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---Logopened Mon Feb 05 00:00:53 2018
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00:17<@bhanks>well Zimsky i guess he wasn't interested in us
00:17<techno>Hi
00:17<Zimsky>ahoy
00:17<techno>am looking for windos hosting panel
00:17<techno>have any demo panel ?
00:17<Zimsky>okay
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00:18<techno>want to be a seperete plesk panel
00:18<Zimsky>you would have to install that yourself
00:19<techno>nope need support from u
00:19<Zimsky>I don't work for linode
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01:00<support-it>hi
01:00<millisa>hi
01:00<Woet>hi
01:00<support-it>I want to ask can I deploy kali linux in linode?
01:00<Woet>https://linode.com/docs/tools-reference/custom-kernels-distros/install-a-custom-distribution-on-a-linode/
01:02<support-it>thank you @Woet
01:02<Zimsky>begs the question though
01:02<Zimsky>...why would you install kali on a linode?
01:03<millisa>for the street cred.
01:03<millisa>for the children.
01:04<Woet>pretty sure they already gave up when they saw how long the tutorial is
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01:17<IT>Hello
01:17<millisa>Hi
01:17<IT>Hi millisa
01:17<millisa>Hi IT
01:17<Zimsky>ahoy
01:17<IT>I was wondering if you can help me? One of my website is currently downloading instead of displaying the page.
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01:17<Zimsky>fix your mime types
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01:18<IT>I already did the mime types but still failed to fix my problem.
01:18<millisa>Did it used to work? Did something change?
01:18<Zimsky>well, content types
01:18<IT>Addtype and Addhandler right?
01:18<Zimsky>no idea
01:18<IT>what do you mean by content types?
01:18<Zimsky>request the page with curl and also display the headers
01:19<Zimsky>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_type
01:19<Zimsky>check what the content type is in the received headers
01:19<darya>Hi! I have 20 servers and can't create 21.. message - "Account Limit reached. Please open a support ticket.", placed a ticket but as far as I understand reaction is currently very slow from support..Any recomendations? Thank you!
01:19<Zimsky>should be like text/html
01:19<millisa>darya: you could always give them a call
01:20<Woet>darya: what is your definition of "very slow"?
01:20<Woet>darya: like 30 minutes?
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01:20<Zimsky>give 'em a tinkle on the ol' dog and bone
01:20<darya>like currently half a day
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01:20<darya>previous ticket - 2 days
01:21<Zimsky>if it's super important, telephone them
01:21<Woet>that doesnt seem very slow, most ISPS take ~ 5 days at best
01:21<Woet>and their prices are like 10 times linode's
01:21<Zimsky>Woet: ISPs are arse though
01:21<Woet>so are you
01:21*Zimsky shrug
01:21<Zimsky>it's a doggie dog world
01:21*Woet hands Zimsky a "s"
01:21<darya>ok, thank you, will call than, have a good day)
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01:22*Zimsky hands Woet an 'n'
01:22<Zimsky>get your articles right
01:22<Zimsky>don't throw stones in glass houses
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01:26<IT>Hi Zimsky, already got your point regarding mime types but I have no idea what this is. Are you referring that my problem to one of my server is not pointing out the .htacess or httpd.conf?
01:27<Zimsky>usually the reason a web page begins downloading instead of displaying in a browser, is because the web server is reporting the incorrect content type
01:27<Zimsky>regular old web pages with html and stuff on them should have a content type of text/html
01:27<Zimsky>but if your browser is downloading it, it could be something like application/octet-stream
01:27<Zimsky>you need to troubleshoot that and work out what the web server is sending your browser
01:28<Zimsky>you should also, if not already, try different browsers and check other parts of the website
01:28<Zimsky>perhaps, like millisa said, think back to when it was working correctly and maybe undo some changes to see what might've caused it
01:31<Zimsky>if you run `curl -I <url>` in a terminal, you can see the headers for the page
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01:33<IT>Hi Zimsky, already try this curl -I
01:34<IT>Content-Type text/html charset=UTF-8
01:34<Zimsky>then your issue is elsewhere
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01:49<Schroeder>god
01:49<Schroeder>the Philly police scanner is fucking crazy
01:50<joecool|mobile>Oh it's still going?
01:50<millisa>https://www.broadcastify.com/listen/feed/4603
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01:51<Schroeder>yup
01:51<Schroeder>probably going to be going on in the morning when I wake up
01:58<ericoc>it’s amazing
01:58<Woet>why cant people behave
01:58<Woet>https://twitter.com/NFL_Access/status/960376664948707328
01:58<Woet>wtf is this shit
01:58<ericoc>the screaming outside my apartment mostly stopped but not the honking
02:00<millisa>Did you happen to catch the professional football contest on television last night? The Eagles of Philadelphia took on the Patriots of New England. And in the end, the Eagles triumphed by kicking an oblong ball made of pigskin through a big H. It was a most ripping victory.
02:01<Woet>you mean handegg?
02:02<ericoc>first time eagles have ever won a Super Bowl, people are pretty amped
02:04<Schroeder>"handegg" is such a stupid and uninformed meme
02:04<Schroeder>it's called "football" for the same reason every other football game (such as rugby, association, Australian, Gaelic, etc.) is called that
02:04<Schroeder>because it's played on foot
02:04<Schroeder>as opposed to, say, horseback
02:05<Woet>its not a ball tho
02:05<Woet>and most games are played on foot
02:05<Woet>are you gonna call hockey "footpuck" or what
02:05<joecool|mobile>Why don't they call polo horseball
02:05<Schroeder>Woet: all squares are rectangles, but not all rectangles are squares
02:05<Schroeder>it's the same sort of thing
02:06<millisa>curling = ice rocking, right?
02:06<Woet>ericoc: yea i also destroy peoples cars when i'm amped
02:06<Schroeder>all modern football codes are descended from a medieval game that had elements of running, kicking, throwing, etc. and that was termed "football"
02:06<Woet>oh wait no i dont
02:06<joecool|mobile>millisa: sweepstone
02:07<millisa>Broomslippy
02:07<millisa>I wonder how much of this excitement is observable from the new Linode office
02:07<joecool|mobile>Did they grease the new office?
02:07*Woet greases bmartin
02:08<ericoc>new Linode office isn’t close to broad st
02:08<Woet>all the linode employees are hiding in the vault
02:08<Schroeder>could someone explain for me
02:08<Schroeder>why is hydraulic fluid supposed to work better than crisco?
02:08<joecool|mobile>Prime for looting, gonna get all the chairs
02:09<millisa>dot probably has one on hand for the heavy equipment
02:09<ericoc>Linode office is at least a dozen blocks from the action
02:09<joecool|mobile>Schroeder: brake fluid? Probably cause it stains and eats into stuff
02:09<joecool|mobile>Way more of a deterrent
02:09<millisa>oh my - https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Ritz-Carlton-Awning-With-Eagles-Fans-On-Top-Collapses-472678673.html
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02:13<FluffyFoxeh>hope they all died
02:13<FluffyFoxeh>:3
02:14<@bhanks>Woet why are you greasing linode employees
02:14<@bhanks>haven't we talked about this
02:14<Woet>bhanks: not that i recall
02:15<@bhanks>consider this our talk about it
02:15<Woet>bhanks: are you jealous I picked bmartin over you?
02:15<@bhanks>absolutely not
02:15<Woet>i have some left
02:15*Woet suits up
02:15<@bhanks>im not a jealous girl!
02:16<Woet>bhanks: please sign this liability waiver
02:16<@bhanks>I shall not
02:17<Woet>you're very litigious, i can't grease without it
02:17<Zimsky>>litigious
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02:18<Zimsky>bhanks: it's okay. we have a victim support group for these kinds of incidents
02:19<joecool|mobile>B A C H
02:19<@bhanks>> litigious
02:19<@bhanks>i like it
02:19<@bhanks>very Trust & Safety-ish
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02:24<lee7cn>hello?
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02:25<lee7cn>anyboby?
02:25<millisa>everybody!
02:25<Zimsky>ALL OF THEM
02:26<FluffyFoxeh>the peeps
02:26<lee7cn>Why did you cancel my account?
02:26<Zimsky>I did no such thing
02:26<Zimsky>but you should probably call or email linode
02:26<millisa>Maybe check your email, too
02:26<Zimsky>nonsense
02:27<Zimsky>checking emails never did anyone any good
02:27<Zimsky>that's how WWII started
02:27<lee7cn>yes ,i did
02:28<lee7cn>Sorry, my English is very bad
02:28<lee7cn>I paid 5 dollars a few days ago
02:29<Zimsky>you should probably call or email linode
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02:30<lee7cn>can i have linode‘s e-mail
02:31<millisa>!contact
02:31<linbot>https://www.linode.com/contact
02:31<lee7cn>Can not find on the website
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02:31<millisa>You don't see 'Email Us' on that page?
02:32<Zimsky>Woet probably stole his glasses
02:32<lee7cn>I tried this link, but did not show the email address
02:33<lee7cn>i am from china
02:33<Zimsky>ni hao
02:33<iSRAELi>holla
02:33<Zimsky>palestine forever
02:34<lee7cn>oh, brother
02:34<lee7cn>~!~
02:35<millisa>https://ibin.co/3qdRWv7N2R58.png
02:36<Zimsky>still can't see it, millisa
02:36<lee7cn>yes
02:36<Zimsky>millisa: can you put an arrow to it?
02:36<lee7cn>I tried this link address
02:37<millisa>Zimsky: https://ibin.co/3qdS7lIyhjsw.png
02:37<Zimsky>millisa: still can't find it
02:37<Zimsky>maybe circle it?
02:38<lee7cn>thanks
02:38<lee7cn>I saw your picture
02:40<millisa>Zimsky: circled a few of them https://ibin.co/3qdSw1rjMijL.png
02:40<millisa>lee7cn: you really don't see the email address when you use the email us links on that page?
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02:43<lee7cn>I saw it, but nothing happened when I clicked it
02:43<joecool|mobile>Great firewall
02:43<millisa>the email is support@linode.com
02:43<lee7cn>Maybe the window is blocked
02:43<lee7cn>THS
02:43<millisa>could be.
02:44<joecool|mobile>Would not be surprised if China sees linode as 'illegal vpn company'
02:44<lee7cn>thank you very much
02:44<FluffyFoxeh>joecool|mobile: are you saying it's not?
02:44<millisa>would definitely be interesting since it looked like a vultr ip they came in from
02:45<joecool|mobile>Ah thats just competitors being competitors
02:45<FluffyFoxeh>(/s)
02:45<lee7cn>I must send them an email, sorry, I will leave for a while
02:45<millisa>alrighty then
02:45<Woet>i forgive you
02:46<joecool|mobile>Choopa gonna choop
02:48<abrining>yeah, nobody really knows how China decides what to block and what not to block. Sometimes it seems a bit arbitrary.
02:48<Woet>Zimsky is blocked from China as we speak
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02:50<joecool|mobile>abrining: uses algorithmic machine learning in addition to manual rules
02:51<joecool|mobile>So it can 'guess' if something is vpn and get it wrong
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02:51<joecool|mobile>Anyone using service there has to change configuration frequently
03:04<lee7cn>i'm back ~.~
03:05<lee7cn>It seems that you know China well
03:06<millisa>I can locate it on a map if it's right side up about half the time.
03:06<joecool|mobile>lee7cn: I don't, just had a friend there that documented his attempts to stay connected
03:08<lee7cn>that'S GOOD
03:08<lee7cn>millisa:If you come to Beijing, I can invite you to really the Great Wall
03:08<Woet>can you move it to the mexican border instead
03:08<millisa>It's odd how it probably has gotten more people into china than kept them out.
03:13<lee7cn>millisa :Thank you for your help, if you like I can send China's specialty to you,@_@
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03:21<FluffyFoxeh>I used my Linode to give me an IPv6 address at home http://www.fastquake.com/images/screen-homeipv6-20180203-182856.png
03:23<lee7cn>then what do you want to say
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03:31<FluffyFoxeh>I'm glad Linode has such good IPv6 support :D
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04:02<linbot>New news from forum: Email/SMTP Related Forum • Hours Delay "Linode Events Notification" <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15773&p=75789#p75789>
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04:22<linbot>New news from forum: Email/SMTP Related Forum • Proper TXT record for domain and gmail server. <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15772&p=75791#p75791> || Email/SMTP Related Forum • Hours Delay "Linode Events Notification" <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15773&p=75790#p75790>
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04:32<linbot>New news from forum: Email/SMTP Related Forum • Proper TXT record for domain and gmail server. <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15772&p=75792#p75792>
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05:00<grawity>FluffyFoxeh: how do you handle /80-sized subnets on a LAN
05:00<grawity>static addresses? dhcp?
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06:52<Zimsky>Woet the great
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07:26<Linode>Hello
07:27<@bmartin>Hello there
07:27<Yaakov>HELLO
07:27<Zimsky>OH GOD
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07:27<Guest3461>Oops sorry.
07:27<Guest3461>My bad.
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07:28<Guest3461>Hello hehe
07:28<Yaakov>HELLO
07:29<Guest3461>Hi Yaakov, I was wondering if you can guide me regarding my newly created linode? I'm done creating it but when I traceroute going to the server it seems that it has been cut.
07:29<Zimsky>yeah Yaakov
07:30<Yaakov>Sounds like your networking is not properyl configured. Did you use the how-to's in the Linode Library?
07:33<Yaakov>HELLO
07:35<Guest3461>Hi Yaakov, it seems that this is outside of our border since it passed our network. I can't connect nor ssh my newly created server
07:35<Zimsky>more like properyl trichloroacetate
07:35<Guest3461>I also try using Launch Lish Console
07:36<Yaakov>NO DANGEROUS CHEMICALS
07:36<Guest3461>but apparently netstat -plntu is not recognized as command
07:36<Zimsky>it's a very safe chemical, like sodium chlorate
07:36<Yaakov>If you type "which netstat" what does it say?
07:36<grawity>what OS are you trying to run that on,
07:36<grawity>and why would netstat help with traceroute anyway
07:37<Guest3461>OS: CentOS 7
07:37<Guest3461>I just try some suggestion from Linode bot.
07:37<Yaakov>Try sudo ifconfig
07:37<Zimsky>netstat can expose routing tables
07:38<Zimsky>s/expose/dump/
07:38<grawity>yeah but not with those options
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07:38<grawity>Guest3461: try `ss -plntu` for the same information
07:39<Guest3461>`sudo ifconfig`, `ss -plntu` - unknown command
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07:39<Yaakov>Are you root?
07:39<Guest3461>yes
07:39<Yaakov>If so, just ifconfig
07:40<grawity>`ip addr`, `ip route`
07:41<Rainbow>better yet
07:41<Rainbow>try running FreeBSD
07:41<Rainbow>:D
07:41<Zimsky>:D
07:41<Rainbow>:D
07:41<Zimsky>Rainbow: can we be friends
07:42<Rainbow>Zimsky, aren't we already?
07:42<Zimsky>idk maybe
07:42<Yaakov>HELLO
07:42<Zimsky>sure why not
07:42<Rainbow>woo
07:42<Rainbow>Zimsky, i take it you like FreeBSD? :p
07:42<Zimsky>nothing important I run uses anything but
07:42<Zimsky>that sentence was poorly constructed
07:43<Zimsky>yes
07:43<Rainbow>:DDD
07:43<Zimsky>why use zfsonlinux when you can use real zfs?
07:44<Rainbow>afuckinmen
07:44<Rainbow>also
07:44<Rainbow>OHAI i'm a port maintainer :D
07:44<grawity>Zimsky: you mean on Solaris?
07:44<Zimsky>grawity: yes, definitely.
07:45<Yaakov>I ran FreeBSD from a Walnut Creek CD-ROM... I used it for many years before I used any Linux. FreeBSD and Solaris.
07:45<Zimsky>I am aware where you're going with this
07:45<Zimsky>don't ruin it
07:45<Rainbow>o.o;
07:45<Zimsky>I don't dislike linux
07:45<Zimsky>fbsd is just better
07:45<Rainbow>Zimsky,
07:45<Rainbow>you use zvols alot?
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07:45<Yaakov>I still have an SS 10.
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07:46<Zimsky>nope
07:46<Rainbow>gay
07:46<Rainbow>they rule
07:46<Rainbow>Zimsky,
07:46<Zimsky>Rainbow:
07:47<Rainbow>help me harass Linode into supporting FreeBSD
07:47<@bmartin>┐('~`)┌
07:47<Zimsky>mcintosh; do the thing
07:47<Zimsky>bmartin: do the thing
07:47<Zimsky>thanks
07:47*bmartin is the Linode equivalent to a valet
07:47<Rainbow>jesus
07:47<Rainbow>i barely recognize any of the staff names anymore
07:47<Zimsky>a valet can still grab the keys and steal all the cars though
07:47<@bmartin>They only recently let me use computers
07:48<Yaakov>I guess the first time I used FBSD was in '93... 25 years ago.
07:48<@bmartin>I used to dictate my IRC statements to an intern
07:48<Yaakov>HELLO BMARTIN
07:48*Rainbow sighs
07:48<Rainbow>how times have changed
07:48<@gjjansen>I know I'm opening Pandora's box by asking but what makes FreeBSD cooler than Linux?
07:48<Yaakov>I LOVE YOU ALL WITH A GREAT HUGE LOVE
07:49<Rainbow>EVERYTHING
07:49<Rainbow>no but like
07:49<Rainbow>lots tho
07:49<Zimsky>the fact that you can't understand it means you're not worthy, gjjansen
07:49<Rainbow>So, unlike Linux, FreeBSD is a singular OS, all cozy in a single source tree
07:49<Yaakov>gjjansen: It's UNIX.
07:49<@gjjansen>I know ZFS is nice.
07:49<Rainbow>not cobbled together from disparate parts like linux
07:49<Rainbow>everything is meant to work together
07:49<grawity>oh you mean like systemd
07:49<@gjjansen>:smirk:
07:49<Zimsky>oh fuck off
07:49*Rainbow stabs grawity
07:49*bmartin is cobbled together from disparate parts
07:49<Rainbow>anyway
07:50<Rainbow>so that means added stability
07:50<Rainbow>but also increased visibility on the code during an audit
07:50<Rainbow>and also
07:50<@gjjansen>I've heard security types talk about it a bunch
07:50<Rainbow>you can svn checkout the OS all the way back to 93
07:50<Yaakov>I think I will just switch to Plan 9.
07:51<@bmartin>from outer space?
07:51<Yaakov>Yes, that's the one.
07:52<Zimsky>feels like I'm being stabbed from the centre of my brain outward
07:52<Rainbow>also
07:52<Zimsky>and that's not just because I'm scrolled to the bottom of the nicklist and can see Woet's nick
07:52<Rainbow>FreeBSD keeps 3rd [party software in its own prefix
07:52<Rainbow>all unde r/usr/local
07:52<Rainbow>so
07:52<Yaakov>Who is in there, Zimsky?
07:52<Rainbow>installing libressl from ports wont buttfuck OpenSSL's version in base
07:52<Rainbow>that kinda stuff
07:53<Zimsky>Yaakov: a little man called increased ICP
07:53<Rainbow>also
07:53<Rainbow>we have a better networking stack than Linux
07:53<Rainbow>by like
07:53<Yaakov>I like ports.
07:53<Rainbow>super lots
07:53<Rainbow>also
07:53<Rainbow>we have a Linux ABI Compat Layer
07:53<Rainbow>so like
07:53<Zimsky>I find freebsd ports are more up to date than linux ports
07:53<Zimsky>er
07:53<Zimsky>than software in debian repos*
07:53<Rainbow>commercial software that only distributes a linux binary?
07:53<@gjjansen>Sounds like Nix, keeping stuff in a separate fancy folder.
07:53<Rainbow>fuck you we can run it
07:53<Zimsky>I can't think
07:54<Yaakov>I use MacPorts pretty happily.
07:54<Rainbow>gjjansen, god no
07:54<Rainbow>very different
07:54<Zimsky>but that's more of a reflection on port maintainers
07:54<Rainbow>gjjansen, also we're older than Linux
07:54<Rainbow>also we dont have Not Invented Here Syndrome
07:55<Rainbow>and don't claim to have invented something that existed 19 years prior
07:55<Rainbow>example
07:55<Rainbow>linux blowing itself over docker
07:55<Rainbow>when freebsd invented containers in 1998
07:55<@gjjansen>LOL
07:55<Rainbow>:p
07:55<Zimsky>I'm laughing maniacally
07:55<Rainbow>on that note
07:55<Zimsky>"linux blowing itself over docker"
07:55<Rainbow>I might be going to work for docker on their security team
07:55<@gjjansen>That's awesome!
07:56<Rainbow>they all find it hilarious how much i hate docker
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07:56<Rainbow>and want me to work for them anyway
07:56<Woet>can you guys stop going off-topic
07:56<Woet>linode only please
07:56<Woet>tia
07:56<Rainbow>NO
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07:56<Zimsky>Rainbow: this is why I don't like Woet
07:56<Rainbow>i dont even know who that is
07:56<Zimsky>good
07:56<Rainbow>or i dont remember
07:56*Rainbow shrugs
07:57<Rainbow>but i digress
07:57<@gjjansen>I don't really understand Docker but it seems almost like the full system equivalent of Python's virtualenvs.
07:57<Rainbow>@Woet, this has almost always been mostly a shoot the shit channel
07:57<Woet>not on my watch
07:57<Rainbow>and maybe help the noobs when they pop in
07:57<Woet>thats offensive
07:57*Rainbow shrugs
07:57<@bmartin>( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
07:57<Rainbow>look at all the fucks I give.
07:57*Zimsky hands Woet an "'"
07:57<Yaakov>I, for one, have NEVER been off-topic in this channel.
07:57<Woet>(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ THIS IS RIDICULOUS
07:57<Yaakov>EVER.
07:57<Rainbow>see? see how many there are?
07:58<Rainbow>THE FIELD IN WHICH I GROW MY FUCKS IS BARREN
07:58<Rainbow>WE'RE GOING TO LOSE OUR FUCK FARM D:
07:58<@bmartin>You have to water them
07:58*Rainbow cries
07:58<Zimsky>you have to fuck your farms?
07:58<Zimsky>er
07:58<Zimsky>farm your fucks*
07:58<@bmartin>if you do not maintain your farm
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07:58<@bmartin>it will become barren
07:58<Zimsky>I'm already barren
07:58*bmartin is helping noob farmers
07:58<@gjjansen>My mom plays Farmville. Always invites me on Facebook.
07:58<@gjjansen>I had to block her.
07:59<@bmartin>I declined my mom's request to say I'm her son on facebookj
07:59<@bmartin>SAVAGERY
07:59<Rainbow>wut
07:59<Rainbow>are you secretly her daughter?
07:59<Yaakov>I'm just not on Facebook at all.
07:59<Rainbow>JUST BE YOU bmartin
07:59<Rainbow>WE'RE ALL LOVING AND SUPPORTIVE HERE
07:59<@bmartin>I'm only on it to run my non profit animal rescue. It's a good tool to advertise the dogs and cats
07:59<Rainbow>EXCEPT AKERL. FUCK THAT GUY
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07:59<Zimsky>oh I forget akerl is a thing
08:00<Rainbow>its 0500 and i havent slept yet
08:00<Rainbow>so
08:00<Yaakov>akerl is a fine young man.
08:00<Woet>The date & time is currently: Monday, 5 February 2018 at 21:00:07
08:00<Rainbow>im quite loopy
08:00<Zimsky>when did you last sleep?
08:00<Rainbow>iunno
08:00<Rainbow>a few days ago?
08:00<@bmartin>Sleep is overrated
08:00<@bmartin>caffeine is my blood
08:00<Zimsky>why not amphetamines
08:00<Rainbow>THERE IS TOO MUCH BLOOD IN MY CAFFIENE STREAM
08:01<@gjjansen>I need a coffee on break.
08:01<@bmartin>You should get an additional coffee
08:01<@bmartin>for your bearded colleague
08:01<Woet>bhanks wants coffee?
08:01<@gjjansen>Rainbow: I don't think you need anymore caffeine.
08:02<Zimsky>you need amphetamines
08:02<Rainbow>i need crank
08:02<@gjjansen>...oh god no
08:02<Rainbow>in my eyes.
08:02<@bmartin>This channel really is a tour de force
08:02<Rainbow>oh god now my eyes hurt
08:03<Rainbow>thinking about needles in the eyes
08:03<Rainbow>FUCK
08:03<Zimsky>ooooh those are fun
08:03<Zimsky>I want to do one of those procedures at some point
08:03*Rainbow is now listening to The Reptilian Agenda by B. Dolan
08:03<Rainbow>early morning hunderhround gipop
08:04<Yaakov>Hey, I made this for caker a long time ago: https://kovaya.com/p/gbtw.gif
08:04<Rainbow>I made a cake for caker once
08:05<Yaakov>Seems redundant.
08:05<Rainbow>everyone else ate it and i didnt even get a piece :c
08:05<@bmartin>I've been pushing hard for a FaceCake caker...FaceCaker
08:05<Zimsky>did you lick the spoon?
08:06<Rainbow>i don't lick spoons, I lick....okay no no, need to keep it PG.
08:06*Rainbow coughs
08:06<Rainbow>ANYWAY.
08:06<Zimsky>you need to keep it PG?
08:06<Rainbow>Zimsky, i hear discussing lesbian exploits in tech chats is just mean.
08:06<Zimsky>do you lick FORKS?
08:07<Zimsky>Rainbow: idk, I do that all the time
08:07<Zimsky>maybe not /all/ the time
08:07<Rainbow>heh
08:07<Zimsky>sometimes?
08:07<Rainbow>let me rephrase
08:08<Rainbow>discussing lesbian exploits as one of the participating parties in question
08:08<Zimsky>same
08:08<Zimsky>let's discuss intraocular biopsies though
08:08*Rainbow blinks
08:08<Rainbow>EXCUSE ME
08:08<Zimsky>nooo, don't blink
08:08<Zimsky>you can't blink past the needle anyway
08:08<Zimsky>:D
08:08<Rainbow>are you saying you are Homogayus Womanus?
08:09<Rainbow>...
08:09<Zimsky>that's racist
08:09*Rainbow pukes
08:09<Rainbow>fucking hell, no more needles
08:09<Rainbow>how is...wat.
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08:09<Rainbow>im far too tired and far too drunk to grok how
08:10<Zimsky>always use a gauge 7 needle
08:10<Rainbow>no no
08:10<Rainbow>6g
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08:12<Yaakov>I particularly don't like injections. Very don't like, a lot.
08:12<Zimsky>how many injections have you had?
08:12<Yaakov>As few as possible.
08:12<Yaakov>But more than I wanted.
08:12<Zimsky>that's between 0 and ∞
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08:13<Yaakov>I can't readily relate the intesnity with with I respond (negatively) to being puntured or otherwise having the integrity of my flesh breached.
08:14<@bmartin>do tattoos and piercings count or are we talking medical
08:14<Zimsky>in my experience, it depends whether you work in medicine
08:14<Zimsky>or are a heroin addict
08:15<Zimsky>they always make the best phlebotomists
08:15<Yaakov>Mine is a genuine phobia. Utterly irrational. I would rather suffer the pain of a kidney stone than get an IV for the morphine. I have to be orally dosed with Atavan before I can tolerate the poke.
08:15<dzho>sorry, dude
08:15<Zimsky>apology accepted
08:15<dzho>heh
08:15<Yaakov>bmartin: I have no ink, nor any desire to change that--so...
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08:16<Yaakov>Howdy, dzho.
08:16<dzho>hi!
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08:16<dzho>giving blood, even small quantities for tests and such, has never gone well for me.
08:16<Yaakov>bmartin: Nor am I pierced and yes, that would be an example of something I would never do.
08:17<Zimsky>Yaakov: that's quite a serious phobia
08:17<Yaakov>I really wish I didn't have this problem, it's very inconvenient.
08:17<dzho>again, completely visceral reaction to the process, something I could probably only override, if at all, by ... what is the therapy where you get exposed to something just to desensitize you?
08:17<Yaakov>Zimsky: It is, indeed.
08:17<Yaakov>Systematic desensitization.
08:18<Zimsky>I draw my own blood for testing
08:18<Zimsky>it's not so bad after a while
08:18<Yaakov>My response is completely irrational. It's not about pain, it's about the act of breaching my skin. After that, all is fine.
08:19<Yaakov>I might actually be more able to poke myself than have others do it, but only margiunally.
08:19<Rainbow>Yaakov, its okay. i have enough piercings for us both
08:19<Yaakov>Rainbow: Thank you for taking up the slack.
08:19<Zimsky>do you share?
08:19*Rainbow has 27
08:20<Yaakov>I tried to pierce my hand on a coathook the other day.
08:20<Yaakov>It didn't get all the way through, though...
08:20<Zimsky>...why?
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08:27<@bmartin>¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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08:28<Yaakov>Zimsky: Well, to be honest, I fell down the stairs and in trying to stabilize myself, I reached out and found a previously borken coathook.
08:28<Zimsky>oh you didn't have intent
08:28<Yaakov>It is now a slightly painful lump of scar tissue, far less ugly than it started out but far from pretty.
08:29<Yaakov>No, I would have avoided it if I'd been aware of what I was doing.
08:29<Zimsky>most unfortunate
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08:29<tomtomtom>hi - can anyone clarify the situation on linode billing VAT in the UK? I'm a long term customer, and have registered my VAT number in the account settings page, however, I'm unsure if my invoices effectively should include VAT but don't because I am registered. Basically - I need to know if I should be including these invoices on my VAT return?
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08:29<Yaakov>Zimsky: I have a photo of it, but it's really not a nice thing to look at.
08:30<@jackley>tomtomtom: we aren't yet collecting VAT, but we will in the future.
08:30<Zimsky>Yaakov: I work in medicine
08:30<Zimsky>if anything I'd be indifferent
08:30<Yaakov>Well, if you are interested in the damage, I can show you.
08:30<tomtomtom>@jacklery thanks
08:30*Zimsky shrug
08:31<Zimsky>jackley: support freebsd pls
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08:31<@jackley>Zimsky: we aren't yet supporting FreeBSD, but we may in the future.
08:31<Zimsky>but pls
08:31<Zimsky>;_;
08:31<Zimsky>Rainbow: I tried
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08:34<Yaakov>Hello, jackley.
08:34<Yaakov>How's stuff at Linode Central Command?
08:35<@bmartin>Icy. Dangerous. Philly Sports Riots have claimed a number of lives.
08:35<@jackley>v cloudy today
08:35*bmartin is kidding but it is icy
08:35<Yaakov>It's snowy here. I hate it.
08:35<Zimsky>!wx UEEE
08:35<linbot>Zimsky: [metar] OBS at UEEE: -43.6F/-42C, visibility 0400 miles, wind 2.24 mph, chill N/A (altimeter: 30.445412473) [UEEE 051300Z 02001MPS 0400 0300NE R23L/0800D FG NSC M42/M47 Q1031 R23L/490150]
08:36<Zimsky>ooft
08:37<Yaakov>I'd better eat something.
08:37<Yaakov>I LOVE YOU ALL WITH A GREAT HUGE LOVE
08:38<Yaakov>Stay safe, warm, and lovely!
08:40<Rainbow>dayum
08:40<Rainbow>straight up ignored
08:41<@bmartin>We love you too Yaakov
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08:41<@bmartin>with the fire of 1000 Suns
08:41<Rainbow>man, that's funny.
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08:41<Zimsky>what's funny?
08:42<Rainbow>eh, dont worry about it. i'm headed to bed. need to try and sleep .
08:42<Rainbow>key word is try.... >.> sleep is hard to come by for me thrse days
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08:43<Zimsky>it helps to get off IRC first
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08:43<Rainbow>lol
08:43<Rainbow>I've been out in my car programming since....uh....
08:43<Zimsky>in your car?
08:43<Rainbow>the last 8 hours or so?
08:43<Rainbow>yeah. cant smoke in the apartment
08:44<Rainbow>gotta love silicon valley
08:44<Zimsky>🚬
08:44<Rainbow>everyone's so uptight
08:44<Rainbow>but
08:44<Rainbow>i get to make more money than god
08:44<Rainbow>so its cool i guess
08:45*Rainbow yawns. okay. sleep time. ciao!
08:47<Zimsky>sayonara
08:47<Woet>shut up Zimsky
08:49<Zimsky>Woet: je bent een varkensneuker
08:49<Woet>!ops
08:49<linbot>Users with ops are employees of Linode, and know what they're talking about. The rest of us are the ever-so-helpful(?) community. Official Linode contact information: https://www.linode.com/contact
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09:55<hybrid>Does anybody have some information on GDPR and Linode?
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10:33<AlexMax>So, migrations don't ever ever ever change IP's, do they?
10:33<AlexMax>like, migration upgrading to a new server plan?
10:33<AlexMax>Also, how are backups effected?
10:34<smallclone>IPs would only change if you move to a different data center
10:35<smallclone>changing plan size / migrating to a new host for whatever reason wouldn't affecrt your IP. your backups pricing is tied to the size of your plan, so that changes
10:35<AlexMax>well, what happens to the existing backups?
10:35<smallclone>the backups aren't affected
10:36<smallclone>they're on separate infrastructure within the DC where your Linode resides
10:36<AlexMax>gotcha
10:37<smallclone>so as long as the migration is within the same DC you still have them
10:37<AlexMax>that's what I thought
10:37<AlexMax>but I just wanted to 2x check
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10:46<Eugene>Every day I'm Linodin'
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11:18<dubidub>Linode don't DKIM sign their emails.
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11:23<Eugene>X-Mailer: ColdFusion 11 Application Server
11:30<dubidub>It's done with the mail server not the MUA.
11:32<dubidub>The one I got from support@linode.com says X-Mailer: Never Gonna Give You Up.
11:37<Eugene>This is from an Invoice, which is (AFAICT) still running the legacy ColdFusion codebase. My point was more: yes, of course they haven't gotten to DKIM yet. Their accounting software is still written in CF
11:41<dubidub>ok :)
11:42<dubidub>But it's increasingly important due to aggressive filtering.
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12:40<Eugene>You should tell staff that in a ticket
12:40<Eugene>I agree with you completely ;-)
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13:15<ezequielbruni>Hello. I'm thinking about getting my first VPS. Anyone have time for dumb questions?
13:16<ezequielbruni>I'm considering getting a VPS so I can learn more about server management, and to host my portfolio site. But I'm concerned about security. Some VPS solutions seem to have customers handle security on their own servers, and man I don't think I have the time for that. That's a whole other industry to learn.
13:22<dzho>ezequielbruni: well, it comes down to time or money
13:22<dzho>shared hosting might be what you want
13:22<dzho>(which is, generally speaking, not what linode offers directly, though linode customers probably resell it)
13:23<ezequielbruni>Fair enough. And it might. Too bad there's no "in-between" sort of service that I can find.
13:23<dzho>well, shared hosting *is* in between
13:23<dzho>security has many layers, and you can still screw up shared hosting, just less of it :-)
13:24<linbot>New news from forum: Email/SMTP Related Forum • Proper TXT record for domain and gmail server. <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15772&p=75793#p75793>
13:25<ezequielbruni>Alright. I'm looking into managed VPS services now. I'll see what happens from there, if anything. Thanks for the info.
13:25<dzho>ezequielbruni: depending on how much you value the opportunity to learn, a year of the lowest linode plan *could* be well worth the money in the opportunity it gives you to manage a host out there For Real Live On The Internet
13:25<dzho>it's just I wouldn't necessarily stake my whole reputation on it
13:25<ezequielbruni>Understood.
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13:42<asad_>hey r u there?
13:42<@bmartin>Hello asad_ how can we help
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13:43<asad_>hi i wanna publish my django app so i would like to know which of your plans support django ? and i will appreciate if you mention about postgresql thanks
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14:46<dubidub>on CentOS does /etc/hostname contain the FQDN?
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16:51<T_>My node has gone offline and can't even be rebooted. How can I get immediate help?
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16:56<FluffyFoxeh>no carrier
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17:10<G00FBALL>hello
17:10<G00FBALL>i was looking at the Linode 4GB $20/mo plan and had a few questions
17:11<G00FBALL>can i transfer domain and emails ?
17:12<FluffyFoxeh>You can use Linode's DNS servers and DNS manager, but they are not a domain registrar
17:12<FluffyFoxeh>And if you want to host email (or anything else) on your Linode, you have to set it up yourself.
17:13<FluffyFoxeh>It's unmanaged hosting
17:13<FluffyFoxeh>https://linode.com/docs/networking/dns/dns-manager-overview/
17:13<FluffyFoxeh>https://www.linode.com/docs/email/
17:14<G00FBALL>so i would keep current domain registrar but everything else i could transfer
17:14<FluffyFoxeh>You can set put Linode in your NS records, yes
17:14<FluffyFoxeh>What else are you transferring? Do you have a website on shared hosting?
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17:15<G00FBALL>yes a website on shared
17:15<FluffyFoxeh>This might be useful then, https://linode.com/docs/platform/migrate-to-linode/migrate-from-shared-hosting-to-linode/
17:15<G00FBALL>but it is limited and can not upgrade ruby and other things
17:16<FluffyFoxeh>yeah, that's the downside of shared hosting. There are no such restrictions on a Linode, but with great power comes great responsibility :)
17:16<G00FBALL>i think i would prefer the responsibilities rather than be limited
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17:17<FluffyFoxeh>I tend to agree
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17:30<Ben_>Hello
17:30<MrPPS>hey Ben_
17:30<Ben_>Is it possible to have a stand alone server on Linode running FreeBSD?
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17:33<raj_>Helo...I have a client whose hosted by Servously on the Mega Hosting plan (20k-100k Pageviews per day; 2 TB 'bandwidth'; unlimited disk-space for $325/month holy crap)....what's the smallest Linode plan that's comparable/offers the same or higher specs?
17:34<raj_>Link to Servously pricing: https://servously.com/hosting-services/
17:34<Ben_>Is it possible to have a stand alone server on Linode running FreeBSD-OS?
17:35<G00FBALL>thank you for the info
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17:39<relidy>Ben_: It's not officially supported, but I'm pretty sure some of the crazies in here have done it.
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17:41<Ben_>Will they allow more than one HDD per server? I would like at least two so I could set up software raid.
17:42<Ben_>ZFS mirror actually...
17:43<Ben_>?
17:43<relidy>You aren't getting access to physical drives, so trying to do any sort of mirroring is probably just a waste of time.
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17:44<relidy>I guess with the new block storage solution, you could mount that in and mirror to it.
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17:44<Ben_>ok.. so this is some sort of stand alone VM
17:45<Peng>What do you mean by "stand alone"?
17:45<Peng>Linode sells VPSes.
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17:45<relidy>Peng++
17:45<Peng>Both local storage and block storage use redundant disk setups.
17:45<Ben_>well.. I don't want a shared server...
17:46<relidy>It's a VPS. You're on shared hardware, but otherwise isolated in virtualized environments.
17:46<Peng>What do you mean by "shared server"? Shared hosting? VPSes? VPSes where different customer VPSes are on the same host servers?
17:46<Ben_>so I call it stand alone... They don't do hardware servers any longer
17:46<relidy>I don't think Linode has ever done dedicated hardware, have they?
17:46<Ben_>ok...
17:47<Ben_>so I just need to find out if I can get a ... VPS that thinks it has 2 or more HD drives.
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17:49<relidy>"Thinks" or "has"? If it only thinks it, then mirroring is pointless since it's likely the two drives are just partitions on the same underlying storage. If you're after redundancy, this is probably the wrong path.
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17:50<Ben_>because my ZFS file system will protect my data better than whatever they have...
17:51<Ben_>...even if it is on the same underlying storage.
17:51<relidy>Then feel free to tinker. You can create separate "disks" in the Manager, but there's nothing that says they come from anything other than the same redundant storage pool.
17:52<relidy>I still think you're barking up the wrong tree, but it's your time and money :)
17:53<Ben_>Thanks Relidy... I have been asking different hosting providers and there are some that will not allow more than a single drive.
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17:55<Ben_>... and once you have been saved by ZFS... well... you'll never go back.
17:57<relidy>Ben_: For the record, Linode does offer a backup solution as well, but I've only ever seen that used here in non-critical situations. I've (*knocks on wood*) never actually lost any data with Linode.
17:57<smallclone>yeah if you make two disks on the same Linode they are on the same host. there's no hardware redundancy. also, the backup service only works with ext3/4
17:58<Ben_>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZFS
17:58<Ben_>Thanks Gentleman(Ladies)
17:58<wtfisgoingon>hello
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17:58<wtfisgoingon>I need help
17:58<relidy>!ask
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17:59<smallclone>wtfisgoingon: go ahead and ask
17:59<@bhanks>hi there, do you have a question wtfisgoingon ?
17:59<wtfisgoingon>well I ran nmap an saw I had a connection that relayed over maybe 8-10 hops back to a members.linode server
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18:00<Peng>What?
18:00<wtfisgoingon>hostname is:[PTR]li666-221.members.linode.com
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18:00<wtfisgoingon>running some sort of linux server off my system
18:00<smallclone>erm
18:00<kenyon>O.o
18:01<wtfisgoingon>says ip:74.207.244.221
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18:01<Peng>!dns6 li666-221.members.linode.com
18:01<linbot>Peng: 212.71.237.221
18:01<Peng>!dns6 74.207.244.221
18:01<linbot>Peng: li86-221.members.linode.com.
18:01<Peng>86 or 666?
18:02<wtfisgoingon>I have no idea about who that is and what they are doing..
18:02<wtfisgoingon>says port used is 995
18:02<Peng>Wait why is 74.207.244.221 in the nmap documentation
18:02<Peng>!dns6 scanme.nmap.org
18:02<linbot>Peng: 2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fe18:bb2f, 45.33.32.156
18:03<wtfisgoingon>I am no expert in any of this but I have ran a lot of IP's and they are masking themselves somehow. They have basically completely taken over my system and programs for the most part.
18:03<Peng>It seems to be the former IP of scanme.nmap.org. :P
18:03<kenyon>nmap is apparently hosted at linode
18:03<smallclone>iirc nmap uses linode
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18:04<wtfisgoingon>what could I do to get this person(s) off my network?
18:04<smallclone>did you use some kind of online nmap tool thing against your own server
18:04<smallclone>i'm still a little unclear how you arrived at this assumption
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18:05<smallclone>port 995 is typically like, POP3 i think
18:05<wtfisgoingon>well it has been showing me a listener on linode before I even used nmap. I looked at my ports doing a man search in terminal and there are maybe 10000 open an each one has something suspicious on it.
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18:07<smallclone>i feel like i need to see whatever it is you're looking at
18:07<Peng>Does nmap have a way to list open sockets like lsof/netstat/ss?
18:07<smallclone>the "man search"
18:07<wtfisgoingon># 31766-32767 Unassigned iceedcp_tx 31948/tcp # Embedded Device Configuration Protocol TX iceedcp_tx 31948/udp # Embedded Device Configuration Protocol TX iceedcp_rx 31949/tcp # Embedded Device Configuration Protocol RX iceedcp_rx 31949/udp # Embedded Device Configuration Protocol RX
18:08<smallclone>!paste
18:08<linbot>Please paste longer snippets over at https://bpaste.net/ and not in the channel
18:08<wtfisgoingon>ty
18:15<linbot>New news from status: Lish Maintenance in Tokyo 1 <https://status.linode.com/incidents/s6ttptbnyvsy>
18:18<wtfisgoingon>https://bpaste.net/show/4c18580fa043
18:18<wtfisgoingon>ok I posted maybe like 2000 or so.. there are another 10000 ports open with all kinds of weird names and programs on them
18:19<wtfisgoingon>those are just some of them an to me they look suspect.. maybe someone can look an tell me if I am just being paranoid?
18:20<AlexMax>I never understood the desire to be "cute" with customization on the level of using FreeBSD/ZFS/whatever
18:21<wtfisgoingon>idk why is listed all the commands I did.
18:21<AlexMax>I'd rather have support
18:21<wtfisgoingon>running my local host In Zenmap shows my localhost is connected to 6 hosts using linode members
18:22<millisa>AlexMax: i like the idea of using the new block store for zfs and sending zfs snapshots over to the other dc when it goes live on block store...
18:24<wtfisgoingon>https://bpaste.net/show/16a2344426c8
18:24<wtfisgoingon>anything in that file look suspicious?
18:26<AlexMax>in that case I'd rather find a host that supports ZFS first-class
18:26<AlexMax>...if one exists
18:27<AlexMax>that's just me though
18:27<wtfisgoingon>? no help
18:30<millisa>are you asking if the /etc/services file looks suspicious?
18:31<Peng>ZFS on Ubuntuuuu? :D
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18:31<wtfisgoingon>yes.. if any files there look suspicious to you?
18:31<millisa>that looks like a default /etc/services file.
18:31<wtfisgoingon>I get a lot of weird commands in my console among many other things..
18:32<wtfisgoingon>ok where do you suggest I look?
18:32<Peng>What was https://bpaste.net/show/4c18580fa043?
18:32<wtfisgoingon>it was my complete log of my terminal
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18:33<wtfisgoingon>I don't know how it posted when I was copy/pasting from vim
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18:37<wtfisgoingon>recommend ZFS for OS X?
18:37<millisa>no?
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18:47<Eugene>AlexMax - the utility comes in that Linode offers a uniquely-priced(at least, they used to: some of the competition have now crept-down to their level.... but then again, Linode used to be a $20/mo minimum...) KVM server with good specs and reasonable uptime history. So what if your filesystem isn't supported by the Backups service?
18:48<Eugene>It was definitely much more of a pain inthe ass to pv_grub stuff pre-KVM, so it made less sense then, but I still get it
18:48<AlexMax>Linode always seems to be out in front of the compeittion in terms of what you get for your dollar
18:49<Eugene>Mostly. Block Storage is disappointingly priced in my eyes.
18:49<AlexMax>Like, there are companies out there that will give you more for cheaper, but I can't think of any that aren't some fly by night outfit that is way worse about overselling
18:50<Eugene>I(and probably a lot of others) really want truly /cheap/ bulk block stores. You can already get super-fast local SSDs, whoop-de-doo about the shared-storage feature
18:50<Eugene>I would counter that Linode /is/ a fly-by-night outfit. FFS, they still haven't deprecated the ColdFusion stuff
18:52<AlexMax>I think DO at release was cheaper - though I don't recall their performance and network quality to be anything to write home about - then Linode caught up and lapped them, making it DO who is having to catch up
18:52<Eugene>Its gone back and forth a couple times. Linode is pretty good about the yearly price drops / service doublings
18:53<AlexMax>heck, my IRC client is going through a DO bouncer, and the only reason it's not on Linode is because I'm too lazy to move :P
18:53<Eugene>Which means doing a hardware refresh(or doubling of capacity) every year-ish to pull off. That's a lot of growth
18:53<AlexMax>ditto with my european game servers, who are with Vultr
18:53<Peng>AlexMax: You should move it! Get a /64 and connect over IPv6. Won't get killed by irresponsible opers as much.
18:54<Peng>I don't think DO's pricing was ever good, up until last month? Their biggest thing vs. Linode was adding SSDs first.
18:55<Eugene>They had smaller plans first
18:55<AlexMax>Peng: They had an affordable 5$ 512MB plan for a long time
18:55<AlexMax>i think that's what this box started out as
18:55<AlexMax>why pay $10 a month for an IRC bouncer
18:55<Peng>True, they had cheap plans. But on a megabyte-to-megabyte basis I'm not sure the $5 plan was as good as 1/4 of a $20 Linode.
18:55<Peng>In some ways it was I guess.
18:56<AlexMax>Certinaly I think the CPU allocation wasn't as good and the network wasn't as high quality
18:56<Peng>And certainly, you're right, if it's all you need, it's all you need.
18:56<AlexMax>I'm actually scared to redo my game server box
18:56<Eugene>Terraform that biznatch
18:56<AlexMax>It's on debian 7, and whatever box my game server box lucked into has been relatively issue free
18:57<AlexMax>but yeah, it's on debian 7 and I need to upgrade it at some point before may
18:57<AlexMax>it's even using a 32-bit userland with a 64-bit kernel
18:57<AlexMax>D:
18:58<Eugene>Remember when people said that you should do that, to save RAM? What fools
18:58<Eugene>Foooools
19:05<linbot>New news from forum: Email/SMTP Related Forum • Proper TXT record for domain and gmail server. <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15772&p=75809#p75809>
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19:17<AlexMax>Eugene: I don't think they were wrong at the time
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19:20<Peng>I used to have a 64-bit VPS with 256 MB of RAM.
19:25<AlexMax>i'm so so sorry
19:25<AlexMax>the tricky part is looking for places to integrate docker
19:26<Peng>It had really good uptime, though. :D
19:26<Peng>It had a really old kernel.
19:26<AlexMax>the stuff I run is not container-friendly in the least
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20:46<thisisatest>hi
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20:46<thisisatest>hi
20:47<thisisatest>anyone on
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20:47<bluey>yay
20:50<bluey>hello?
20:53<Peng>Hello
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20:56<bbd>Is it possible to get an additonal IP address for one of my sites on my linode?
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20:57<Peng>!ips
20:57<linbot>Each Linode comes with 1 public IPv4 address and 1 public IPv6 address. Additional IPv4 addresses are $ 1 per month, and require technical justification. A /64 or /56 of IPv6 can be routed to your Linode at no charge.
21:00<bbd>Could I configure Webmin and Virtualmin to use a /64 for a site and its mail server address?
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21:23<Woet>Peng: don't just use !ips, tell him thats not a justified reason for wasting IPv4 space
21:23<Woet>!towel Peng
21:24<linbot>Woet: Point taken from peng! (19)
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21:42<@mcintosh>!point Peng
21:42<linbot>mcintosh: Point given to peng. (20)
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22:03<Woet>mcintosh: for what? you fanboy
22:05<@bhanks>do not dare speak to His HIghness mcintosh like such, Woet.
22:05<Woet>bhanks: look at Peng '
22:05<Woet>we're supposed to be the first line of defense
22:05<Woet>before people open stupid tickets like "can i have a second ip for one of my sites"
22:06<Woet>Peng thinks this job can be done just by issuing commands to linbot
22:06<Woet>it can't, it's a skill
22:07<@bhanks>Woet do you need attention?
22:07<Woet>yes please
22:08<@bhanks><3
22:08<Woet>(☞゚ヮ゚)☞
22:15<Zimsky>that's uncharacteristic of peng
22:15<Zimsky>!towel Woet
22:15<linbot>Zimsky: Point taken from woet! (2)
22:15<Woet>wtf?
22:15<Zimsky>:D
22:15<Woet>why are you guys hating on me instead of Peng?
22:15<Zimsky>because peng doesn't care
22:15<Zimsky>you do
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22:16<wuyugen>hello
22:16<Zimsky>ahoy
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22:17<wuyugen>Is there a London UK server?
22:17<@sjacobs>yup.
22:17<@sjacobs>https://www.linode.com/speedtest
22:18<wuyugen>How do I buy?
22:19<@sjacobs>https://linode.com/docs/getting-started/
22:20<Zimsky>!detowel sjacobs
22:21<@bhanks>....
22:21<Zimsky>!untowel sjacobs
22:21<Zimsky>… back at you
22:27<wuyugen>Your email address appears invalid
22:27<wuyugen>Always like this
22:28<Woet>and what is your email address?
22:29<wuyugen>Unable to register
22:29<wuyugen>296672900@qq.com
22:29<Woet>linode might be using some weird old regex thats too strict on numeric emails
22:29<wuyugen>hjhua1975@163.com
22:29<Zimsky>could be a ban on qq
22:29<Woet>or that yes
22:29<wuyugen>This does not work either
22:30<millisa>There was someone in here in November and December that had a numeric@qq.com address that also couldn't signup
22:30<Woet>apparently qq.com is disposable?
22:30<Zimsky>kinda
22:30<Woet>i dunno, Zimsky is our Asian expert
22:30<wuyugen>hjhua1975@163.com
22:30<wuyugen>This does not work either
22:31<Zimsky>lots of places ban qq because spam
22:31<millisa>163.com is the same deal.
22:32<Zimsky>http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/022/523/C1mGBSvWEAANu9k.jpg
22:32<Woet>!ops Zimsky is using bad memes
22:32<linbot>Users with ops are employees of Linode, and know what they're talking about. The rest of us are the ever-so-helpful(?) community. Official Linode contact information: https://www.linode.com/contact
22:32<Zimsky>👌
22:32<Woet>wait the command actually does something now?
22:33<Zimsky>it always did?
22:33<Woet>👍🏼
22:33<Zimsky>👌
22:33<Woet>i have a touchbar
22:33<Woet>cant beat my emoji game
22:33<Woet>🙈
22:33<Zimsky>I have an income
22:33<Zimsky>we each have something the other doesn't
22:33<Woet>i have an income too thank you very much
22:33<Zimsky>can you prove it?
22:34<Woet>only to the tax authorities
22:34<Zimsky>I am the tax authority
22:34<Woet>i thought you were a coroner
22:34<Zimsky>I wear many hats
22:34<Woet>to hide your big head
22:34<Zimsky>to keep the snow off
22:34<Woet>no snow in HK
22:34<Zimsky>I never said I was a coroner
22:35<Zimsky>how did you reach that conclusion?
22:35<Woet>you touch dead bodies
22:35<Zimsky>most of the time it's actually just segments
22:36<Zimsky>researcher, not a coroner
22:37<Woet>same thing
22:37<Zimsky>not the same
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22:38<Zimsky>I bet you're that microsoft salesman that tells everyone IIS is the best web server
22:38<Zimsky>or that a 5-employee business NEEDS active directory
22:38<Woet>quite the opposite
22:38<Woet>i lead a successful crusade against everything microsoft
22:39<Zimsky>crusade. that's good phrasing
22:39<Zimsky>!point Woet
22:39<linbot>Zimsky: Point given to woet. (3)
22:39<Zimsky>you have redeemed yourself
22:39<Woet>i have the best words
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22:39<Zimsky>☝👌
22:40<Zimsky>microsoft's divisions of research and their game development are the only cool things about them imo
22:41<millisa>i still prefer their cheap mice over logitechs cheap mice?
22:42<Zimsky>that reminds me of dell. They buy up cheap logitech mice and rebrand them as dell mice
22:42<Woet> no poors please
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23:52<Eugene>I genuinely like the Office 365 Suite. Teams is killer. Skype for Business(stupid name) federates with XMPP. Hosted Exchange is great. And when it all blows up, I can blame Microsoft and have no way to fix it myself.
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23:52<Zimsky>>federates
23:52<Zimsky>dude really
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23:53<Eugene>https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/mt843946.aspx
23:53<Eugene>Oh, and their KB? Has a bunch of useful shit in it with google-able error codes
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23:55<olive>hello
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23:56<@sjacobs>hello
23:56<Zimsky>hello
23:57<Woet>hello
23:57<Zimsky>AHOY THERE
23:57<Eugene>Welcome
23:57<olive>i wolud like to transfer domain to other server
23:57<olive>will it possible?
23:58<Zimsky>anything is possible
23:58<@sjacobs>like point it from one IP address to another?
23:58<Zimsky>except announcing routes with BGP
23:59<olive>if delete domain will it be avaible for sale?
23:59<Zimsky>delete from what?
23:59<olive>linode server
23:59<Zimsky>that doesn't mean anything
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