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---Logopened Fri Feb 09 00:00:59 2018
00:02<Zimsky>microsoft has important articles?
00:15<Ikaros>Heh. Success. I'm ready and updated. Bring on the maintenance (whenever it gets planned at least)!
00:17<millisa>is that this: ?
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00:20<Ikaros>millisa yeah. With a few updates according to latest kernel changelogs and documentation checks to make sure I'm actually checking the correct things internally.
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01:00<FluffyFoxeh>there are no real people in #linode
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03:44<linbot>New news from forum: Linux Networking • Virtualmin and multiple domains and ip addresses <> || Linux Networking • Route private traffic between multiple Linodes - simple route table question <> || Web Servers and Web App Development • Why so much RAM used on website? <
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03:54<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Mixed mode errors after moving website to https / ssl <> || Web Servers and Web App Development • Why so much RAM used on website? <> || Performance and Tuning • Architecture 101 - What's my first step? <>
04:04<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Cannot reach server? <> || Web Servers and Web App Development • Why so much RAM used on website? <>
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04:14<linbot>New news from forum: Web Servers and Web App Development • Why so much RAM used on website? <>
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04:24<linbot>New news from forum: Web Servers and Web App Development • Why so much RAM used on website? <>
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04:34<jane>I was trying to register but I don't see Palestine in the list of countries
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04:51<ponas>I guess it's listed as "Israel" :thinking_face:
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05:44<linbot>New news from forum: Web Servers and Web App Development • Why so much RAM used on website? <>
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07:08<tafa2>just spun my first CentOS...
07:08<tafa2>Defo not in Debian territory anymore...
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07:25<john>Is your vps has cpanel?
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07:26<nate>john: Only with managed and professional I believe. Otherwise you can get your own VPS license from cPanel for like $20/m
07:27<tafa2>you can get it for $13
07:27<tafa2>from other providers :)
07:27<nate>tafa2: Well there are resellers that get cheap sure, I just go by cPanel's own-pricing though
07:27<Zimsky>imagine paying $20/month for a bit of shitty software while paying $5/month for the server
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07:27<Zimsky>something doesn't make sense here
07:27<tafa2>Zimsky I'm looking into cPanel for the first time now
07:27<tafa2>Just installing my first trial
07:27<Zimsky>except the cpanel people, they're making lots of cents
07:28<tafa2>I love my LEMP stacks
07:28<nate>tafa2: Are you getting it for like actual 'accounts' hosting or just for management?
07:28<Zimsky>that's disgusting
07:28<tafa2>but it's just easier man
07:28<tafa2>nate for actual accounts hosting
07:28<tafa2>too many little wordpress blogs
07:28<Zimsky>I prefer to use FERP
07:29<Zimsky>freebsd, nginx, ruby, postgres
07:29<tafa2>clients want to be able to change they're settings, it works very well with WHMCS
07:29<Zimsky>that's disgusting
07:29<tafa2>lol Zimsky I hear you
07:29<tafa2>but it works
07:30<Zimsky>so does the conservative party, but I still don't vote for them
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07:30<tafa2>Tories don't work?
07:30<tafa2>they haven't done shit since maggy
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07:31<Zimsky>they function at a basic level, like a single-celled organism
07:31<Zimsky>but they're not good at anything else apart from existing
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07:45<linbot>New news from forum: Performance and Tuning • Architecture 101 - What's my first step? <>
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09:35<Megaf>folks, with this ''new'' billing system, How does it work? Will the bill stop if my Linode is turned off?
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09:39<ponas>Megaf: linodes are billed as long as they exist
09:39<Megaf>so I don't get what's the difference
09:40<ponas>when turned off, resources are still reserved on the host machine
09:40<ponas>i.e. RAM and disk
09:42<hawk>Megaf: If you have more traditional long-running servers it doesn't make much difference
09:42<hawk>Megaf: If you spin up VMs on demand, it makes a difference
09:44<Megaf>welp, it was good using Linode for more than 7 years. But Im afraid this is coming to an end
09:45<linbot>New news from forum: Feature Request/Bug Report • how to apply my godaddy wildcard ssl certificate on my linode hosted website subdomains ? <>
10:12<Zimsky>has this concept not been apparent to you for the past <~duration> it has existed?
10:13<Zimsky>or is this some weird grandfathered billing system
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10:21<Pal_>Hi, I am located in Canada, and do you charge any HST for Canadian customers
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10:25<smallclone>Pal_: probably not, but you might want to open a ticket to be sure
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10:35<linbot>New news from forum: Linux Networking • Route private traffic between multiple Linodes - simple route table question <>
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11:00<HoopyCat>Megaf: how much are you paying now for your linode
11:05<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Cannot reach server? <>
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12:04<Megaf>poonas, cost vs need vs benefit
12:04<Megaf>Linode pricing is not attractive at all for me currently. It was amazing back then, now the world changed.
12:05<Megaf>HoopyCat: since I'm using other services already I reduced my Linode to the lowest plan possible, 5 USD/month. But even that is not worth at all for me.
12:06<emerson>who are you using that is cheaper?
12:07<FluffyFoxeh>I mean there are cheaper VPS providers of course but it shows in the quality of support and the general experience
12:10<dzho>Megaf: you know, since this is a community channel, you can totes share who you think is the better deal.
12:11<dzho>then we can all decide for ourselves whether your trade-offs match our own needs.
12:11<Megaf>I mean, Linode services, staff and community are awesome
12:11<Megaf>and it's the staff and community that kept me with them for so long
12:12<dzho>who's good? dish!
12:12<Megaf>emerson: I got a couple of dedicated servers
12:12<Megaf>I'm no longer using VPS
12:12<emerson>ah, okay
12:12<Megaf>so the ratio price/performance is just, well, can't compare to freenode
12:13<dzho>yeah, if you have ongoing need for resources, and at sufficient scale, it isn't too hard to see that can make sense.
12:13<Megaf>now I have 4 real cores just for myself and all IO I want
12:13<dzho>s/ongoing/predictable, ongoing/
12:13<Megaf>next step is colocation :)
12:13<dzho>mmm hmmm
12:13<Megaf>just couldnt find anything attractive for me yet
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12:14<dzho>then running your own data centers, and then world domination
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12:14<Megaf>I would totally run my own datacentre if I could
12:14<FluffyFoxeh>colocation is fun. particularly the part where they don't tell you how much it costs :p
12:14<Megaf>security the data is complicated tho
12:14<Megaf>FluffyFoxeh: precisely
12:14<FluffyFoxeh>I guess it's in "if you have to ask, you can't afford it" territory
12:14*dzho wonders how there seems to be a slight South African accent to the laughter
12:15<Megaf>man, am I going to miss Linodes dashboard
12:15<Megaf>got so used to it
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12:16<Megaf>and I will have to setup all my DNS servers again, that's gonna be some pain
12:16<FluffyFoxeh>I wish I had moar money so I could have more servers
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12:17<Megaf>since I have a dedicated now, I was actually thinking about selling VPSes :P
12:17<posh>How do i get vps root
12:17<posh>I paid for your site already
12:17<FluffyFoxeh>You set a root password when you deploy
12:18<FluffyFoxeh>and then you can log in with SSH
12:18<grawity>click "Add a linode"
12:18<posh>I don't want distraction is there a way we can chat
12:18<dzho>posh: it's not our site, we're just customers, most of us.
12:20<Megaf>posh: you click add linode. Then you read instructions and done
12:20<Megaf>posh: and you can do stuff here ->
12:20<grawity>hmm, doesn't the payment happen while adding a linode, anyway?
12:21<grawity>so if you already have a VPS created, go to its Dashboard -> Remote Access
12:21<Megaf>yep. It looks like someone didn't pay attention when making a Linode
12:21<posh>I made pay ment of 500$
12:21<posh>i am in the manage
12:21<dzho>we don't want to know your payment details
12:21<dzho>and you don't want us to know
12:21<Megaf>So you should have read what was in front of your eyes
12:21<posh>Do i need to add cpu to get vps
12:22<Megaf>Possible troll detected
12:22<posh>I need vps
12:22<grawity>should have paid for a sysadmin tbh
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12:23<Megaf>posh: pay me $5,000.00 and I can set up the VPS for you
12:23<FluffyFoxeh>read things before throwing money at them
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12:23<Megaf>What was that?
12:28<Megaf>I was actually hoping he paid me 5k
12:28<dzho>you know, I sort of was, too.
12:29<Megaf>It'd be nice, wouldn't it?
12:29<Megaf>I'd give some money to you guys then
12:30<Megaf>Like, 100 USD for each of there were talking at the moment
12:30<Megaf>maybe 1000 USD to the open document foundation
12:30<Megaf>and the remaining would be to pay my rent :P
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12:32<HoopyCat>Megaf: on the old pre-paid monthly billing, you'd pay $5/mo. on the new post-paid hourly billing, you'll pay $5/mo. but it's moot anyway
12:39<Megaf>I still have no idea what's the difference
12:41<tafa2>does anyone know how the hell I use letsencrypt from within WHM/cPanel to install a certificate on the server's hostname?
12:41<tafa2>How and why is cPanel the leading f'ing solution? So bloody bloated and complicated!
12:43<HoopyCat>Megaf: for persistent VMs, there is none. only difference is when creating/destroying them; previously there'd be a pro-rated charge on creation and a pro-rated refund on deletion, now there's just a charge at the end of the month
12:44<Megaf>HoopyCat: aha, so that's why Linode loves the new billing system so much
12:44<Megaf>they save money in refunds
12:45<HoopyCat>Megaf: i misread things and thought the billing change was the reason for your departure... however, not needing any VMs at all is a perfectly reasonable reason to have none ^^
12:46<Megaf>I mean, if I had 4 cores, 4 GB of RAM and 100 GB of storage for 10 USD, then I would stay
12:48<HoopyCat>Megaf: not even that, since the refunds were account credit and not CC refunds... mostly i think the benefit is that it makes short-term VMs much more attractive. if it's the first of the month and i need six hours of a Linode 200GB, getting dipped $960 and getting a $928 account credit kiiiinda sucks more than getting charged $8.64 when i'm done with it
12:49<Megaf>HoopyCat: yep, You gave some good examples, I see now. Thanks, And I understand
12:49<Megaf>It's just that for me it was never too different
12:49<Megaf>because 7 years Linode... I couldn't care less when the bill would come
12:49<HoopyCat>Megaf: also note that the $5/mo includes DNS Manager, which may actually be worth it
12:50<Megaf>believe it or not, I am unemployed, and I can't afford not even that at the moment
12:51<Megaf>yes, I got some dedicateds, and I pay less than what I paid for Linode
12:52<HoopyCat>Megaf: also totally reasonable. just mentioning that 'cuz it's kinda skookum.
12:52<emerson>HoopyCat: tbf, for free you can get cloudflare or HE dns, neither of which have a 15 minute delay
12:53<HoopyCat>Megaf: no matter what, do what you need to do. it's okay.
12:54<HoopyCat>emerson: free stuff is too expensive much of the time, but that's a good point
12:54<tafa2>what the hell are you guys talking about
12:56<emerson>HoopyCat: that's why i run my own nameservers and stuff :p
12:59<HoopyCat>tafa2: i'm just over here bein' compassionate, and providing information to someone who is in a position of needing to make hard choices to survive
13:01<microvb>how can I run `fsck -fdv` on my drive ? it won't let me shell in or anything at the moment so I need to use Lish.
13:02<HoopyCat>microvb: i'd probably boot into recovery mode and then do it from there
13:04<HoopyCat>microvb: ... search for "rescue mode" and hit up the "Rescue and Rebuild" page
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13:15<tafa2>HoopyCat how selffless of you
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13:19<microvb>HoopyCat - thank you
13:19<microvb>just worked through the process, and seeing if that fixed the 'random' problem
13:20<microvb>fixed. thank god
13:23<millisa>tafa2: do you want actual LE certs or just valid free certs? cpanel has their own free/valid ones via 'autossl' -
13:24<tafa2>I was trying to figure out how to do LE certs
13:24<millisa>the cpanel free ones work similarly (short expiration, auto renewal, etc). they are comodo based
13:25<tafa2>any good?
13:25<HoopyCat>tafa2: life sucks, capitalism is broken, we're stuck on a rock orbiting a star out in the middle of nowhere... all we really got are ourselves and each other
13:25<millisa>seems to work just fine
13:25<tafa2>first cpanel server I've ever installed
13:25<HoopyCat>microvb: yay!!
13:26<millisa>(there's a link on that blog to another blog where they talk about added LE to autossl)
13:28<tafa2>cool thanks millisa
13:28<tafa2>HoopyCat don't forget food
13:28<tafa2>we have food too...
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13:32<Demo>hey I need inspiring what to use my Linode for - already have a lemp stack for development, nextcloud for file storage, what games do you recommend etc?
13:33<Demo>or any useful applications?
13:33<millisa>they make just fine factorio and terraria servers if you play either of those.
13:34<millisa>There are a few howtos for others;
13:35<Demo>thanks millisa!
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13:36<tafa2>Demo can always mine some coins I suppose
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13:39<@gjjansen>Yeah. That doesn't really work...
13:40<tafa2>the flooding or the mining?
13:41<Ikaros>The flooding.
13:41*Ikaros takes the IP and adds it to his net's blacklist as well
13:48<tafa2>millisa have you configured a cpanel dns only cluster?
13:49<millisa>Sorry, no. The users always foul it up if they are allowed to touch it and then wonder why their mail stops working.
13:50<tafa2>So you configuring all DNS records manually?
13:51<millisa>yeah, usually at linode (all my cpanel systems happen to be at linode...)
13:52<Demo>tafa2: I will look into the mining, thank you
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14:28<waltman>Eugene: What about nights?
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14:34<sven>We had a spike of 100% CPU today
14:34<sven>on our webserver, which caused downtime/slow performance of apache
14:34<sven>I'm kind of a noob in sysadmin, and looking for help
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14:47<ili4>Hi guys! Have somebody installed custom linux from iso?
14:48<millisa>well, sort of
14:48<Eugene>waltman - wait and find out
14:48<Eugene>Its friday, so theres a 100% chance of toweling
14:48<ili4>I'm trying to install CRUX followin this manual. I see only boot menu.
14:49<ili4>When I choose to install in text mode I see onlu black screen((
14:49*FluffyFoxeh towels Eugene
14:50<smallclone>in glish?
14:51<smallclone>tbh i don't really know why the installer specifically wouldn't show up, if the menu did
14:52<ili4>in lish. glish doesn't starts at all. only "noVNC" message
14:53<smallclone>lish most likely isn't going to work out of the box at all
14:53<smallclone>particularly for the installer
14:53<ili4>i have installed from this iso many times
14:53<smallclone>on a Linode?
14:54<ili4>on real machines
14:54<smallclone>not really saying the installer doesn't work
14:54<ili4>installation process goes in text mode
14:54<smallclone>i'm saying lish isn't going to work until it is set up after the fact
14:54<smallclone>on like, almost every distro out there
14:55<smallclone>glish is largely what makes the whole custom iso thing possible
14:55<smallclone>well that and some other kvm stuff
14:57<smallclone>glish can be kinda unreliable though, that message could just mean your browser doesn't support something glish uses
14:57<smallclone>that's fairly common
14:57<ili4>support says that glish can launch if guest os runnig in graphical mode, not in text.
14:57<ili4>i tried to use latest firefox and chrome
14:58<smallclone>did you try it incognito / with plugins disabled?
14:58<ili4>mayme i should try IE?))
14:59<ili4>no, all plugins was disabled
15:01<tafa2>Linode pleaaaaaase get ISO loading up and running
15:01<tafa2>or just widen your catalogue...
15:01<millisa>ili4: i just grabbed a crux iso and followed that guide. I've got a glish prompt open to the 'boot:' prompt
15:02<smallclone>i'm glad millisa did that because i was about to
15:02<smallclone>and i really should be doing my actual day job
15:02<millisa>(I dont know what crux is, figured I'd look)
15:02<ili4>thanks, what browser do you use?
15:02<Eugene>I've been asking for ISO support for years. Nada. :-(
15:02<Ikaros>tafa2: Heh. I just threw my own distro image onto a disk image, loaded that, and ran the installer from that via glish as if it were a CD drive.
15:02<Ikaros>That's how I installed mine.
15:03<millisa>ili4: used chrome (on osx, but I doubt it matters in this case)
15:03<tafa2>Yeah I did something similar for FreePBX
15:03<tafa2>but still
15:03<tafa2>one click load ISO would be nice
15:03<Eugene>It would lead to a lot more Winodes
15:04<Ikaros>Geh. Why would you ever run Windows
15:04<millisa>for dungeon keeper 2?
15:04<tafa2>or minesweeper?
15:05<smallclone>microsoft fax
15:05<Ikaros>Don't need to be running a friggin' desktop environment on a SERVER.
15:05<tafa2>what if you wanted to roll your own version of norton antivirus in the cloud?
15:05<Ikaros>That's always been how I work
15:05<Ikaros>No DE on a server.
15:05<tafa2>Ikaros you missing out
15:05<smallclone>i install the compiz cube on ALL my servers
15:05<Ikaros>You aren't comfortable on a command line you don't need to be working on a server.
15:05<Ikaros>I'm sorry
15:06<tafa2>I've got some VPS over the water guys - I run CS:GO and VNC onto them all teh time
15:06<tafa2>4FPS - ultimate gaming rig man
15:06<tafa2>but latency is 2ms
15:06<Ikaros>Yeah come back when you up that to 60+ fps
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15:06<tafa2>ok Ikaros you realise smallclone and I are totally being sarcastic yes?
15:07<Ikaros>Yeah sarcasm detector does not function well on RIC
15:07<Ikaros>Ok let me go throw this failure of a keyboard out the window.
15:07<tafa2>microsoft fax, CS:GO via VNC at 4FPS? None of that tipped you off? :)
15:07<Ikaros>because I am totally embarrased that I typoed an acronym.
15:08<Ikaros>It really doesn't when I've been awake for 18 hours and counting.
15:08<smallclone>i haven't used windows in years but i'm probably about to build a pc
15:08<smallclone>does win10 suck?
15:09<Ikaros>It has its ups and downs like any Windows version.
15:09<Ikaros>I'll put it like that
15:09<Ikaros>I should know, I run it on my main PC
15:09<smallclone>the weird ubuntu vm thing seems neat
15:10<Ikaros>Yeah, I do actually like that.
15:10<millisa>(is this crux install really this manual? you manually create the partitions, do the mkfs/mkswap, do mounts and such like ? or am I missing a pretty installer?)
15:10<smallclone>crux is super minimal
15:10<Ikaros>I mean I recognize it's not a true Linux environment but it's good for getting your feet wet with Linux if you were so inclined.
15:11<ili4>millisa: yes, its very nice!
15:11<millisa>alright then. fun!
15:11<Ikaros>I've found Win10 to be a lot more responsive than Win7 was, at least on my PC there's that.
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15:11<tafa2>smallclone windows 10 does suck yes
15:11<tafa2>windows 7 is amazing though
15:11<Q3Man>Two things.. First - is down
15:11<smallclone>if it means having linux packages locally installed and accessible without some kind of virtualbox/vagrant/whatever else work then
15:11<smallclone>it honestly seems nice
15:11<Ikaros>Downside is compatibility - I've had at least a few games of mine that didn't work, or didn't work right under 10
15:12<Ikaros>Which was highly disappointing.
15:12<smallclone>Q3Man: is that even a thing?
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15:12<waltman>win10 certainly uses friendlier fonts than win7 :)
15:12<Q3Man>well, it's linked to at the header of every linode management page :)
15:12<Ikaros>I've also had my UI break down at times too (Start Menu randomly not working, icons freezing/misbehaving, things like that)
15:13<Q3Man>Second, I'm trying to configure alert/usage notifications on hosts created through the legacy CLI/API. Right now, when I create hosts they have the default alerts and I don't see a way to change them. Any suggestions?
15:13<smallclone>i liked win7 well enough when i used it like..5 years ago
15:13<ili4>millisa: its true linux! no gui, no wizards, just do things by your hands))
15:13<waltman>When you login or upgrade it pops up messages in a large, friendly font.
15:13<Ikaros>And of course who can forget the privacy issues with it?
15:14<Ikaros>Fortunately for me, and UNfortunately for Microsoft, I control that at the one device they have no control over. My outbound firewall.
15:14<smallclone>yeah that was one of the things i was a little worried about
15:14<Ikaros>So for me at least, that issue isn't a problem for me.
15:15<Ikaros>I know my networking enough to be able to thwart their telemetry attempts.
15:16<Ikaros>I suppose the biggest downsides for me have been the compatibility with my games, and the random UI issues that repeatedly occur.
15:17<smallclone>haha it sounds like you're describing desktop linux
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15:17<ili4>millisa: i just loaded CentOS profile, created by "Deploy an Image", lish works well, but glish shows message "noVNC ready: native WebSockets, canvas rendering" whth continious page resresh. Latest Chrome on win10.
15:18<Ikaros>Still, I like Linux more. Enough that I took a laptop, wiped Windows and everything completely off the hard drive, and installed Linux Mint on it.
15:18<copart>Q3Man: I get 403 Forbidden for
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15:19<Q3Man>copart - same
15:19<millisa>ili4: just powered up a win10 box. used chrome. glish seems to open on the crux install I have going
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15:20<millisa>that bar that has the canvas rendering bit should change to 'starting vnc handshake'
15:21<Ikaros>As stated before, been up going on 18 hours now. I'm spent.
15:21*Ikaros goes to pass out
15:21<millisa>ili4: make sure you dont have some other window that thinks it's running glish open?
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15:22<ili4>millisa: no other windows. Wonderful! Glish started in Edge right now!))
15:22<millisa>well, that's something at least.
15:23<ili4>and i see installation process in Edge
15:24<ili4>thanks for help!
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16:56<Guest3828>does linode still provide the $50 credit for new account?
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16:58<smallclone>Guest3828: i don't really know when they ever provided that much... there's the LINODE10 promo code
16:58<smallclone>for $10
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16:59<smallclone>those kinds of larger credits are typically only given out at events
16:59<smallclone>and they expire when the event is over
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17:00<Guest3828>ok.. thanks
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17:11<Eugene>Ikaros - Active Directory is a great directory(LDAP) service, as well as integration with basically ever ENTERPRISE auth ever made. That's why.
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19:57<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • libra weekend horoscope love <>
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21:28<Zimsky>Eugene: no
21:41<Eugene>Zimsky - three fiddy
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22:49<millisa>Chat, ask questions about linode. Mostly we do english.
22:50<kaiboshen>waht can i do,at here?
22:50<millisa>Mostly we talk about Linode and Linode related things.
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22:57<Eugene>Every night I'm a towel
22:57<@bhanks>yes you are
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23:20*Zimsky sets fire to Eugene
23:21<@bhanks>well well well
23:21<@bhanks>all we are missing is Woet
23:25<millisa>"Cpanel is the absolute best!" "I want to buy vps" "How many sites can I have?"
23:25<Zimsky>I don't think anyone is missing Woet
23:25<millisa>weird. should we call 911?
23:26<Zimsky>it's 112
23:26<millisa>or 0118 999 881 999 119 725 3
23:26<@bhanks>!point millisa
23:26<linbot>bhanks: Point given to millisa. (41)
23:27<Ikaros>What was that one you could say to Siri and she'd actually try to call emergency services not-in-US? >.>
23:28<millisa>it was 112
23:28<Ikaros>Yup that was it.
23:28<Zimsky>112 is what is supposed to be the emergency number
23:28<Zimsky>in the EU it is
23:33<Ikaros>Also hooray for power failure earlier. Apparently my system "rebooted without cleanly shutting down first". Found that my home server had also gone down unexpectedly around that point too.
23:35<Ikaros>I'm telling you it's all the freaking damn blackbirds that sit on the lines upstream from me. And by that I mean an unGODLY amount of them. That if they all took off at once the sky would be briefly black.
23:35<Zimsky>bhanks: hasn't Woet hurt you enough already?
23:35<@bhanks>oh i love all of the kids equally Zimsky
23:35<@bhanks>even Woet
23:35<millisa>No love for the grackle
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23:39<Zimsky>millisa: what's the grackle?
23:40<millisa>the swarming blackbirds of texas
23:40<millisa>looks like this at sundown. and is ungodly loud.
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23:53<HoopyCat>Ikaros: that's usually somewhat of a bad omen, in some traditions
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23:58<Ikaros>millisa: Ok, picture that x10, and that's what I see every freaking morning and evening in one specific spot on the power lines upstream from me. I've had occasional brownouts (albeit brief), and now apparently a brief blackout as well (given my stuff reset here at the apartment).
23:59<Ikaros>I honestly don't understand what it is about that one area they like so much
23:59<millisa>i'm not sure if they still do it, but they used to have the maintenance teams out at UT in the evenings - they'd walk in this skirmish line with rifles that shot these firecracker rounds that would go off about a second after they left the muzzle
23:59<Ikaros>But it puts a hell of a strain on the power lines up that way, and unfortunately for me those lines eventually traverse and feed into the ground unit that powers my side of the complex.
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