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#linode IRC Logs for 2018-03-13

---Logopened Tue Mar 13 00:00:06 2018
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00:00<Woet>- use SSO and link it to a Linode account
00:00<Woet>- approve the first post of any member
00:00<Woet>- use one of the countless anti forum spam blacklists
00:00<Woet>you're welcome
00:00<Woet>for future consults my hourly rate is $150
00:01<Woet>also, add rel="nofollow" to links so spammers know it's pointless to even try
00:09<Zimsky>I don't think Woet made a joke
00:09<Ikaros>Me, I 'toy' with spammers.
00:10<Zimsky>is that the "more important thing" you have to do?
00:11<Ikaros>Like, I've been known to throw in some randomly generated error 500/503 messages for spammers, with increasing frequency the longer they persist, to the point where it becomes utterly pointless to persist (where they're practically getting the error every attempt).
00:12<Zimsky>why not just 444 it
00:12<Zimsky>they don't care
00:13<Ikaros>Well mind you I said I had been known to do that. That was in the past. Nowadays I just serve up a nice helping of an iptables firewall block.
00:18<Ikaros>Chain Spam-Check (5 references), which chains into: Chain Country-Range-Check (1 references). Uses a set of ipset tables - two referenced by the Spam-Check chain: one for known spam ranges from other sources, the other for automatically added addresses and ranges + 6 referenced by the country range check table, obviously each one of those is a country I've chosen to block access from.
00:18<Ikaros>Each port I filter out references the Spam-Check chain
00:27<zifnab>Woet: your hourly rates are far too low.
00:29<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • cfe ifer et lmnp <>
00:29<Ikaros>...that's nice.
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00:43<zifnab>is there a decent mta yet
00:43<zifnab>i find myself in need of an smtp relay, but i'm far too lazy to set up postfix or exim
00:44<Zimsky>postfix is too lazy to set up postfix
00:44<Zimsky>zifnab: opensmtpd
00:49<zifnab>i'll look
00:49<FluffyFoxeh>Exit is decent but takes a bit of work to set up. Though for just a relay it shouldn't be hard
00:49<FluffyFoxeh>think it might even be one of the default Debian configurations
00:50<Zimsky>exim is a cacophony
00:51<FluffyFoxeh>you're a cacophony
00:52<Zimsky>I am however, not exim
01:02<zifnab>i'm half-assedly debating finding a service that does forwarding with smtp sending support as a user
01:02<zifnab>instead of setting this hell up
01:06<Woet>zifnab: google apps
01:06<Woet>for receiving
01:06<zifnab>sure, want to give me 5k/mo?
01:06<Woet>i mean
01:06<Woet>im paying $5
01:06<zifnab>er, closer to 1k/mo i guess
01:06<zifnab>can't type
01:06<Woet>sendgrid / amazon ses / mailgun / whatever for sending
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01:27<kezimo>HAI GUYZ
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02:30<namrata>need help in dns settings
02:30<millisa>what do you need help with
02:31<namrata>have bought bigrock mail system added new mx entries in my linode hosting
02:31<namrata>but its not getting updated
02:31<millisa>how long ago did you update the dns settings?
02:32<namrata>do I need to delete previous linode settings of mails and add new one ?
02:32<namrata>yesterday noon
02:32<millisa>what's the domain?
02:33<millisa>that's not a domain name.
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02:33<millisa>what's the domain name?
02:33<grawity>as in
02:33<grawity>I'm guessing it's that one because it has really messed up MX records >_>
02:34<namrata>yeah I think so I am not sure whether to remove old records and add new one ?
02:34<Woet>namrata: yes, delete all existing MX records.
02:34<namrata>is there anything to laugh as am a learner do not have any idea about this.. here to get help
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02:37<penryu>Hi. I'd like some clarification about the Hourly Billing model. Is anyone around to help?
02:38<linbot>If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read
02:38<millisa>If you haven't already read it -
02:41<penryu>It's not one simple question, but okay. I've been a "prepay" customer for a long time and am unfamiliar with the hourly billing model in general.
02:42<penryu>millisa: thanks, I hadn't seen that before.
02:42<penryu>I guess I was on-board until it said I'd receive a rebate if I converted; I didn't know how that figure was arrived at.
02:43<penryu>"Your account will receive a credit of $XX.XX for the unused time. This will be applied to future invoices."
02:43<millisa>so the old way you'd spin up a linode on the 3rd, and you'd get billed immediately for the prorated amount for the rest of the month. the new way works the other way around.
02:45<penryu>OH. that credit is the prorated amount of my current plan for March 12-31, and would be applied to the "hourly billed" balanced that would be billed at at April 1.
02:46<penryu>Okay. That clicks. Thank you, millisa!
02:46<millisa>you might trigger the mid-month billing stuff mentioned further down on that same page if you have enough linodes going
02:46<millisa>(So there's a chance you could get billed against that credit before the first)
02:47<penryu>Ack. Thanks for the heads-up.
02:47<millisa>One of my customers that did the conversion had that happen. They had several hundred bucks in the prepay, and when they converted to hourly, they were getting the $50 threshold billing for a while.
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02:50<penryu>I've only been using a fraction of my allotted services for years. Assuming I don't start throwing my money away in blockchains, I shouldn't expect anything catastrophic, should I?
02:51<millisa>nope. unless you were getting one of the ancient discounts, you probably won't see a difference in the bill.
02:51<penryu>Not sure what constitutes ancient, but... I'm not aware of such a discount.
02:51<millisa>you hit the cap somewhere around the 26th day
02:52<millisa>they used to have annual discounts ~10ish years ago
02:53<millisa>they mentioned it here:
02:53<penryu>Oh. No, I've been monthly since the xen days.
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02:55<penryu>Any caveats with regard to specific datacenters?
02:55<millisa>outside of tokyo1?
02:56<penryu>Yeah, I'd probably keep it Dallas or westward unless there's some maintenance or outages
02:57<penryu>Everything looks green now, but Fremont's seen some hiccups lately.
02:57<Zimsky>I'm scared
02:58<penryu>also, hi fo0bar
02:59<penryu>thanks, millisa. you've been very helpful!
02:59<millisa>fremont's the only one that has open blockstorage (that I know of) if you were wanting to play with that
02:59<millisa>newark's supposed to get capacity sometime soon
03:00<penryu>Hrm. Maybe. Good to know.
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04:05<uhohbro>hey guys i just locked myself out by enforcing the firewall rules
04:06<uhohbro>what do I do?
04:07<Woet>you use the console in your Linode panel
04:07<Woet>think its called LISH
04:07<linbot>LISH allows you to perform certain actions without having to log in to the Linode Manager. LISH's primary function is to allow you to access your Linode's console, even if networking is disabled.
04:07<Woet>dwfreed: excuse me
04:08<uhohbro>I'm on Windows is this possible still?
04:09<uhohbro>in meh browser?
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04:09<@bhanks>uhohbro yes you access it through the Linode Manager
04:10<dwfreed>you can also use putty to log into lish via ssh
04:14<uhohbro>shit i erased the line at the bottom when you launch it
04:17<uhohbro>how do you reset the console? Ive never been in here before
04:19<hawk>reset in what sense?
04:20<uhohbro>i opened the lish console and accidentally deleted the first line in which the cursor was flashing on
04:20<uhohbro>and i have no idea what was there before and cant log in
04:22<Zimsky>^C until something appears?
04:23<Zimsky>or if you're sure you didn't type something like DESTROY, just press return a bunch of times maybe
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04:28<hawk>Yes, it seems a bit unclear. There's not typically really anything there to erase, I'd expect
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06:51<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • CPU jumping to 100% from PHP <>
06:55<Woet>nice spam
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07:13<Woet>I want Linode employees to take initiative and solve a problem properly
07:13<Woet>but apparently thats not part of the hiring process
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07:29<paxuh>Hi. Are there any Linode emplyees around?
07:30<linbot>Users with ops are employees of Linode, and know what they're talking about. The rest of us are the ever-so-helpful(?) community. Official Linode contact information:
07:30<nate>paxuh: Anyone with ops is an employee, but this is a community chat channel so they give very limited account assistance here usually
07:31<linbot>If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read
07:31<nate>woet: It's job security, if you don't fix the spam you gotta be kept around to clean the spam
07:31<Woet>nate: i'd rather be out of a job then do pointless repetitive tasks
07:31<Woet>then again i automate anything i have to do more than once
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07:35<Zimsky>wait, is it "I automate (anything i have to do more than once)" or "i automate (anything i have to do) more than once"?
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07:39<Woet>the former.
07:39<Zimsky>ah yes I see
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08:04<Ankit_Mehta>I need urgent help onboarding on linode cloud
08:05<@sjacobs>Ankit_Mehta: what's the issue?
08:05<Woet>sjacobs: its urgent
08:06<@sjacobs>Woet: that has been established. determining exactly what is urgent, has not.
08:06<Woet>sjacobs: onboarding
08:06<Woet>on the cloud.
08:06<@bhanks>the issue is Woet obviously
08:07<Woet>wow, someone woke up grumpy
08:07<@bhanks>you know very well I didnt just wake up!
08:07<Zimsky>I agree, Woet is the problem
08:07<Woet>let me check
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08:07<Woet>oh yea i see your bedroom is empty on the feed
08:07<Woet>my bad
08:08<@bhanks>he's just stalking me again Zimsky
08:08<@bhanks>the usual
08:08<Woet>Zimsky: apparently I know everything about bhanks
08:08<Woet>i didnt know until just now either
08:09<Zimsky>bhanks: what are the concealed carry laws like in PA?
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08:10<Woet>i'll have you know my peephole cams are made of the best kevlar
08:11<Zimsky>so bhanks can just carry a kerambit
08:11<nate>$40, a background check and 15~ minutes at the county sheriff where you live
08:12<Woet>Zimsky: stattrak?
08:13<Woet>someone here will get that joke
08:21<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • fond de placement immobilier scpi <>
08:21<Woet>oui oui
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09:01<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Open source billing and support software <>
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09:06<Woet>nearly a 10 year bump
09:06<Woet>thats impressiv
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09:28<Ankit_Mehta>Is this cloud support portal for Linode
09:29<@bmartin>This is our public IRC channel.
09:30<linbot>If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read
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09:50<Woet>bmartin: is our relationship deteriorating?
09:50<@bmartin>I do not think so
09:50<Woet>i actually spelled deteriorating correctly
09:50<Woet>pretty sure i'm a god
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09:54<jesushcruz87>hello good morning I need help with activating my account
09:56<Woet>hello read the message again please
09:56<@bmartin>Hello jesushcruz87 how can we help you?
09:56<jesushcruz87>I need help with activating my account
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09:56<Woet>you already mentioned that
09:56<@bmartin>We can't get into account specifics in our public IRC channel but what seems to be the issue with your account?
09:57<Woet>bmartin: it needs activating
09:57<jesushcruz87>is that I can not enter my account to create a vps
09:58<@bmartin>You created an account and now you cannot login?
09:58<@bmartin>Email with the last 6 digits of the card on file to verify ownership. Once you do that we can take a look and see what we can do
09:59*Woet looks around for dwfreed
10:00<jesushcruz87>yes my user is: jesushcruz87
10:00<Woet>this is not your email client
10:00<jesushcruz87>My email
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10:01<Woet>bmartin said "email"
10:01<@bmartin>can you email us at with your request. Include the last 6 digits of the credit card on file so we can verify ownership of the account.
10:01<Woet>not "tell us your user id and email address"
10:01<@bmartin>We are unable to get into account details here in our public IRC channel.
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10:03<jesushcruz87>ready and send the mail
10:03<jesushcruz87>@bmartin ready and send the mail
10:04<@bmartin>Thank you. Someone will get back with your shortly.
10:04<Woet>jesushcruz87: i'm sure the Linode MTA doesn't need manual fetching of new emails
10:04<Woet>but thanks for the notice
10:05<jesushcruz87>@bmartin Thanks!
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10:31<linbot>New news from forum: Web Servers and Web App Development • Cannot connect to FTP server (No supported authentication methods available (server sent: publickey)) <> || General Discussion • CPU jumping to 100% from PHP <> || General Discussion • Open source billing and support software <
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11:51<@mcintosh>zifnab: where my donuts at
11:52<zifnab>mcintosh: you leave Galloway yet
11:53<zifnab>Blah have a "team building" day today
11:53<zifnab>Can I just go back to bed
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11:54<@mcintosh>i haven't been in Galloway more than like 3 times ever - but most of us are in the new office now :)
11:55<zifnab>I thought I tried and found out there wasn't donuts there or something insane
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12:31<Chuck_>Hey everyone, maybe I am missing something basic but do I need to do any config on my Ubuntu instance to allow sinatra to host over a certain port?
12:31<Chuck_>I am trying to access from my web browser and getting connection reset
12:31<Chuck_>I haven't done any iptables restrictions
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12:32<Chuck_>But I did enable ufw... I forgot about that
12:32<linbot>New news from forum: Web Servers and Web App Development • PHP ... run as www-data or as user who owns the website? <>
12:33<Chuck_>nvm seems like I can use ufw commands
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12:43<Lakhan>r u there
12:43<Lakhan>i need details
12:44<Lakhan>is anyone online
12:46<smallclone>feel free to ask your question
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12:52<Chuck_>hey smallclone I asked my question above and I thought I could fix it using ufw
12:53<Chuck_>but even after adding the port still having problems
12:54<dwfreed>do not expose sinatra to the internet
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12:56<smallclone>apache or nginx or whatever should be proxying to sinatra
12:57<smallclone>are you following a guide or something? it might help to see what you've done so far
12:57<Chuck_>well I completed the setup fine on my local machine. Sinatra has a built in web server so why do I need a proxy to it?
12:58<Chuck_>I am able to start sinatra on my ubuntu 16 instance
12:58<Chuck_>and it starts up fine but I can't access it from my local machine web browser
12:58<Chuck_>I opened a ufw using the specified port
12:59<smallclone>if you don't know how to use firewalls you're better off just disabling ufw while you're testing
12:59<Chuck_>is there more to ufw than opening the correct tcp port?
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13:01<smallclone>have you confirmed you have anything listening on that port?
13:01<smallclone>you can use "ss -plantu" to see what's listening on what ports
13:03<Chuck_>ruby is listening on 4567
13:03<Chuck_>also I disabled firewall as suggested
13:04<smallclone>and you're going to http://your_ip:4567 ?
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13:07<Chuck_>I am just using the default IP that I am using to make ssh connections
13:07<Chuck_>as I don't have my dns set up yet
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13:11<smallclone>could you actually paste the output of netstat -plantu, sudo ufw status verbose, systemctl status sinatra (or whatever the service is called)
13:11<linbot>Please paste longer snippets over at and not in the channel
13:12<Chuck_>sure one sec
13:15<dwfreed>it's listening on localhost, and for good reason
13:15<smallclone>^ yup
13:15<dwfreed>sinatra has a web server for ease of reverse proxying, but it is not meant to be an Internet-facing webserver
13:17<Chuck_>ok so you had mentioned using apache or nginx and then forwarding the requests?
13:17<Chuck_>just using sinatra as the app server portion?
13:18<Chuck_>seems like there is a guide here
13:19<Chuck_>I will check that out and give it a try
13:19<Chuck_>thanks for the help!
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13:29<Chuck_>got it working. Thanks all!
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13:36<Eugene>Every day I'm Linodin'
13:37<waltman>*every* day?
13:38<waltman>Weekends? Holidays?
13:38<Eugene>Tune in tomorrow to find out
13:39<waltman>Is tomorrow the weekend already?
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16:16<congreso2018>hi, i need help, spanish?
16:17<linbot>If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read
16:17<DrJ>a few people here might know spanish... most of us english only though
16:18<smallclone>i was just looking into getting a spanish tutor
16:18<smallclone>...that doesn't help though
16:20<Demo>puedo capaz de ayudar
16:20<congreso2018>i need vinculate my domanin whit my host , but i don`t know, vinculate my domain to DNS management but no to linodes dashboa, apologyze for my poor english
16:21<Demo>vinculate = bind
16:22<smallclone>congreso2018: you can point your DNS records to your Linode's IP address from your registrar / DNS host
16:22<smallclone>you do not need to use Linode's DNS Manager if you don't want to
16:22<congreso2018>y como cargaria el dominio al host? xq no me permite hacer el reverse DNS
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16:24<smallclone>que es xq?
16:24<congreso2018>porque* sorry
16:25<Demo>Ha estable un registro A en su Linode IP?
16:26<smallclone>yeah it depends on what you mean by "cargaria el dominio al host"
16:26<congreso2018>cargaria = bind
16:26<congreso2018>bind domine to hosting
16:27<Demo>utilizando Linode DNS o no?
16:28<smallclone>Quién es tu anfitrión DNS?
16:28<congreso2018>"No match was found for ''. Reverse DNS must have a matching forward entry that points to one of your IPs."
16:29<smallclone>debe tener un registro A que coincida con la IP pública de su Linode.
16:29<congreso2018>yep, I udes linode NDS with domine page
16:31<smallclone>you are not using linode's nameservers:
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16:32<smallclone>no está utilizando servidores de nombres Linode, por lo que los registros que cree en el administrador de DNS no funcionarán
16:33<smallclone>man i bet these translations are terrible
16:35<Demo>Dos métodos: establezca un registro A y un registro AA en su Linode IP que se muestra al iniciar sesión en Linode Manager, como un comodín, utilizando *
16:35<Demo>O use servidores de nombres Linode,
16:39<smallclone>no estás usando servidores de nombres Linode. Si no desea utilizarlos, simplemente cree un registro A en su registrador, apuntando a la dirección IP de su Linode.
16:43<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • credit scpi meilleur taux <> || General Discussion • scpi avec credit in fine <>
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16:46<Demo>I wonder if sanctions will be placed on Russia after the posioning
16:47<Demo>I highy doubt anything will actually happen
16:57<relidy>LE wildcard support is now available:
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17:00<millisa>looks like epel has an updated certbot that has acme2, too
17:00<relidy>Hadn't tracked that down yet.
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17:20<PS_forever>letsencryptssl support on linode standard plans?
17:20<nate>PS_forever: Linode's are virtual servers (VPS)
17:20<nate>ie; it's a root server you can do whatever you want on so long as linux supports it and it doesn't violate terms of service
17:20<Demo>Of course you can use lets encrypt on Linode, you have to do the configurtion :)
17:21<PS_forever>I'm on shared hosting rn with ssl never used vps
17:21<Demo>PS_forever: have a peep here
17:21<PS_forever>this is so nice
17:21<PS_forever>thank you a ton
17:21<Demo>You're welcome!
17:22<ajmitch_>looks like that document needs updated, wildcard certificates are available as of today
17:22<Demo>It sure does.
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17:56<relidy>Any DNS wizards able to answer if I need NS records for subdomains if I'm breaking that subdomain out into a separate zone on the same server? E.g. in the zone, with a separate zone for,
17:57<Peng_>If you're not using DNSSEC, it doesn't actually matter, but it's still Bad And Wrong not to have NS records.
17:57<relidy>Okay, wasn't 100% sure (added them anyway) if that was the case if everything was on the same authoritative server.
18:03<relidy>Peng_: Would you mind checking a record for me? I'm trying to resolve via Linode resolvers without success (DNS hosted at Linode). It seems to be resolving fine for me externally.
18:04<@mcintosh>relidy: what linode resolve are you seeing an issue with? just dug from newark and it worked okay
18:05<relidy>mcintosh: I'm trying from Dallas and getting ... random results
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18:05<relidy>Doh, forgot about the linbot aliases
18:06<@mcintosh>it's possible cloudflare's cache is still catching up slightly
18:06<relidy>It's been a while, but I suppose anything's possible.
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18:13<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • scpi pinel et assurance vie <>
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18:45<relidy>I have no idea what's going on. I can query my domain ( successfully at the auth servers (Linode/CF), Google DNS, and I can dig +trace successfully, but I cannot resolve the address using the local (Dallas and Newark) resolvers. Is there something I'm missing?
18:45<Peng_>What do the resolvers say?
18:46<relidy>Hang on and I'll paste it
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18:49<relidy>I'd love to elaborate, but I'm just floundering at this point. Is there a specific piece of information that I can get that would help?
18:49<Peng_>I know, I don't blame you, I blame DNS
18:50<relidy>"It's not DNS; There's no way it's DNS; It was DNS."
18:51<relidy>I'm actually really curious where linbot's querying, because:
18:51<Peng_>Any changes within the last 2 days that could have broken the zone?
18:51<linbot>relidy: 2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe2c:77fe,
18:51<Peng_>relidy: linbot's querying my recursive DNS server :D
18:51<relidy>Oh, heck yeah. I moved this zone from GoDaddy this morning.
18:52<relidy>And by moved, I mean by hand. I'm fairly confident I got everything straightened out, but ...
18:52<Peng_>So if the Dallas and Newark resolvers have the delegation to GoDaddy cached (for up to 2 days), and GoDaddy's nameservers deleted the zone, that could result in SERVFAIL.
18:53<relidy>Hmm, I didn't think the TTL on those records was more than an hour, but I suppose that's possible.
18:53<Peng_>The delegation from .com to domains' nameservers is always 2 days
18:53<relidy>.net in this case, but I assume it's the same.
18:54<Peng_>Oops. Yes, .net. It's the same.
18:54<relidy>Well, it's going to be an interesting couple of days then.
18:54<Peng_>Yes. :(
18:54<relidy>!point Peng_
18:54<linbot>relidy: Point given to peng_. (4)
18:54<relidy>!point Peng
18:54<linbot>relidy: Point given to peng. (22)
18:55<Peng_>Did you delete the zone in GoDaddy's control panel? Did they delete it? Can you recreate it?
18:55<relidy>I just changed the Nameservers there. I don't actually know what would happen if I switched it back to their defaults.
18:56<relidy>I think I'm inclined to ride this one out. If it doesn't sort itself out in a couple of days, then I'll panic.
18:57<@mcintosh>resolver03 stopped SERVFAILing after i cleared the cached values for from it
18:57<@mcintosh>so, it's possibly a bad/stale cache
18:57<@mcintosh>i'm clearing that domain from the cache for all the resolvers in newark/dallas, presently
18:57<@mcintosh>relidy: ^
18:57<Peng_>relidy: If GoDaddy was reasonable, they wouldn't fry the zone as soon as you switch away...
18:58<Peng_>!point mcintosh
18:58<linbot>Peng_: Point given to mcintosh. (28)
18:58<relidy>mcintosh: You're my hero
18:58<relidy>!point mcintosh
18:58<linbot>relidy: Point given to mcintosh. (29)
18:59<relidy>Yeah, well, they weren't terribly reasonable this morning when I was working on a different issue with them. It's actually what prompted me to move this domain over.
19:04<relidy>Thanks again you two. I was feeling a little frazzled, and while that may still be the case, at least I feel there's light at the end of the tunnel now.
19:05<@mcintosh>relidy: i'm clearing the cache for all DCs just for good measure - but you should be seeing better results now I think
19:05<relidy>mcintosh: I am, and I really appreciate it.
19:06<@mcintosh>happy to help :)
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21:53<@bhanks>hey kids. how is everyone today?
21:53<flan>Hey, I'm on step #3 of "Install and Configure Apache" in this guide: and they have suggested values for 2gb - anyone have 1gb and what do you set yours at?
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21:59<flan>Should I keep it as default?
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22:42<@bhanks>hey flan so this guide should be pretty helpful in determining which values you want to use for those fields.
22:43<@bhanks>goes into detail for what each field does and gives some guidance for where to set them.
22:53<flan>Awesome thanks
22:54<Woet>no worries mate
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23:38<flan>Hey I'm having difficulty finding "error_log
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23:38<flan>in my php.ini file
23:38<flan>I see log_errors but no error_log
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23:39<millisa>You may not have it set. (if you run 'php -i | grep error_log' at the command line you could tell)
23:41<millisa>(the web php.ini may not be the same as the command line version though - you could create a phpinfo web page to look at it - just make a file with <?PHP echo phpinfo();?> in it
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