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| 02:33 | <bhuipt> | hello? |
| 02:33 | <Zimsky> | ahoy |
| 02:33 | <bhuipt> | my account can not login today, anyone could help me ? |
| 02:34 | <Zimsky> | you'd need to be more specific |
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| 02:34 | <Zimsky> | what message do you get |
| 02:36 | <bhuipt> | for the holiday, i do not found the message |
| 02:36 | <Zimsky> | what |
| 02:36 | <@scrane> | bhuipt, are you able to issue a password reset for the account? |
| 02:37 | <bhuipt> | i remember the password on my browser |
| 02:37 | <bhuipt> | i try to found which email i regester |
| 02:38 | <@scrane> | In that case, I would recommend sending an email to support@linode.com letting us know you are having troubles. To make things easy, include the last 6 digits of the credit card you have on file for the account in the email and we will be able to investigate and help you out. |
| 02:39 | <bhuipt> | ok,thanks |
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| 03:19 | <linbot> | New news from forum: Web Servers and Web App Development • Can't Access my Site through Browser <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15821&p=75940#p75940> |
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| 05:14 | <Dan_> | Hello |
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| 07:25 | <Cromulent> | I've never really run an SMTP server before so I'm a bit confused - all I want to is take email sent to one address and then forward it on to another providers SMTP server for delivery - no need for anything else (although filtering of spam might be something I am interested in later) - I've heard sendmail is a pain to configure so was looking at postfix instead |
| 07:25 | <Cromulent> | so take email to a@me.com and forward it to b@someoneelse.com |
| 07:26 | <Zimsky> | opensmtpd |
| 07:26 | <Cromulent> | that's an OpenBSD thing isn't it? |
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| 07:26 | <Zimsky> | yes |
| 07:26 | <Cromulent> | ah cool - I'll look into it - thanks |
| 07:27 | <Zimsky> | it doesn't have a ridiculously overcomplicated configuration format |
| 07:27 | <Zimsky> | postfix and exim are moronic |
| 07:27 | <Cromulent> | sounds like what I am after |
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| 07:27 | <Cromulent> | if I remember correctly OpenBSD projects have really good man pages as well |
| 07:27 | <Zimsky> | there's a linux port of it |
| 07:27 | <Cromulent> | nice |
| 07:28 | <Zimsky> | most bsd things are usually quite well documented |
| 07:28 | <Zimsky> | sometimes better than linux, yes |
| 07:28 | <Cromulent> | it has been years since I used a BSD based UNIX |
| 07:29 | <Zimsky> | why'd you stop using it? |
| 07:29 | <Cromulent> | mainly because I found it hard at the time to find VPS providers that supported it and that I trusted |
| 07:33 | <Zimsky> | I don't know any really good providers that support it, even now |
| 07:34 | <Cromulent> | it is a shame |
| 07:38 | <Zimsky> | https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/02/internet-rages-after-google-removes-view-image-button-bowing-to-getty/ |
| 07:38 | <Zimsky> | I KNEW I WASN'T GOING MAD |
| 07:38 | <Cromulent> | yeah I saw that yesterday |
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| 08:55 | <Daniel_> | Greetings. |
| 08:55 | <@scrane> | Hello! |
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| 08:57 | <Sam_> | Hi! Does anyone know what cpu's are used in the standard plans? |
| 09:00 | <@scrane> | It will generally depend on the host you land on. A test Linode I have currently displays the following: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2680 v3 @ 2.50GHz |
| 09:00 | <@scrane> | All CPUs will be equivalent accross hosts. |
| 09:01 | <Sam_> | Ah thanks. |
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| 11:21 | <FluffyFoxeh> | oh so google images isn't useful anymore |
| 11:21 | <FluffyFoxeh> | that's nice |
| 11:22 | <FluffyFoxeh> | Google's Search Liaison, Danny Sullivan, announced the change on Twitter yesterday, saying it would "help connect users and useful websites." |
| 11:22 | <FluffyFoxeh> | why do they ALWAYS LIE |
| 11:22 | <FluffyFoxeh> | holy shit |
| 11:22 | <dwfreed> | right click the image, click 'show image' or 'open image in new tab' |
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| 12:32 | * | Zimsky spins FluffyFoxeh |
| 12:32 | <Zimsky> | it's standard marketing peddling |
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| 13:19 | <Demo> | FluffyFoxeh: DuckDuckGo+1 |
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| 13:57 | <Liutauras> | hello |
| 13:57 | <ericoc> | hi |
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| 13:59 | <Liutauras> | after linode rebuild my linode manager says that its full disk, even tho i have checked in lish that there are loads of free space |
| 13:59 | <Liutauras> | could anyone help me with that? |
| 13:59 | <Liutauras> | I wanna run backup on it but i can't because it shows no space |
| 14:01 | <Liutauras> | I don't want to create new linode because im scared that i will need to pay for backup again |
| 14:01 | <Liutauras> | unless it costs per hour |
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| 14:18 | <Liutauras> | Hello, I have a question |
| 14:19 | <Liutauras> | When I rebuild my linode it shows no free space no matter that there is space, and i can't use a backup on it |
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| 14:24 | <retro|blah> | Liutauras: The disk space measured in Lish (df -h?) measures space utilization on disks in use. The available disk space in Linode manager measures space available to create new disks. If you want to restore from a backup, I suspect you'll need to shrink your existing disk(s) in Linode Manager first. |
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| 14:25 | <retro|blah> | This is explained at https://linode.com/docs/platform/linode-backup-service/#restore-to-an-existing-linode |
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| 14:28 | <Liutauras> | i see |
| 14:29 | <Liutauras> | do i need to resize it again after restore |
| 14:29 | <Liutauras> | or it does it itself? |
| 14:29 | <Liutauras> | to use all the disk space available |
| 14:34 | <retro|blah> | Judging from the example shown in "Boot from a Backup", you would need to resize the restored disks up afterwards. |
| 14:37 | <Liutauras> | okay thank you |
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| 14:50 | <hensler> | hi |
| 14:50 | <millisa> | hi |
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| 14:50 | <hensler> | does linode also offer a server in European Union or where are the servers location? |
| 14:51 | <millisa> | Frankfurt? https://www.linode.com/speedtest |
| 14:51 | <millisa> | London? |
| 14:51 | <millisa> | I forget who is in the EU |
| 14:51 | <hensler> | frankfurt |
| 14:52 | <Demo> | all in favour of brexit, rise. |
| 14:53 | <hensler> | frankfurt is closer to our location but true also brexit is a theme and dont forget the new data privacy rules that start in mai |
| 14:55 | <Demo> | yeah exactly, GDPR will affect hosting providers which have information / servers located within the EU |
| 14:55 | <hensler> | we have to come back from USA to EU with some servers because of theese regulatons. EU first - would trump say ;) |
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| 14:56 | <Demo> | wait let me grab my covfefe |
| 14:56 | <hensler> | so we can choose frankfurt after the registration. |
| 14:56 | <millisa> | you can pick the datacenter for every linode you spin up |
| 14:56 | <hensler> | :) @covfefe |
| 14:56 | <millisa> | there's a drop down at the bottom of the page when you are picking which linode size |
| 14:57 | <millisa> | (there's a pic in the getting started guide https://linode.com/docs/getting-started/#sign-up ) |
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| 14:57 | <hensler> | ok thanks, how is the support and serveruptimes compared to the guys from digital ocean? |
| 14:59 | <DrJ> | hensler: do is second best... end of story |
| 14:59 | <DrJ> | uptimes are mostly user determined |
| 14:59 | <millisa> | i dont have but a few system at DO, but they've had about the same uptimes as my linodes (where I have lots). support at linode is pretty good. and they bum around in here. |
| 15:00 | <hensler> | ok sounds good. |
| 15:00 | <DrJ> | of course you have things like spectre which affect all and affect uptimes |
| 15:00 | <Demo> | hensler: support is top notch, expect 15-30 minutes, uptime i've had no problems in London for 2 years |
| 15:00 | <hensler> | where are they based, New york? |
| 15:00 | <Peng_> | Where's who based? |
| 15:00 | <hensler> | linode headquater |
| 15:01 | <Peng_> | New Jersey |
| 15:01 | <hensler> | or grounded :) |
| 15:01 | <Demo> | hensler: excluding minor reboots, 1/2 minutes, although you should really have a backup cluster in place if detrimental |
| 15:02 | <hensler> | new jersey, sounds like a nice little town. never been there. |
| 15:03 | <hensler> | but ya know we from europe do not know much citys from usa - eastcoast westcoast eminem & dr. Dree... thats it! |
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| 15:04 | <gparent> | They can't even spell Dre :( |
| 15:04 | <gparent> | poor europe |
| 15:05 | <gparent> | I didnt really know Dre as an artist before so when the beats came out (eww), I assume Dr. Dre was just a fake doctor like in shady pill ads. |
| 15:05 | <hensler> | no hip hop culture and gang shootings here... |
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| 15:05 | <hensler> | not eaven guns we have |
| 15:06 | <hensler> | (but dont miss it admit) |
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| 15:07 | <hensler> | but we watch great movies and episodes from the eastcoast.. |
| 15:08 | <Demo> | i love the American culture |
| 15:08 | <hensler> | therse a place called hollywood, brings up the best movies on earth |
| 15:09 | <hensler> | i loved new york and the friendly people... |
| 15:09 | <millisa> | those are two things that aren't usually put together. |
| 15:09 | <gparent> | yeah I thought the best part of NY was homeless people being roughed up by city police on your way to the HOPE conference |
| 15:09 | <hensler> | everyone says hi how re you doing? you think you have a new friend and in the next moment - they are gone - anyway very friendly! |
| 15:09 | <gparent> | at least that was my personalized experience (TM) |
| 15:11 | <hensler> | its a shame that so many people are homeless. everyone should have a minimum wage to life from and a home. |
| 15:13 | <hensler> | here in europe everyone gets help from the state if you have problems with your job or house. no so much people have to life on the street. |
| 15:14 | <Demo> | mm, I have a interview on Tuesday and the company has dead links in the information email |
| 15:14 | <hensler> | but still its always a fight between capitalists and socialists but its more balanced. |
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| 15:14 | <nate> | A weird problem in the US is there are a lot of homeless people that choose to be, or abuse the help they are given |
| 15:15 | <hensler> | @demo sounds like they need you! |
| 15:15 | <gparent> | are you applying for the hyperlink fixer position? |
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| 15:16 | <hensler> | you can fix this! |
| 15:17 | <Demo> | train driver actually, trainee. |
| 15:17 | <Demo> | gparent: i should put that on the cv |
| 15:17 | <hensler> | @nate maybe its a mix of culture, maybe its a society where they feel guilty when they recieve help from the state |
| 15:19 | <hensler> | they should not have, because also lot of major tech companys and internet technologie is foundet by the state. the internet itself was invented by the goverment and military - before google or amazon could use it. |
| 15:20 | <hensler> | forget Universitys. |
| 15:22 | <gparent> | for what it's worth, I don't think this is the best channel for blogging about how great europe is |
| 15:22 | <hensler> | sorry, this was not my intention. |
| 15:23 | <millisa> | clearly you are low on linodes. go spin up a dozen. |
| 15:23 | <gparent> | lmao |
| 15:25 | <Demo> | stackscripts have increased my irc time by 75% |
| 15:25 | <hensler> | and you are right - its not the forum. anyway was nice to talk a bit offtopic-tech and hope you guys rock america great again with financial & social power (needs to be both)! we beliefe in you big bros there. good night. |
| 15:25 | <gparent> | i still love you (and europe) |
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| 15:25 | <gparent> | almost missed my inconditional love |
| 15:27 | <millisa> | Make Linode Exceptional Monday. mlem mlem mlem. http://livedoor.4.blogimg.jp/nuko2mofu2/imgs/6/4/642a2401.gif |
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| 15:31 | <Demo> | <3 |
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| 15:36 | <chetan> | Hello |
| 15:36 | <chetan> | Linode |
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| 15:36 | <millisa> | Hi |
| 15:37 | <chetan> | What are hosting plans? |
| 15:37 | <Peng_> | https://www.linode.com/pricing |
| 15:37 | <chetan> | everything unlimited |
| 15:37 | <millisa> | The resource limits are on the pricing page. |
| 15:38 | <Zimsky> | hensler seemed cool |
| 15:38 | <Zimsky> | gparent: europe is great. |
| 15:38 | <Zimsky> | build a bridge |
| 15:40 | <Demo> | build a wall |
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| 15:43 | <chetan> | What is hensler? |
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| 15:44 | <chetan> | help/ |
| 15:44 | <millisa> | !ask |
| 15:44 | <linbot> | If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read http://alexfornuto.com/how-to-ask-for-help-on-irc/ |
| 15:48 | <kezimo> | anyone here interested in psychology? |
| 15:51 | <Zimsky> | I'm certainly interested in your psychology |
| 15:52 | <Zimsky> | DSM-V is based on woet's life |
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| 16:26 | <gparent> | Zimsky: it's awesome |
| 16:26 | <gparent> | thanks for those usb chargers we owe you one |
| 16:32 | <Zimsky> | pls take home your icky nukes |
| 16:33 | <Zimsky> | should do what they did in that film and just launch all the ICBMs into space |
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| 16:43 | <Demo> | How long does it take for Linode to pick up a new domain? Added A record from registrar pointing to IP 1 hr ago |
| 16:43 | <millisa> | doesn't sound like it has much to do with linode. that sounds dependent on your registrars name servers/ttl |
| 16:44 | <Demo> | thats a fair comment :) |
| 16:44 | <Demo> | DNS is varied across the world, kinda amazing how it works |
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| 17:23 | <Zimsky> | s/works/has a tendency to cause migraines/ |
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| 20:08 | <syntaxman> | Are there any unique reqs for running docker on a linode? Google seems to say no, but the wiki article was somewhat dated. |
| 20:10 | <@sjacobs> | it should just work. i typicall still recommend using the distribution kernel. |
| 20:10 | <syntaxman> | sjacobs: what do you mean by distribution kernel |
| 20:10 | <syntaxman> | ? |
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| 20:12 | <syntaxman> | I'm just running the beginner's tutorial. I'm not very far along. docker fails to start the container. |
| 20:13 | <syntaxman> | So I'm hunting for causes... it doesn't even give me output on stderr. |
| 20:13 | <@sjacobs> | https://linode.com/docs/tools-reference/custom-kernels-distros/run-a-distribution-supplied-kernel/ |
| 20:14 | <eatonphil[m]> | syntaxman: what distro are you running? |
| 20:17 | <syntaxman> | eatonphil[m]: debian stretch |
| 20:18 | <eatonphil[m]> | and what guide are you following? |
| 20:18 | <syntaxman> | I was going through the tutorial on the docker website. |
| 20:19 | <eatonphil[m]> | what docker command did you run that fails to start the container? |
| 20:20 | <syntaxman> | eatonphil[m]: docker run -p 4000:80 friendlyhello |
| 20:20 | <eatonphil[m]> | and there's no output as a result of running that? |
| 20:22 | <syntaxman> | None.. I ran docker event in a different term and it looked good until I got "container die" with exit code = 0 |
| 20:22 | <syntaxman> | not so helpful |
| 20:23 | <eatonphil[m]> | anything related to docker if you run dmesg? |
| 20:24 | <eatonphil[m]> | and is the docker service running? `service docker status` |
| 20:26 | <syntaxman> | eatonphil[m]: In dmesg I'm seeing a lot of messages along the line of: |
| 20:26 | <syntaxman> | docker0: port 1(veth0b506b5) entered blocking state |
| 20:26 | <syntaxman> | sometimes its a running state or a disabled state |
| 20:27 | <eatonphil[m]> | doesn't sound like the real issue |
| 20:28 | <syntaxman> | eatonphil[m]: service says it's enabled and running |
| 20:29 | <eatonphil[m]> | is friendlyhello a docker image you created? |
| 20:30 | <syntaxman> | eatonphil[m]: Yes. It's a really simple image that you build step by step with the tutorial. |
| 20:30 | <eatonphil[m]> | you followed this tutorial? https://docs.docker.com/install/linux/docker-ce/debian/ |
| 20:31 | <syntaxman> | eatonphil[m]: it has a single python script, and requires Flask and Redis |
| 20:31 | <eatonphil[m]> | were you able to run any other images? Is it just this one that's not working? |
| 20:31 | <syntaxman> | eatonphil[m]: I started just with the tutorial. I had already used apt-get to install docker. |
| 20:32 | <syntaxman> | It ran the default "hello world" image, but I haven't tried any others. |
| 20:32 | <eatonphil[m]> | oh nice |
| 20:33 | <@sjacobs> | `docker run -i -t -p 4000:80 friendlyhello` should run it in the foreground. |
| 20:33 | <@sjacobs> | might be able to spot an issue, there. |
| 20:33 | <eatonphil[m]> | what is the output of `docker ls`? |
| 20:33 | <eatonphil[m]> | err `docker ps` |
| 20:33 | <Zimsky> | *unfriendlyhello* |
| 20:34 | <syntaxman> | sjacobs: still no output |
| 20:34 | <syntaxman> | eatonphil[m]: no containers listed |
| 20:35 | <syntaxman> | sjacobs: is it likely that the distribution kernel would make the difference in this case? |
| 20:35 | <eatonphil[m]> | have you checked there are no typos in your dockerfile or python script? |
| 20:36 | <@sjacobs> | doesn't sound like we have enough info yet to say. |
| 20:36 | <@sjacobs> | it's odd there is no output from any of those `docker run`s |
| 20:36 | <syntaxman> | eatonphil[m]: I have... but I'm inclined to check it again. |
| 20:36 | <@sjacobs> | if it's a kernel issue, it will complain about trying to load modules. |
| 20:37 | <eatonphil[m]> | did you run that docker command as root? |
| 20:37 | <eatonphil[m]> | oh nevermind I got the port order wrong |
| 20:38 | <eatonphil[m]> | Hmm an alternative may be to create a new image without the CMD specified |
| 20:38 | <eatonphil[m]> | Then you can run `docker run -it friendlyhello /bin/sh` and within there try running the `python app.py` manually |
| 20:38 | <eatonphil[m]> | there may be errors you see within the container that way |
| 20:39 | <eatonphil[m]> | so just comment out the CMD line in the dockerfile and build the image again |
| 20:42 | <syntaxman> | I may have found something.. (I dislike systemd) There is a command that gives me log output |
| 20:42 | <syntaxman> | journalctl -u docker.service |
| 20:43 | <eatonphil[m]> | (the .service part is optional) |
| 20:52 | <syntaxman> | https://pastebin.com/Mf35qmuu |
| 20:53 | <syntaxman> | There are some lines that indicate problems with cgroups and other kernel stuff. |
| 20:54 | <eatonphil[m]> | what is your docker version? |
| 20:55 | <syntaxman> | One such line: Your kernel does not support cgroup rt runtime |
| 20:55 | <syntaxman> | Version: 17.12.0-ce |
| 20:56 | <eatonphil[m]> | I'd follow this https://docs.docker.com/install/linux/docker-ce/debian/ |
| 20:56 | <eatonphil[m]> | you may have installed too new a docker version |
| 20:57 | <eatonphil[m]> | that seems to be a common issue because that guide starts with first uninstalling all docker components |
| 20:57 | <eatonphil[m]> | and it mentions docker 17.11 is for debian 10, youre' on docker 17.12 and debian 9 |
| 20:58 | <eatonphil[m]> | but again, if you don't want to go through that right away, I'd first try building the image without the CMD section and try running the command manually within the container |
| 20:59 | <eatonphil[m]> | even if the docker logs are complaining about missing all these kernel features, it still worked decently so far with the other images you tried |
| 21:00 | <syntaxman> | Hmm... it is annoying that the debian repos would have a docker version they don't support. |
| 21:00 | <syntaxman> | Not really like them. |
| 21:00 | <syntaxman> | I am goign to poke around some more and see if i can figure this out. |
| 21:00 | <syntaxman> | Thank you for your help! |
| 21:02 | <syntaxman> | Oh.. |
| 21:02 | <eatonphil[m]> | as projects get big enough they mostly prefer to manage packaing themselves |
| 21:02 | <syntaxman> | Since I'm new to docker i should ask.. I think your suggestion just means commenting out the CMD= line in the dockerfile, then re-building, right? |
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| 21:03 | <syntaxman> | Then add /bin/bash to the command line |
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| 21:11 | <eatonphil[m]> | yep |
| 21:11 | <eatonphil[m]> | /bin/bash to the command line? not sure about that |
| 21:13 | <eatonphil[m]> | The friendly hello docker image is based on python:2.7-slim which is based on debian so I guess you might have /bin/bash instead of /bin/sh. Either way you'd run `docker run -it friendlyhello /bin/<whatever>` once you've rebuilt the image with CMD line commented out and that will connect you inside the container where you can then run `python app.py` |
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