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---Logopened Fri Feb 23 00:00:19 2018
00:02<Zimsky>WHO wants 350 francs for the cumulative INN list
00:04<Zimsky>and stuff like RTECS is now only available for a fee
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00:05<Zimsky>if anything is in need of a crusade like Woet speaks of, it's securing open access to data like this
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00:07<@bhanks>>WHO wants 350 francs for the cumulative INN list
00:07<@bhanks>hahaha what.
00:07<@bhanks>that's ridiculous
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00:11<Zimsky>yeah bhanks
00:11<Zimsky>you better believe it
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00:12<Ap_>hey, anyone online?
00:12<Zimsky>there's always someone on the line
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00:13<Ap_>It looks like I fucked up my linode firewall connections
00:13<Zimsky>good job
00:13<Zimsky>use lish
00:13<Ap_>I was following
00:14<millisa>logon with lish and fix them
00:14<Ap_>and after sudo systemctl restart vsftpd
00:14<Ap_>How do I logon with lish?
00:14<Zimsky>lol vsftpd
00:14<linbot>LISH allows you to perform certain actions without having to log in to the Linode Manager. LISH's primary function is to allow you to access your Linode's console, even if networking is disabled.
00:14<Zimsky>vsftpd strikes again
00:15<Ap_>How do I reset my vsftpd config from lish?
00:17<Ap_>Are the config profiles indexes
00:17<millisa>mostly you'd just use lish to get in and fix whatever you did on your firewall that's keeping you from ssh'ing in to the linode. vsftpd shouldnt have much to do with that.
00:17<Ap_>So I can reboot 0 or something to get the first config used
00:17<Ap_>ah ok
00:18<Ap_>So uh
00:18<Ap_>Is there any way to restore the firewall settings to the first used
00:19<millisa>on ubuntu, sudo ufw reset should clear out all your rules
00:19<Ap_>And that'll work in LISH?
00:19<millisa>lish is like connecting to a console.
00:19<Ap_>oh, well then
00:19<Ap_>thanks for all the help!
00:19<millisa>you could then allow ssh with sudo ufw allow 22/tcp
00:24<Ap_>Jesus Christ
00:25<Ap_>Disaster Averted
00:26<Ap_>Thanks guys, you're the best
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00:45<tabca>anyone home
00:45<linbot>If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read
00:45<tabca>understandable, have a nice day
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00:46<millisa>maybe the vsftpd got 'em again
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00:53<@bhanks>who could say millisa.. who could say..
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01:18<james>anyone here?
01:18<linbot>If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read
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01:19<Guest4738>You have an outstanding balance!
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01:19<@bhanks>have you received an email saying that? Guest4738
01:19<@bhanks>we'll need some more details
01:19<Guest4738>let me see
01:19<@bhanks>Im asking where you are getting that message from
01:20<Guest4738>log in linode
01:21<@bhanks>well, that means that you have an outstanding balance that you need to pay or your services may be suspended or deleted
01:23<Guest4738>what is the cvv
01:23<millisa>That 3 or so digit code on the back of a credit card
01:24<Guest4738>Your payment of $5.00 was successfully charged to your credit card. Thank you!
01:24<Guest4738> is it ok?
01:24<@bhanks>well that seems good
01:24<@bhanks>but we cant see your account so im not sure if you owe more than $5
01:25<@bhanks>when you go here:
01:25<@bhanks>what do you see next to "Account Balance" ?
01:27<@scrane>I should also add, you may need to check your Linode to make sure it is booted after you have paid off your account balance, as it is possible the Linode was powered off due to suspension.
01:27<Guest4738>Account Balance $0.00 Your account is current. Uninvoiced Balance $3.98 and counting This will appear on your next invoice.
01:28<Guest4738>i booted it
01:28<@bhanks>so yeah. you've paid for this month.
01:28<@scrane>Excellent, so you should be good to go then
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01:28<@bhanks>!point scrane
01:28<linbot>bhanks: Point given to scrane. (7)
01:28<@bhanks>just because
01:28<FluffyFoxeh>!lick bhanks
01:28<linbot>FluffyFoxeh: Point given to bhanks. (9)
01:29<@bhanks>ugh why do you kids always lick me omg
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01:29<@scrane>!point bhanks
01:29<linbot>scrane: Point given to bhanks. (10)
01:29<FluffyFoxeh>cause we know it bugs you :p
01:29<@scrane>!towel bhanks
01:29<linbot>scrane: Point taken from bhanks! (9)
01:29<@bhanks>pls dont summon Eugene
01:30<@scrane>But... he's linodin' every daay
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01:32<@bhanks>no he's a towel every day
01:32<@scrane>Hi srinivas!
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01:32<srinivas>Linode has cPanel?
01:32<linbot>Install cPanel on CentOS: Linode does not sell cPanel licenses, but it's provided free to Linode Managed customers: Or try a free panel like Webmin: Or just use the command line:
01:34<Zimsky>ask yourself, "do I really need cpanel?"
01:35<srinivas>I dont know to use other panel or SSHL
01:35<Zimsky>learn yourself a shell
01:35<srinivas>whats shell
01:36<@bhanks>oh. okay.
01:36<@bhanks>srinivas I will mention that Linode is an unmanaged infrastructure provider so we do not have access to the internal configuration of your server.
01:36<@bhanks>so if you create an account you will NEED to hire an Admin to manage it. if something goes wrong with your set up we will not be able to log in and fix it for you.
01:36<srinivas>I have a website already running in wordpress. I want to migrate it
01:37<@bhanks>you can do that. but again, we wont be able to help with that set up. so if something breaks you should have someone on your team who can fix it.
01:38<millisa>check out the getting started guide to see if it's right for you - There's other docs, even some about installing wordpress
01:38<srinivas>then I feel its better to use linode through cloudways!
01:40<@bhanks>that might work for you!
01:40<srinivas>is there any diference in using through cloudways?
01:41<Eugene>What should I add to next
01:41<srinivas>I found pricing is high there (for their support) ... Except this is there any performance issue?
01:42<millisa>srinivas: those sound more like sales questions for cloudways
01:43<srinivas>Ha :) ...
01:43<srinivas>Any how I will contact them
01:44<@bhanks>srinivas this is a chat about Linode and our services, so you'd want to google some info on Cloudways. we dont have that info.
01:44<@scrane>You can likely find out more information here:
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02:04<zifnab>!lick Zimsky
02:04<linbot>zifnab: Point given to zimsky. (8)
02:04<Zimsky><bhanks> ugh why do you kids always lick me omg
02:04<Zimsky>I'm concerned
02:05<@bhanks>how so Zimsky
02:06<Zimsky>you said something that intrigued me and is causing worry for the safety of others
02:10<Woet>bhanks: making kids lick you is not acceptable in this society
02:10<Woet>hey, dont shoot the messenger
02:10<@bhanks>Woet i would think that you would jump to my defense here but alas I was remiss in my expectations
02:11<Woet>> remiss
02:12<@bhanks>i dont know when or where i started saying 'kids' its a linode thing now. i call all of them 'kids'. its ironic because i think i'm the youngest, or second youngest?
02:13<Woet>its because you have superiority complex
02:13<@bhanks>oh yeah that must be it
02:13<@bhanks>scrane they're on to me
02:13<@scrane>They knoooow!
02:14<@bhanks>heavy is the head that wears the T&S crown
02:15<Woet>cant be that heavy with all that air
02:18<Zimsky>depends what the air comprises
02:19<Zimsky>compressed osmium gas is kinda heavy
02:19<Zimsky>only thing I breathe
02:22<Woet>that explains the brain damage
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03:04<Zimsky>Woet: only due to the temperature and hypoxia
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03:28<epsan>Hi guys
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03:29<epsan>when i'm trying to login to the linode portal to renew one of my websites certificate i'm getting error — No CSRF/authenticity token submitted. —
03:29<epsan>what should i do?
03:30<nate>"linode portal"? Since when do any sort on-server certificates get managed from anything of linode's management stuff?
03:32<epsan>I'm kind of new to this..plz guide me on what should i do....or where should i head to resolve this issue
03:32<epsan>credentials are correct
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04:08<epsan>Thanks guys issue seems to be fixed with the different URL and credentials...!
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05:15<@bmartin>hello how can we help you
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05:15<@bmartin>too slow
05:16<rsdehart>bmartin: shame on you for not answering either of those last two people's questions
05:16<rsdehart>that they definitely asked
05:19<Zimsky>rsdehart: technically, you're the one who is supposed to be answering questions
05:19<Zimsky>stones in glass houses lad
05:19<rsdehart>I answered every one.
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06:39<Woet>hi bmartin
06:39<@bmartin>hey woet
06:39<tafa2>How do you guys manage admin passwords and credentials at work? I'm trying to advise a business where there isn't any permanent IT staff and well only 1 person has all the passwords at the moment. If he gets hit by a bus, they're basically stuffed. Printed word document just seems dated though....?
06:39<Woet>dont tell bhanks but i have a crush on you
06:40<Woet>tafa2: a password manager.
06:40<tafa2>Yeah, but even that Woet needs a master password...
06:40<tafa2>who's gonna remember the password :)
06:40<Woet>everyone should have their own personal password manager
06:41<Woet>and exchange passwords open hiring
06:41<Woet>or you can do something next level like Radius
06:41<Woet>or at least pubkeys
06:41<tafa2>Yeah - true
06:41<@bmartin>I write all my passwords in a notebook
06:41<@bmartin>it's glued to my desk
06:41<Woet>i wish you were glued to your desk baby
06:41<tafa2>It's more of a - there's 12 people in the office - the IT guy has dissapeared and we need to handover to someone new - here's all the documentation and here is the framework for the passwords...
06:42<tafa2>Just trying to figure out the last part
06:42<@bmartin>glue hurts the skin
06:42<tafa2>just sniff it
06:42<tafa2>won't hurt as much
06:48<ponas>put the master password on a piece of paper, hide it somewhere, preferably in a small safe
06:49<@bmartin>I have my passwords tattooed to me
06:49<Woet>i know
06:49<Woet>i like the one on your ass
06:49<@scrane>tafa2, a password manager like LastPass, for example, typically allows you to share master passwords in a folder. So I can create a password, put it in a specific, shared folder, then someone else with permissions to that folder can use those passwords.
06:49<@scrane>As far as passwords to the important stuff, it is likely a good idea to make sure that stuff allows more than one person access to it.
06:50<@bmartin>Here comes @scrane being a profession <3
06:50<Woet>i'd love to pursue a career in the scrane profession
06:50<@scrane>Many have tried the scrane way. Few have succeeded
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07:12<linbot>New news from forum: Sales Questions and Answers • Can you use a prepaid / debit card to pay for service ? <>
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07:18<Zimsky>Woet: would you like an opal fruit?
07:44<@bmartin>I would like an apple
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08:23<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • august horoscope for scorpio <>
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09:32<Benjamin>hi i am looking for hosting with 8 cores cpu and 16gb ram
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09:33<@sjacobs>hello Benjamin: we have plans with 6 cores and 12gb of ram or 8 cores and 24gb of ram.
09:34<dwfreed>^ what you see is what you can get
09:34<dwfreed>Linode doesn't do custom plans
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09:35<gparent>why cant they just cut the CPU in half and use pagefiles for extra RAM, duh.
09:36<gparent>silly linode literally HATES business
09:36<Benjamin>ok noted
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09:37*tafa2 hands gparent a pair of scissors
09:37<tafa2>I'll have the other half
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09:38<gparent>as long as you leave the L3 cache, that's the tastiest part *begins cutting CPU*
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09:39<smallclone>still waiting on a $2.00 plan before i even consider linode for my aggressive pornography spam business
09:39<tafa2>smallclone lol
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09:40<tafa2>smallclone dyu write all your own copy for said pornography spam business?
09:41<smallclone>in the golden age of the industry, perhaps..but that work has since been outsourced to india
09:41<gparent>even makes his own content
09:41<gparent>truly a self reliable advertisement network
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09:57<Client88>Hi, if I get a Linode 48GB with 4000 Mbps of bandwith, do you throttle it at any point?
09:59<DrJ>linode never throttles your data
09:59<DrJ>if you go over you just have to pay
10:00<Client88>Great, thanks
10:00<DrJ>If you exceed your monthly network transfer quota, your account will be billed for $0.02/GB at the end of the current month.
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10:01<DrJ>also, my bad I see you are talking about network speed not transfer quota
10:02<DrJ>you can't go over that so there is no risk of being billed for that
10:02<Client88>transfer speed
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10:03<Client88>ok, if I get a LInode 48GB plan I will allways have 4000 Kbps, no less, no more, right?
10:03<DrJ>but yea, no throttling :)
10:03<DrJ>yea, no more
10:03<Client88>perfect, thanks a lot
10:03<DrJ>good luck with that
10:03<Woet>Client88: it entirely depends on the route, peers, time of day, etc.
10:03<Woet>you can never guarantee there will be 4 gigabit available to every point in the world;
10:03<DrJ>fyi Client88, you said 4000Kbps not 4000Mbps
10:03<DrJ>which is why we are joking
10:04<Woet>its just your uplink
10:04<Woet>thats all
10:05<Client88>sorry Mbps
10:05<DrJ>what are you going to be running that you think you would possibly come close to 4000Mbps out?
10:05<DrJ>just curious
10:05<Client88>I just want a plan with a 4000Mbps uplink for the whole month, no restrictions
10:05<DrJ>not many people come close to that
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10:06<DrJ>well, just keep in mind if you are using that much your transfer quota will come into play as well
10:06<Client88>yes, it is clear
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10:07<DrJ>but again, you are just billed for the overage... they don't cut you off or throttle at that point either
10:08<DrJ>also, if that will be an issue for you... here's a little secret
10:08<DrJ>if you pay the overage it is 2cents per GB
10:09<DrJ>however, you can get another 1TB with a 1GB linode for $5
10:09<gparent>it's still 2 cents per GB if you don't pay it, plus lawyer costs.
10:09<DrJ>which comes to only half a cent
10:09<DrJ>since the quotas are pooled into one large consumption group... it's much cheaper to do that :)
10:11<DrJ>or a Linode 2GB which gets your 2TB for the same half a cent rate (still 4 times cheaper)
10:15<Client88>great tip, thanks
10:16<DrJ>yea, its just funny cause you not only get the transfer as such a reduced price... but you get a whole new server to use for whatever
10:16<DrJ>or you can just leave it off
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10:33<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • how to protect myself from psychic attacks <>
10:34<Woet>Zimsky: for you
10:35<tafa2>super effective
10:35<Woet>for cooking salmon on the barbie?
10:36<tafa2>for blocking psychic attacks and smallclone's pornographic spam campaigns
10:37<@bmartin>oh man psychics
10:44*Woet psychs out bmartin
10:44*bmartin dies
10:45*Woet eats bmartin's body
10:47<Eugene>Every day I'm Linodin'
10:50<@bmartin>Woet that escalated quickly
10:50<Woet>im hungry
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10:50<Woet>Eugene: not every day, most days
10:51<Woet>bmartin: no offense but i think bhanks tastes better
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11:48<linbot>New news from status: Service Issue - Lish, Weblish, Glish <>
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11:49<Demo>KFC Chicken!
11:49<Demo>Lish seems fine for now, just used it.
11:50<@bmartin>it's back
11:50<Demo>Super speedy recovery.
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12:30<V-Pariah>what could possibly cause applications to randomly close inside my linode?
12:30<smallclone>lots of things
12:30<smallclone>most likely OOMing though
12:30<HoopyCat>V-Pariah: anything relevant show up in dmesg or journalctl?
12:31<V-Pariah>please forgive me, but what are those? are those in the control panel?
12:31<grawity>no, they're applications inside your linode
12:31<V-Pariah>okay I understand better now
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12:35<V-Pariah>what would I be looking for
12:38<V-Pariah>well nothing strange seems to show up on dmesg as far as i can tell
12:40<V-Pariah>journalctl seems to have more
12:41<V-Pariah>still looking through it
12:41<grawity>so what kind of apps are you talking about here?
12:42<smallclone>journalctl -k | grep OOM
12:42<smallclone>or something
12:42<V-Pariah>i'm just running some game servers
12:43<V-Pariah>they don't leave any crash logs, just kind of suddenly poofs out of existence
12:43<Demo>V-Pariah: would you please pastebin the outcome of 'free -m' without the '' -
12:43<V-Pariah>the control panel charts don't show any serious resource issues
12:44<Demo>we'll know if you're hitting into swap
12:45<V-Pariah>swap isn't being used according to this
12:45<V-Pariah>2608 free out of 3939total
12:46<Demo>V-Pariah: what applications are randomly closing?
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12:49<V-Pariah>Demo some game servers i'm running for doom
12:49<Demo>V-Pariah: which operating system are you using?
12:50<V-Pariah>Debian 9
12:50<Demo>if you look within /var/log and your application, you should be able to find a clue why the process has halted
12:51<Demo>(cd /var/log | ls))
12:51<Demo>without the (())
12:52<V-Pariah>yeah got it
12:54<Demo>V-Pariah: use your favourite text editor such as nano or vi, and scroll to bottom (using page down) you should have a good idea why the process was halted
12:55<Demo>V-Pariah: dependent on the software it could be a bug or some other issue, may need to tweak configuration
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13:00<V-Pariah>hmm, unforunately i don't see anything suspicious
13:00<V-Pariah>but i think i might be able to check cron
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13:04<greggypoo>i have never seen a traceroute like what i'm seeing to fremont now :)
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13:07<Demo>I'm sure they're working on it :)
13:07<V-Pariah_>woops, cron didn't really help me
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13:09<Shif>Are there problems with freemont?
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13:09<Shif>all my servers lost network access
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13:09<Archon810>Fremont down?
13:09<AFM22>i think so
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13:10<millisa>For me too
13:10<@mcintosh>something is up there - not sure what yet
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13:10<_synfinatic>can't lish in via ssh or web
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13:10<Q3Man>Did Fremont just explode?
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13:10<Shif>4 servers down 300 clients mad :(
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13:11<JustinMac>I can't access anything in Fremont either
13:11<Greg_>Hi, I'm having issues on the Fremont data center
13:11<Archon810>9 servers down here
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13:11<_synfinatic>well the good news is that if it was a nuke, i would of noticed by now
13:11<Shif>this is bad
13:11<greggypoo>lol synfinatic
13:11<JustinMac>Came here to see if others were having the same issue... sounds like it :(
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13:11<Shif>did a bomb go off in their datacenter?
13:11<Shif>or an intern unplugged the core switch?
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13:11<Demo>could be a power issue?
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13:11<Q3Man>can't lish in either
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13:12<_synfinatic>could be a bunch of reasons
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13:12<smallclone>geez seems like the status page needs updating
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13:12<@mcintosh>smallclone: that is happening presently
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13:14<Archon810>Follow this for updates:
13:14<greggypoo>there it updated :)
13:14<Archon810>It's HE, isn't it?
13:14<_synfinatic>ugh, forgot my workaround the corporate webfilter is through my linode :(
13:15<_synfinatic>hey, the subscribe to updates for an incident is cool
13:15<Shif>hurricane electric?
13:15<Q3Man>Any hint on if we're talking minutes or hours of downtime?
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13:16<Shif>so upstream provider failure?
13:16<Q3Man>thought the datacenters all had redundant upstream routes
13:17<@mcintosh>they do
13:17<Archon810>This hasn't happened to Fremont in years
13:17<Archon810>Last time it did, it was a power failure, and backup generators failed
13:17<Q3Man>well, at least 2 years :)
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13:18<linbot>New news from status: Connectivity Issues - Fremont <>
13:18<Q3Man>Thanks linbot..
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13:18<greggypoo>when it first died, the route changed from one second to the next, bouncing all over he and telia, i never saw failover operating in real time like that before
13:19<Shif>someone forgot it's read only friday...
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13:19<Peng_>Shif: and now it's write-only Friday
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13:22<Shif>more like answer client calls friday :(
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13:28<greggypoo>it's been so long since an outage longer than 30 seconds that i feel like i'm through the looking glass
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13:29<Q3Man>So today is a good day to test our DR plan...
13:30<millisa>if it does end up being a power event, I'm interested in how the blockstores will handle it.
13:30<Demo>redundancy is key
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13:31<Shif>the manager still says the linodes are running
13:31<Shif>one can hope
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13:31<millisa>mine says they are running too, but the graphs havent updated since whatever happened
13:32<@mcintosh>manager would still say things are running for quite some time, if it were a power event (i've no reason to believe it is one, though)
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13:33<@mcintosh>(where "quite some time" = "the duration of the outage")
13:33<Q3Man>do we know what the issue is yet?
13:33<Shif>20 mins and no updates :(
13:33<Q3Man>I've got 2 hosts in fremont responding now...
13:33<Peng_>At least we know HE's phones aren't in fmt2...
13:33<Shif>got an alert that one host is up
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13:33*Peng_ points
13:34<Cathedral2>Mine is back up
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13:34<Archon810>1 host up here too
13:34<Archon810>out of 9
13:34<Shif>only 1 of my 5 went up
13:34<Archon810>it's a very confused db slave
13:34<Peng_>What's the uptime?
13:34<Archon810>it hasn't been down
13:34<Archon810>so that's good
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13:35<Shif>> 11:35:03 up 35 days,
13:35<Archon810>however, it doesn't have networking
13:35<Peng_>Doesn't rule out a partial power outage, but still a good sign.
13:35<Archon810>curl is timing out
13:35<Q3Man>2 hosts I can now ssh to both haven't been rebooted
13:35<millisa>resolver thing?
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13:35<Shif>can't ping other host from the internal network either
13:36<nate>center-wide outage? That's prob not a good sign
13:36<Archon810>ping outside IPs not working
13:36<Shif>l2 issue?
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13:36<millisa>got onto one of mine, it is pinging out ok.
13:36<Peng_>We'll find out eventually probably
13:37<Q3Man>yeah.. the hosts I can ssh into can't ping out anywhere
13:37<Shif>mine can ping outside
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13:37<Shif>but can't ping the other hosts that have a private network between them
13:37<millisa>name resolution is slow though
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13:37<Shif>oh, try pinging ip directly
13:38<Q3Man>dns resolution is very slow, but things are resolving
13:38<Shif>so the old adage that is always DNS may prove true once again lol
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13:39<Shif>i hope they do a post mortem
13:39<Shif>nodebalancer just came up
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13:41<Joe>ne1 know when the Fremont data center will be back online?
13:41<millisa>some of us have reachable systems again already.
13:41<BlkStormy>We have 1/5 hosts back up
13:42<Shif>i only have 1/5 and the nodebalancer up
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13:42<andy_>Hi, are there any updates on the fremont outage?
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13:42<Joe>OK my server in Fremont is back up
13:42<Q3Man>andy_: nothing official yet. Some hosts are now responding - personally I see 2/40 hosts that are responding to pings now
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13:43<Q3Man>does not look like it was a power issue as the hosts I can ssh into haven't been rebooted
13:43<andy_>joe, q3man: thanks. it's a bit frustrating that there is nothing official
13:43<Peng_>arby: Yes
13:43<Q3Man>arby: fremont is mostly down
13:44<Peng_>arby: it's partly back up
13:44<arby>I'm gettting 404's from status pages too.
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13:44<Peng_>You are?
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13:44<andy_>millisa: 30 minutes ago with no information
13:44<Peng_>You're the first person to report status page issues
13:44<nate>Q3Man: Still could have been a power issue, doing a slow section by section power up perhaps
13:44<arby>atm, yes. and no SMS re: status notifications, either
13:44<arby>which is why i'm here ...
13:44<millisa>nate: my uptimes dont show things going down
13:44<Q3Man>nate: no, as my uptimes show many days currently
13:45<@mcintosh>linode doesn't host its own status page, fwiw
13:45<greggypoo>a catastrophe could have taken out most linodes and all routers, and they just brought back the routers
13:45<greggypoo>giving us a window on the few linodes that survived :)
13:45<nate>Power to the network gear then? :P
13:45<Shif>shhh greggypoo
13:45<dzho>power to the soviets
13:45<Shif>dont jinx it
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13:45<Q3Man>There are still good odds on a North Korean attack if anyone wants to get in on a pool
13:45<Archon810>2nd server is up
13:46<Archon810>but it was rebooted
13:46<greggypoo>told you so :)
13:46<Shif>there goes the cache from several days x.x
13:47<Archon810>hopefully, replication will be OK
13:47<Archon810>fingers crossed
13:47<arby>'dashboard' sez my fremont linodes are running. lish sez otherwise. can't access either atm.
13:47<arby>fwiw ...
13:48<Archon810>I can ping and curl outside now
13:48<Archon810>but still only 2 servers up
13:48<Peng_>arby: Yeah, when things die suddenly, they can't tell the manager they're no longer running.
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13:48<Shif>no health checks?
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13:48<arby> is resonding for me again.
13:48<arby>responding, even
13:49<Archon810>come on, at least one web server come back
13:49<Archon810>so far both that did are db
13:49<Shif>almost 40 mins and no updates :(
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13:50<Peng_>arby: is mostly a third-party service. The DNS is hosted by Linode but redndant, and the logo is hosted by Linode in Dallas.
13:50<arby>just reporting
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13:50<Peng_>Does Statuspage have a status page
13:51<arby>and dealing with *my* grumpy clients
13:51<newton_>status pages for status pages as a service pls
13:51<Peng_> ah
13:51<arby>iphone & android apps yet?
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13:52<Demo>"We have identified the connectivity issue" - networking!
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13:53<f4r>now my dashboard is saying there is a host-initiated reboot
13:53<f4r>fuck I need to sort out my init shit
13:54<millisa>one of my blockstore linodes just came up. 1 min uptime. blockstore seemed to mount just fine.
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13:54<Archon810>4 nodes showing Powered Off
13:54<Archon810>2 more just came back
13:54<Archon810>looks like they're rebooting everything
13:55<@mcintosh>we are not "rebooting everything"
13:55<Shif>are you rebooting something?
13:56<millisa>just the ones with demons.
13:56<f4r>lish.ssh still dead
13:56*nate is just sitting here watching SSH retry over and over waiting pseudo-patiently lol
13:56<relidy>!point nate
13:56<linbot>relidy: Point given to nate. (1)
13:56<@mcintosh>looks to have been a momentary power issue... don't have much more info atm
13:57<Shif>someone dropped coffee in the psu right?
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13:58<Demo>Shif: not again!
13:58<f4r>someone was putting up a coathook and put a screw through a cable
13:58<ughugh>I know there are issues in freemont, but are they turning nodes off and preventing them from being booted?
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13:59<f4r>dashboard said mine just booted
13:59<Q3Man>ughugh: as far as I can tell, nothing has been rebooted
13:59<Archon810>3 of mine are refusing to boot
13:59<Q3Man>bah.. scratch that... one host of mine was rebooted
13:59<ughugh>my coworkers are out for my head
13:59<ughugh>It's sad
13:59<hanksims>Lish available on some Fremont Linodes but not others?
14:00<@mcintosh>hanksims: yes
14:00<Archon810>5 out of 6 servers that came back online were rebooted
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14:00<Archon810>3 remaining ones are Powered Off
14:00<Archon810>so while not "everything", most servers have been rebooted
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14:01<saturn>i can connect to lish but status shows powered off and nothing happens if i try to boot
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14:01<Q3Man>1/3 of my servers are showing powered off (and probably rebooting)
14:01<Archon810>this is my concern right now:
14:01<Shif>my coworkers are redirecting clients to me...
14:01<f4r>yeah mine is up and has full connectivity
14:01<Archon810>nothing has happened to these 3 servers in many minutes, Host initiated restart spinning for minutes
14:01<Q3Man>saturn: from previous experience with failures like this at linode, your box is probably in a queue to be booted.. usually they only start a few at a time to avoid swamping the host
14:02<saturn>Q3Man: k thanks
14:02<Q3Man>pressing the boot button won't change its position in the queue
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14:02<arby>is the problem the henet DC? or just @linode ?
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14:02<arby>you jus' gotta do ONE thing ...
14:03<Shif>do i need to manually power on the hosts that were powered off?
14:03<Peng_>Shif: no
14:04<Peng_>Shif: They'll be restored to their previous state. If they were on before, they'll be turned on soon .
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14:04<GDDCA>Is there a way to see if our website is part of the outage?
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14:04<Shif>try to ping it
14:05<digitalice>"We have identified the connectivity issues affecting our Fremont data center, and our team is working as quickly as possible to have full connectivity restored. We will provide additional updates as they develop. "
14:05<digitalice>Connectivity? My machine rebooted
14:05<Shif>another host just went up
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14:05<digitalice>looks like a power outage
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14:05<digitalice>I hope that the staff does a postmortem
14:06<Peng_>digitalice: Yes, that appears to be the case, though not everyone lost power.
14:06<Shif>1 hour of downtime so far
14:06<digitalice>mine is up
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14:08<BlkStormy>5/5 servers are back up for us
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14:09<arby>Host initiated restart
14:09<arby> Job Entered: 1974-01-04 00:00:00 Status: In Queue
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14:09<GDDCA>Says 5 are up but we're still not loading
14:09<arby>cool! wide ties are back.
14:09<Shif>my servers are all up
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14:10<ughugh>I'm back up but out CTO is being sketchy
14:10<Demo> = 1974
14:10<digitalice>arby: long time ago XD
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14:11<digitalice>ughugh: :O
14:11<digitalice>always have redundancy
14:11<digitalice>if you are running mission critical systems
14:11<arby>I can't imagine new jobs queue 'in 1974' are an indication of +1 health ...
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14:12<arby>back in biz (jinx!)
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14:14<ughugh>We aren't
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14:14<ughugh>Freemont has very non-mission critical applkications for us
14:14<ughugh>But people like to panic whenever anything goes wrong
14:14<arby>it's always happy-hour somewhere ...
14:14<ughugh>Our mission critical stuff I can switch to [insert large Linode competitor here] with running a bash script
14:15<nate>That seems difficult to do if you don't have access to the system to run the script on, so why not just set up a redundant linode under more actual load balancing or something? :P
14:15<arby>'linode competitor'. srsly. give it a rest.
14:16<nate>arby: At least he didn't drop an actual name?
14:16<_synfinatic>huh. my linode just got restarted
14:16<dwfreed>jobs entered with a date of '1974-01-04 00:00:00' are done to ensure the host processes that job first
14:16<dwfreed>it's perfectly normal
14:16<arby>nate: me, I'm moving to OracleCloud. A.S.A.P.
14:17<dwfreed>(insofar as a Host Initiated Restart is normal, anyway)
14:17<nate>oh hay mine finally came back up
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14:17<nate>okay time to check services and then go to home depot finally lol
14:17<Archon810>ok, we're 100% back up
14:17<ughugh>nate: the bash script isn't on the lindoe
14:17<Archon810>of course some replication broke, but nothing that can't be fixed
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14:17<Archon810>curious what Linode says in the post mortem
14:17<synfinatic>woot. i'm back to the real me
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14:17<arby>texting clients we're down for the rest of the day. Sunny here.
14:18<Peng_>arby: The specific date 1974-01-04 is a joke
14:18<arby>this is my laughing face.
14:18<Q3Man>I got one host with an "emergency maintenance" ticket for a hardware failure.. half the hosts rebooted.. my guess is there was some type of catastrophic power issue in the datacenter
14:19<Peng_>Yeah maybe I shouldn't have said that.
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14:19<dwfreed>it isn't really a joke
14:19<Peng_>True, but it sounded better than "a reference", at the time.
14:19<dwfreed>but its significance to Linode is that it's caker's birthday
14:19<dwfreed>(as in it's the date on his birth certificate)
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14:20<Demo>remember the days when he used to idle on irc
14:20<millisa>We demand to see the long form birth certificate!
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14:21<dwfreed>as I mentioned above, its purpose is to ensure the host does that job first when it comes back up
14:21<Peng_>arby: My point was, it's not random or a bug. THey could've picked 2000-01-01 or something, but chose not to.
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14:22<arby>My cup runneth over with confidence, if not side-splitting amusement
14:23*ughugh tries to think of the significance of January 4, 1974
14:23<ughugh>developer's birth date!
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14:23<ughugh>So caker was born on Jan 4, 1974 so boot processes are set to that?
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14:24<dwfreed>specifically the Host Initiated Restart jobs
14:24<smallclone>yes, linode is a massive cult of personality
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14:25<ughugh>Caker must be high up in the linode hierarchy. Making millions of dollars a year.
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14:25<smallclone>caker was born in 1974 but in a way he was never born at all, because he always existed, since the dawn of time
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14:27<Peng_>Christ Aker
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14:29<trippeh>I farted.
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14:31*ughugh points and laughs at trippeh
14:31<ughugh>Cuz I'm in 3rd grade
14:32<trippeh>sorry if it caused an outage folks
14:32<trippeh>it was a real stinker
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14:32<tharkun>hmm. Freenode trouble is solved yet?
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14:33<nate>I'm not sure linode can do much to fix freenode troubles :P
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14:34<tharkun>rotfl I meant Freemont
14:35<trippeh>dangit, home ISP hasnt responded to my request for a 4000Mbps/4000Mbps connection yet.
14:35<trippeh>I WANT IT NOW.
14:36<ughugh>You have that speed in your area?
14:36<ughugh>We max out at 100Mbps, even for businesses.
14:37<Demo>my home isp max is 16mbps
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14:37<trippeh>it's not in a official price list, but the infra can take it. so I'm hoping ;-)
14:38<smallclone>my ISP either offers 50Mbps for $40 or 1Gbps for $80
14:38<ughugh>My 50 Mbps internet just went up in price
14:38<smallclone>was not a difficult choice
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14:39<nyancat_>to be fair freenode does have a server in linode fremont tht also went kaput
14:39<nyancat_>so it could go both ways :)
14:39<trippeh>my current 1000Mbps is priced at about $60. I figure I can go a bit higher for 4000Mbps.
14:40<trippeh>I already have 10G link to the fibre plant for $reasons, so it is "just" a matter of allocating a 10G port ;-)
14:41<smallclone>i have a hard time utilizing 1000Mbps as it is
14:42<ughugh>My 50Mbps is $65
14:45<trippeh>must be tough
14:45<nyancat_>my 1000Mbps is $150 :(
14:46<ughugh>Wow, Spectrum is terrible. It doesn't even list the speeds of their various internet plans on their website
14:47<smallclone>i hate verizon as a corporate entity, but i've never really had a problem with their service
14:48<tharkun>For the sake of curiosity what the h___ happened on Freemont?
14:48<ughugh>Someone removed the plug
14:48<trippeh>someone needed it for the vacuum
14:49<millisa>tharkun: no official update yet:
14:49<tharkun>Yea I subscribed to the mailing incident.
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15:06<Eugene>tharkun - it appeared to black-hole after the FMT2 core router hop(ie, entering Linode's ASN), which usually means that Linode fucked-up something in their BGP tables
15:06<Peng_>like if they removed power to the BGP tables? :P
15:07<Eugene>It was a total packet loss, too. No in-between period of 50% flapping that indicates a congested link somepace. Just totally gone.
15:07<@mcintosh>as I said previously, it appears to have been a minor power incident
15:07<Eugene>"minor" in a building with A/B feed? ;-)
15:08<dwfreed>if a breaker trips, the B breaker's going to trip about 5 seconds later
15:08<dwfreed>or less
15:08<Eugene>The entire building did not trip.
15:09<Eugene>If you have proper A/B power you're only pulling 35-40% per leg, tops
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15:09<Demo>Other hosting providers were affected too, not just Linodes colo
15:09<Peng_>Oh? Not surprising, but I hadn't heard confirmation.
15:10<devilspgd>My machines started reporting bootups over a 10 minute span, so almost definitely power related.
15:10<Peng_>devilspgd: Some people lost networking but not power, though.
15:10<Peng_>So it seems like a power incident that took out all the routers and some of the servers.
15:10<Eugene>I'm a former customer in that building, and have some insight into how its wired. The core routers are on one side of the room, and Linode is on the other side. An entire bank going down seems possible, but unlikely. They re-engineered that building after FMT1 debacle years ago
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15:10<devilspgd>Sure, makes sense if all the networking gear is in one location.
15:11<Eugene>I guess it could be the Old/New sides.... which is "minor" heh
15:11<Peng_>Eugene: so if a UFO crashes into the middle of the room...
15:11<devilspgd>Eugene: Sounds about right. I wonder if they missed a spot when re-engineering?
15:11<Eugene>I dunno, I never saw the engineering drawings for the new side. All of my gear was on the Old side
15:12<Eugene>But it looked like they were doing a legit job
15:12<devilspgd>Either way, I'm pretty happy with Linode. Things break, but meh.
15:12<Eugene>Dumb question: is Linode using A/B power in that building?
15:12<Eugene>I know its expensive
15:13<devilspgd>I do wonder if DigitalOcean was waiting for something to break for their little announcement or if it is just coincidence? They tossed me $300 in credits to come back, although I haven't read the details.
15:13<Peng_>Eugene: didn't "possible, but unlikely" explain most of the fmt1 outages
15:13<Q3Man>Eugene: everyone is in the decenter
15:13<Eugene>Pre-planned Friday marketing
15:14<devilspgd>Peng_: Maybe the first blips. After that, the fmt1 outages were "Well, we should have seen this coming"
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15:16<Demo>devilspgd: that's pretty amicable
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15:17<devilspgd>At the time I was pretty evenly split between Linode and DigitalOcean, wasn't as big a deal.
15:17<Demo>even though when they first started they didnt correctly erase disks
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15:17<Peng_>devilspgd: Do you use SFO2? :D
15:18<devilspgd>Downsized to just Linode's Fremont now, but pretty soon I'll be out of the hosting business completely and just running my own business/personal gear.
15:19<devilspgd>Peng_: Nope. The most I had there was a nameserver, everything else was east somewhere, I think. Redundancy in case the continent split in half and stuff because that would be my biggest concern in that scenario.
15:20<Demo>i've also wondered why resolves to (a 'tradebot' site)
15:20<Demo>a simple mtr shows the quickskins domain
15:21<dwfreed>because they didn't reset the rDNS
15:21<dwfreed>which is hilarious
15:21<Demo>i know
15:21<Demo>its the litte things i suppose
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15:25<devilspgd>Stuff like that doesn't give me a warm-fuzzy feeling about a provider. Should be automated, but the fact that nobody noticed isn't good.
15:25<devilspgd>I'm more pedantic than most, I adimt.
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15:32<Demo>they had a stage of not correctly erasing hard disk too, and was retrivable by the next person
15:32<Demo>good job their pr team covered the incident up
15:32<dwfreed>don't forget the reused SSH host keys
15:33<dwfreed>where everybody had the same key
15:33<Demo>I didn't hear about that
15:33<Peng_>Demo: If they covered that up it wasn't successful
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15:37<ArchNoob>Hi, I think my linode got hacked. I recently received an email about "initiating restart" and then couldn't connect to it via ssh.
15:37<Demo>ArchNoob: is your Linode within Fremont?
15:38<ArchNoob>Demo: Yeah!
15:38<ArchNoob>it's one of those scheduled restarts?
15:38<Q3Man>fremont had an interruption of service due to a power issue.. .many hosts are restarting. it wasn't hacked - just rebooting after a loss of power
15:38<Demo>ArchNoob: Due to issues within the datacentre your host server may have lost power, see
15:39<millisa>Well, It *could* still be hacked.
15:39<ArchNoob>haha that's a good news.
15:39<millisa>Why not both?
15:39<ArchNoob>millisa: sure, but then. I kept wondering how?
15:39<Peng_>Magic hacker lightning.
15:39<millisa>Lightning with an agenda
15:40<ArchNoob>Demo: So, I logged in to my Linode and shutdown the box. Should I start it now?
15:40<Peng_>ArchNoob: Yeah
15:42<Demo>Trump on Americas Got Talent
15:44<ArchNoob>I can't connect..
15:44<ArchNoob>ssh: connect to host port 22: Network is unreachable
15:44<linbot>New news from forum: Email/SMTP Related Forum • How to debug Sendmail <>
15:45<Peng_>I can ping it but not ping6 it.
15:45<linbot>Peng_: 2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:feac:d2db,
15:46<tmberg>;) =)
15:47<Demo>ArchNoob: login through lish and start ssh?
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15:47<Demo>I get connection refused.
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15:49<ArchNoob>ooh okay man am going to do that now.
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16:02<ArchNoob>Demo: I get this
16:03<ArchNoob>Demo: when I log into lish and `linode-XXX logview`
16:04<Peng_>At the top of the paste, you were in your Linode's console. You'd have to type local shell commands (or your password), not the special lish commands.
16:05<Peng_>At the bottom of the paste, I dunno.
16:06<ArchNoob>I tried to use normal commands
16:06<ArchNoob>let me try again
16:06<Demo>try: "list" , type your vpn name press enter
16:07<Peng_>ArchNoob: What commands
16:07<Peng_>What commands in what prompts
16:07<ArchNoob>aaah :-D
16:07<Peng_>I misread it.
16:07<ArchNoob>I was not in my linode.
16:08<Peng_>If you type "hostname logview", it displays the log -- including, in this case, the prompt -- and dumps you back at the lish prompt.
16:08<Peng_>So you'd want to type linode-XXX
16:08<dzho>you know, sometimes I get distracted, but I close my eyese and take some measured breaths to try to be in the linode
16:09<dzho>it's important to avoide OOM though for obvious reasons
16:09<Demo>dzho: sounds like a limmy show sketch
16:11<Eugene>How obvious are those reasons, really? What if I intentionally trigger a memleak to exit vim?
16:11<Eugene>wtb alt-space-meta-memleak
16:16<Zimsky>thanks Woet
16:16<Zimsky><smallclone> still waiting on a $2.00 plan before i even consider linode for my aggressive pornography spam business
16:16<Zimsky>funniest thing you've ever said
16:17<Demo>my iphone constantly pings every 3-6 minutes mm
16:17<Demo>!point smallclone
16:17<linbot>Demo: Point given to smallclone. (13)
16:17<Zimsky>is it downloading CRLs or something ridiculously frequently
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16:18<Eugene>pings or HTTPSes
16:18<Demo>let me see..
16:19<Eugene>Sounds like its just Siri or something
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16:19<Eugene>Try turning it off and back on again
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16:19<Demo>nice find siri should be disabled because it's not plugged in.
16:20<Zimsky>carry around a battery-powered WAP/firewall/4g thing that blocks stuff
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16:21<Eugene>What is the most energy-efficient way to jam large parts of the RF spectrum
16:21<dzho>aluminium foil hats.
16:22<Demo>thats it I'm going to wrap it up right now
16:22<Zimsky>depending on the positioning, such a foil hat might actually amplify rather than attenuate
16:22<Demo>and connect my iPhone to my VPN
16:22<Zimsky>Eugene: which parts of the spectrum?
16:25<V-Pariah_>what would I want to edit if I want to increase the amount of time that I can idle via ssh and still maintain connectivity? it usually seems to drop connection way too quickly
16:26<Demo>V-Pariah_: screen + irssi?
16:27<Zimsky>it shouldn't drop at all in most cases
16:27<Zimsky>use mosh
16:28<V-Pariah_>hrm, i'll check mosh out
16:29<V-Pariah_>at the momewnt I use putty
16:29<V-Pariah_>i see :)
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16:33<Demo>V-Pariah_: if you're using putty, it'll be cool to install and irssi as a learning curve :) you simply exit the screen and leave it operating on the server, when you login again it stores all the information
16:33*dzho mumbles something about TCPKeepAlive and ServerAliveInterval
16:34<Zimsky>gonna need to speak up
16:34<dzho>no, I really don't
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16:35<Zimsky>probably best you don't
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16:35<dzho>I'll try not to get used to you being so agreeable.
16:36<Zimsky>probably best you don't
16:37<Peng_>The fun part is that, depending on the problem, it might be necessary to turn keep-alives up *or* down.
16:37<Zimsky>can you turn yours down pls
16:38<V-Pariah_>what exactly is tcpkeepalive
16:38<AlexMax>Anybody else get a warning about an emergency migration?
16:38<Demo>AlexMax: Fremont related?
16:38<Zimsky>from tunisia to italy?
16:38<V-Pariah_>let me see
16:39<AlexMax>Demo: No, Hot-lanta here
16:39<AlexMax>also heh, V-Pariah_
16:39<V-Pariah_>howdy alex
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16:40<Demo>I have no property within heh-lanta
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16:40<Peng_>AlexMax: What kind of emergency migration? You can try asking them what's up. Likely your host's hardware is looking flaky, so everyone else on the host got a warning, but nobody else did.
16:41<Peng_>So it's likely a question of how many host buddies you have in this channel, which is probably 0.
16:41<Zimsky>s/host //
16:42<Zimsky>go away linbot
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16:48<AlexMax>Peng_: It's weird, because I got three servers witht that message
16:49<AlexMax>which is why I asked
16:49<AlexMax>anyway, it says that the migration needs to happen immediately
16:49<AlexMax>.....but the server is still up, and hasn't been migrated
16:51<AlexMax>wait a minute
16:51<AlexMax>my eyes are cross
16:51<AlexMax>They WERE migrated
16:54<AlexMax>I don't know why I thought they weren't - I was also migrating another server at the same time
16:54<AlexMax>anyway, still, that's kind of a lag of like 4 hours :P
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17:00<tharkun>Eugene: Thanks for the insight. Take care.
17:00*tharkun goes zZ catching
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17:06<Zimsky>there you go AlexMax
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17:15<V-Pariah_>it's probably my bad luck that's causing these process crashes because, seemly ever since I started studying the issue today the crashes have gone from 1 a day to 1 roughly ever few minutes, heh
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17:20<V-Pariah_>is OOM the only thing that has the ability to perform -PKILL to a process that's causing significant resource loss?
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17:22<V-Pariah_>debian 9 users?
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17:25<Zimsky>you don't use debian 9; debian 9 uses you
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17:25<V-Pariah_>i'll try pasting a log of what journalctl fetches as output
17:26<V-Pariah_>not sure if it will help at all
17:26<V-Pariah_>actually it would help if someone could tell me that it doesn't help
17:28<V-Pariah_>thanks in advance
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17:34<millisa>did you look at the output of dmesg?
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17:44<millisa>doesnt look like an oom thing then
17:45<Demo>any logs on the applications that are halting
17:46<V-Pariah_>unfortunately not
17:48<millisa>anything in /var/log/kern.log? (not 100% debian 9 has that)
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17:48<millisa>(also not sure there'd be anything there that isn't in dmesg)
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17:50<Demo>V-Pariah_: what game application are you running?
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17:52<V-Pariah_>well, the other option is to debug the process
17:52<V-Pariah_>let me check the kernel log first
17:55<millisa> lists settings for CrashLogs and CrashLog_Dir. Might be useful.
17:57<V-Pariah_>yeah I tried that
17:58<V-Pariah_>unfortunately, no dice
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18:00<Demo>wheres the crashlog dir specified?
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18:02<V-Pariah_>it's /home/zandornum/crashlogs
18:03<Demo>any files in directory? use 'ls -al' to see hidden
18:04<Demo>ls -a works also
18:06<V-Pariah_>yeah i always do ls -la and it just shows the one log i had from 2016
18:06<V-Pariah_>which is kind of strange
18:07<Demo>V-Pariah_: how are you starting the process?
18:07<V-Pariah_>screen -dmS
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18:07<V-Pariah_>and using a shellscript
18:07<V-Pariah_>actually, before that I run a .py run script that does that on all .sh files
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18:10<Demo>does the game stay active whilst your ssh session is connected?
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18:13<SleePy>Ok, wtf. My node rebooted. I got a alert email about it. But no support ticket why and it doesn't show in the queue :\
18:14<Peng_>SleePy: Fremont partial power outage
18:14<Peng_>but if it was that, there should be a host initiated reboot in the queue
18:14<SleePy>But it doesn't show in the host queue that it booted?
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18:14<Peng_>It should definitely show in the host queue
18:15<Peng_>you in Fremont?
18:15<SleePy>I got one from a few weeks ago: Entered: 18 days 19 hours ago - Took: 10 seconds
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18:16<SleePy>The outage part makes sense of why it rebooted, but not why the log is missing
18:18<SleePy>Must have been a rolling or expanding power outage as well. I saw the earlier status alert when my monitoring software started having problems monitoring connections, but it was online during that time.
18:20<SleePy>Oh wait, my alerts did go off around the same time it booted up. Can't trust the time that the alert email was sent, but at least the body has it right
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18:45<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Download Linode Locally <>
18:46<Zimsky>I too, wish to download linode locally
18:48<Zimsky>mixing the definite and indefinite forms doesn't confuse
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18:52<stephenplatz>Is it normal to get a host initiated restart without any prior notifications (that I'm aware of)?
18:53<Zimsky>is it normal for cars to break down
18:54<stephenplatz>Seems strange to just get an auto email in my inbox that my server was restarted
18:54<stephenplatz>Not a big deal, I just remember this happening in the past
18:54<Zimsky>things break
18:54<Zimsky>it seems normal to me, in that sense
18:55<Zimsky>a common occurrence, no
18:55<stephenplatz>Zimsky: I guess my question was just if it's normal to happen without any prior notifications.
18:55<stephenplatz>millisa: Yeah, fremont
18:55<stephenplatz>thanks for the link
18:55<Demo>not as common as some providers although
18:55<Zimsky>does your car give you prior notification of it breaking down?
18:56<Zimsky>not usually
18:56<stephenplatz>Well, I don't drive an old car
18:56<Zimsky>even new cars with engine management
18:56<stephenplatz>It give me too many notifications of issues!
18:57<Zimsky>anyway, if something conks out without warning, that's going to apply to the end user (you) too
18:57<stephenplatz>I guess in any case, I should have been more aware of the issues affecting fremont
18:57<Zimsky>which is what happened, apparently
18:58<Zimsky>if it's a problem for your service, maybe invest in redundancy and failover
18:58<stephenplatz>I didn't mean to complain, it's not really, I've been a happy Linode customer since 2011
18:59<stephenplatz>And it didn't affect my service, I was just noticing something that I (I guess luckily) haven't noticed before
18:59<Zimsky>I'm mostly just being frank
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18:59<Zimsky>except when I'm linda
19:00<Zimsky>well, I'm mostly linda
19:00<Zimsky>being frank is only transient and short-lived
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19:03<Zimsky>(except I'm not linda)
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19:15<IT>Hello, Good day!
19:15<IT>Hi Milli
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19:16<IT>Can you pllease help me how will I check regarding the downtime of our server awhile ago. 18:00 UTC - 17:00 UTC
19:16<millisa>Was it in Fremont?
19:16<Demo>IT: is your server in Fremont?
19:16<IT>Nope, It's in japan. Fremont is in US, Am I right?
19:18<millisa>When you login to the linode manager, do you see a ticket on the issue? Does the host queue for that linode show the restart?
19:18<Peng_>Are you sure it's not in Fremont?
19:19<Zimsky>nah it's france, it's properly spelt 'freemont', which means "free montpellier", which comprises the eastern half of the city of montpellier and is governed by a free state, separate from france
19:19<Zimsky>or maybe I'm just making shit up
19:20<Zimsky>though really, the only apparent major downtime was fremont
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19:25<IT>Hi Milli, I think I already resolve my concern and just verified that this is caused of Fremont outage awhile ago. Thank you, Demo and Milli!
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19:25<millisa>Fremont, outside of Kyoto.
19:26<Zimsky>kyoto is my 6th favourite city
19:32<nyancat_>can you guys please stop rebooting our vpses
19:36<Demo>where's Woet when you need him
19:38<V-Pariah_>Demo: yeah the server stays active as long as the linode is up
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19:43<dwfreed>nyancat_: it's not like they're doing it for shits and giggles
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20:00<nyancat_>hell our server wasn't even rebooted, apparently it was powered off
20:00<nyancat_>so /shrug
20:00<nyancat_>Time to find out what's going on
20:04<Peng_>That... shouldn't happen
20:15<Demo>nyancat_: Lassie should act on a server that isn't running
20:16<nyancat_>Yeah, they just powered it off again
20:16<nyancat_>Like, they're clean shutdowns, they aren't initiated from within the vm, they're initiated from the panel
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20:34<nyancat_>Well, this is shitty.
20:34<nyancat_>All of our servers were just powered down.
20:34<nyancat_>We're asking someone to look into it now, but odds are that someone's going to get da boot
20:34<millisa>someone in your org?
20:35<millisa>that sucks.
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22:16<Raj_>I wanted to know if you allow escort listing Android app on your cloud
22:16<millisa>The TOS is here:
22:16<millisa>generally, it has to be legal
22:18<Raj_>Legal in which country
22:19<Raj_>Okay, thank you
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22:21<nate>Thing about escorts in the US is that is such a weird state to state and city to city thing, I wouldn't even know where to begin on trying to figure out if it's legal on a linode
22:22<dwfreed>it's a very grey area
22:23<Peng_>Yeah it depends on whether the local prosecutor is a client
22:23<dwfreed>Peng_: *snerk*
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22:33<_555>I want to refud Hello! My ID is: vodkk my email: I need a full refund to the credit card account money! Hope to work with you next time! thank you
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22:37<_555>Because it is English version, the use of difficult, English is not good, hope to get your help. Handle this.
22:38<Peng_>_555: You need to email
22:38<_555>What need I send to your mailbox
22:39<_555>What need I to send, and get to your mailbox
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23:56<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Duplicate Linode to new account <>
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