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---Logopened Wed Feb 07 00:00:56 2018
00:01<zimeko>i should go to sleep sometime
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00:22<rsdehart>Ikaros: but it's super-real
00:22<rsdehart>they even said so
00:22<Ikaros>Lies and slander
00:23<rsdehart>they couldn't say it unless it was true
00:23<rsdehart>don't you know people police that stuff?
00:23<Ikaros>Why, because it's the internet?
00:23<rsdehart>everything on the internet is fact-checked beforehand by a governing body
00:23<Ikaros>I'm not even going to continue this, lol
00:23<rsdehart>so you can be sure that if it makes it up there, it's totally ultra-true
00:24<rsdehart>yeah I'm done too
00:25*Woet polices rsdehart
00:27*Zimsky attorney-general's Woet
00:28<Woet>Zimsky: those don't exist in Russia
00:28<Zimsky>they do
00:28<Zimsky>they're just called prosecutor generals
00:29<Woet>more like cyka blyat rush b generals
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00:50*rsdehart hegemons Woet
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00:54<Ikaros>Hm. Shocker: Realtek drivers for USB wifi dongles work DECENTLY well (not perfect) under Windows, but apparently they can't code worth a damn in C for Linux.
00:55<Zimsky>maybe you should be cool and use bsd
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00:57<Ikaros>The stock code they ship with their drivers don't seem to compile on any Linux kernel newer than 4.1, so in order to use the drivers under Linux you must run < 4.1 *or* rework the code to be compatible with more recent kernels. Even then, the code is bad enough, that even a successful compilation gives you an unloadable driver due to undefined symbol(s), modprobe/insmod refuses.
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00:58<Ikaros>This seems to prove problematic for my laptop. Oh well. Back to the drawing board tonight. :(
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01:08<Peng>So all you have to do is backport all the Meltdown and Spectre patches to 4.1...
01:08<rsdehart>that's just one thing
01:08<rsdehart>like "build a skyscraper"
01:08<rsdehart>just one thing. How long could it possibly take?
01:09<Ikaros>Well a bit late for that. I did fix the issues plaguing the Linux drivers themselves at least.
01:09<Ikaros>Not that I'm willing to share.
01:09<Ikaros>'cause y'know, nobody's gonna care.
01:12<Ikaros>Really hate coming across that dreaded 'undefined symbol' though, sometimes can be really freakishly tough to track down.
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01:15<Ikaros>Now I run into an issue where Linux suddenly decides the dongle isn't there anymore, until god knows how many unplug-replug cycles it takes to get it to see it again. Which is why I was testing the dongle on my Windows PC to see if Windows would throw any USB errors. It did not. Throw it back into the Linux laptop, USB subsystem complains about an enumeration failure, sometimes accompanied by
01:15<Ikaros>complaints from the driver in the thing a few more times and it works again.
01:15<Ikaros>So yeah, bit of a clusterf**k
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02:01<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • A Dieta Da Cabeça <>
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02:05<Minh>Can you help me setup for cron job?
02:06<millisa>There's a pretty good doc on it here:
02:06<Minh>Should you for me example? :)
02:07<Minh>I tried it but not working
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02:08<millisa>0 7 * 12 * /some/thing/you/want/to/run
02:08<millisa>would run at 7:00am, on the 12th
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02:09<millisa>0 7 12 * * (sorry)
02:09<Minh>not have "crontab" before this syntax
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02:11<millisa>I'm not 100% I understand what you are asking, but no, you don't put crontab at the beginning of a line in the crontab if that is what you are asking.
02:12<millisa>You could use the crontab command to list the cronjobs or to edit the jobs in the crontab
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02:13<Minh>Ok, That's asking :)
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02:16<Minh>Its show "command not found" when I try this syntax: 1 * * * * /srv/
02:16<millisa>are you typing that at the shell prompt or into the editor that comes up when you use 'crontab -e'?
02:17<millisa>you typed it at the shell prompt
02:17<millisa>'crontab -e' would let you edit the current user's crontab.
02:18<Woet>'crontab -u zimsky -e' would let you edit Zimsky's crontab
02:18<Minh>for "crontab -e" ->
02:19<Woet>Minh: what is your question?
02:19<Minh>You can guide step by step, please :)
02:19<Woet>sure, the docs do that for you:
02:19<Woet>millisa linked them 15 minutes ago
02:19<Woet>it also covers the 'crontab -e' part
02:20<Woet>and why are you using the LISH console instead of SSH?
02:22<Minh>I can't open shh :(
02:22<Woet>why not?
02:24<Minh>I try click in this link but not working
02:24<Woet>SSH is not a link.
02:24<millisa>This is though:
02:24<Woet>Minh: are you sure an unmanaged Linux VPS is the right choice for you? you don't seem very eager to learn.
02:25<millisa>You should definitely go through that doc to get you started
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02:25<millisa>They've even got a video to show you how to get in with ssh for the first time
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02:28<Woet>Minh: i like how you drew an arrow to the "not-working ssh link" but ignored the "getting started guide" right next to it
02:28<Woet>that takes effort
02:28<Minh>Now, got it. Thannk you a lot
02:30<Zimsky>hey Woet, if you run :(){:|:&};: in a bash prompt, it does a cool flippy thing
02:31<Woet>i dont want a cool flippy thing
02:31<Zimsky>good thing it isn't giving you one then, and instead only doing one
02:32<Zimsky>and you criticise MY english!
02:32<Zimsky>should be UN sanctions against you
02:34<Zimsky>I have a star now too
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02:38<millisa>I no longer feel special.
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03:07<Guest3609>Hi all
03:07<Guest3609>Please, can you help me?
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03:09<Guest3609>How to I can change permission for file /var/run/
03:09<FluffyFoxeh>you're doing something wrong if you're asking that
03:09<Woet>the same as any other file
03:09<Woet>but what on earth are you trying to do
03:10<FluffyFoxeh>you're on the wrong track
03:16<Guest3609>Yes, But I try this: not still not correct
03:18<@sjacobs>because you aren't editing the file.
03:18<Peng>Guest3609: That's something completely different
03:18<@sjacobs>`crontab -e` opens the crontab file for editing.
03:18<@sjacobs>then add that line to the bottom, exit, and save.
03:19<Woet>Guest3609: I ask you the same thing again, are you sure an unmanaged Linux VPS is the right choice for you? you don't seem very eager to learn.
03:20<Peng>Why not
03:20<Woet>"you don't seem very eager to learn."
03:22<Zimsky>lock someone in a room with a documentation library with a monitor, keyboard, and their colo'd rack until they make it work
03:29<Guest3609>Woet, This my customer. They not use a any VPS. I only need setup simple cron :)
03:30<Woet>Guest3609: why didn't you tell your customer you're not sure how?
03:39<Guest3609>Yes, I will tell my customer in next time :)
03:44<Woet>why not this time?
03:44<Guest3609>Hi @sjacobs I added a line in 'crontab -e'
03:44<Guest3609>its right?
03:45<Woet>Guest3609: why don't you read the many docs that you've been given?
03:45<Woet>Guest3609: you were even given a video tutorial
03:46<Guest3609>I need exacty :)
03:47<Guest3609>how to I know it running
03:47<Woet>Guest3609: you check the logs
03:49<Guest3609>How to I looking for it
03:50<@sjacobs>Guest3609: you should probably use a local VM in virtualbox or something to try this for yourself first.
03:51<@sjacobs>that way you can try as many times as you want without affecting your customer.
03:52<@sjacobs>if the cron does what it is supposed to do, at the time it is supposed to do it, it is working.
03:55<Guest3609>I have a ftp to access it. So, we can view this logs?
03:56<Guest3609>Yes, I know. I will tell my customer
03:56<Guest3609>Will easy for me in next time
03:57<Guest3609>but now, I want setup simple cronjob for my customer
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04:03<Woet>Guest3609: and you should tell your customer you don't know how and to find someone else
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04:36<MrPPS>Man, it's scary that there are situations where people with such minimal knowledge are working on live servers :(
04:37<cheapie>MrPPS: "Yeah, I'm a Linux server expert. I can get that set up in no time!" "OK, here's the login info" (later) "Where's the start button?"
04:37<MrPPS>rings too true
04:38<Woet>its a shame linode/digitalocean try to make it so appealing for people to buy it without having the required knowledge
04:38<Woet>i guess the money is worth all the abuse they must be dealing with
04:39<cheapie>"Servers only $5/month!" "Ooh, cool... OK, I bought it, now what?"
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04:43<MrPPS>Woet: I mean, at the same time, it's because it was so affordable that I was able to start learning. Linode was my first server experience
04:43<MrPPS>*but* I only did stuff that affected me
04:43<MrPPS>not clients haha
04:43<MrPPS>(i.e. I ran services only for me, and mucked around with all manner of things)
04:44<@jhaas>Linode: the Mucker's platform of choice since 2003
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04:48<alex_>hope all are fine
04:48<MrPPS>also, hi alex_
04:49<alex_>Hi MRPPS
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04:49<alex_>i have face issue anyone please help me
04:50<Woet>ah yes
04:50<Woet>thats all the information we need
04:50<MrPPS>face issue?
04:50<Woet>helping is in progress, please hold
04:50<MrPPS>like, you've hurt your face or something?
04:50<Woet>Zimsky has a face issue too
04:50<Woet>it's hideous
04:50<MrPPS>alex_: or is it something more sinister? tell us more!
04:52<alex_>i have setup linode server but by email send from linode to gmail /hotmail are oing to spam.
04:52<MrPPS>have you set up the appropriate DNS records? are you DKIM signing? etc.
04:52<alex_>all are set
04:53<MrPPS>and they've all propogated etc? if so, have you checked common faults with the regular fault checking websites/etc? what does gmail say they're going to spam for?
04:54<alex_>i don't know why message goes to spam
04:54<MrPPS>have you checked the message source to see?
04:54<MrPPS>usually there is some indication there
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04:54<alex_>yes i check and there everything looks fine
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04:55<MrPPS>have you looked on ?
04:56<alex_>ok i will check on this to
04:56<MrPPS>sometimes that can help shed more light
04:56<alex_>can i use thirdparty mailing service ?
04:57<MrPPS>What do you mean?
04:57<MrPPS>If you're testing your Linode emailing to your Gmail, for example, and your Linode is the issue
04:57<MrPPS>then you'll want to test your Linode sending to
04:57<MrPPS>Unless I'm misunderstanding your original problem?
04:58<alex_>ok sure
05:03<alex_>========================================================== Summary of Results ========================================================== SPF Check : pass Sender-ID Check : pass DKIM Check : pass SpamAssassin Check : ham (non-spam)
05:03<alex_>Mrpps this is summary detail
05:04<MrPPS>So is it *every* mail you're sending to gmail that's an issue, or did you just test one? What was the content of that email?
05:05<alex_>every mail
05:05<alex_>simple text
05:07<MrPPS>Have you tried something a little more "bulky"? Sometimes simply emails that just say "test" etc can cause issues as they get picked up as spam.
05:07<MrPPS>Additionally, I presume you're sending this via the same method you just used for analysis? Not unauthenticated command-line mail or something
05:08<alex_>yes i already try
05:08<@sjacobs>is gmail replying to you with anything?
05:08<alex_>using using PHP mail function
05:08<@sjacobs>they'll reply if reverse DNS isn't set for IPv6, for example.
05:09<alex_>are you talking about send email from gmail to my website ?
05:09<@sjacobs>no, from you website to gmail.
05:09<MrPPS>and you're authenticating with your php mailer?
05:10<MrPPS>there are plenty of people who send with phpmail without authenticating, and that can cause issues
05:10<alex_>may be you are right MRPPS i will use phpmailer for this
05:10<MrPPS>That's... not quite what I was saying
05:10<MrPPS>but feel free to test it
05:11<MrPPS>Otherwise, would you feel comfortable sending me a test email?
05:11<alex_>what is your email ?
05:11<MrPPS>I'm just making a Gmail now. Give me a couple of minutes
05:13<MrPPS>alex_: I'll PM my email to you now
05:13<MrPPS>Okay sent - let me know when you've sent the email
05:14<alex_>send please check
05:14<MrPPS>It appears in my regular inbox
05:14<MrPPS>not in spam
05:15<MrPPS>Did you only recently set these DNS records? It could have just been that they hadn't propogated to servers that google uses at that point
05:15<alex_>really ?
05:15<MrPPS>Really - I'll send a screenshot
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05:17<MrPPS>alex_: do you see the screenshot?
05:18<alex_>waoo it made my day :p
05:18<alex_>Thanks MrPPS
05:18<MrPPS>Great :)
05:18<MrPPS>you're welcome
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05:19<MrPPS>Well that was the easiest "face issue" I've ever dealt with
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07:22<tdutrion>Hi there !
07:22<MrPPS>hey tdutrion
07:22<tdutrion>I'm looking for a contact to get in touch with regarding community sponsorship (conferences and user groups)
07:22<tdutrion>any chance that would be of interest for your company?
07:22<MrPPS>I'm guessing that may be more suited to a phone call/email to linode; this is a community support channel
07:22<MrPPS>and as such, most of us are just users of the service :)
07:23<@bmartin>Hey tdutrion you can always email and then it could be filtered to the appropriate people!
07:23<tdutrion>Thanks for your answers both!
07:23<tdutrion>So as users, would you definitely recommend it?
07:23<MrPPS>This service? Definitely
07:24<MrPPS>Been a happy user for 9 years now :)
07:24<tdutrion>as I was stating, it's for community stuff, so we only want good sponsors!
07:24<@bmartin>I'm a bit biased but I think it's pretty swell :)
07:24<tdutrion>I used it for a while but not that many times and not for prod :)
07:26<MrPPS>What sort of group is it?
07:27<MrPPS>That you're looking to get sponsored
07:27<tdutrion>I have two PHP conferences (ScotlandPHP and DarkmiraTour Brazil) and two UGs (Zend France and DijonTech)
07:27<@bmartin>what is your email if you don't mind me asking
07:28<tdutrion>DijonTech is a generic techmeetup, all subjects tech related welcome, aiming for pros
07:28<@bmartin>I will make sure we keep a look out
07:28<tdutrion>you can reach me at
07:28<@bmartin>still email
07:28<@bmartin>but I'll ping some people
07:28<@bmartin>and make sure we keep an eye out
07:28<Woet>your ticket income doesn't cover the $5 linode?
07:29<MrPPS>Nice :)
07:29<@bmartin>Woet what did we talk about?
07:30<Woet>bmartin: i just don't sponsorships
07:30<@bmartin>I'll sponsor you Woet
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07:30<MrPPS>Found the chink in the armour
07:31<liutauras>Hello guys,
07:31<liutauras>could you please help me solve my problem
07:31<@bmartin>how can we help you?
07:31<linbot>If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read
07:32<liutauras>I have write all about my problem in ubuntu forum, if you could help I would be really happy :)
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07:33<@bmartin>do you by chance have a ticket open with us as well?
07:33<liutauras>Yes, I do
07:33<Woet>liutauras: why are you installing a desktop?
07:33<@bmartin>what is that ticket number so I can get someone to take a look
07:34<liutauras>what do you mean installing a desktop? :)
07:34<dzho>Woet: Ubuntu has a server installation option
07:34<@bmartin>We will have someone take a look ASAP
07:34<Woet>dzho: I know, but the error message mentioning org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1 makes me believe there's a desktop
07:34<dzho>oh you sweet summer child policykit rules all
07:35<Woet>not on my servers
07:35<dzho>you running devuan or what?
07:35<Woet>liutauras: just so you know, Linode is an unmanaged provider. their support is not really meant for managing your servers.
07:35*dzho cackles holds out his gnarled hands palm up and exclaims "good, good, let the systemd hate flow through you"
07:36<liutauras>Yes, I understand that, I tought they still could help me
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07:37<Woet>liutauras: only because they're overly nice
07:38<Woet>except scrane
07:38<liutauras>I were following their guide for setting up the the server security and that was when I ran in into those problems..
07:39<liutauras>Yes their very nice.
07:39<Woet>did you try running "systemctl status ssh.service" and "journalctl -xe" for details.
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07:39<liutauras>I can do that right now, if you could give me the scrips
07:40<liutauras>hello :)
07:40<renato>i have one problem i send 20$ for linode my account open more no have my $20
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07:42<liutauras>Have you checked you bank, was the transaction processed?
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07:43<renato>yes i received email Payment Receipt [6969479]
07:44<liutauras>Have you opened a support ticket?
07:45<renato>no because my account no enter yesterday i see today my account enter more no have my money
07:46<liutauras>You should stay online, someone might help you in here, but in the meanwhile you should open a support ticket :)
07:50<@bmartin>Hey renato so we can't get into account details on our public forum but if you open a support ticket we can look further. If we required additional identification to activate your account we would have refunded automatically and the money will be back in your account in 3-5 business days.
07:50<@jhaas>(if you can't login for whatever reason, please e-mail
07:51<@bmartin>You can include the last 6 digits of the card on file which will speed up verification as well
07:51<MrPPS>Or send all 16 digits to bmartin
07:51<MrPPS>(just kidding)
07:51<@bmartin>don't do that
07:52<MrPPS>I was hoping I'd be quick enough with the j/k
07:52<MrPPS>But you're right - language barriers
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07:52<MrPPS>Might make for an accidental :)
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07:52<@bmartin>appreciate you
07:52<@bmartin>!point MrPPS
07:52<linbot>bmartin: Point given to mrpps. (4)
07:52<liutauras>Have you sent anyone to check my ticket? :)
07:52<Woet>bmartin: why dont you appreciate me?
07:53<@bmartin>working on it liutauras
07:53<@bmartin>You know I appreciate you Woet
07:53<liutauras>thank you very much :)
07:53<Woet>bmartin: wheres my point
07:53<Woet>liutauras: come on, don't complain about the response time on a ticket that isn't even covered by support
07:53<Woet>that's just rude
07:54<liutauras>No, no i don't meant to be rude
07:54<liutauras>I'm just asking if i should wait for response or go mine other business
07:55<Woet>did you know that waiting in and of itself does not require your attention
07:55<Woet>so you can wait and do other business at the same time!
07:56<liutauras>Don't know really what to do
07:56<Woet>polish bhanks's shoes
07:57<MrPPS>liutauras: on my phone, so can't really type lengthy suggestions, but based on a very quick look at the error message, I'd assume either the key file doesn't exist, or, file permissions on it are wrong
07:57<liutauras>whos bhanks?
07:57<MrPPS>If you want to do something while waiting, you could check those
07:58<liutauras>Okay, I will check thank you
08:00<liutauras>by any chance could you give me the scrips to check it? :D
08:01<Woet>you gotta learn how to read docs and google
08:02<Woet>if you want an unmanaged linux vps
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08:02<MrPPS>liutauras: ls command is your friend to see if it exists, and to see the file permissions too :)
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08:02<MrPPS>Oh back!
08:03<liutauras>what happened?
08:03<MrPPS>So, check the man page for ls command
08:03<MrPPS>To see how that can help :)
08:03<liutauras>I'm sorry to ask so much
08:04<liutauras>whos man page
08:04<MrPPS>Man page is a manual/documentation for a command
08:04<MrPPS>People write them for various commands to help you understand how to use them
08:04<MrPPS>So if you typed in: man ls
08:05<MrPPS>You'd get the "man page" for the "ls" command
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08:09<MrPPS>Alright, gonna sleep. Ciao
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08:29<liutauras>I have a question, anyone here?
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08:32<@sjacobs>liutauras: lots of people. what's your question?
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08:34<liutauras>when i enter command sudo systemctl restart sshd i get: sudo: sudo: unable to resolve host
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08:34<liutauras>now when i enter systemctl restart sshd on root user
08:34<liutauras>i get nothing
08:34<liutauras>does that mean the sshd restarted or no?
08:36<liutauras>if i enter systemctl restart sshd on my user i get Failed to restart sshd.service: The name org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1 was not provided by any .service files See system logs and 'systemctl status sshd.service' for details
08:38<@sjacobs>never seen that before. quick google search shoes some selinux mentions.
08:38<@sjacobs>what distro?
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08:39<liutauras>do you know how to reinstall polkit
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08:40<@sjacobs>that would depend on the distro.
08:41<@sjacobs>any useful info in `journalctl -u sshd.service`
08:42<liutauras>how do i check?
08:42<@sjacobs>you run that command from the terminal.
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08:44<@sjacobs>looks like the policy kit thing is just because you weren't root or run it as sudo. so that's not the issue.
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08:44<liutauras>Hint: You are currently not seeing messages from other users and the system. Users in the 'systemd-journal' group can see all messages. Pass -q to turn off this notice. No journal files were opened due to insufficient permissions. liutauras@PakareHost:~$
08:44<liutauras>nothing :(
08:44<@sjacobs>looks like you're going to need sudo.
08:45<@sjacobs>and this should help with your "unable to resolve host" issue.
08:46<liutauras>I have seen this post, but can you explain me what do i need to do?
08:46<@sjacobs>ensure your hostname is set and that your /etc/hostname file is valid, including your hostname.
08:47<liutauras>when i type more /etc/hostname
08:47<liutauras>is says PakareHost
08:47<@sjacobs>is that in your /etc/hosts file for
08:48<liutauras>liutauras@PakareHost:~$ more /etc/hosts localhost ubuntu
08:49<liutauras> localhost
08:49<liutauras>do i have to change it?
08:49<@sjacobs>then you want to set it up like in that askubuntu link.
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08:52<liutauras>i dont understand what to change
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08:54<liutauras>im called liutauras@PakareHost
08:54<liutauras>and my hostname is PakareHost
08:54<liutauras>what do i change in /etc/hosts?
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08:55<liutauras>look bro
08:55<liutauras>this guide says i need to reinstall polkit
08:56<liutauras>how do i reinstall it?
09:00<Woet>liutauras: did you already install anything on your server? is there anything on there?
09:02<liutauras>nothing installed, just following the linode guide
09:02<liutauras>now i installed policykit 1
09:02<liutauras>and get different message now
09:03<liutauras>when i type this
09:03<liutauras>sudo systemctl restart sshd
09:03<linbot>New news from forum: Web Servers and Web App Development • Apache2 does tons of reads before serving a simple http request response <> || Web Servers and Web App Development • Linode Consultant / Help Required <> || Performance and Tuning • Architecture 101 - What's my first step? <
09:03<liutauras>when i type this
09:03<liutauras>sudo systemctl restart sshd
09:04<liutauras>I still get sudo: unable to resolve hosts
09:04<liutauras>when i type systemctl restart sshd
09:04<liutauras>i get ==== AUTHENTICATING FOR org.freedesktop.systemd1.manage-units ===
09:04<liutauras>Authentication is required to restart 'ssh.service'.
09:05<liutauras>Authenticating as: Liutauras pasword:
09:05<Woet>liutauras: i dont know what on earth you've done to it, but i'd recommend to just reinstall the server.
09:05<liutauras>==== AUTHENTICATION COMPLETE ===
09:05<liutauras>so I restarted the config now?
09:05<liutauras>I haven't done shit to it
09:05<liutauras>i followed everything
09:05<liutauras>nothing else
09:06<Woet>liutauras: but i'd recommend to just reinstall the server.
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09:10<@sjacobs>that hosts issue is still because haven't added PakareHost to your hosts file. you just need to add a line like:
09:10<@sjacobs> PakareHost
09:13<linbot>New news from forum: Email/SMTP Related Forum • Hours Delay "Linode Events Notification" <> || General Discussion • Migrating from Rackspace <>
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09:15<placek>could i talk witth a mod
09:15<linbot>If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read
09:16<linbot>Users with ops are employees of Linode, and know what they're talking about. The rest of us are the ever-so-helpful(?) community. Official Linode contact information:
09:17<smallclone>unless your question is account information-specific, we can probably help you. otherwise you should open a ticket.
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09:17<placek>i would like to ask
09:17<placek>if it's possible to add an user to a current linode vps
09:17<placek>and he can restart and do stuff
09:20<smallclone>that's a Linode Manager'd still need to create a linux user on the machine itself if you want them to be able to like, administer the server and whatnot
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09:26<smallclone>hi, feel free to ask your question
09:26<chrstine>do you have only linux in your service ?
09:26<chrstine>or windows is allowed too
09:27<Woet>why would you want Windows?
09:27<placek>another question
09:27<smallclone>it's possible, but it is not available by default
09:27<Woet>it's a server, not a gaming pc
09:27<placek>another question
09:27<placek>i don't want to pay money, i'm a friend of a guy who owns a linode
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09:27<placek>it asks me to complete my thing and to add credit card
09:27<chrstine>how can i get a windows cloud then ?
09:27<smallclone>you are trying to create a new account
09:27<smallclone>you need to get your friend to make you a user on their account
09:28<smallclone>i forget what the thing is
09:28<linbot>It is possible to run Windows on !kvm Linodes. Here's a set of unofficial instructions:
09:28<smallclone>^ that's the way to do it. honestly, unless you particularly have your heart set on Linode you're probably better of just going with a vps provider that offers windows
09:29<chrstine>ah i don"t have time for this
09:29<chrstine>anyways thank
09:29<chrstine>one more question do you reccomend any good website for windwos clouds ?
09:29<Woet>why would you want Windows?
09:30<chrstine>its easy for me to work with
09:30<placek>please help
09:30<smallclone> i think vultr does windows too
09:30<placek>i can't register without putting a credit card
09:30<chrstine>vultr si not good
09:30<smallclone>placek: i told you, you need to have your friend make a sub-user for you
09:30<smallclone>on *their* account
09:30<chrstine>thanks guys
09:30<chrstine>have a good day
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11:19<dazzled>hi. i just set up my linode running centos 7. now I want to s
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11:21<dazzled>configure firewalld . the problem is that i am connected via ssh and when I start the firewall my connection is stopped and them blocked. if i try configuring it first i get an error message that firewalld is not running.
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11:58<jeancassel>hello, does the machine Ubuntu 16 come with PHP7 ? And does MySQL come with triggrers + views support ?
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12:06<ponas>jeancassel: it doesn't come with PHP or MySQL, you'll need to install, configure and maintain the software yourself
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12:16<linbot>If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read
12:16<Etienne>is there a Linode support employee online?
12:16<linbot>If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read
12:16<linbot>Users with ops are employees of Linode, and know what they're talking about. The rest of us are the ever-so-helpful(?) community. Official Linode contact information:
12:16<smallclone>Etienne: unless you have an account information question, we can probably help you. otherwise you should use the info in that contact link ^
12:17<Etienne>how long does it takes for a new account to be verified and activated?
12:18<smallclone>Etienne: it varies, i would say usually within an hour depending on the volume of tickets / signups
12:19<Woet>i dont know why you needed a support employee for that
12:19<Etienne>Ok, I'll wait for the mail then, thanks!
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12:24<jeancassel>Ok thank you
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12:45<linbot>It is possible to run Windows on !kvm Linodes. Here's a set of unofficial instructions:
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13:08<Eugene>Every day I'm Linodin'
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13:09<craig>I am planning to resize our linode instance. Will there be any changes to IP addresses, data loss, or anything that should be of concern during the resize or after?
13:14<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • date a live porn <>
13:23<grawity>craig: no, except for downtime while migrating it to the apropriate host for the new size
13:23<craig>Thank you..
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13:38<jalter>!point eugene
13:38<linbot>jalter: Point given to eugene. (48) (Biggest fan: jalter, total: 17)
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14:29<smallclone>17 points?!
14:29<smallclone>get a room
14:37<relidy>!point smallclone
14:37<linbot>relidy: Point given to smallclone. (10)
14:38<smallclone>why doesn't it tell me who my biggest fan is?
14:38<smallclone>!point relidy
14:39<linbot>smallclone: Point given to relidy. (9)
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14:41<smallclone>maybe you need to have a certain amount of points first
14:41<smallclone>!point dwfreed
14:41<linbot>smallclone: Point given to dwfreed. (39) (Biggest fan: mcintosh, total: 6)
14:44<smallclone>i can't believe i only have ten points i have been endlessly helpful in here
14:44<smallclone>maybe even too helpful
14:44<QTR>This chat room
14:44<smallclone>yep it's an irc channel
14:44<smallclone>feel free to ask your other question
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15:12<Eugene>!lick smallclone
15:12<linbot>Eugene: Point given to smallclone. (11)
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20:52<jalter>!point smallclone
20:52<linbot>jalter: Point given to smallclone. (12)
20:54<@bhanks>no one tell Eugene that jalter is giving points to others.
20:55<jalter>!point bhanks
20:55<linbot>jalter: Point given to bhanks. (4)
20:55<@bhanks>oh darn
20:57<@mcintosh>!point mcintosh
20:57<linbot>mcintosh: 1,000,000 points for mcintosh!!!
20:58<jalter>!unpoint mcintosh
20:58<linbot>jalter: Point taken from mcintosh! (24)
20:58<@mcintosh>wow the disrespect
20:58<jalter>hrrmmmmmmmmmmmm 🤔
20:59<jalter>!lick mcintosh
20:59<linbot>jalter: Point given to mcintosh. (25)
20:59<Ikaros>Quick question. I've been wondering this since I initially set up my Dallas one the other week, but is a freshly ordered Linode supposed to come with a /64 pool assignment already? I'm not speaking of the default address and its /64, I'm talking the kind you'd see listed under "public IP pools". Thought we had to open a ticket to get those.
21:01<jalter>Ikaros: You're correct, you'd need to request one. Are you seeing one unexpectedly?
21:02<jalter>If you have a /64 pool for a different Linode in the same datacenter, you'll see that pool listed under Public IP Pools
21:04<Ikaros>jalter: Yeah, the moment I ordered it, it appeared. It almost looked like one I had with a long-defunct Linode I USED to have way back when.
21:05<jalter>Almost or exactly? Because it's probably that one if it was in the same datacenter. :) If you open a ticket, we can change where it points to.
21:05<Ikaros>Yeah I did actually open one. It's actually been open for a day and a half.
21:05<Zimsky>!point bhanks
21:06<linbot>Zimsky: Point given to bhanks. (5)
21:07<Ikaros>I say "almost" because it was long enough ago that I could only say it SEEMED familiar, but I couldn't actually verify 100% it was the old assignment.
21:09<@bhanks>well hello Zimsky
21:09<Zimsky>bhanks hello well
21:09<jalter>Ikaros: I'm not working right now, but I've nudged one of my colleagues and passed your ticket to them
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21:27<linbot>New news from forum: Web Servers and Web App Development • Linode Consultant / Help Required <>
21:44<Zimsky>yes, this ^^^
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22:12<MrPPS>We reporting cloud manager bugs via support tickets, or is there a better place?
22:13<millisa> maybe?
22:14<MrPPS>Hmm, one of them can probably go there; other I'm not sure. But I'll check it out :) thanks
22:14<@sjacobs>, too.
22:14<MrPPS>ah, sweet, shall do
22:15<@sjacobs>not the easiest to find. it's where the "Submit Feedback" link sends ya, but it's hidden in the menu under your username.
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22:55<millisa>Now that the greetings are out of the way . . .
22:56<MrPPS>we can all partayyy \o/
22:56<Brian>Anybody updated EasyApache 3 to EasyApache 4
22:56<Brian>lol getting some crazy issues
22:56<Brian>none of the websites are working after the update
22:57<staticsafe>it was a one-click process from WHM for me, didn't have any issues after *shrug*
22:57<Brian>Because of it added the code AddHandler application/x-httpd-php70 .php to each and every .htaccess file
22:57<staticsafe>define not working
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22:58<Brian>now all the websites are downloading the index.php file
22:58<millisa>you saw the new mutli-php management stuff?
22:58<AlexMax>i'm so so sorry
22:58<staticsafe>Brian: well is PHP 7 installed
22:58<staticsafe>might have to reprovision the profile
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22:59<Brian>yes, i installed php 7
22:59<millisa>in whm, in the search box in the upper left if you put in 'multiphp' you should see the manager. there's a tab for the php handlers and another for the versions on each of the sites
22:59<Brian>It was not actually installed after the update
23:01<Brian>So, do i need to change the default php version to php 7 to make all the websites working ?
23:01<staticsafe>probably, yes
23:01<millisa>if you want php7 on a site ,you'd need to set it, sure.
23:02<millisa>there's a default php version you can set on the that multi php manager page
23:02<millisa>reference is here:
23:03<Brian>but if i set a default version, then also it will not work right ? because of the code "AddHandler application/x-httpd-php70 .php" added to .htaccess ?
23:04<millisa>pretty sure the multi manager is just going to set it for you in the htaccess
23:04<millisa>looks something like this in the /home/sitename/public_html/.htaccess
23:07<Brian>Then let me change it, lets see what is going to happen :)
23:07<staticsafe>heh good luck, I deal with cPanel as part of $WORK on a daily basis
23:08<millisa>some of the folks we have using it really like the php version changing. lets them test/rollback new versions and I don't have to be involved other than making sure the version is available.
23:08<staticsafe>yeah its pretty cool
23:10<Brian>I just updated the system default PHP version to 5.6
23:10<Brian>But I still have issues with all the websites
23:10<millisa>do they sites show the ea-php56 version on that same page?
23:10<Brian>All of the websites are downloading index.php files instead of loading
23:11<millisa>the system default's only going to apply to the ones that are set to inherit
23:11<Brian>This domain inherits its PHP version “ea-php56” from: System Default
23:12<Brian>Yes, all of the accounts are set to inherit
23:12<millisa>have you tried a simple phpinfo file?
23:12<Woet>ew cpanel
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23:13<millisa>if you've got php handler stuff still in the .htaccess that cpanel didn't put there, you may need to remove it
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23:15<Brian>Yes, info.php file also getting downloaded
23:16<copart>Briam. what about removing the .htaccess?
23:17<copart>sounds like no ddHandler for php
23:18<Brian>Yes, I still have the code "AddHandler application/x-httpd-php70 .php" on all the .htaccess files on the server.
23:18<copart>been a few years since i used whm... did not like how it always wanted to own all processes
23:19<copart>try removing that line from the .htaccess relative to where you have the info.php file
23:19<Brian>The problem is there are more than 500 accounts on the server.
23:20<Brian>If i remove that line it will work, but what to do for all the accounts. Really wired
23:20<copart>scripting job!
23:21<millisa>well, make sure it works then it looks like a job for sed/awk/perl-you-heathen
23:21<Brian>Yes, it works
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23:22<Brian>But how do i do it for all the accounts
23:22<Woet>ew cpanel
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23:22<copart>Brian... this is a job for a script.. as millisa said
23:23<copart>a script would be able to find ALL .htaccess files with that line...
23:23<copart>sed to remove the lines.... grep to find target files
23:25<Brian>Yes, what Millisa said seems like a plan.
23:26<millisa>i haven't checked this, so i wouldn't just run it, but it *looks* like it may get you what you need: for a in $(for i in $(\ls /var/cpanel/users | grep -v system); do find /home/$i -name .htaccess; done); do sed -i /AddHandler/s/^/#/ $a; done
23:26<Woet>ew cpanel
23:26<Brian>Thanks Millisa
23:26<Brian>Let me try that
23:27<millisa>gets the list of users from /var/cpanel/users (not system), looks in each's homedir for htaccess, then does a sed replacement on a line with AddHandler and comments the line.
23:27<millisa>again; wouldn't just run it willynilly. i like to typo.
23:35<Brian>It worked perfectly :)
23:35<Woet>ew cpanel
23:35<millisa>you live dangerously.
23:36<Brian>Millisa > are you working for linode ?
23:36<linbot>Users with ops are employees of Linode, and know what they're talking about. The rest of us are the ever-so-helpful(?) community. Official Linode contact information:
23:36<Brian>You saved my day lol
23:36<Woet>whoops, typo
23:36<Woet>i meant ew cpanel
23:36<millisa>(no. also ew. cpanel).
23:37<Brian>wow great :)
23:40<Brian>Thanks a lot :)
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23:41<Woet>ew cpanel
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23:49<rsdehart>ew Woet
23:50<rsdehart>I do agree, ew cpanel
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