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| --- | Day | changed Sat Feb 03 2018 |
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| 01:42 | <Eugene> | When is the Linode parody porno coming out |
| 01:42 | <Eugene> | And will it feature hot BSD action |
| 01:44 | <Woet> | it will feature linode employees wearing just hair towels |
| 01:46 | <diveyez> | Someone tell jhaas to check PM's for intel drop ;) |
| 01:47 | <Woet> | ;) |
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| 04:09 | <Exothermal> | hello a little help: i deleted a linode and create new one but my domain is still using the ip of the old linode.. i have set the dns to the new ip but no effect. any ideas how ican go about this? |
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| 04:17 | <Guest3318> | hello a little help: i deleted a linode and create new one but my domain is still using the ip of the old linode.. i have set the dns to the new ip but no effect. any ideas how ican go about this? |
| 04:18 | <Woet> | how long did you wait? DNS is cached. |
| 04:32 | <rsdehart> | http://whatsmydns.com is what I usually use to check dns propagation |
| 04:32 | <Guest3318> | ok woet. so what do ido abt the cached dns |
| 04:32 | <Woet> | you wait. |
| 04:32 | <rsdehart> | I also use it to see what Woet is up to |
| 04:32 | <rsdehart> | obviously that's an undocumented feature |
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| 04:33 | <rsdehart> | I'm finally in print |
| 04:33 | <rsdehart> | happy day |
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| 04:37 | <Guest3318> | ok i geuss i'' have to wait then. thnks @woet |
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| 05:13 | <tuyrbo> | hlo |
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| 05:15 | <tuyrbo> | hlo |
| 05:16 | <tuyrbo> | which free panel is provided in linode vps hosting |
| 05:16 | <rsdehart> | did someone say a panel was provided for free? |
| 05:16 | <rsdehart> | if you want cpanel, you're responsible for installing it yourself |
| 05:16 | <rsdehart> | if you want it provided, you can get a managed plan for an additional $100/month on top of the regular price of the plan you choose |
| 05:17 | <rsdehart> | tuyrbo: Linode gives you a VPS with root access. The rest is up to you |
| 05:17 | <tuyrbo> | no but other hosting services are providing free control panel like vestacp directadmin etc |
| 05:18 | <rsdehart> | they're not a webhost. They're a vps provider. You get a blank slate and you can install whatever you like that doesn't break the law |
| 05:19 | <tuyrbo> | ok |
| 05:19 | <tuyrbo> | is this server requirments are there in linode |
| 05:19 | <tuyrbo> | PHP >= 5.6.4 OpenSSL PHP Extension PDO PHP Extension Mbstring PHP Extension Tokenizer PHP Extension XML PHP Extension |
| 05:19 | <rsdehart> | if you install those, they're there |
| 05:20 | <rsdehart> | you get root access and can install whatever versions of things you need |
| 05:20 | <tuyrbo> | ok thnks can i run adult websites using linode services |
| 05:21 | <rsdehart> | generally, yes https://www.linode.com/tos |
| 05:21 | <rsdehart> | It'd probably be helpful to read through that |
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| 05:22 | <rsdehart> | well alrighty then |
| 05:22 | <rsdehart> | !next |
| 05:22 | <rsdehart> | !alias next |
| 05:22 | <linbot> | Another satisfied customer! NEXT! |
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| 07:49 | <taylorbyte> | anyone using salt cloud ? was wondering if its possible to run a salt cloud master from a NATed machine / not need to specify a master ip in the minion/s, or maybe i could just use salt-ssh? |
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| 08:02 | <Zimsky> | water in clouds isn't salty |
| 08:03 | <Zimsky> | Woet: this is unacceptable |
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| 08:10 | <Yegon> | Hello Anyone |
| 08:10 | <Zimsky> | Anyone is in the loo at the moment |
| 08:10 | <Zimsky> | well, she's on the loo, not in it |
| 08:11 | <Yegon> | Come on... |
| 08:11 | <Yegon> | really!! |
| 08:11 | <Zimsky> | really |
| 08:11 | <Zimsky> | what's up |
| 08:12 | <Yegon> | I am fine me. I am new about hosting and staff...I have never hosted any website before |
| 08:13 | <Zimsky> | ok |
| 08:14 | <Yegon> | So just wondering... with Linode, I just buy their package and go to bed, or I will have a lot of work to to? |
| 08:14 | <Zimsky> | you will have a lot of work to do |
| 08:14 | <Zimsky> | it's a linux server, nothing more |
| 08:14 | <Yegon> | Ooo |
| 08:15 | <Zimsky> | you pay for the infrastructure, basically |
| 08:15 | <Zimsky> | if you want a web server, you have to configure a web server |
| 08:15 | <Zimsky> | or at least hire someone to do it for you |
| 08:15 | <Zimsky> | https://linode.com/docs/websites/hosting-a-website/ |
| 08:17 | <Yegon> | So how does on configure a web server? |
| 08:18 | <Zimsky> | have a geez at that linky winky |
| 08:18 | <Yegon> | ya... the link is kool |
| 08:18 | <Zimsky> | links are very cool. |
| 08:19 | <Zimsky> | anyway, you basically have two options |
| 08:19 | <Zimsky> | learn all the necessary stuff for hosting your site yourself |
| 08:20 | <Zimsky> | which will involve reading lots of stuff about things like linux, nginx, DNS, TLS, etc (if you want to do it right) |
| 08:20 | <Zimsky> | or you can hire someone to do it properly for you |
| 08:21 | <Yegon> | ya... becouse Linux....confusing. I am using windows 7 |
| 08:21 | <Zimsky> | there's lots of guides and reading for basically anything linux-related |
| 08:21 | <Zimsky> | the server runs linux |
| 08:21 | <Zimsky> | you don't have to run linux |
| 08:21 | <Yegon> | Ooo |
| 08:22 | <Yegon> | Linux will be on their sever on the other side...I mean Linode |
| 08:22 | <Zimsky> | well yeah |
| 08:22 | <Yegon> | Ok... |
| 08:22 | <Zimsky> | the linode server is distinct/separate from your personal computer |
| 08:23 | <Yegon> | Ooo... |
| 08:23 | <Zimsky> | ooooo indeed |
| 08:23 | <Zimsky> | wow Woet would love this |
| 08:23 | <Yegon> | Ya...hehehe |
| 08:23 | <Yegon> | Thank you for your kindness |
| 08:24 | <Yegon> | So but...Linode Hosting is legit and kool? |
| 08:24 | <Zimsky> | I don't think there's anything illegitimate about it, so sure |
| 08:24 | <Zimsky> | it's certainly kool with a k |
| 08:24 | <Zimsky> | cooler than some cool beans |
| 08:25 | <Yegon> | Perfect |
| 08:25 | <Zimsky> | linode is a better server host than most providers imo |
| 08:26 | <Yegon> | Okay...I am planning to build a website a students website |
| 08:26 | <Zimsky> | go for it lad |
| 08:26 | <Zimsky> | get all up in it |
| 08:27 | <Zimsky> | it's a good idea to just try and read as much as you can about the software you're using too |
| 08:28 | <Yegon> | on avarage 200,000 Members/ Students a month and growing, .....each student like will/may save up to 4 pictures on the website |
| 08:29 | <Yegon> | ....ya its true. ....it's a good idea to just try and read as much as you can about the software you're using too |
| 08:30 | <Yegon> | I am just wondering which p[rice is better for a start |
| 08:30 | <Yegon> | https://www.linode.com/pricing |
| 08:30 | <Zimsky> | you can upgrade and downgrade the plans whenever you please so |
| 08:31 | <Zimsky> | start at the bottom and if the resources aren't sufficient, upgrade the plan |
| 08:31 | <taylorbyte> | how do you downgrade ? |
| 08:31 | <Yegon> | ya? |
| 08:31 | <Zimsky> | probably by clicking a thing |
| 08:31 | <Yegon> | Ooo |
| 08:31 | <Zimsky> | https://linode.com/docs/platform/disk-images/resizing-a-linode/ |
| 08:31 | <Yegon> | Perfect |
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| 08:34 | <Yegon> | But...the lowest pricing can handle 10,000members per month as I do the marketing? just in case... |
| 08:34 | <Zimsky> | depends entirely on the traffic flow of your site |
| 08:35 | <Yegon> | what if the trafic is 10,000 a month? |
| 08:35 | <Zimsky> | that's a vague metric |
| 08:36 | <Yegon> | like they visiote the website and sign up as members? |
| 08:36 | <Zimsky> | because 10 000 concurrent connections for a month streaming 4K video is a lot of traffic |
| 08:36 | <Zimsky> | if it's 10 000 page requests spread evenly over a month, that's not a lot of traffic |
| 08:36 | <Yegon> | No...no videos |
| 08:37 | <Zimsky> | right, but what I'm saying is that "n users / month" is not a useful metric for how much traffic a website receives |
| 08:38 | <Zimsky> | it depends what kind of content you're serving, how long those users spend on the site (which correlates with a particular number of requests within a particular time period), peak traffic times, as well as background processing if applicable |
| 08:39 | <Zimsky> | depending on what you're trying to do, if this is intended to be a large site for a commercial purpose, you should consider hiring someone to work this out for you |
| 08:39 | <Zimsky> | because then it can be done correctly and probably save time and money in the long run |
| 08:40 | <Yegon> | Ok...you know students,...they log in, Chart spend some time on the web |
| 08:40 | <Yegon> | and other new members sign in |
| 08:41 | <Yegon> | like a month minimum 10,000 members |
| 08:41 | <Zimsky> | again, that's spurious information that doesn't really hint at the technical requirements |
| 08:42 | <Yegon> | God...Ok |
| 08:42 | <Yegon> | Then...I will start with |
| 08:43 | <Yegon> | $10/mo ($.015/hr) 2 GB RAM 1 CPU Core 30 GB SSD Storage 2 TB Transfer 40 Gbps Network In 1000 Mbps Network Out |
| 08:43 | <Yegon> | if it were you...how would you have started? |
| 08:45 | <Zimsky> | I'd start out with the smallest plan and scale up as I see fit |
| 08:45 | <Yegon> | Ok... |
| 08:46 | <Zimsky> | but once again, there's other factors |
| 08:46 | <Zimsky> | is the site going to slowly have more and more people joining it? is it going to have 10 000 people immediately start using it as soon as you launch it? |
| 08:47 | <Yegon> | Yes yes...it will Sorry for these too much question. Its a new world to me. |
| 08:47 | <Zimsky> | if it's a commercial site (or similar), as I said before, you should hire someone |
| 08:48 | <Yegon> | Ok. I take your words |
| 08:48 | <Yegon> | But there is a way to know that a website need server up grade before its too late? |
| 08:49 | <Zimsky> | that is why you would monitor performance of the server |
| 08:49 | <Zimsky> | there's software like munin to help you do this |
| 08:52 | <Yegon> | Thanks |
| 08:52 | <Yegon> | Digital Ocean have you had of it? |
| 08:52 | <Zimsky> | I personally don't like them |
| 08:53 | <Yegon> | why? |
| 08:54 | <Yegon> | Its slow? |
| 08:55 | <Zimsky> | various reasons |
| 08:55 | <Zimsky> | too tired to go into them |
| 08:55 | <Zimsky> | mainly that they're not as proactive as linode with maintaining their infrastructure and security |
| 08:56 | <Yegon> | Ok, I understand |
| 08:56 | <Yegon> | I will not use the as well. |
| 08:57 | <Zimsky> | I mean, it's your choice |
| 09:00 | <Yegon> | With linode...If at fist I paid for 1 year...and before one year is done, I want to up gared. Will I top up with less cash or they will one me to pay the money in full? |
| 09:00 | <Zimsky> | I don't really understand |
| 09:00 | <Zimsky> | sounds like something you should email them about |
| 09:01 | <Yegon> | Ya...I will ask them |
| 09:01 | <Yegon> | Thank you so much Zimsky |
| 09:02 | <Yegon> | I really appreciate |
| 09:03 | <Zimsky> | ミ▰˘◡˘▰彡 |
| 09:05 | <Yegon> | You are running your own website yourself? |
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| 09:15 | <Zimsky> | uh, I operate various things from time to time |
| 09:15 | <Yegon> | Ok..great. |
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| 09:18 | <lanky> | Hello i will like to know how many emails i can send per minute and hour with your vps plan ? |
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| 09:18 | <lanky> | just 350 ? |
| 09:19 | <Zimsky> | as many as the network interface and your software can handle |
| 09:19 | <lanky> | i will like to know if i can send more than 10k a day or so |
| 09:19 | <Zimsky> | the successful delivery of email mostly depends on the recipient's mail server |
| 09:19 | <Zimsky> | "as many as the network interface and your software can handle" |
| 09:20 | <Zimsky> | that might be 10 000/day, might be more, might be less |
| 09:20 | <lanky> | ok |
| 09:20 | <lanky> | linode network interface can send howmany ? |
| 09:21 | <Zimsky> | as many as your software can handle |
| 09:21 | <lanky> | it can handle 900k per day |
| 09:21 | <lanky> | can your network interface handle that ? |
| 09:21 | <Zimsky> | it isn't my network interface |
| 09:22 | <Zimsky> | dunno though |
| 09:22 | <Zimsky> | see how it goes? |
| 09:22 | <lanky> | i really need to give the report back o my company manager today |
| 09:23 | <Zimsky> | perhaps you should run some benchmarking tests then |
| 09:23 | <Zimsky> | if you're sending large amounts of email, maybe an actual email service would be better suited for you |
| 09:24 | <lanky> | ok |
| 09:25 | <Zimsky> | by "large", I mean exorbitantly large |
| 09:25 | <lanky> | i need just to be able to send to 5k a day |
| 09:25 | <lanky> | thats all |
| 09:26 | <Zimsky> | your problem isn't going to be whether the infrastructure can handle sending it, but rather whether your recipients' servers accept it |
| 09:26 | <Zimsky> | especially if it's marketing emails which it sounds like it is |
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| 10:14 | <linbot> | New news from forum: Web Servers and Web App Development • Why so much RAM used on website? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15771&p=75786#p75786> |
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| 13:06 | <Cromulent> | hmm if you are a sole trader how come you can get an EV SSL cert? I thought they needed to find your business in a government database or some other official database? |
| 13:09 | <Cromulent> | hm I guess a letter from HMRC saying you are self employed is acceptable |
| 13:09 | <Peng> | In some places it's really easy to register a company? |
| 13:10 | <Peng> | EV is silly though. :P |
| 13:14 | <Cromulent> | Peng: in the uk it takes about 10 minutes to register a limited liability company - it only costs £12 |
| 13:14 | <Cromulent> | you can pay by PayPal as well :P |
| 13:16 | <Peng> | Nice |
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| 13:42 | <staticsafe> | I registered my sole proprietorship for use with ARIN, online and paid like $60 to the province |
| 13:44 | <staticsafe> | which I guess means I can get a EV cert for my blog lol |
| 13:47 | <Peng> | Is your sole proprietorship called Stripe, Inc? https://stripe.ian.sh/ |
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| 13:57 | <staticsafe> | I remember reading about that |
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| 14:40 | <Eugene> | Every day I'm Linodin' |
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| 15:32 | <@bhanks> | thanks for the update Eugene |
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| 16:24 | <Eugene> | Any day |
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| 17:37 | <Guest3348> | I didn't change nick |
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| 17:38 | <Russell_R> | Hi I have an issue with logging into my server using terminal This is what I use ssh -p 30861 russell@139.162.239.41 but in the window that opens it says russell@drusoundlinode |
| 17:39 | <Russell_R> | I also see some of my folders say owner 1000 |
| 17:39 | <Russell_R> | any ideas whats going on I have also emailed support |
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| 17:41 | <Russell_R> | is this a good place to ask questions to lined employees? |
| 17:41 | <Russell_R> | Linode |
| 17:43 | <Russell_R> | Hello? |
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| 19:34 | <tharkun> | Aloha, I have a linode running the patched kernel but I get this message at the website that I should upgrade the kernel and runned the patched one. Will it silently go away or do I have to do some aditional process? |
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| 19:50 | <DD> | Is this help chat? |
| 19:50 | <@mcintosh> | tharkun: what message are you referring to? |
| 19:50 | <@mcintosh> | DD: this is community chat - but feel free to ask your question |
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| 20:34 | <rsdehart> | guess DD didn't have a question |
| 20:34 | <@mcintosh> | in fairness, "Is this help chat?" may have been his sole inquiry |
| 20:35 | <rsdehart> | I usually lump that in with the metaquestion category, but you have a point |
| 20:39 | <Ikaros> | Heh, gg, compiling a Realtek USB wifi dongle driver on my Linode (which is running a retpoline-enabled kernel), after having to manually edit the source files to fix some stupid, idiotic mistakes Realtek made in the source. I start to understand why a lot of manufacturers don't want to write new drivers for Linux. Because shit changes too damn much (read: function calls and symbol definitions) |
| 20:39 | <Ikaros> | in the kernel for them to keep up. lol. |
| 20:39 | <Ikaros> | Said driver's going to my laptop btw |
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| 20:44 | <Peng> | That's why drivers should go upstream, so the kernel maintainers can make them buggy and insecure in an API compatible way. |
| 20:48 | <Ikaros> | And my changes worked. I resolved all the problems. |
| 20:48 | <Ikaros> | :D |
| 20:48 | <Ikaros> | Laptop's happy with the driver, saw the device, init'd it correctly, and it connected happily to my wifi |
| 20:49 | <Ikaros> | The device interface names really piss me off though... |
| 20:55 | <Ikaros> | https://pastebin.com/BGT2nmTU |
| 21:02 | <Zimsky> | is this the help chat? |
| 21:02 | <Zimsky> | pls reply |
| 21:02 | <Zimsky> | this is unacceptable |
| 21:02 | <Zimsky> | i need the chainsaw |
| 21:02 | <@bhanks> | hmmm how do i ban someone |
| 21:03 | <Zimsky> | lunod b hands i ned the refud |
| 21:03 | <Zimsky> | pls reply |
| 21:03 | <Peng> | /mode +b *!*@2001:db8::1 |
| 21:03 | <Peng> | /mode +b *!*@00012fc1.user.oftc.net /mode +b linbot!*@* /msg chanserv akick #linode add linbot |
| 21:04 | <Peng> | that kind of thing |
| 21:04 | * | bhanks tries to ban self |
| 21:04 | <Zimsky> | ... lol peng |
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| 22:22 | <Woet> | Zimsky pls |
| 22:22 | <Zimsky> | pls |
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