| --- | Log | opened Fri Feb 16 00:00:09 2018 |
| 00:00 | <millisa> | This doc goes over some of the bits not covered in the lemp guide you followed : https://linode.com/docs/web-servers/nginx/how-to-configure-nginx/#name-based-virtual-hosting |
| 00:01 | <millisa> | (you may want to read over the listening ports section above the virtual host section where it talks about the default_server on the listen line) |
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| 00:02 | <bilal> | hey there? |
| 00:03 | <millisa> | hey hey hey |
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| 00:03 | <bilal> | i want to chat with support. can you help me? |
| 00:04 | <millisa> | !ops |
| 00:04 | <linbot> | Users with ops are employees of Linode, and know what they're talking about. The rest of us are the ever-so-helpful(?) community. Official Linode contact information: https://www.linode.com/contact |
| 00:04 | <@bhanks> | hey bilal what can we help you with? |
| 00:04 | <millisa> | If you've got a general question, just ask; someone may know |
| 00:04 | <bilal> | my website is sl slow . just a hour ago |
| 00:04 | <Ikaros> | (I could swear that bhanks has some sort of trigger when someone says !ops) |
| 00:05 | <millisa> | !bhanks |
| 00:05 | <@bhanks> | I just live at Linode. I dont leave or sleep. |
| 00:05 | <@bhanks> | bilal what troubleshooting have you done thus far? |
| 00:05 | <bilal> | even a single request is not load properly |
| 00:06 | <bilal> | can you tell me is there is any issue with the server or my website? |
| 00:06 | <@bhanks> | we can check that for you, but you'll need to open a support ticket via the Linode Manager so we can authenticate you. you should describe the problem in as much detail as possible. |
| 00:06 | <@bhanks> | including what troubleshooting you've already done |
| 00:07 | <bilal> | ok thanks. |
| 00:07 | <@bhanks> | but keep in mind- we're an unmanaged infra provider so we do not log into your server for you and we cant make any changes for you. we can check things on our side and point you in the right direction for other stuff :) |
| 00:09 | <bilal> | ok .. but it will really helpful if you can check this site for me now.. http://wativ.com |
| 00:10 | <bonk> | Ok I added that but it still redirects me here: https://pilgrimaudio.com/cgi-sys/defaultwebpage.cgi |
| 00:13 | <bonk> | https://bpaste.net/show/bd0c142c4876 here is the file. |
| 00:13 | <millisa> | bonk: did you check you nginx config (nginx -t) then reload nginx after making your change? |
| 00:13 | <bonk> | nope |
| 00:14 | <bonk> | I will do that now. |
| 00:15 | <millisa> | (you may want to fiddle with your port 80 section, too) |
| 00:16 | <bonk> | ok so the test failed. |
| 00:18 | <millisa> | it often tells you why |
| 00:22 | <bonk> | https://bpaste.net/show/8b30e2193c8e |
| 00:24 | <bonk> | ok when I run sudo nginx -t it passes |
| 00:25 | <millisa> | go for the reload then |
| 00:25 | <millisa> | or nginx restart, whichever makes you happiest |
| 00:26 | <bonk> | still redirects me to this https://pilgrimaudio.com/cgi-sys/defaultwebpage.cgi |
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| 00:30 | <millisa> | that path looks cpanelish... |
| 00:30 | <millisa> | are you sure you are hitting your linode? |
| 00:31 | <millisa> | (I don't see port 443 open on it) |
| 00:32 | <Peng> | They left. :X |
| 00:33 | <millisa> | bilal did |
| 00:34 | <bonk> | well I am sure that www.pilgrimaudio.com is |
| 00:34 | <bonk> | how can I be sure the other is? |
| 00:36 | <millisa> | if I run nmap on the IP I get for pilgrimaudio.com or www.pilgrimaudio.com (it's the same IP), I only see port 22 and 80 open. |
| 00:37 | <millisa> | remember when you did the 'ufw allow 80' to allow http traffic? You need to similarly allow 443 for https traffic. |
| 00:38 | <millisa> | but I'm wagering you have some locally cached dns or something since it's unlikely you'd be getting something pointing at the /cgi-sys/defaultwebpage.cgi path (try pinging both names from a command prompt, you probably aren't seeing your linode ip) |
| 00:40 | <bonk> | yes I just opened up to https thanks. I had forgotten to do that in this install. |
| 00:40 | <millisa> | look at that, 443 is open |
| 00:41 | <bonk> | ping does hit the right ip for both. |
| 00:41 | <millisa> | https://pilgrimaudio.com/ - gives me a hello world. https://www.pilgrimaudio.com appear to redir me to https://pilgrimaudio.com |
| 00:41 | <bonk> | but it looks like the port was the problem. It woks now. |
| 00:42 | <millisa> | http://www.pilgrimaudio.com 404's (fix the second server{} block's server name) |
| 00:47 | <bonk> | that does not seem to help. I put server_name *.pilgrimaudio.com; for both server blocks. |
| 00:49 | <Peng> | Oh, oops, I confused the two "b" nicks. :X |
| 00:53 | <millisa> | bonk: http://nginx.org/en/docs/http/server_names.html#wildcard_names (you might want '.pilgrimaudio.com' and not '*.pilgrimaudio.com') |
| 00:53 | <bonk> | i just changed it back to www.pilgrimaudio.com and it did not make any difference. |
| 00:58 | <bonk> | I also tried the .pilgrimaudio.com and nothing changes |
| 00:58 | <millisa> | what do you mean nothing changes? |
| 00:58 | <bonk> | I mean when loading in browser no change. |
| 00:58 | <millisa> | Your config has a 'if ($host = somename)' section. |
| 00:59 | <millisa> | if you want that to apply to other names, you'd need to modify it appropriately |
| 01:01 | <Peng> | Or, better, not use if ($host at all |
| 01:01 | <millisa> | (personally not a fan of if, see 'ifisevil' in the nginx docs) |
| 01:01 | <millisa> | this is my own ignorance - that bit about 'managed by Certbot' did certbot throw that if in there? |
| 01:02 | <bonk> | yes that was put there by certbot. |
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| 01:04 | <millisa> | yuck. someone else called them on it for one of the other bits last year: https://github.com/certbot/certbot/issues/4355 |
| 01:12 | <Peng> | Yeah. I don't blame Certbot for doing it. It's hard to reliably edit config files. |
| 01:13 | <millisa> | i haven't done enough with the auto config stuff to know what it throws into files. does it expand that if automatically if you throw more domains at it? |
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| 01:14 | <Peng> | Probably? It works correctly, AFAIK, but I'm not sure what it does. |
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| 01:19 | <bonk> | yeah I am not sure. I guess I could rerun it and see what it does. |
| 01:20 | <millisa> | rerun it with more names. -d pilgrimaudio.com -d www.pilgrimaudio.com |
| 01:28 | <bonk> | yeah that did it. it added a second if statement |
| 01:29 | <bonk> | thanks again millisa you are the best. |
| 01:29 | <millisa> | interesting. |
| 01:29 | <millisa> | !point bonk |
| 01:29 | <linbot> | millisa: Point given to bonk. (1) |
| 01:29 | <bonk> | tell me what the point thing is. I saw someone do that the other day? |
| 01:30 | <@scrane> | It's sort of like Whose Line Is It Anyway |
| 01:30 | <@bhanks> | Except Linode is not made up |
| 01:30 | <millisa> | a kudo. |
| 01:30 | <@scrane> | they can be a way of giving 'props' or thanks to someone but they have no real impact. |
| 01:31 | <@bhanks> | and only Woet's points dont matter |
| 01:31 | <@scrane> | !unpoint jhaas |
| 01:31 | <linbot> | scrane: Point taken from jhaas! (-11) |
| 01:31 | <Woet> | bhanks: rude |
| 01:31 | <@bhanks> | <3 |
| 01:31 | <@bhanks> | missed u |
| 01:31 | <@bhanks> | !point Woet |
| 01:31 | <linbot> | bhanks: Point given to woet. (9) |
| 01:31 | <Woet> | same |
| 01:31 | <@bhanks> | 9? dismal. |
| 01:31 | <millisa> | I'm saving all my points up for the decoder ring. |
| 01:31 | <Woet> | !lick bhanks |
| 01:31 | <linbot> | Woet: Point given to bhanks. (7) |
| 01:31 | <@bhanks> | klsdfjkajfkjaks;df |
| 01:31 | <@bhanks> | bye |
| 01:31 | <Woet> | 7? |
| 01:32 | <bonk> | lol |
| 01:34 | <FluffyFoxeh> | hello my friends |
| 01:34 | <@scrane> | !towel bhanks |
| 01:34 | <linbot> | scrane: Point taken from bhanks! (6) |
| 01:35 | <@bhanks> | my fondest wish is for mcintosh to take pity on me and kick me from the channel soon |
| 01:35 | <FluffyFoxeh> | but bhanks |
| 01:35 | <FluffyFoxeh> | you're my special friend |
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| 01:36 | <@bhanks> | siiiiiiigh. <3 |
| 01:36 | <FluffyFoxeh> | :D |
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| 01:37 | <Ikaros> | If I might say so you guys are some of the most unorthodox support crew I've gotten to know, lol. And I mean that in a good way - not everyone in the business is this social with their customers. Not by a long shot. |
| 01:38 | <Woet> | i mean that in a bad way |
| 01:38 | * | Ikaros kicks Woet out a window |
| 01:38 | <@scrane> | Awww why thank you Ikaros! |
| 01:38 | <@scrane> | !point Ikaros |
| 01:38 | <linbot> | scrane: Point given to ikaros. (3) |
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| 01:41 | <Ikaros> | Trying to find positivity. Even though I'm sitting in an 86-degree (F) apartment right now, having to report for work in < 4 hours and unable to sleep, and looking at a USB 802.11ac wifi dongle I bought no more than 2 weeks ago that apparently now has a crack in the circutry somewhere. At least that's what I'd assume it flapping and appearing/disappearing from Windows with the "device malfunctioned" |
| 01:41 | <Ikaros> | messages popping up like crazy means. |
| 01:41 | <Ikaros> | So...yeah... |
| 01:43 | <Woet> | cant be positive when you use stupid units like fahrenheit |
| 01:46 | <Peng> | do you not respect Freedomheit |
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| 02:09 | <Zimsky> | no |
| 02:09 | <Zimsky> | why don't you just go and use old, outdated units like inches, yards, ounc- oh wait |
| 02:10 | <Zimsky> | Ikaros: lol 30C |
| 02:11 | <FluffyFoxeh> | that's a gross temperature |
| 02:11 | <Zimsky> | !wx YOOD |
| 02:11 | <linbot> | Zimsky: [metar] YOOD: not data available, valid code? |
| 02:11 | <Zimsky> | "not data available" |
| 02:12 | <Zimsky> | !wx UEEE |
| 02:12 | <linbot> | Zimsky: [metar] OBS at UEEE: -11.2F/-24C, visibility 9999 miles, wind 4.47 mph, chill -22.74F (altimeter: 30.031992711) [UEEE 160700Z 16002MPS CAVOK M24/M26 Q1017 R23L/490150 NOSIG RMK QFE754] |
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| 02:16 | <Gopal> | can any one from linode react? |
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| 02:17 | <millisa> | As in react to outside stimulus? |
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| 02:26 | <FluffyFoxeh> | I think they can |
| 02:27 | <FluffyFoxeh> | they even wrote a new open source manager using react |
| 02:27 | <FluffyFoxeh> | <3 |
| 02:37 | <Zimsky> | doubt it |
| 02:42 | <nate> | As someone who hasn't really pissed with old myisam in a long time, so long as a table is actually -not- corrupted/damaged, you can generally terminate a repair without it damaging things right? |
| 02:44 | <Zimsky> | sounds unhygienic |
| 02:44 | <Zimsky> | idk if i would piss with old myisam |
| 02:45 | <Zimsky> | see if the process is doing any writes |
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| 03:34 | <@bmartin> | Good day IRC |
| 03:49 | <linbot> | New news from forum: General Discussion • Ubuntu 16.04 Adding new Partitions <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15815&p=75929#p75929> |
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| 04:45 | <Baris> | Hi, in all Linode Servers, in any location in the World, the first connection is too slow |
| 04:45 | <Baris> | Since this morning |
| 04:46 | <Baris> | I'm receiving complaints from everywhere. |
| 04:46 | <Baris> | What's going on? |
| 04:46 | <Baris> | ping times are ok. |
| 04:47 | <@bmartin> | Hey Baris do you have a support ticket so we can take a look at this situation |
| 04:49 | <Baris> | I opened a ticket but we need an immediate intervention. |
| 04:49 | <@bmartin> | Can you provide that ticket number so we can begin looking further at the situation? |
| 04:50 | <Baris> | 9994629 |
| 04:50 | <Baris> | Just type https://www.spacedesigner3d.com/ in your browser |
| 04:50 | <@bmartin> | we will have someone take a look |
| 04:50 | <@bmartin> | loading that site now |
| 04:50 | <Baris> | or http://www.oenobook.com/ |
| 04:51 | <Baris> | Both are deadly slow. |
| 04:51 | <@bmartin> | Thank you. Can you also provide any log notes or things you may be seeing on your end |
| 04:51 | <@bmartin> | Please keep in mind that as an infrastructure provider, the configuration of your services on our platform is ultimately your responsibility, though we're happy to provide guidance whenever we can. |
| 04:51 | <Baris> | There is no change in configurations since months |
| 04:52 | <Baris> | And there is absolutely no common change in our independent servers. |
| 04:52 | <@bmartin> | someone is looking now |
| 04:52 | <Baris> | Concerning logs, I can provide apache logs but they will be just normal |
| 04:53 | <@bmartin> | we have marked it urgent and have someone looking into it now |
| 04:53 | <Baris> | OK |
| 04:59 | <Zimsky> | Baris: you know that both of those sites are behind cloudflare, right? |
| 05:01 | <Zimsky> | have you considered that cloudflare is your issue? |
| 05:01 | <Baris> | yes but others are not |
| 05:01 | <Baris> | An example: |
| 05:02 | <Baris> | 50.116.62.146 |
| 05:02 | <Zimsky> | okay? |
| 05:03 | <Baris> | 172.104.27.117 |
| 05:03 | <Zimsky> | not sure what you're getting at here |
| 05:04 | <Baris> | These ip's should reach our different servers, where the slowness is always there. |
| 05:04 | <Baris> | 97.107.133.180 |
| 05:04 | <Zimsky> | "slowness"? |
| 05:04 | <Baris> | Could you read the conversation above? |
| 05:04 | <Zimsky> | this is a public IRC channel, so yes |
| 05:04 | <Baris> | [10:45] <Baris> Hi, in all Linode Servers, in any location in the World, the first connection is too slow [10:45] <Baris> Since this morning [10:46] <Baris> I'm receiving complaints from everywhere. |
| 05:05 | <Zimsky> | that's an extremely ambiguous statement |
| 05:05 | <Zimsky> | perhaps check some of your configurations and do some troubleshooting to work out where the bottleneck is |
| 05:06 | <Baris> | Ok Zimsky, thank you for your non help. |
| 05:06 | <Baris> | Easy to say "check your config". |
| 05:06 | <Zimsky> | it's very easy to say that |
| 05:06 | <Zimsky> | because that's what should be done |
| 05:06 | <Baris> | So we have changed suddently all config of all our independent servers. |
| 05:07 | <Zimsky> | maybe |
| 05:07 | <Baris> | The only common point of these servers is they are under Linode. |
| 05:07 | <Zimsky> | the other common point is that they're all configured by you or your organisation |
| 05:07 | <Baris> | Zimsky, I have no time to argue with you, but just 100+ parrallel and 10.000+ daily users to take care. |
| 05:07 | <Zimsky> | and I have a cat to feed |
| 05:08 | <Baris> | So go feed it |
| 05:08 | <Zimsky> | done |
| 05:09 | <Zimsky> | anyway, you should understand that you need to do at least a modicum of troubleshooting to work out where and what the actual problem is before chalking it up to being the infrastructure provider's fault |
| 05:10 | <Zimsky> | or at least ask whoever configured your setup |
| 05:10 | <Baris> | Zimsky, it's done by 5 different engineers here, so I'm contacting Linode. |
| 05:11 | <Zimsky> | what's linode going to do but say "we're an infra provider"? |
| 05:11 | <Zimsky> | the onus is on you |
| 05:11 | <Baris> | YEs we suspect that there is a problem with the infrastructure. |
| 05:12 | <Zimsky> | so your lack of troubleshooting has led you to this conclusion |
| 05:12 | <Baris> | Because, nobody can / has rights to change all server configs without my approval. |
| 05:12 | <Zimsky> | that doesn't mean something else has gone wrong |
| 05:12 | <Baris> | I'm the lead dev of spacedesigner3d.com (but that's not the only one touched). |
| 05:12 | <Zimsky> | hasn't* |
| 05:12 | <Baris> | Ok Zimsky really don't have time. Please go learn life to someone else. |
| 05:13 | <Zimsky> | that's rude |
| 05:13 | <@bmartin> | Someone is currently working on your ticket Baris. I am seeing that the site is no longer loading slowly |
| 05:14 | <Baris> | bmartin: Yes this is the problem. First connection is EXTRA slow, then it accelerates for the given connection. |
| 05:14 | <@scrane> | Baris: I apologize, after doing a little investigating using the data you have provided, I am not certain this is an infrastructure problem. It appears connections are made to the Linode in appropriate time, however after the connection is made there is a delay with the webserver service returning the correct information. I would highly recommend taking a look at either your Apache logs or MySQL logs to see if that might provide more information. |
| 05:14 | <Baris> | We have verified this in several countries. |
| 05:15 | <@scrane> | I determined this by running the command curl -vIl 50.116.62.146 |
| 05:15 | <@gjjansen> | Baris: Update is out your way with a bit of information. |
| 05:17 | <Zimsky> | extra slow with extra tomatoes |
| 05:18 | <Zimsky> | and a side of ad hominem |
| 05:18 | <Zimsky> | ( ﾟ◡ﾟ) |
| 05:18 | <@gjjansen> | (⌐■_■) |
| 05:19 | <@bmartin> | ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) |
| 05:19 | <rsdehart> | (\/) (°,,°) (\/) |
| 05:19 | <Zimsky> | (° ͜ʖ°) |
| 05:19 | <@scrane> | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
| 05:19 | <Baris> | Everbody, we have 6 different servers under Linode. They are independent with different configuration, located in different places. Some of them are under cloudflare, some of them not. Nobody changed in config files of the servers running on these VPS. We have checked the logs to see if there is an attack of something, nothing. We have started to receive compaints of after other. The problem is once the user connected (in between 10 |
| 05:19 | <Baris> | given users, everything goes normal. |
| 05:20 | <Baris> | We have verified the ping times, server (mysql, apache) cpu, memory, consumptions, nothing different. |
| 05:20 | <Baris> | We have suspected cloudflare, but nothing. |
| 05:20 | <@scrane> | Has there been an increase in traffic at all? It may also be worthwhile to check the disk space and inodes on the Linode to make sure that hasn't been something that has slowly been rising and is causing problems. |
| 05:20 | <Baris> | So we said "hey perhaps there is an update in the infrastructure". |
| 05:20 | <Baris> | Nothing is status.linode.com |
| 05:21 | <Baris> | So I have contacted this IRC. |
| 05:21 | <@bmartin> | Did you receive the ticket update Baris? |
| 05:21 | <@bmartin> | Just to be clear people with @ are Linode employees |
| 05:21 | <@gjjansen> | !ops |
| 05:21 | <linbot> | Users with ops are employees of Linode, and know what they're talking about. The rest of us are the ever-so-helpful(?) community. Official Linode contact information: https://www.linode.com/contact |
| 05:31 | <Zimsky> | @ means they're snails |
| 05:31 | <@bhanks> | !point Zimsky |
| 05:31 | <linbot> | bhanks: Point given to zimsky. (8) |
| 05:31 | <Zimsky> | that's why it's slow |
| 05:31 | <@bhanks> | !unpoint Zimsky |
| 05:31 | <linbot> | bhanks: Point taken from zimsky! (7) |
| 05:31 | <Zimsky> | :D |
| 05:32 | <@scrane> | Yeah, but like... at least we pair well with garlic and oil. |
| 05:33 | <@bmartin> | I'm a Slug |
| 05:33 | <@bmartin> | I'm like pizza rat but after he gets hit by a car |
| 05:33 | <Zimsky> | why is that capitalised? |
| 05:33 | <Zimsky> | typical american capitalism |
| 05:33 | <@gjjansen> | Branding, baby! |
| 05:33 | <@bhanks> | im a raccoon |
| 05:33 | <@bhanks> | i like to dig through stuff |
| 05:34 | <@gjjansen> | bmartin pairs well with Morton™'s Salt! |
| 05:34 | <@bmartin> | I'm plenty salty already |
| 05:35 | <@bhanks> | that comes from interacting with me bmartin |
| 05:35 | <@bhanks> | so sorry |
| 05:36 | <@bmartin> | My blood is day old room temperature black coffee and salt |
| 05:36 | <@bmartin> | :crow: |
| 05:36 | <Zimsky> | uh |
| 05:37 | <Zimsky> | I'm not sure that's an efficient oxygen carrier |
| 05:37 | <Zimsky> | nor nutrient carrier |
| 05:37 | <@scrane> | But it carries the most important nutrient. |
| 05:37 | <rsdehart> | it's special hemoglobin-infused coffee |
| 05:37 | <@scrane> | the building block of life, if you will |
| 05:37 | <@bmartin> | I'm barely a human living creature |
| 05:37 | <@scrane> | caffeine |
| 05:38 | <Zimsky> | not if it's room temperature |
| 05:38 | <Peng_> | Zimsky: I'm not sure someone room temperature has quite the typical chemical composition |
| 05:38 | <Peng_> | d'oh |
| 05:38 | <@bmartin> | I'm a trenchcoat full of slugs that have formed together into a sentient being |
| 05:38 | <Zimsky> | yes Peng_ |
| 05:38 | <rsdehart> | bmartin is actually a coffee golem |
| 05:38 | <@bhanks> | can confirm |
| 05:39 | <@bmartin> | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
| 05:39 | <Zimsky> | sounds like quorum sensing |
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| 05:40 | <@bmartin> | d[ ๏ _ ◉ ]b |
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| 05:41 | <Zimsky> | huh, baris was connecting from france |
| 05:41 | <Zimsky> | it all makes sense now |
| 06:00 | <linbot> | New news from forum: Email/SMTP Related Forum • Can send emails locally but not to anyone else <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15804&p=75930#p75930> |
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| 06:30 | <linbot> | New news from forum: General Discussion • tarot gitano italiano <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15816&p=75931#p75931> |
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| 06:32 | <plencovich> | Hello, I still have problems accessing, I have not yet had an answer from support@linode.com |
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| 06:33 | <plencovich> | I have sent mail from another alternative account and nothing. |
| 06:35 | <@jackley> | plencovich: do you have a ticket number? |
| 06:40 | <linbot> | New news from forum: Performance and Tuning • Hugepages - why is it missing? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15677&p=75858#p75858> |
| 06:43 | <plencovich> | @jackley no, because I can not access my account, dashboard. |
| 06:44 | <@jackley> | plencovich: could you give us a call? we can try and locate your account over the phone |
| 06:44 | <@jackley> | +1-609-380-7100 |
| 06:44 | <plencovich> | mmm I am from Argentina, it complicates me |
| 06:45 | <@jackley> | ok |
| 06:45 | <@jackley> | plencovich: what email address are you using? |
| 06:45 | <@jackley> | plencovich: to email us? |
| 06:46 | <@jackley> | plencovich: I believe we just responded to your email |
| 06:46 | <plencovich> | yes, I just received an email |
| 06:47 | <Zimsky> | does argentina not have phones or something |
| 06:48 | <plencovich> | Zimsky Hahaha call to USA is very expensive. Email is the best. |
| 06:48 | <Zimsky> | las malvinas son argentinas |
| 06:48 | <nate> | linode doesn't have a toll-free 800? |
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| 06:50 | <plencovich> | Zimsky, mmm they are not at all, they lost them in 82 |
| 06:50 | <Zimsky> | not with that attitude |
| 06:52 | <plencovich> | It is not a matter of attitude, it is a matter of reality and legality. |
| 06:53 | <plencovich> | @jackley I answered the email from my alternative account. |
| 07:01 | <@jmetz> | thanks plenovich, you should have a reply on its way |
| 07:02 | <@jmetz> | plencovich* |
| 07:03 | <plencovich> | thanks @jmetz |
| 07:05 | <plencovich> | I do not understand why I do not receive mail from @linode in my account @ plencovich.com is hosted in gapps |
| 07:19 | <plencovich> | thanks for all! |
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| 07:30 | <linbot> | New news from forum: Sales Questions and Answers • Prices and EU VAT <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15456&p=75932#p75932> |
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| 08:05 | <Woet> | good morning bmartin, bhanks and scrane |
| 08:05 | <Woet> | my favorite Linode trifecta |
| 08:05 | <@bmartin> | Good day Woet |
| 08:06 | <Woet> | you guys gotta stop waking up so early |
| 08:06 | <Woet> | it isn't healthy |
| 08:06 | <@bmartin> | tell that to my work schedule |
| 08:06 | <Woet> | i already talked to HR about your behavior, I'll bring up the schedule next time |
| 08:06 | <@bmartin> | Shhhh I'm on thin ice as it is |
| 08:07 | <@bhanks> | OH HI WOET |
| 08:07 | <Woet> | not my fault you did those things to bhanks |
| 08:07 | <@bhanks> | excuse me |
| 08:07 | <Woet> | its okay bhanks i got your back |
| 08:07 | <@bhanks> | tread carefully |
| 08:07 | <@bmartin> | WHOA |
| 08:07 | <Woet> | he should never have slashed your tires |
| 08:07 | <@bmartin> | Scrane does all the car based mischief |
| 08:07 | <Woet> | he's just your fall guy |
| 08:08 | <Zimsky> | get |
| 08:09 | <@gjjansen> | Wow. I'm upset, Woet. |
| 08:09 | <Woet> | i'm sorry but you refused to marry me |
| 08:09 | <Zimsky> | I didn't realise it was legal for horses to marry |
| 08:09 | <@bmartin> | (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻ ＴＨＩＳ ＩＳ ＲＩＤＩＣＵＬＯＵＳ |
| 08:10 | <Woet> | only one part of me is similar to a horse ;) |
| 08:10 | <@gjjansen> | I'm guessing NL is a lot more forgiving about that. |
| 08:10 | <Woet> | ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) |
| 08:10 | <Zimsky> | yeah, the nostrils |
| 08:10 | <Woet> | gjjansen: dont bring up my unwanted citizenship |
| 08:11 | <Zimsky> | you don't want your danish citizenship? |
| 08:11 | <@gjjansen> | Oof. |
| 08:12 | <@gjjansen> | And NL is nice. |
| 08:12 | <Woet> | its not |
| 08:12 | <@gjjansen> | :shrug: |
| 08:13 | <Zimsky> | of course a jansen would say that |
| 08:13 | <Woet> | :slightly_frowning_face: |
| 08:13 | <Woet> | when are you inviting me to the Linode slack gjjansen |
| 08:13 | <Zimsky> | eugh |
| 08:13 | <@bmartin> | Linode slack is....interesting |
| 08:13 | <@bmartin> | I have made everyone regret using it :( |
| 08:14 | <Woet> | no surprise there |
| 08:14 | <Zimsky> | "did you see what woet and zimsky said on irc today?" |
| 08:14 | <Woet> | you probably added 50 different bots |
| 08:14 | <Peng_> | There's a Slack!? |
| 08:14 | <ponas> | :O |
| 08:14 | <Zimsky> | NO PENG |
| 08:14 | <@gjjansen> | I'm not an admin so I cannot. |
| 08:14 | <@bhanks> | we aren't allowed to mention Woet |
| 08:14 | <@bmartin> | I'm that guy at Linode that everyone sorta hopes they see an email about |
| 08:14 | <@bmartin> | wishing them luck in their future endeavours |
| 08:15 | <Woet> | :disappointed_relieved: |
| 08:15 | <Zimsky> | bhanks: so you're allowed to mention zimsky? |
| 08:15 | <@bhanks> | its all up in the air right now |
| 08:16 | <Woet> | so i left my suitcase with a hotel I'm staying at in a few days |
| 08:16 | <Woet> | and now they cancelled my reservation and removed my member number from it so its gone from my account' |
| 08:16 | <Woet> | ╱o╲ |
| 08:16 | <Woet> | (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻ ＴＨＩＳ ＩＳ ＲＩＤＩＣＵＬＯＵＳ |
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| 08:17 | <Zimsky> | are you looking for sympathy? |
| 08:17 | <@gjjansen> | You need to make sure that you flip a table at the hotel. |
| 08:17 | <Woet> | ill do my best |
| 08:18 | <@bmartin> | Or you could flip the hotel |
| 08:18 | <@bmartin> | ╱o╲ |
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| 08:20 | <Zimsky> | don't do that to italian hotels |
| 08:20 | <Zimsky> | please |
| 08:22 | <@gjjansen> | Woet's allowed outside of the country? |
| 08:22 | <@bmartin> | Woet is in international person of mystery |
| 08:22 | <Woet> | i haven't been in NL since November |
| 08:23 | <@bmartin> | if I leave the US, I am afraid I won't be allowed back |
| 08:24 | <Woet> | http://flightdiary.net/Woet |
| 08:25 | <Woet> | ill be back in may |
| 08:26 | <Woet> | because family event |
| 08:29 | <dzho> | I guess someone's got to carry the one-time pads |
| 08:30 | <@bmartin> | you do a bit of traveling there Woet |
| 08:30 | <@gjjansen> | Wow. That's a heck of a lot of travelling. |
| 08:30 | <Woet> | im hiding |
| 08:30 | <@gjjansen> | From authorities. |
| 08:31 | <dzho> | poorly |
| 08:31 | <Woet> | Zimsky mainly |
| 08:31 | <@gjjansen> | ^^ |
| 08:31 | <Zimsky> | what |
| 08:31 | <dzho> | lol |
| 08:31 | <Zimsky> | dzho: I can give you a one time pad ;) |
| 08:31 | <dzho> | I must have misheard the name of the children's property |
| 08:31 | <dzho> | "Where's Wouter" |
| 08:31 | * | Zimsky gives bhanks a one time pad |
| 08:32 | <Zimsky> | it's what friends are for. |
| 08:32 | <Woet> | Zimsky: at least give him a new one |
| 08:33 | <Woet> | bmartin: are you allowed to have a passport |
| 08:33 | <@bmartin> | I do have one |
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| 08:59 | <junico> | hi linode |
| 08:59 | <@bmartin> | Hi junico |
| 08:59 | <junico> | what are the ways of payment in Linode? |
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| 09:00 | <@bmartin> | !pay |
| 09:00 | <@bmartin> | Whoops |
| 09:00 | <@bmartin> | We require all accounts have a valid credit or debit card on them and we also accept PayPal payments |
| 09:00 | <junico> | can i pay by paypal without credit card? |
| 09:00 | <junico> | i dont have a credit card |
| 09:01 | <@bmartin> | There will need to be a valid card on the account. |
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| 09:01 | <junico> | ok i see |
| 09:01 | <@bmartin> | Credit or Debit card |
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| 09:02 | <dwfreed> | junico: you can use a prepaid card |
| 09:03 | <dwfreed> | creating an account requires the initial deposit to come from the card; after that, you can add credit with paypal |
| 09:03 | <junico> | ok thanks guys! |
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| 09:36 | <Woet> | bmartin: what kind of shifts do you have? |
| 09:36 | <Woet> | early morning? |
| 09:36 | <@bhanks> | yup |
| 09:37 | <@bhanks> | bmartin is everywhere at everytime |
| 09:37 | <@bhanks> | or is that me? hm |
| 09:37 | <@bmartin> | Earliest of mornings |
| 09:37 | <@bmartin> | but I exist outside of space and time |
| 09:37 | <Woet> | bhanks: why do you have so many trust and safety experts |
| 09:37 | <Woet> | does bmartin have trust issues? |
| 09:38 | <@bhanks> | we dont have too many. i can assure you that. |
| 09:38 | <Woet> | the about page says 5 |
| 09:38 | <@bhanks> | yes |
| 09:38 | <Woet> | that sounds like 4 too many |
| 09:38 | <@bhanks> | who would you choose to keep? |
| 09:38 | <Woet> | gjjansen of course |
| 09:38 | <@bhanks> | me too |
| 09:39 | <Woet> | to be honest I don't have a clue what you actually do |
| 09:39 | <Woet> | i'm guessing it's not opsec |
| 09:39 | <@bhanks> | we hold the secrets |
| 09:39 | <Woet> | you're not being very forthcoming |
| 09:40 | <@bhanks> | we do like abuse related stuff. fraud related stuff. and some other stuff. |
| 09:40 | <@bhanks> | >you're not being very forthcoming |
| 09:40 | <@bhanks> | quite a compliment for a T&S Expert! thanks Woet |
| 09:40 | <Woet> | anytime |
| 09:40 | <@bmartin> | Trust and Safety is basically internet SVU |
| 09:41 | <Woet> | i wish i had a job where i can abuse bmartin and get paid for it |
| 09:42 | <@bhanks> | Im Penelope Garcia from Criminal Minds and basically we just take a lot of videos of me doing pseudo-computer science stuff |
| 09:42 | <@bmartin> | I hit keyboards with a hammer |
| 09:42 | <@bmartin> | and tell people to reboot |
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| 09:50 | <Woet> | bhanks: i emailed abuse in April 2016 and Roland MacDavid didn't handle my complaint very well |
| 09:50 | <Woet> | I see you fired him |
| 09:50 | <Woet> | thanks |
| 09:51 | <@bhanks> | oh i love Roland. |
| 09:52 | <Woet> | i actually emailed abuse in January 2011 too |
| 09:52 | <Woet> | and Peter Sandin was very good |
| 09:52 | <Woet> | but I see you fired him too |
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| 09:52 | <smallclone> | you know some people do leave Linode without being fired |
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| 09:54 | <Woet> | (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻ ＴＨＩＳ ＩＳ ＲＩＤＩＣＵＬＯＵＳ |
| 09:55 | <@bmartin> | Ò_Ó |
| 09:56 | <Woet> | ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ raise your dongers ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ |
| 09:57 | <Woet> | bhanks: did you know I wrote a fully automated abuse platform? |
| 09:57 | <Woet> | you should hire me |
| 09:57 | <Peng_> | like, to create abuse? |
| 09:57 | <Woet> | I can automate your entire job |
| 09:57 | <Woet> | Peng_: optional addon |
| 09:57 | <@bmartin> | That may violate my parole |
| 09:58 | <Woet> | worth it |
| 09:58 | <smallclone> | just look at how much they abuse this channel! |
| 09:59 | <Woet> | just me |
| 10:01 | <eatonphil[m]> | is jhaas around? |
| 10:02 | <Woet> | he's more arectangle |
| 10:02 | <ponas> | jump host as a service? |
| 10:02 | * | eatonphil[m] le sigh |
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| 10:04 | <eatonphil[m]> | if someone sees jhaas (or jfred) can you ask him (them) to matrix me? |
| 10:04 | <@gjjansen> | eatonphil[m]: You got it. |
| 10:04 | <Woet> | do I need to physically see them |
| 10:04 | <Woet> | that'll be difficult |
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| 10:05 | <jfred[m]> | eatonphil: o/ |
| 10:05 | <@jhaas> | eatonphil[m] Hi :D |
| 10:06 | <Woet> | wow |
| 10:06 | <Woet> | they never show up when i ask for them |
| 10:06 | <Woet> | :( |
| 10:06 | <@bhanks> | i wonder why |
| 10:07 | <@gjjansen> | Gotta be nice to make friends. |
| 10:07 | <Woet> | how am I not nice |
| 10:07 | <@bhanks> | you're just Woet |
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| 10:07 | <Woet> | that |
| 10:08 | <Woet> | that's not very nice |
| 10:08 | <@bhanks> | im very nice |
| 10:08 | <smallclone> | yeah i wouldn't appreciate being called Woet |
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| 10:08 | <Woet> | （ ´_ゝ`） |
| 10:10 | <@bhanks> | alright alright play nice kids, we all have a special place in our hearts for Woet |
| 10:11 | <Woet> | （ ^_^）o自自o（^_^ ） ＣＨＥＥＲＳ！ |
| 10:12 | <@bhanks> | i mean- anytime someone comes in here needing help with some non-infra issue, woet is always so happy to let them know where to look for help! |
| 10:12 | <eatonphil[m]> | hey jhaas! I discovered matrix |
| 10:12 | <Woet> | bhanks: why are you being sarcastic |
| 10:12 | <@bhanks> | im not |
| 10:12 | <Woet> | d[ ๏ _ ◉ ]b |
| 10:13 | * | jhaas is currently boycotting matrix in most instances because jfred is dumb |
| 10:13 | * | Woet likes watching the matrix |
| 10:13 | <jfred[m]> | <3 matrix |
| 10:13 | * | gjjansen loves the scene where they pan around the kick |
| 10:13 | <@jhaas> | <3 matrix |
| 10:14 | <@jhaas> | ಠ_ಠ jfred |
| 10:14 | * | Woet loves the scene where they do the sexy stuff |
| 10:14 | <Woet> | "Video games, not guns, to blame for school shooting, says Kentucky gov" |
| 10:15 | * | Woet checks the NRA donation list |
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| 11:25 | <Eugene> | Every day I'm Linodin' |
| 11:26 | <Zimsky> | !towel Eugene |
| 11:26 | <linbot> | Zimsky: Point taken from eugene! (48) |
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| 11:30 | <Zimsky> | bmartin: if you exist outside of minkowski space, you can't interact with minkowski space |
| 11:30 | <Zimsky> | Peng_: snarky comments like that won't make you any friends here |
| 11:30 | <Zimsky> | please take your harassments elsewhere |
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| 11:54 | <bonk> | ok so i have the $5 linode thinking I could run a website with it but after installing eveything I have no room for a website. Is there a page to help me optimize this thing to make more room? |
| 11:54 | <bonk> | I have the LEMP stack installed |
| 11:56 | <retro|blah> | What does "df -h" say? |
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| 12:00 | <bonk> | oh wow. never mind. |
| 12:03 | <bonk> | ok so maybe this is not the issue I thought then. But I cannot make a disk image in the manager because it says: "Unable to create image. Size of disk (2186MB) is larger than the per-image limit of 2048MB." |
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| 12:04 | <bonk> | I saw that and thought that I had somehow gone over the allotted amount of disk space and did not bother to check...duuh |
| 12:04 | <bonk> | but how do I correct that issue. I would really like to save an image so that I do not have to go all the way back to square one if I mess something up. |
| 12:05 | <pablix10> | hi i have purshase from linode i have recieve the reciept but nothing else |
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| 12:05 | <smallclone> | bonk: when you deploy a distro on your Linode it uses all the storage space (minus your swap disk) by default |
| 12:05 | <smallclone> | reduce the size of your ubuntu / centos / whatever disk, and then you can create another one |
| 12:06 | <smallclone> | https://linode.com/docs/quick-answers/linode-platform/resize-a-linode-disk/ |
| 12:06 | <gparent> | There's a difference between linode images and disks themselves, bonk. |
| 12:06 | <smallclone> | oh wait i ignored that error message |
| 12:06 | <gparent> | the images are limited to 2048MB, but the disks are limited by whatever space your plan allots |
| 12:06 | <smallclone> | bonk: what you're talking about is a good use case for the backup service though |
| 12:07 | <bonk> | yes I am sure. |
| 12:07 | <bonk> | I may do that later I am just trying to figure things out right now. |
| 12:08 | <pablix10> | can any one here help me |
| 12:08 | <bonk> | so because I rebuilt from an image it made the disk size larger than what was there previously and now I have to resize that disk to get it to clone again. am I understanding this? |
| 12:08 | <pablix10> | i have purshase i have recive a receipt with payement. |
| 12:08 | <pablix10> | and nothing after |
| 12:08 | <smallclone> | pablix10: what else would you have? i mean you need to narrow down your question a bit. |
| 12:08 | <pablix10> | when o reset user or passowrd |
| 12:08 | <smallclone> | ok so you don't have access to your account |
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| 12:09 | <pablix10> | nothiings arrive to me mail |
| 12:09 | <smallclone> | pablix10: maybe there's another email on file for the account? if it's using your payment information, you can email support@linode.com and include the last six digits of the card on file |
| 12:09 | <pablix10> | yes i can't access to my account |
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| 12:10 | <smallclone> | assuming you already tried https://manager.linode.com/session/forgot/password |
| 12:10 | <pablix10> | — Instructions for completing the password reset may have been emailed to you. — |
| 12:10 | <pablix10> | ibut nothing come to my mail |
| 12:11 | <bonk> | I cloned the disk earlier and then messed everything up so I rebuilt from the clone. For some reason the new disk is larger than can be cloned again. I am not sure I understand why that would be. |
| 12:11 | <pablix10> | this is my email |
| 12:11 | <bonk> | check your spam box? |
| 12:11 | <pablix10> | admi@filmstreamfr.com |
| 12:11 | <smallclone> | pablix10: you shouldn't post your personal info here |
| 12:11 | <smallclone> | this is a community channel |
| 12:11 | <bonk> | is that supossed to be admin@....? |
| 12:12 | <smallclone> | ^ a good question though |
| 12:12 | <pablix10> | no |
| 12:12 | <pablix10> | just admi@ |
| 12:12 | <smallclone> | ok well i would suggest emailing support with the info i mentioned before |
| 12:12 | <Zimsky> | Woet: no |
| 12:12 | <Zimsky> | I'm not |
| 12:12 | <bonk> | make sure it is not going to a spam folder. |
| 12:12 | <smallclone> | if you are paying for the account you can get access to it even if your email isn't the one they have on file |
| 12:12 | <pablix10> | i have check spam and inbox |
| 12:12 | <pablix10> | nothing |
| 12:13 | <Zimsky> | it's a bit of a picnic here |
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| 12:16 | <pablix10> | how i can talk to support |
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| 12:16 | <smallclone> | seriously? |
| 12:17 | <pablix10> | can any one tell me how i can talk to support |
| 12:17 | <pablix10> | please |
| 12:17 | <smallclone> | https://i.imgur.com/LhJYv4a.png |
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| 12:19 | <Zimsky> | call them |
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| 12:30 | <bonk> | Ok I am not understanding the image thing. I am getting an error when trying to create an image that is saying my disk is too big. but I have resized it and it still gives me that error. I have one image saved and the docs say I can have up to three? What am I missing? |
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| 12:32 | <smallclone> | is your disk less than 2048MB? |
| 12:33 | <bonk> | In the dahsboard it tells me I have 100% allocated towards images |
| 12:34 | <smallclone> | don't go by that. that just means that all of your Linode's storage space is being used by disks |
| 12:35 | <bonk> | yes it is . I resized to 16,000MB just to be sure there was enough room. But I do not think that is how images work. |
| 12:36 | <smallclone> | use df -h to determine how much free space you actually have |
| 12:36 | <bonk> | I did my first image with no problem with the total space used. |
| 12:36 | <smallclone> | then if you can, resize the disk to under 2048MB before trying to capture an image |
| 12:39 | <bonk> | oh wait. I see now. I am using more than 2 Gig on the disk so it won't image anymore. |
| 12:39 | <bonk> | bummer |
| 12:39 | <smallclone> | you should really just use the backup service and save yourself the headache |
| 12:39 | <bonk> | I was getting stuck on disk size not utilization. |
| 12:40 | <smallclone> | it's only $2 for a 1GB Linode |
| 12:40 | <bonk> | yeah I know. I just was hoping to save a few bucks. lol |
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| 12:43 | <jcanto> | Hi |
| 12:44 | <jcanto> | I need help |
| 12:44 | <jcanto> | look at these logs |
| 12:44 | <jcanto> | Feb 16 06:21:27 mars sendmail[18110]: w1GBLQDP018110: to=user@domain.com, ctladdr=noreply@example.com (0/0), delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=relay, pri=30820, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (Ok: queued as F0E6BC805A406) |
| 12:44 | <jcanto> | Feb 16 06:21:28 mars postfix/smtp[12925]: F0E6BC805A406: to=<user@domain.org>, relay=mx1.mailservice.com[XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX]:25, delay=1.6, delays=0.08/0/0.51/1, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 Queued (0.256 seconds)) |
| 12:44 | <grawity> | okay but what do you need help with? |
| 12:45 | <jcanto> | I am trying to send the email to user@domain.com but postfix send it to user@domain.org |
| 12:45 | <jcanto> | yes, domain.com and domain.org sahre the same MX |
| 12:46 | <gparent> | It's probably Line X in xxxx.conf |
| 12:46 | <jcanto> | I know postfix is able to rewrite recipient but I have never configured something like that |
| 12:47 | <jcanto> | but accounts exist but they belong to different users |
| 12:47 | <grawity> | you sure you didn't configure sendmail like that, then? |
| 12:48 | <jcanto> | yes, sure |
| 12:48 | <grawity> | though I don't entirely understand why you have sendmail *and* postfix on the same system |
| 12:49 | <jcanto> | it is a script on crontab which sends the emails |
| 12:49 | <jcanto> | the script uses the sendmail command |
| 12:49 | <grawity> | yeah but you don't need the sendmail suite to have the sendmail command |
| 12:49 | <grawity> | postfix, and all other MTAs, provide their own sendmail command |
| 12:50 | <jcanto> | could be, I didn't write the script, but, it happens only for this domain |
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| 13:21 | <linbot> | New news from forum: General Discussion • tarot hada del dia <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15817&p=75933#p75933> |
| 13:23 | <jcanto> | ??? |
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| 13:24 | <Woet> | ??? |
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| 13:32 | <sir_buttsington> | Man, the docs Linode is churning out these days suck |
| 13:32 | <DrJ> | Thanks for your opinion |
| 13:32 | <sir_buttsington> | You're quite welcome :-) |
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| 13:34 | <bonk> | ok, so I am wanting to set up a very light weight email server for a couple of personal email addresses. Does anyone have any suggestions as to where I should look? |
| 13:34 | <sir_buttsington> | My first suggestion would be don't do that. It's a big pain. |
| 13:34 | <tafa2> | bonk https://github.com/Kickball/awesome-selfhosted#email |
| 13:35 | <Woet> | bonk: https://gsuite.google.com |
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| 13:35 | <tafa2> | it's not that much of a pain if you know what you're doing |
| 13:35 | <bonk> | yeah I have been reading that but I am glutton for punishment. |
| 13:35 | <sir_buttsington> | Most things aren't painful when you know how to do them. It's getting to that level of knowing that hurts |
| 13:35 | <tafa2> | check the IP of your VPS isn't blacklisted, setup DKIM, SPF and DMARC - you should be fine tbh |
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| 13:36 | <tafa2> | mail in a box and mailcow are great |
| 13:36 | <bonk> | I have the 1gb linode and am wondering if I can pull it off? |
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| 13:36 | <tafa2> | defo |
| 13:39 | <bonk> | woet if I wanted to pay for it I would not have a linode. ;) |
| 13:39 | <Woet> | cheaper than your linode |
| 13:39 | <grawity> | do you pay for your linode |
| 13:39 | <sir_buttsington> | You are still paying for your Linode, unless you know something we don't know ;) |
| 13:39 | <sir_buttsington> | Share that sweet sweet nectar |
| 13:39 | <grawity> | if you're going to do ipv6, ask linode for a separate /64 instead of using the default address |
| 13:40 | <tafa2> | grawity that's a good idea |
| 13:40 | <tafa2> | never thought about that... |
| 13:40 | <tafa2> | I just disable IPv6 usually |
| 13:40 | <bonk> | lol well yes but I mean pay for both. |
| 13:41 | <bonk> | I have a gmail account already. I just want something for my kids to use that I have control over. |
| 13:41 | <tafa2> | mailcow |
| 13:42 | <tafa2> | if its for the kids.. couldn't be simpler |
| 13:42 | <bonk> | and I will *maybe* learn something along the way. |
| 13:42 | <tafa2> | or just get them gmail addresses? And don't give them the passwords? :P |
| 13:42 | <bonk> | yeah I may end up doing that if I lose too much hair trying to install this. |
| 13:43 | <sir_buttsington> | #saveBonk'sHair |
| 13:44 | <tafa2> | otherwise bonk mxroute is good |
| 13:44 | <tafa2> | https://mxroute.com/ - $30/year |
| 13:46 | <bonk> | thanks |
| 13:49 | <Woet> | cpanel, no ipv6, no redundancy |
| 13:49 | <Woet> | cant be good |
| 13:50 | <tafa2> | they've got a great reputation on LET |
| 13:50 | <tafa2> | (last time I checked) |
| 13:51 | <sir_buttsington> | What is LET |
| 13:51 | <tafa2> | low end talk |
| 13:51 | <sir_buttsington> | I'm not hip with the kid's acronyms these days |
| 13:51 | <Woet> | its where poor people go to buy shitty vpses |
| 13:51 | <Woet> | like lbft |
| 13:52 | <sir_buttsington> | Yeah, low end talks approval has never impressed me |
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| 14:04 | <Demo> | Has anyone setup pihole through vpn? |
| 14:11 | <Woet> | Demo: are you doing a survey? |
| 14:12 | <Demo> | of course not |
| 14:13 | <Demo> | router doesn't play nice with openvpn |
| 14:15 | <Woet> | i mean, the answer to your question is "yes" and "no" |
| 14:15 | <Woet> | not sure how this helps your issue |
| 14:15 | <Woet> | i'd recommend asking an actual question |
| 14:18 | <Demo> | fair enough, pihole uses dnsmasq to route traffic, however this creates a open dns resolver therefore maybe resulting in amplification attacks. how would i prevent this? |
| 14:20 | <Woet> | make it listen to localhost only? |
| 14:25 | <Demo> | Woet: yeah, that's exactly what I need, thanks! Would you recommend any alternatives to openvpn? |
| 14:35 | <DrJ> | Demo: may I take a wild guess at your router? |
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| 14:35 | <DrJ> | is it a mikrotik? |
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| 14:37 | <alexE> | potential new customer for Linnode--- quick question: on the VM's, do you get two interfaces for the network? example: NIC1 for public and NIC2 for private? |
| 14:38 | <smallclone> | nope it's all one interface |
| 14:38 | <smallclone> | you use aliases like eth0:01 |
| 14:38 | <alexE> | so if you built a load balancer... public out to RFC1918 in... not possible? |
| 14:39 | <Demo> | DrJ: netgear |
| 14:39 | <alexE> | using linnode VM's |
| 14:39 | <smallclone> | i'm not going to read that whole rfc, but what is the explicit requirement? |
| 14:40 | <DrJ> | ah, I have mikrotik's and they are awesome but also have terrible openvpn support |
| 14:40 | <alexE> | on the linode VM: one NIC for public IPv4 and another NIC for 10.x addresses |
| 14:40 | <smallclone> | they are not 10.x addresses |
| 14:40 | <smallclone> | they're typically 192.168.whatever |
| 14:40 | <alexE> | ok so lnode only supports public ipv4? |
| 14:40 | <alexE> | ok, 192.168 is fine |
| 14:40 | <DrJ> | no |
| 14:41 | <smallclone> | no they support private (within the same DC) ipv4 |
| 14:41 | <alexE> | ok gotcha |
| 14:41 | <DrJ> | there is a private backend to communicate with other VMs you run in the same datacenter |
| 14:41 | <alexE> | ok that answers the question DrJ, thank you |
| 14:41 | <DrJ> | if you need communication beyond the same DC then you'll need a VPN |
| 14:41 | <alexE> | ok, same DC, thank you |
| 14:41 | <grawity> | it's not really a "private backend", is it? |
| 14:42 | <DrJ> | I don't know how private it really is |
| 14:42 | <smallclone> | it's not just your Linodes |
| 14:42 | <alexE> | well, meaning non routable publicaly |
| 14:42 | <DrJ> | I know I'd probably trust setting up a VPN more |
| 14:42 | <smallclone> | it is all Linodes within the DC |
| 14:42 | <grawity> | it's still the same datacenter LAN, though, with both public and private ranges on the same port |
| 14:42 | <smallclone> | that means you should still secure the private IP |
| 14:42 | <gparent> | DrJ: does mikrotik have udp for openvpn now? |
| 14:42 | <gparent> | that used to be missing for the longest time |
| 14:42 | <DrJ> | no |
| 14:42 | <grawity> | and IIRC literally the only purpose of private addresses within Linode was to make internal accounting easier |
| 14:42 | <gparent> | wow |
| 14:42 | <DrJ> | they say it is coming in v7 |
| 14:43 | <DrJ> | but v7 has been in the works for 5+ years it seems |
| 14:43 | <gparent> | I don't understand how hard it can be |
| 14:43 | <grawity> | gparent: they have IPsec with IKEv2, what else do you want |
| 14:43 | <gparent> | i want them to add the three bytes it requires to flip from one to the other |
| 14:43 | <DrJ> | :) |
| 14:44 | <grawity> | tbh they probably wrote their own openvpn client code |
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| 14:44 | <gparent> | yeah im actually thinking of 100 ways why it could be more difficult than I image but it's just annoying. |
| 14:44 | <gparent> | imagine* |
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| 14:45 | <gparent> | I just have my linux router do vpn whether it's ipsec or openvpn |
| 14:45 | <DrJ> | they do offer those grawity, but you have people like me using a paid VPN service for anonymitity which only supports things like openvpn and ... welll pptp if that is not an option |
| 14:45 | <grawity> | DrJ: eh? |
| 14:45 | <grawity> | ah, I see |
| 14:45 | <DrJ> | I have pia for example and I want/need it set up on my router |
| 14:46 | <DrJ> | sadly, I have to use pptp |
| 14:46 | <gparent> | ive never tried just running debian on one, I think you can do that |
| 14:47 | <DrJ> | probably, I know you can run things like ddwrt in a metarouter |
| 14:47 | <grawity> | hrmm |
| 14:48 | <grawity> | if PPTP was configured for EAP-PEAP (rather than MSCHAPv2), providing strong key exchange |
| 14:48 | <Demo> | DrJ: would I be able to bypass VPN and use dnsmasq on a certain port, the only issue would be a non static IP from my ISP, unless I could get these to communicate somehow? |
| 14:48 | <grawity> | would its RC4-based encryption still be weak? |
| 14:48 | <Demo> | yay for screen when my internet just dropped |
| 14:49 | <DrJ> | grawity: not sure... not an expert in there... I just know enough that I really shouldn't be using pptp |
| 14:49 | <DrJ> | but then again, I'm not really concerned too much about my traffic from my point to the VPN... mostly just making sure like freenode and website don't know who I am |
| 15:02 | <linbot> | New news from forum: General Discussion • Ubuntu 16.04 Adding new Partitions <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15815&p=75934#p75934> |
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| 16:33 | <Demo> | any ideas of why firewall would be blocking vpn routes; pings / traceroute work fine however webpages will not load https://pastebin.com/ZcKh2eVC |
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| 17:22 | <kronos003> | If I create a linode and subsequently want to turn it over to a customer on their own account, is that possible? |
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| 17:23 | <kronos003> | ( like if I create a webserver for a customr and they decide later that they want someone else to manage it for whatever reason) |
| 17:24 | <relidy> | Yep. You just have to open tickets on both accounts. |
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| 18:20 | <kronos003> | cool - I might start offering services to my customer based on linodes, and keep everything compartmentalized to a single linode for each customer. this way if they ever want to use someone else, they arent locked into my service |
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| 18:32 | <Demo> | kronos003: that's a pretty neat idea |
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| 19:15 | <kezimo> | will someone please link me to a standalone full installer for either firefox or chrome? |
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| 19:24 | <nate> | Both mozilla and chrome's sites should have them, can you not access them? |
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| 20:37 | <Demo> | kezimo: https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/95346?co=GENIE.Platform%3DDesktop&hl=en-GB |
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| 22:20 | <Eugene> | Every night I'm a towel |
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| 22:22 | <@bhanks> | yes, yes you are Eugene |
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| 22:34 | <Woet> | bhanks: are you doing a 24 hour shift |
| 22:34 | <@bhanks> | it does seem like I'm always here doesn't it? |
| 22:34 | <Woet> | it does |
| 22:34 | <@bhanks> | I work nights right now. but I tend to linger. |
| 22:35 | <Woet> | same |
| 22:35 | <Woet> | at least you're getting paid for it |
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| 22:39 | <@bhanks> | oh yeah. but getting to chat with you guys is payment enough! |
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| 22:42 | <gparent> | 24 hour shifts, loves to waste time and chat, you got a great twitch streamer career ahead of you |
| 22:43 | <gparent> | linode counts as art, right? |
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| 22:55 | <@bhanks> | can I live stream myself playing Sims 4: Pets ? |
| 22:55 | <@bhanks> | is there a market for that? |
| 22:56 | <gparent> | im sure there is |
| 22:56 | <gparent> | oh wow |
| 22:56 | <gparent> | 852 sims 4 viewers, dozens of streamers |
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| 23:14 | <Wenz> | hi |
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| 23:15 | <millisa> | hi |
| 23:15 | <Wenz> | i have question |
| 23:15 | <millisa> | !ask |
| 23:15 | <linbot> | If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read http://alexfornuto.com/how-to-ask-for-help-on-irc/ |
| 23:16 | <Wenz> | i have a virtual machine (ubuntu) run in Virtualbox on my private lan. |
| 23:16 | <Wenz> | how can i migrate it to linode? |
| 23:17 | <Wenz> | i have this plan of making it on public |
| 23:18 | <@scrane> | https://linode.com/docs/tools-reference/custom-kernels-distros/install-a-custom-distribution-on-a-linode/ |
| 23:21 | <Wenz> | so you mean i need to reinstall everything to your host site? |
| 23:22 | <@scrane> | No, you shouldn't. Sorry, what you should be able to do is save that image as a .img file, upload it to a Linode, and boot fro mthat. |
| 23:22 | <smallclone> | no, you need to convert your vdi or whatever to an iso or img |
| 23:22 | <Wenz> | how about .ova file? |
| 23:23 | <Wenz> | using virtualbox i can export the server into .ova file |
| 23:23 | <Zimsky> | nop |
| 23:23 | <@scrane> | To my knowledge, a .ova file will not work with our system. |
| 23:23 | <smallclone> | nah |
| 23:23 | <armiller> | Nope |
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| 23:25 | <Wenz> | sad.. |
| 23:25 | <Wenz> | .ova i think is the fastest way to deploy the system |
| 23:25 | <smallclone> | that's a vmware thing |
| 23:26 | <Wenz> | i am using virtualbox |
| 23:26 | <Wenz> | not vmware |
| 23:27 | <smallclone> | right but iirc .ova is a vmware file type |
| 23:27 | <smallclone> | anyway |
| 23:27 | <smallclone> | you should be able to use vboxmanage to convert a vdi to .iso |
| 23:27 | <Wenz> | ok |
| 23:28 | <smallclone> | or to an .img maybe, tbh i haven't really played around with it |
| 23:28 | <Wenz> | after i converted it to .iso or .img |
| 23:28 | <Wenz> | after i converted it to .iso or .img? |
| 23:29 | <smallclone> | after that you can follow the guide scrane provided |
| 23:29 | <Wenz> | provided on the link? |
| 23:30 | <smallclone> | yup |
| 23:31 | <smallclone> | that guide isn't perfectly suited to what you're doing..but basically you just need to dd to a raw disk in rescue mode, then use direct disk boot |
| 23:33 | <Wenz> | ok |
| 23:33 | <Wenz> | need to read the process |
| 23:35 | <Wenz> | BTW, can you guys can do it for me after i converted my sever to ISO? |
| 23:35 | <smallclone> | nah Linode is DIY |
| 23:36 | <Wenz> | ah ok. |
| 23:37 | <smallclone> | you can ask questions though |
| 23:37 | <smallclone> | here |
| 23:38 | <Wenz> | ok |
| 23:39 | <smallclone> | i mean if you really want to skip the work, vultr does offer boot from .iso as an option, it's just that vultr sucks in basically every other way |
| 23:39 | <Wenz> | i am still searching the way how to convert vmdk to iso |
| 23:40 | <smallclone> | that will probably be the most annoying part |
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| 23:42 | <smallclone> | you could try this, it's from the old custom distro guide for xen when the process was even worse https://linode.com/docs/tools-reference/custom-kernels-distros/install-a-custom-distribution-on-a-xen-linode/#copying-the-disk-from-virtualbox-to-your-linode |
| 23:42 | <smallclone> | keep in mind kvm linodes would use /dev/sda as opposed to /dev/xvda |
| 23:42 | <Wenz> | ok |
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| 23:43 | <smallclone> | there's some stuff in that guide (other than that) that is definitely going to be relevant to you, like updating /etc/fstab |
| 23:45 | <Wenz> | ok |
| 23:47 | <Wenz> | need to create an account so i could do this "Copying the Disk from VirtualBox to your Linode" |
| 23:47 | <smallclone> | well yeah you need to have an account and a Linode |
| 23:47 | <Wenz> | do you have a free subscription? |
| 23:47 | <smallclone> | no |
| 23:48 | <smallclone> | there's a promotional code for a $10 credit, LINODE10 |
| 23:48 | <smallclone> | but you will still need to add payment info |
| 23:48 | <Wenz> | so its free trial? |
| 23:48 | <smallclone> | if you don't like it in the first week you can request a refund |
| 23:49 | <smallclone> | but you won't use up the $10 trial in a week on the smaller plans |
| 23:50 | <Wenz> | how can i get that promotional code? |
| 23:50 | <smallclone> | pretty sure you can just enter it during signup |
| 23:51 | <Wenz> | ok i will try to sigh up first |
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