 seconds usually |
| 13:25 | <AlexMax> | (between two rackspace servers) |
| 13:27 | <@scrane> | Hmm. Are you able to run an iperf test between the two Linodes to make sure it isn't bandwidth issues? https://www.linode.com/docs/networking/diagnostics/diagnosing-network-speed-with-iperf |
| 13:28 | <@scrane> | I'm assuming latency via ping is at acceptable levels over the private network? |
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| 13:33 | <AlexMax> | scrane: one second, I'm measuring the mean/median query/result time of the SQL |
| 13:34 | <AlexMax> | also, for clarification, I'm comparing linode to a dedicated server setup, so the subtext of my findings isn't "hey, move to rackspace" |
| 13:34 | <AlexMax> | because the rackspace setup I imagine is incredibly expensive |
| 13:34 | <AlexMax> | still, if you prefer, I can refer to it as "Brand X" |
| 13:35 | <AlexMax> | also, we've used rackspace's cloud offerings before, frankly, they left a lot to be desired and were expensive for what you got |
| 13:37 | <@scrane> | What we're calling things isn't my primary concern. I just want to make sure what you have is as good as possible and I want to help narrow down where the additional time is coming from with the queries. |
| 13:37 | <smallclone> | i mean, this is all the more reason to run some network tests..it's possible the difference you're seeing is due to the hardware being used, not network speed |
| 13:37 | <smallclone> | i mean given the difference i feel like that's unlikely |
| 13:37 | <Peng> | Blame Meltdown! :P |
| 13:37 | <AlexMax> | scrane: I appreciate it |
| 13:38 | <AlexMax> | smallclone: I'm getting there |
| 13:48 | <AlexMax> | okay |
| 13:49 | <AlexMax> | 64 bytes from 192.168.100.69: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0.116 ms |
| 13:49 | <AlexMax> | this is what a ping over Brand X network is giving us |
| 13:49 | <AlexMax> | 64 bytes from 192.168.143.67: icmp_seq=4 ttl=64 time=2.10 ms |
| 13:49 | <AlexMax> | and this is a ping over the private network |
| 13:50 | <AlexMax> | the difference is....an order of magnitude O_o |
| 13:51 | <@scrane> | Hmm. What datacenter are you in? |
| 13:51 | <AlexMax> | ATL |
| 13:53 | <AlexMax> | now, I don't know how our old gear is laid out, but I have a suspicion that it might all be in one cabinet - so if that's the case, it might not be possible to deliver sub-ms latency |
| 14:00 | <smallclone> | AlexMax: yeah that time is definitely ungood |
| 14:00 | <smallclone> | you opened a ticket right? they should look at the host you're pinging |
| 14:00 | <smallclone> | my guess is someone is clobbering it with traffic or something |
| 14:02 | <AlexMax> | Oh, is it now... |
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| 14:03 | <smallclone> | yeah, pings on the private network shouldn't break a ms normally |
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| 14:12 | <Peng> | For me, latency in Atlanta verages about 0.4 ms. |
| 14:12 | <Peng> | averages* |
| 14:12 | <Peng> | A bit longer when NDP is necessary. |
| 14:14 | <relidy> | My average in Atlanta is a bit higher (0.6ms on average), but still well below 1ms. |
| 14:14 | <Peng> | I have a small sample size. :D |
| 14:25 | <AlexMax> | scrane: I opened a ticket |
| 14:25 | <AlexMax> | thanks smallclone Peng for your guidence and insight |
| 14:25 | <@scrane> | Awesome, thanks! Can you PM me the ticket number? |
| 14:25 | <AlexMax> | !point smallclone |
| 14:25 | <linbot> | AlexMax: Point given to smallclone. (8) |
| 14:26 | <smallclone> | no problem :) |
| 14:27 | <AlexMax> | !point Peng |
| 14:27 | <linbot> | AlexMax: Point given to peng. (20) |
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| 14:44 | <balan1800> | Hello everybody! |
| 14:45 | <balan1800> | Should not be there 1 TB of transfer available for each month per Linode ? |
| 14:45 | <smallclone> | it is prorated based on when you created the linode |
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| 14:45 | <smallclone> | since january is almost over you do not get 1TB to use in approximately 2 days |
| 14:46 | <smallclone> | however if you keep the Linode on the first of the month you'll have 1TB |
| 14:46 | <balan1800> | I have the basic one Linode 1024 |
| 14:46 | <balan1800> | I see. I have 80 GB for the moment |
| 14:47 | <balan1800> | While I should have 1 TB because it does not mention anywhere of the 1st or 2nd month |
| 14:47 | <smallclone> | no you have what you should have |
| 14:47 | <balan1800> | Honestly, the market offers unmetered ones. |
| 14:47 | <smallclone> | then buy one |
| 14:48 | <balan1800> | Look here. https://www.linode.com/pricing?gclid=EAIaIQobChMItszHs_j92AIVBUQYCh3bVQ-FEAAYASABEgKJkfD_BwE |
| 14:48 | <balan1800> | How much the transfer per month ? |
| 14:49 | <relidy> | balan1800: Did you follow the "Learn More" link? |
| 14:49 | <relidy> | https://www.linode.com/docs/platform/billing-and-payments/#transfer-proration |
| 14:50 | <smallclone> | not sure what's the sense in arguing about it. if you want to blow through 1TB in the next 2 days, just cancel your Linode. if you just made your account in the last week you can even ask for a refund. |
| 14:51 | <balan1800> | I have already used 2 GB in 5 minutes |
| 14:51 | <balan1800> | I migrating another server of 10 GB |
| 14:52 | <balan1800> | from another server |
| 14:53 | <armiller> | Well as long as you don't plan to keep migrating the same server over you'll probably be fine |
| 14:53 | <balan1800> | sorry, I am in the middle of a migration to linode :-( |
| 14:54 | <balan1800> | How can I verify that /media/sda/dev is complete of the device node entries ? |
| 14:54 | <balan1800> | What is the command ? |
| 14:54 | <smallclone> | not sure i understand the question |
| 14:54 | <balan1800> | https://www.linode.com/docs/platform/disk-images/migrating-a-server-to-your-linode/#configuring-device-nodes-via-chroot |
| 14:55 | <smallclone> | ok so you're in rescue mode |
| 14:55 | <HoopyCat> | balan1800: note that inbound (internet->linode) is not metered, so inbound data transfers won't count against that |
| 14:56 | <smallclone> | also ugh that guide needs to die or at least change |
| 14:56 | <smallclone> | well it looks like it was deprecated and i probably added that note at the top |
| 14:57 | <smallclone> | it kinda says it all |
| 14:57 | <balan1800> | Yes. I read it on top. |
| 14:57 | <balan1800> | But I think it works much better than other guides outside of Linode. |
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| 14:58 | <balan1800> | Rescue mode is saving my life |
| 14:58 | <smallclone> | the custom distro guide would almost undoubtedly serve you better, though i regret not making it more about custom iso files as opposed to installers |
| 14:58 | <smallclone> | anyway |
| 14:58 | <smallclone> | all the commands you need are there, i think |
| 14:58 | <smallclone> | in that section |
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| 14:59 | <balan1800> | It mentions "Verify that /media/sda/dev is complete by making sure that all of the device node entries listed below are present. If they aren’t, you’ll need to chroot". |
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| 15:00 | <smallclone> | ah i gotcha |
| 15:01 | <smallclone> | ls -lah /media/sda/dev |
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| 15:10 | <balan1800> | Thanks smallclone |
| 15:10 | <balan1800> | I do not see any sda, sdb with that commands |
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| 15:30 | <balan1800> | :-( the migration failed. I can not even ping to the Linode. |
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| 15:30 | <millisa> | is it powered on? |
| 15:31 | <smallclone> | balan1800: i mean, following that guide is a bit treacherous to begin with |
| 15:31 | <smallclone> | what exactly are you moving to linode? |
| 15:31 | <balan1800> | I did a complete rsync of all system to Linode |
| 15:32 | <smallclone> | right but what did you have on the machine in the first place |
| 15:32 | <balan1800> | rsync --exclude="/sys/*" --exclude="/proc/*" -aHSKDvz -e ssh / root@Linode_IP:/media/sda/ |
| 15:32 | <smallclone> | what was running on the server |
| 15:33 | <balan1800> | nothing as a 'server'.. no apache, etc. Just some configurations and applications (vncserver) as I did not want to again do all the configs |
| 15:33 | <balan1800> | on the new system |
| 15:33 | <balan1800> | exact same kernel... |
| 15:34 | <smallclone> | ehh honestly that guide is a mine field of possible problems |
| 15:41 | <balan1800> | Yes. |
| 15:42 | <balan1800> | I give up migrating. |
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| 16:23 | <Michael__> | where can I find a copy of our contract/agreement with Linode? |
| 16:24 | <Peng> | Do you mean the terms of service? https://www.linode.com/tos |
| 16:25 | <Michael__> | that's a good start! What about the agreement that results in billed amounts? |
| 16:25 | <smallclone> | you mean like, invoices? |
| 16:26 | <smallclone> | you can access them in the Linode manager |
| 16:26 | <smallclone> | https://manager.linode.com/account/billing_history |
| 16:27 | <Michael__> | thank you! |
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| 17:09 | <millisa> | PSA: Cleanup your unwanted block storage volumes. They start billing in a few days. |
| 17:10 | <AlexMax> | you mean volumes or images? |
| 17:10 | <millisa> | block storage volumes. |
| 17:10 | <smallclone> | it's a beta product that iirc is only in fremont right now |
| 17:10 | <millisa> | the ones you can see in the manager if you click the Linodes tab and goto 'Manage Volumes' |
| 17:11 | <millisa> | Well, you could have some in Newark if you got in early. |
| 17:12 | <smallclone> | millisa: did you get a ticket about it? are they bringing it out of beta / deploying it everywhere or just...charging for it now? |
| 17:12 | <millisa> | Yeah, they sent a ticket about 10 days ago and the reminder a couple days ago. The reminder came from a Linodian that I hadn't seen before. 'britchey'. I wish they were in here. I like saying their name. |
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| 17:14 | <millisa> | There's not anything account specific in it; here's a screenshot: https://ibin.co/3pubSZrYc2ru.png |
| 17:15 | <@bhanks> | yes britchey is wonderful. |
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| 17:15 | <millisa> | Even on his britchey days. |
| 17:16 | <@scrane> | britchey is the salt of the earth. |
| 17:16 | <smallclone> | heh, look at that, rmyers still doing tickets |
| 17:17 | <smallclone> | well, lists anyway. |
| 17:17 | <@scrane> | rmyers is the pepper of the earth. |
| 17:17 | <@bhanks> | rmyers is omnipotent |
| 17:18 | <smallclone> | omnipotent like a fox |
| 17:18 | <Peng> | Did rmyers and britchey draw the short straw? Who wants to write a ticket reminding people they have to pay more? :P |
| 17:18 | <Zimsky> | rmyers rmyers where are the wires? |
| 17:19 | <Zimsky> | rmyers rmyers why did you hide the wires? |
| 17:19 | <smallclone> | speaking from experience, ticket lists are generally good for your overall hively scores |
| 17:19 | <smallclone> | even when delivering kinda bad news |
| 17:19 | <Peng> | Huh. |
| 17:20 | <Zimsky> | smallclone: are foxes inherently omnipotent? |
| 17:20 | <@scrane> | Have you ever met a fox who wasn't omnipotent? |
| 17:20 | <Zimsky> | yes |
| 17:20 | <Zimsky> | I've also met a kangaroo that was not a complete arsehole |
| 17:20 | <Zimsky> | and a ferret that doesn't bite |
| 17:20 | <millisa> | It would appear we go to very different conventions. |
| 17:21 | <Zimsky> | I don't go to conventions |
| 17:21 | <Zimsky> | hey Woet, I have the flu |
| 17:21 | <Zimsky> | thanks for that |
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| 17:24 | <smallclone> | i feel like if they're going to switch on billing in 2 days they must know what block storage costs |
| 17:26 | <millisa> | the invoices have been showing volumes and hours, but they don't show the unit price is all. |
| 17:26 | <smallclone> | oh wait it's in the screenshot |
| 17:26 | <millisa> | the invoice reads a bit weird if you just sub in the $0.10 since it's not the unit x quantity since they are showing hours instead of the size. |
| 17:27 | <millisa> | I'm assuming they'll show the unit price as GBx$0.10/720 |
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| 17:28 | <Zimsky> | that's a horrid-looking equation |
| 17:28 | <millisa> | perl says it's fine. best string it's ever eaten. |
| 17:28 | <Peng> | Just say it costs 10 clouds. |
| 17:28 | <dzho> | oh no did they hire away the Verizon billing people |
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| 17:29 | <Zimsky> | dzho sounds like the type of person who would work for a telecom company |
| 17:30 | <dzho> | oh maybe this was before all y'alls time |
| 17:30 | <dzho> | https://verizonmath.blogspot.com/2006/12/verizon-doesnt-know-dollars-from-cents.html |
| 17:30 | <millisa> | I don't know if I've seen if they intend to prorate the block storage or not |
| 17:31 | <smallclone> | i would think they would so monthly costs could be consistent |
| 17:33 | <smallclone> | it'll probably follow all the same conventions of the existing billing system |
| 17:34 | <smallclone> | if so they should definitely make a cool sliding hourly price calculator thing like DO has: https://www.digitalocean.com/products/storage/ |
| 17:35 | <millisa> | one of my dec 1 invoices with some volumes: https://ibin.co/3puharJwjxwR.png |
| 17:37 | <millisa> | guess I haven't noticed that the 'quantity' column is blank for linodes that are on the whole month |
| 17:37 | <millisa> | that seems wrong. |
| 17:39 | <smallclone> | yeah once you hit the 28 day mark it just considers it the monthly cost and no longer goes by the quantity field |
| 17:39 | <millisa> | makes the invoice itself look odd though since it doesnt change the unit price |
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| 17:40 | <smallclone> | the unit price and the quantity only really come into play if you keep it less than the 28 days, though |
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| 17:43 | <millisa> | looking back through the last several invoices, the blockstores do show every single hour (so it mostly shows 720/744; and showed 721 for the daylight savings month) |
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| 18:31 | <linbot> | New news from forum: General Discussion • svensk kristen dating <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15764&p=75760#p75760> |
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| 22:00 | <abc> | hello, why i buy Toyko Server ,IP is US? |
| 22:02 | <relidy> | GeoIP databases are hardly accurate. |
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| 22:03 | <@scrane> | I have found this one to be fairly accurate: https://www.maxmind.com/en/home?rId=iplocation |
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| 22:04 | <nate> | scrane: There's few really accurate for online services |
| 22:04 | <@scrane> | This is true. I'm just speaking in general terms, and when I've compared most Linode IP addresses to their datacenters it seems to accurately reflect the information. |
| 22:04 | <nate> | abc: You're not getting the IP of a residential/home IP that's had tons of analytics/telemetry/etc applied against it to guestimate a location, you're getting the IP of a server/VPS/etc online, in which case they generally default to the general ownership details of the IP range |
| 22:05 | <nate> | in this case, Linode is located in the US, so it'll show the US :P |
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| 22:06 | <@scrane> | nate: Not always. Depends on the service. Otherwise, geolocation would show all Linode IP addresses as being located in New Jersey which isn't really the case. |
| 22:08 | <nate> | scrane: I've never really seen one that didn't outside of the old old addresses that I think were leased from someone else or something (which didn't they just finally get rid of all those?) |
| 22:08 | <@scrane> | For testing purposes, I have just created a new Linode in Tokyo 2. Its IP address is 172.105.206.154 and according to the geolocation service I linked above, the IP address is located in Shinagawa, Ehime, Japan, Asia. |
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| 22:11 | <nate> | I feel like that's a recent change, my copy, albeit an old-ish one still shows as the generic net owner info in NJ |
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| 22:16 | <@scrane> | Possibly. As I said, it depends on the service as well as how long the data has been cached for. |
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| 23:52 | <hurll> | hi mate |
| 23:54 | <hurll> | How can i access root files |
| 23:54 | <hurll> | ? |
| 23:54 | <hurll> | user id - hurllnuway |
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| 23:56 | <tinjothomasc> | is there any limit of how many domain I can host on Linode ? |
| 23:57 | <@jhaas> | hurll: this is the community chat, if you need account help you should open a ticket or e-mail support@linode.com; what's you're exact questions? |
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| 23:57 | <@jhaas> | tinjothomasc: There is no limit to the number of domains you can serve with our DNS. If you're asking about actually hosting websites, we provide unmanaged linux servers with root access. |
| 23:58 | <tinjothomasc> | Ok thank you @jhaas |
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