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03:39<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • i want to enhance my psychic abilities <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15867&p=76028#p76028>
03:51<Peng_>:T
03:53<@bmartin>:(
03:55<@bmartin>bet they didn't see that deletion coming
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04:48<Amin>Hello
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05:19<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • amour voyance tarot gratuit jeu ordinaire <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15868&p=76029#p76029>
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05:40<apacheproblem>hellp
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06:14<Woet>bmartin: when are you gonna prevent the spam from happening in the first place
06:14<@bmartin>In the future
06:14<Woet>wow are you a psychic
06:14<@bmartin>I may be
06:14<Woet>you got the vagueness down
06:15<@bmartin>it's a gift
06:15<Woet>from bhanks?
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06:15<@bmartin>who could say
06:15<Azam>Hi
06:15<@bmartin>hello
06:16<linbot>hi
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06:16<Azam>I forgot my account in your log in
06:17<dwfreed>https://manager.linode.com/session/forgot/username
06:17<dwfreed>and https://manager.linode.com/session/forgot/password
06:17<Azam>I’ll tried, but nothing
06:19<@bmartin>email support@linode.com with the last 6 digits of your card that is on file and we can take a look
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07:01<twomango>Hi Linode, for some reason my 2FA says "invalid token" and I am locked out of my account.
07:01<Peng_>Is your clock right? Is the token valid?
07:01<dwfreed>make sure your device's clock is right?
07:02<twomango>Spot on
07:02<twomango>thanks
07:02<MrPPS>:D
07:02<MrPPS>TOTP - the "t" makes all the difference
07:02<twomango>stupid iphone living its own life xD
07:02<MrPPS>haha
07:02<dwfreed>Google Authenticator has a thing for checking that the time is right
07:03<dwfreed>twomango: I recommend saving the Scratch Code in case you ever lose your device
07:04<twomango>dwfreed: ofc :-) Thanks guys.
07:05<Peng_>Finally my obsession with time bears fruit
07:05<@bmartin>mmmm bear fruit
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07:30<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • site de voyance gratuite en ligne <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15869&p=76030#p76030>
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07:40<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • western horoscope dates <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15870&p=76031#p76031>
07:41<Woet>bmartin: when are you gonna prevent the spam from happening in the first place
07:50<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • voyance horoscope sante <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15871&p=76032#p76032>
08:00<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • voyance tarot en direct gratuit <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15872&p=76033#p76033>
08:01<@bmartin>Woet.... never
08:01<Woet>wow
08:02<Woet>yea you're right, theres no solutions in this day and age against spam
08:02<Woet>sticking to the phpBB 2.0 captcha is the best way forward
08:02<@bmartin>now that isn't to say that we aren't going to prevent spam
08:02<@bmartin>but me personally, I am low on the old totem pole
08:03<Woet>you're at the top of mine
08:03<Woet>;)
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08:05<@bmartin><3
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08:10<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • tarot voyance gratuite et immediate <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15873&p=76035#p76035> || General Discussion • Bring up a PCB that uses an STM32F407 and LAN8720A Ethernet PHY <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15751&p=76034#p76034>
08:12<DanielNM>Good morning, Linodians!
08:17<@bmartin>Good morning DanielNM
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08:22<William>Hi. I saw this troll on the Steam forums that claims to be a data center employee (and posting this post at work). Does this look like conduct that is appropriate for a DC worker? Link to the post where he reveals this is here: https://steamcommunity.com/app/637650/discussions/0/1699415798760415575/?ctp=67#c1692662484241653328
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08:24<@bmartin>hey William I'm currently looking into this situation
08:26<William>Hopefully data center workers for Newark aren't allowed to use workplace computers for personal purposes. Or else I might need to shut down my website, revoke my SSL, etc.
08:27<@bmartin>I'm checking through this post now. Does he specifically mention working at a Linode Data Center? I haven't seen that yet
08:27<@bmartin>Just want to make sure I have all the details before I move forward
08:27<William>He didn't but I was just asking around if this is normal conduct for data center workers while they are on the job.
08:27<@bmartin>It certainly is not
08:27<William>He refuses to tell me where he works.
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08:30<@mcintosh>Linode doesn't own a datacenter so I'm not sure we can provide insight on the behavior of data center workers
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08:31<William>Of course if someone is badmouthing DRM measures, I wouldn't let them work in an IT field, too much risk.
08:32<William>And of course he likes to pick on those who stand up for the masterpieces that unfortunately must use these measures so they don't just become gifts for the warez scene.
08:32<William>Thanks for the insights.
08:34<Peng_>99% of professional IT people badmouth DRM measures
08:36<William>Do 99% of professional IT people bully game owners?
08:37<Peng_>I imagine not, though a dismaying number of IT people are jerks.
08:38<@mcintosh>s/IT people/people
08:38<hawk>That too
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08:49<dzho>wow
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08:49<dzho>got to love that "someone is wrong on the Internet, so I'm going to try to find out where they work" thing.
08:50<dzho>or the "if you don't love DRM you shouldn't have a job in IT" angle.
08:51<Peng_>Did that have anything to do with Linode?
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08:51<dzho>linode's response from an @'ed nick is "we don't own datacenters"
08:51<dzho>so who the fuck knows.
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08:51<dzho>maybe they traced it to a linode IP, but if they did, they didn't say.
08:52<dzho>I mean, OK, being concerned about the security of a DC is fair.
08:53<dzho>but to couple that with "yay DRM" and the weak attempt at doxxing seems like a weird mix to me.
08:53<dzho>but these days, few things should surprise me.
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08:57<hawk>I got the impression that the link to Linode was "William" who read that thread and from the sound of it is a Linode customer, who then came here to ask if the behavior described in the thread is normal.
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09:40<linbot>New news from forum: Linux Networking • netstat missing on debian 9 profile <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15818&p=76037#p76037> || Email/SMTP Related Forum • Emails going to spam on Gmail and Hotmail <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15849&p=76036#p76036>
09:41<diveyez>^ no its not, lol
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09:56<@sjacobs> well. it is available to install, but net-tools was not included by default in debian 9.
09:56<@sjacobs>as well as a few other distros. https://lwn.net/Articles/710533/
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10:09<paologroppo>hi there!
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10:11<smallclone>paologroppo: hello
10:11<smallclone>feel free to ask your question if you have one.
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10:16<paologroppo>is debian 9.3 supported on linode?
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10:18<hawk>paologroppo: https://www.linode.com/distributions
10:21<paologroppo>tnx!
10:22<paologroppo> what about ip adresses? I need 3 debian instances, 1 for email server, 1 for mysql and another 1 for webserver. How can I be sure they are not addressed each one in a different subnet?
10:24<hawk>I don't believe you can when it comes to the public IPv4 addresses. You may want to elaborate on the perceived concern.
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10:32<paologroppo>I need that they simply can communicate as fast as possible, less hop as possible, especially web server and mysql server
10:33<paologroppo>sorry for my english...
10:33<smallclone>erm well, if they are all in the same DC you can put them on the private network and then there's not really any "hops" to it
10:34<hawk>paologroppo: There's an optional private (rfc1918) network + IPv6 that should be good in that regard.
10:35<paologroppo>good.. how can i build a private network inside a dc? I suppose It's not as simple as assign a 10.0.0.x ip address to a vps...
10:36<smallclone>paologroppo: https://linode.com/docs/networking/remote-access/#adding-private-ip-addresses
10:40<paologroppo>good... it seems really easy...
10:41<Woet>paologroppo: why are you separating your webserver and SQL server?
10:41<Woet>unless you're using the $960 / month Linode there's no point.
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10:45<paologroppo>a lot of different websites to manage... some of them shares tables
10:46<paologroppo>do you think it's always better to keep web/mysql server together?
10:47<Woet>unless you need to scale beyond what the provider can offer or run clusters, yes.
10:47<Woet>otherwise its just pointless latency
10:51<paologroppo>how much RAM I need for the VPS, assuming I keep web/sql together? I use Lucee java based cfml application server
10:51<ponas>how much RAM do you need today?
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10:58<paologroppo>I'M testing the new website on kvm 4gb debian9 for web server, 16 gb for mariadb
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11:00<paologroppo>but mariadb server is a test server, it's used also for virtualization, file server etc...
11:00<paologroppo>however I can always upgrade the vps without installing a new one, right?
11:01<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • voyance de l'amour par tchat gratuit <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15874&p=76038#p76038>
11:01<Peng_>Right
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11:02<paologroppo>ok, i will give a try to linode! many thanks
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11:04<shif>was there a post mortem published for the fremont downtime on friday?
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11:06<smallclone>shif: nothing aside from what is on the status page
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11:08<@bmartin>Hey shif. When we have it it will be added to the status page https://status.linode.com/incidents/2088k0rt4rb9
11:09<Peng_>I bet it was a UFO.
11:10<@bmartin>I cannot confirm nor deny the existence of a DC interrupting UFO
11:10<shif>thanks bmartin
11:11<shif>looking forward for it
11:21<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • miroir magique voyance <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15875&p=76039#p76039>
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12:06<sitewestdev>hi there, I am getting a ton of traffic on a server from a linode IP that is not my IP li1190-224.members.linode.com IP 45.79.91.224
12:07<sitewestdev>I am getting a number of heavy traffic on port 19588 from this address
12:07<sitewestdev>before I ban it ? what is going on ?
12:08<sitewestdev>I can't assume all linodes are friendly
12:08<millisa>are you saying 45.79.91.224 is your ip or is not your ip?
12:08<sitewestdev>its not mine
12:08<millisa>then ban it...
12:08<millisa>if you think it's something malicious, send logs and such to abuse@linode.com
12:09<sitewestdev>thx
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12:41<Vipin>hello i have question regarding linode Plans ..
12:41<millisa>!ask
12:41<linbot>If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read http://alexfornuto.com/how-to-ask-for-help-on-irc/
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12:42<Vipin>there is a plan $40/mo having 8GB RAM, 96GB SSD, 4TB transfer ..
12:42<Vipin>does this plan include Windows operating server ..?
12:42<millisa>no
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12:45<Vipin>hi ..there is a plan $40/mo having 8GB RAM, 96GB SSD, 4TB transfer ..
12:45<millisa>ok
12:45<Vipin>does this plan include windows OS?
12:45<millisa>answer is still no
12:46<Vipin>we have to host windows based web application on wondows IIS using SQL Express..
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12:46<millisa>did you look at 'linode.com'?
12:47<Vipin>yes i visited.. but could not find relevant information abut the operating system..
12:47<synfinatic>fwiw, the 'lin' in 'linode' doesn't stand for Windows. that said, it is technically possible to run windows on a LInode, but considered 'advanced'
12:47<millisa>"High performance SSD Linux servers for all of your infrastructure needs."
12:47<millisa>it's the second sentence on the page.
12:48<eatonphil[m]>To be fair, you're not actually restricted to Linux. You just have to do the installation yourself
12:48<eatonphil[m]>Dunno if it works for Windows though
12:48<synfinatic>yeah, that's the 'advanced' bit
12:48<Vipin>hmm ok... thnx... it means in that case we have to install windows on linode...?
12:48<eatonphil[m]>has anyone gotten a modern windows running on it? I hadn't seen a guide on that
12:49<synfinatic>i'm going to guess if you can't read/comprehend the 2nd sentence on a web page, maybe 'advanced' isn't for you
12:49<Vipin>yes we want to configure and install by us ..
12:49<Vipin>ok .. i will check
12:49<Vipin>thanx..
12:49<millisa>(not to mention you'd be responsible for the licensing costs)
12:50<Vipin>yes..
12:50<eatonphil[m]>oh interesting, eugene has a guide https://gist.github.com/EugeneKay/1ff78396b57f25e69f1d
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13:29<kezi|alt>hey
13:29<kezi|alt>anyone here have an AWS instance?
13:29<millisa>lots of folks.
13:30<kezi|alt>what virtualization backend does aws use?
13:30<kezi|alt>is it proprietary>
13:30<millisa>they'd been xen, but there was something about them moving kvm at the end of the year.
13:30<kezi|alt>how are their ip ranges for blacklists? i see 12 months free of aws
13:31<kezi|alt>that seems a little.. tgtbt
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13:31<millisa>that's probably their credit for the smallest micro instance.
13:31<kezi|alt>doesnt take much to run a proxy
13:32<kezi|alt>whats the catch
13:35<millisa>there's no catch. they have some things that qualify for the 'free tier'
13:35<millisa>they want you to like it and use it for the things that cost a lot more money
13:35<kezi|alt>great. thanks
13:37<eatonphil[m]>millisa: I don't think they're actually switching to kvm (yet anyway). They just started offering a class of instances backed by kvm
13:37<millisa>yeah. I vaguely remember seeing mails about it becoming available a bit before xmas
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13:40<millisa>looks like it's the 'c5' instances for now that are kvm https://aws.amazon.com/ec2/faqs/#compute-optimized
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13:44<Demo>noticed their free tier couple weeks back, seems bulky to me, heard of lot of success stories tho, ymmv
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13:50<Peng_>millisa: c5 and m5
13:51<Peng_>I wonder how much Amazon Xen resembles regular Xen anymore
14:03<kezimo|cantident>is there a bandwidth limit on the micro instance
14:06<@mcintosh>if you have a ton of AWS questions you may be better off asking them in an AWS-specific channel
14:09<kezimo|cantident>i couldnt find one
14:09<kezimo|cantident>if you would tell me the channel server and name i would be more than happy to take a look
14:10<Peng_>If you like hosting companies with IRC channels, try Linode. :D
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14:18<Ttech>Peng_: good marketing. :D
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14:46<Demo>Linode Community <3
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14:59<Demo>Why does the snow ground UK to a halt? We need to up our game man
15:32<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Recover a backup <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15876&p=76040#p76040>
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16:01<cbirk>Zimsky's status: [√] rekt [ ] not rekt
16:02<buzz9e15>cbirk: do you mean "rekt" as in "wrecked" ?
16:04<FluffyFoxeh>he means "rekt" as in "rekt"
16:05<buzz9e15>ok. i get it. lol
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18:12<hassmann>Hi. Could anyone help me with the node balancer configuration? I can't get the http health check to work with nginx...
18:18<smallclone>hassmann: well, i mean, possibly?
18:18<smallclone>right off the bat, the Linodes are in the same DC as the nodebalancer, right?
18:18<hassmann>Oh, thanks for trying!
18:19<hassmann>Yes, they are. And I can reach my health check path via the public IP.
18:19<hassmann>But the node is marked as down in the load balancer
18:20<smallclone>so is it only in front of one node?
18:20<smallclone>(and if so, why?)
18:20<hassmann>Yes, because I am testing whether I change to Linode.
18:20<smallclone>ok
18:21<smallclone>the nodebalancer uses the private network to connect to your Linode. you added a private IP, right?
18:21<hassmann>yes
18:21<smallclone>and rebooted / configured the IP or whatever
18:22<hassmann>I rebooted. Do I need to configure? The node is set to autoconfigure network.
18:22<smallclone>ok, let's make sure nginx is actually listening on the private IP then
18:22<smallclone>it should be by default
18:22<smallclone>ss -plantu | grep 192.168*
18:23<smallclone>run that and paste the output please
18:23<smallclone>!paste
18:23<linbot>Please paste longer snippets over at https://bpaste.net/ and not in the channel
18:25<hassmann>https://bpaste.net/show/5eee62a076f3
18:26<smallclone>ok so i'm going to assume that 192.168.255.16 is your nodebalancer
18:26<smallclone>it looks like it's hitting port 80 on the private IP just fine
18:26<smallclone>i'm guessing the issue is with the nginx config
18:27<smallclone>what's the nginx config look like for the health check thing
18:27<smallclone>ie what's in the file for it under /etc/nginx/sites-enabled
18:27<smallclone>assuming you're using something debian-based
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18:29<hassmann>Ubuntu 17.10
18:29<hassmann>https://bpaste.net/show/752c58f4fbed
18:29<smallclone>that appears to be a bit cut off
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18:31<hassmann>The missing part: https://bpaste.net/show/cd67a6cda61c
18:33<hassmann>Sorry. Combined: https://bpaste.net/show/1cd17e01e9c8
18:34<hassmann>under sites-enabled there is a file "default"
18:35<smallclone>if that's a different file the one you showed me i would recommend removing it
18:37<hassmann>Done and reloaded nginx. Node still "down" after 30s
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18:40<smallclone>i'm a little confused why you have nginx listening on port 80 and port 8000 both proxying to port 7000 on the localhost
18:43<hassmann>just historic reasons, Ill remove the 8000 and try again. How can I check node balancer private IP?
18:44<smallclone>you can't check the node balancer private IP..you should be entering the node balancer's public IP
18:45<smallclone>in a browser or whatever i mean
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18:46<smallclone>something looks off about your nginx conf file anyway, after you remove that section i would try a quick "nginx -t" to see if it shows anything
18:47<hassmann>Can't test node balancer, because the node behind is "down"
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18:48<hassmann>nginx -t says: everything ok
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18:51<smallclone>ok, can you screenshot the nodebalancer config page thing?
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18:52<hassmann>Where can I paste it?
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18:53<smallclone>imgur?
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18:55<hassmann>https://imgur.com/a/f5xTn
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19:05<smallclone>hassmann: i have to run in a few, my next suggestion would be to curl the health check thing itself on your machine and make sure it's working
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19:05<smallclone>and if it is, curl the private ip/checkhealth and see if it's returning what you expect
19:05<hassmann>Uh, Linux noob here. Please, the commands!
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19:07<hassmann>It works via public: http://172.104.240.53/checkhealth
19:08<hassmann>And it works on private...
19:08<hassmann>Anyway, before you are away: A big thank you!
19:09<smallclone>sure! i have to ask again: are you *sure* these are in the same Linode data center
19:09<smallclone>even if you are, double check it
19:10<hassmann>Both say Frankfurt,DE
19:11<smallclone>so how did you confirm that it's showing up on the private IP?
19:12<smallclone>(of the linode)
19:12<hassmann>curl [private]/checkhealth
19:13<hassmann>Does this mean anything? https://bpaste.net/show/ced646023a87
19:15<smallclone>nothing unusual there, just shows that you have docker running
19:16<smallclone>you didn't set up a firewall or anything on this right?
19:16<hassmann>no, not conciously. Started with fresh image.
19:17<smallclone>oh wait i forgot it did look like the nb was reaching it before
19:17<smallclone>well, sorry but at this point i'd suggest that you open a ticket
19:18<smallclone>it must be something i'm overlooking but unfortunately i've gotta run
19:18<hassmann>I did that. They told me to ask for help here :) But now I'll return to them. Thanks, mate!
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20:21<millisa>hassmann: does it work on public? I see a 503 when I ask for http://172.104.240.53/checkhealth
20:21<millisa>it gives text, but responds with a 5xx status
20:24<millisa>relevant: https://linode.com/docs/platform/nodebalancer/nodebalancer-reference-guide/#passive
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21:07<Zimsky>cbirk
21:08<cbirk>Zimsky's status: [√] rekt [ ] not rekt
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23:25<Eugene>Every day I'm Linodin'
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23:39<Woet>Eugene: it's not every day tho
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23:40<Zimsky>yeah, it's intentionally misleading
23:41<Woet>!ops Eugene is a fraudster
23:41<linbot>Users with ops are employees of Linode, and know what they're talking about. The rest of us are the ever-so-helpful(?) community. Official Linode contact information: https://www.linode.com/contact
23:42<Zimsky>pretty sure you've driven bhanks away
23:42<Zimsky>good job
23:42<Woet>me?
23:42<Zimsky>you
23:42<Woet>more like your toxic attitude
23:42<Zimsky>git tae fuck
23:43<Zimsky>Installed packages to be UPGRADED:
23:43<Zimsky> trousers: 0.3.14_1 -> 0.3.14_2
23:43<Zimsky>need to upgrade my trousers
23:43<Woet>these software names are getting ridiculous
23:44<Zimsky>create a new crypto library called tsnagr
23:44<Woet>i thought it was just npm that had this terrible naming
23:45<Zimsky>people who use node are not considered part of society
23:45<Zimsky>they're in their own society
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