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00:02 | <HoopyCat> | my partner got us matching t-shirts and it's the most wonderful thing ever. y'all should do it |
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00:11 | <Zimsky> | who is y'all? |
00:12 | <HoopyCat> | Peng_ and millisa and ... well, why not you too, Zimsky |
00:14 | <Zimsky> | this is 2018, everybody wears corsets now |
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00:20 | <HoopyCat> | Zimsky: goalssssss |
00:21 | <Zimsky> | unrelated, my cup holder is 5kg |
00:21 | <Zimsky> | it's really annoying to move |
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00:23 | <Zimsky> | but it's pretty much impossible to knock over my cup |
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00:35 | <idealbat> | Sup Guys |
00:35 | <millisa> | Greetings |
00:35 | <idealbat> | just had a quick question about linode VPS |
00:35 | <millisa> | !ask |
00:35 | <linbot> | If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read http://alexfornuto.com/how-to-ask-for-help-on-irc/ |
00:36 | <idealbat> | do it allow (legal) adult contents (pornograpy)? |
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00:36 | <millisa> | Generally, if it's legal and you know how to do it, you can |
00:36 | <millisa> | Their TOS is here: https://www.linode.com/tos |
00:37 | <idealbat> | thanks :) |
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01:01 | <Zimsky> | nobody cared who I was until I said !ask |
01:04 | <dwfreed> | don't forget 18 USC 2257 |
01:05 | <Zimsky> | nah you can just sell the company to someone else later and let them take the blame |
01:07 | <dwfreed> | it doesn't work like that |
01:07 | <Zimsky> | it's a reference to silicon valley |
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01:08 | <Zimsky> | no shit it doesn't work like that |
01:26 | <zifnab> | note: when one decides to scrape emails from github, to send emails to, about a research project you're doing for university |
01:26 | <zifnab> | you should really have IRB at your university review it |
01:26 | <zifnab> | and if you don't, and they get a call from an american at 4pm their time asking if this was an approved project and "what the fuck you can't just psam people like that", you're going to have a bad day. |
01:26 | <zifnab> | (the future is a lovely place with very cheap cross-country calling) |
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01:27 | <Sophira> | Hi. |
01:27 | <Sophira> | I keep forgetting about this channel, heh. |
01:28 | <Sophira> | rsyracuse: Thanks for the pointer. :) |
01:28 | <Zimsky> | lucky you |
01:30 | <zifnab> | australians seem like wonderful people too |
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01:30 | <Sophira> | They do! But I'm actually not Australian. :) I live in the UK. |
01:31 | <Zimsky> | which country? |
01:31 | <Sophira> | Scotland. |
01:31 | <nagchampa> | och |
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01:35 | <linbot> | New news from forum: General Discussion • application gratuite rencontre android <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15976&p=76244#p76244> |
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02:43 | <sup1> | Sup folks |
02:44 | <sup1> | Does linode's nodebalancers require nodes to be in the same region/datacenter? |
02:44 | <sup1> | Or can you have geographically separated nodes? |
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03:04 | <sky_> | hi |
03:04 | <sky_> | is there any body here? |
03:05 | <sup1> | hello sky_ |
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03:05 | <linbot> | New news from forum: General Discussion • Oracle Training in marathahalli <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15977&p=76245#p76245> |
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03:39 | <Eugene> | Every day I'm Linodin' |
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04:04 | * | FluffyFoxeh |
04:04 | * | bmartin Linodes roughly 40 hours per week |
04:05 | <FluffyFoxeh> | and gets paid for it! |
04:05 | <FluffyFoxeh> | I don't get paid to Linode |
04:05 | <FluffyFoxeh> | I pay to Linode |
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04:46 | <linbot> | New news from forum: General Discussion • plan cul morlaix <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15980&p=76248#p76248> || Feature Request/Bug Report • abuse department contact? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15979&p=76247#p76247> |
04:56 | <linbot> | New news from forum: Feature Request/Bug Report • abuse department contact? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15979&p=76249#p76249> |
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05:00 | <Woet> | > having to post a topic asking how to contact abuse |
05:00 | <Woet> | and this is the "top tips" guy |
05:00 | <Woet> | christ |
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05:11 | <jollero> | Does the standard plan restrict SMTP mail sending? |
05:14 | <@bmartin> | It does not. |
05:15 | <Zimsky> | as opposed to postal mail |
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05:40 | <jollero> | Great! I'm looking to separate the email server or one of my old sites. |
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06:04 | <tanja84dk> | I have a question about something that I cant get my head around. I'm personally running a mail server ( personal ) and when I check mxtoolbox then its saying that everything is fine and I'm not blacklisted anywhere. But I have noticed that I'm recieving emails now about that the ipv6 is blocked/blacklisted |
06:05 | <tanja84dk> | Does anyone know a site where I can check specificly the ipv6 to see where the address is blacklisted to try to find a answer to it |
06:06 | <Zimsky> | "about that the ipv6 is blocked" is kinda vague |
06:06 | <Zimsky> | who is it from? |
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06:07 | <Zimsky> | can they be contacted? |
06:07 | <Zimsky> | can they be bribed to fix it? |
06:09 | <tanja84dk> | Zimsky, just noticed the automated Mail Deamon mails with this in the header "Client host [my servers ipv6 address] blocked using sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org" |
06:09 | <tanja84dk> | Zimsky, But I have to figure out if the linode ipv6 address also is blacklisted some where else |
06:10 | <Zimsky> | bgp.he.net does RBL checks on a bunch of DNSBLs |
06:10 | <Zimsky> | maybe toss it in there |
06:11 | <tanja84dk> | thanks I will try there because when I test with https://mxtoolbox.com/SuperTool.aspx with the fqdn name for the server then everything is green |
06:11 | <Zimsky> | does that only check smtp functionality? |
06:12 | <Zimsky> | blacklists are a different behemoth, but I think most of them allow you to request removal |
06:12 | <Zimsky> | some of them can be absolute chucklefucks when it comes to getting addresses removed though |
06:13 | <tanja84dk> | Zimsky, yes that link is to test if your main server is listed on any blacklist. But unfortunally it looks like its defaulting to only check ipv4 when there is both a ipv4 and ipv6 reccord |
06:13 | <Zimsky> | o |
06:14 | <Zimsky> | dnsbls are mostly ip4 anyway |
06:14 | <tanja84dk> | And thats why I actually havent noticed it before |
06:14 | <Zimsky> | so idk, contact spamhaus and tell them to sod off |
06:15 | <tanja84dk> | Or could it be that the ipv6 range the server is on have been abused ( just the same situation that there offen is issue doing whois lookup from linode servers ) |
06:15 | <Zimsky> | in prod, it might not have any effect if it's just one blacklist |
06:16 | <Zimsky> | i assume you've checked your MTA isn't actually shovelling spam out |
06:17 | <tanja84dk> | just noticed it looks like its the same issue. Because spamhouse are saying when there is issue then they are blocking the /64 ipv6 range :/ |
06:17 | <tanja84dk> | Zimsky, yes the MTA is fine there have not been any issuea ( having 24/7 monitoring on to catch it if there is some issues ) |
06:18 | <tanja84dk> | guess I have to ask linode to change my ip to get around the issue |
06:18 | <Zimsky> | spamhaus has caused more problems than solved them imo |
06:19 | <tanja84dk> | Actually I have always liked them and is also using them myself to check the inbound mails and connections |
06:21 | <tanja84dk> | But yeah the sad part is when they block the /64 range as default when someone does something bad because then it hurts many people specially with the numbers of ipv6 addresses there is in a /64 |
06:26 | <tanja84dk> | Zimsky, but thanks I have tried now to request a removal from the blacklist and then we have to see how it goes |
06:28 | <Zimsky> | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
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06:31 | <tanja84dk> | Zimsky, But the funny part is actually that even google is totally happy with the ipv6 connection from my mail server. So I guess its maybe only were spamhaus there had a issue |
06:32 | <Zimsky> | that's what I was kind of saying but forgot to explicitly mention - it's just spamhaus, orgs like google don't care about blacklists like that |
06:32 | <Zimsky> | google has their own systems in place |
06:33 | <Zimsky> | anyway, outlook is usually the most problematic major email provider |
06:34 | <tanja84dk> | Yeah tell me about it. It took me over 8 month back is the days to get them to accept the dkim and spf |
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06:37 | <tanja84dk> | and if it wasnt for the prices at google for mail hosting then I had also moved the mail to google domain hosting |
06:39 | <tanja84dk> | or G Suite as the name is ( just noticed it ) |
06:43 | <Zimsky> | but then your mail is subject to google's scrutiny |
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06:45 | <tanja84dk> | Well I use so many google products daily so I dont have a issue with the security at google |
06:45 | <tanja84dk> | I trust google more then I would trust companies like godaddy, bluehost or other providers |
06:49 | <Zimsky> | scrutiny, not security |
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06:51 | <tanja84dk> | ohh my bad. True but again if you have a Android then there could then also be a issue about google's scrutiny. And if you look for a Iphone then its Apples scrutiny. I guess in this day and age then its not posible to get around the big players |
06:51 | <Zimsky> | sure it is |
06:52 | <grawity> | iPhones probably don't let Apple scan the contents of your emails, unless it's @icloud.something in the first place |
06:52 | <grawity> | then again |
06:52 | <Zimsky> | it's not specific to mobile OSes |
06:52 | <grawity> | when people use all those fancy spam filters which contribute to Spamhaus, etc. |
06:52 | <grawity> | don't *those* scan all your mail centrally? |
06:54 | <tanja84dk> | grawity, no spamhaus and other blacklists work based on reports and its based on internal dns lists |
06:55 | <grawity> | and how are those reports produced |
06:55 | <grawity> | I'm sure I've seen more than one "cloud scanning" antispam service |
06:55 | <tanja84dk> | I have actually no idea tbh |
06:55 | <Zimsky> | collection of magic blue smoke |
06:57 | <Zimsky> | they put nanobots out into the air which analyse the smoke and transmit the data to the spamhaus satellites |
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06:59 | <tanja84dk> | grawity, I guess maybe this way "Anti-spam companies, and blacklist operators like Spamhaus, SORBS, and UCEPROTECT, maintain their own special, secret email addresses known as "spam traps". Anti-spammers purposefully advertise their spam trap addresses (for example, on web sites) so that spammers may incorporate them into their address books." |
06:59 | <tanja84dk> | so I guess throug honeypots in a way |
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08:18 | <zeus_> | hello everyone |
08:18 | <@sjacobs> | hello. |
08:18 | <zeus_> | im a sysadmin. and i am faced with some questions about cloud |
08:19 | <zeus_> | and will love some simple straight to the point answers to them |
08:19 | <@sjacobs> | go ahead and ask. someone may be able to help. |
08:20 | <zeus_> | i already have ubuntu server running in my office with samba share protocol for my file share |
08:21 | <zeus_> | so my question is . if i buy a space on linode and install ubuntu server on it with samba |
08:21 | <zeus_> | how do my workers connect to the server and file shares |
08:22 | <zeus_> | anyone to guuide? |
08:23 | <grawity> | running SMB over plain Internet isn't exactly recommended – these days mainly due to security issues (only SMBv3 supports encryption, older protocols don't) |
08:23 | <grawity> | but also because the latency can become a bit annoying |
08:23 | <grawity> | not to mention, some ISPs outright block SMB connections over Internet, because lots of malware used to propagate through those |
08:24 | <grawity> | but if you still want to do that, then it's no different from local connections: you enter \\ipaddress or \\domain in the Windows file manager (or smb://domain on Linux) and that's it; it connects |
08:25 | <grawity> | running SMB over a VPN would solve the security issues, but ... there's no 5-word guide for setting that up |
08:25 | <zeus_> | so which file share do u suggest i use apart from smb |
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08:27 | <zeus_> | ? |
08:27 | <Zimsky> | depending on what purpose your 'file share' is for, you could just use https |
08:28 | <Zimsky> | albeit with a different set up |
08:28 | <grawity> | it's almost even less convenient though; you'd need WebDAV on top of https in order to be able to edit and save files |
08:28 | <Zimsky> | not webdav |
08:29 | <Zimsky> | if it's just for downloading stuff, just serve the files over http |
08:29 | <grawity> | yea I highly doubt it's just for downloading stuff |
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08:30 | <Zimsky> | did you ask? |
08:31 | <Zimsky> | people sometimes use weird things for otherwise simple purposes |
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09:39 | <albanoob> | Hello how can i update easly the cpus on my VM |
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09:44 | <Zimsky> | I don't think you update a cpu |
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09:48 | <albanoob> | Upgrade better |
09:48 | <albanoob> | I have a high load now on my vm and i need some more compute |
09:48 | <albanoob> | 1--->4 cpu for instance |
09:48 | <Zimsky> | just upgrade the plan |
09:49 | <Zimsky> | you get more cores |
09:49 | <Zimsky> | however it's somewhat dependent on the application |
09:50 | <albanoob> | <Zimsky> just upgrade the plan |
09:50 | <albanoob> | How |
09:50 | <albanoob> | That is my question |
09:50 | <albanoob> | Quick guide somewhere |
09:51 | <Zimsky> | here, I googled it for you - https://linode.com/docs/platform/disk-images/resizing-a-linode/ |
09:51 | <albanoob> | Hahhah damm im sorry |
09:51 | <albanoob> | I will google next time myself |
09:51 | <albanoob> | Thanks Zimsky |
09:52 | <Zimsky> | don't thank me |
09:52 | <Zimsky> | tho really, the linode docs have a lot of info |
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10:43 | <AlexMax> | Is atlanta having issues? I'm getting some ridiculous ping times between servers |
10:44 | <smallclone> | AlexMax: looks ok to me..have you run mtr? |
10:45 | <AlexMax> | What is mtr supposed to tell me? I'm using the private network. |
10:45 | <AlexMax> | There are no hops |
10:46 | <smallclone> | well that's something you might have wanted to clarify |
10:46 | <AlexMax> | Apologies |
10:47 | <AlexMax> | but yeah, I'm getting anywhere from 9ms to 49ms over the private network |
10:47 | <smallclone> | yeah that's an issue. most likely someone on one of your hosts is being DDoS'd bad enough to slow things down |
10:47 | <smallclone> | support: ^ |
10:47 | <@bmartin> | Hey AlexMax can you open up a ticket and pass me the number |
10:48 | <AlexMax> | Maybe we're just using a lot of hardware :P |
10:50 | <AlexMax> | let me get a complete picture of ping rtt's |
10:50 | <AlexMax> | and i will |
10:50 | <smallclone> | anything above 1ms is already way too high, something is up |
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11:04 | <AlexMax> | bmartin: 10156600 |
11:05 | <@bmartin> | Thank you |
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11:06 | <AlexMax> | Thank you ;) |
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11:56 | <AlexMax> | Hrm |
11:56 | <AlexMax> | Apparently there's nothing wrong with the host I'm on |
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11:57 | <AlexMax> | This is bizarre. The server's CPU utilization is very low, and there is plenty of free memory available |
11:57 | <AlexMax> | yet the load average is 0.3/0.4ish |
11:57 | <AlexMax> | I suppose NFS is handled in kernel space |
11:57 | <AlexMax> | so you may not necessarily see any load from that |
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12:40 | <FluffyFoxeh> | Do you know what load average means? It's the average number of Running processes over the time period |
12:40 | <FluffyFoxeh> | Not the average CPU utilization |
12:41 | <Peng_> | Which is why if you set NFS on fire the load average can be thousands while you're using no CPU at all ;) |
12:51 | * | Zimsky sets Peng_ on fire |
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13:07 | <AlexMax> | FluffyFoxeh: I know it's not CPU usage per se |
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13:08 | <dwfreed> | FluffyFoxeh: technically it's the number of processes in the run queue, which includes things that want to run but can't because they're being pre-empted by a real-time priority process :) |
13:08 | <FluffyFoxeh> | dwfreed: ah, good catch |
13:08 | <FluffyFoxeh> | It also counts process in uninterruptible sleep |
13:09 | <FluffyFoxeh> | (D state) |
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13:09 | <AlexMax> | I also, very occasionally, get this error in my journal |
13:09 | <AlexMax> | nfsd: got error -32 when sending 24 bytes - shutting down socket |
13:09 | <ericoc> | i want some uninterrupted sleep |
13:09 | <FluffyFoxeh> | I like NFS a lot but I also hate it |
13:10 | <AlexMax> | no clue what -32 could even be |
13:10 | <FluffyFoxeh> | it will just hose your system if it goes down |
13:10 | <AlexMax> | "broken pipe"? |
13:10 | <dwfreed> | linbot: errno 32 |
13:10 | <linbot> | dwfreed: EPIPE (#32): Broken pipe |
13:10 | <dwfreed> | yup |
13:10 | <FluffyFoxeh> | Cool, I didn't know linbot could do that |
13:11 | <AlexMax> | I don't use `mount` directly |
13:11 | <AlexMax> | I use autofs |
13:11 | <dwfreed> | kernel convention is to return errors as -<errno constant> |
13:11 | <AlexMax> | dwfreed: Yeah, I knew there was probably some global error number type thing, but I couldn't remember what it was cause |
13:11 | <AlexMax> | s/cause/called |
13:13 | <AlexMax> | anyway, broken pipe is when you write to a stream and the other end has hung up |
13:13 | <AlexMax> | that's not cool |
13:16 | <AlexMax> | linbot: errno 104 |
13:16 | <linbot> | AlexMax: ECONNRESET (#104): Connection reset by peer |
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13:21 | <craftyguy> | hi folks, are public IPs assigned to linode systems static or dynamic? |
13:22 | <millisa> | static |
13:22 | <craftyguy> | documentation seems to imply it's static, but I just want to confirm |
13:22 | <craftyguy> | thanks! |
13:22 | <millisa> | they last the time you have the linode provisioned. |
13:22 | <millisa> | get rid of the linode, you also got rid of the IP |
13:22 | <dwfreed> | you can get 1 IP from DHCP, but the IP will never change (unless you ask it to be or you move datacenters) |
13:23 | <craftyguy> | other VPS services call this out on their feature pages, it would probably be helpful for other potential customers like myself if you did the same :) |
13:23 | <craftyguy> | makes sense, thanks! |
13:23 | <dwfreed> | it wouldn't make sense to have a server with a dynamic IP |
13:24 | * | craftyguy has seen this |
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13:34 | <AlexMax> | To me, those error numbers speak to connection issues |
13:35 | <AlexMax> | ....which makes perfect sense, given the private networking latency |
13:35 | <AlexMax> | we've only got 0.06 user%, which means there isn't anything going on in userland |
13:36 | <AlexMax> | system% is 0.68%, which makes sense since NFS lives in kernel space |
13:37 | <AlexMax> | iowait% oscellates between 0.00/0.01 and 0.5 |
13:37 | <AlexMax> | steal% hovers around 6-7%, but I do notice that there was a spike this morning to 25%, which conecides when we were having the most problems with NFS |
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13:38 | <Peng_> | That's quite bad steal |
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13:39 | <AlexMax> | What, the 6-7? Or 25? |
13:39 | <AlexMax> | thank goodness for sar |
13:40 | <linbot> | New news from kernels: Latest 64 bit (4.15.12-x86_64-linode105) <https://www.linode.com/kernels/?ver=1522171304#138> || Latest 32 bit (4.15.12-x86-linode124) <https://www.linode.com/kernels/?ver=1522171274#137> || 4.15.13-x86-linode125 <https://www.linode.com/kernels/?ver=1522171076#299> || 4.15.13-x86_64-linode106 <https://www.linode.com/kernels/?ver=1522171076#300> |
13:40 | <Peng_> | Both, perhaps |
13:41 | <AlexMax> | I do wish htop was a little more specific about those CPU usage numbers |
13:42 | <AlexMax> | Oh, it can be, apparenty |
13:43 | <AlexMax> | ooo, blue bars |
13:43 | <AlexMax> | shiny |
13:43 | <tanja84dk> | Zimsky, are you onlinr? |
13:43 | <tanja84dk> | *online |
13:47 | <tanja84dk> | Peng_, Do you know if its posible to change the ipv6 address on linode? Because for some reason the ipv6 range I'm on is blocked by spamhaus on their sbl-xbl list. And its only the ipv6 there is blacklisted |
13:48 | <tanja84dk> | and I have tried to get the servers ip whitelisted on their site but its not working |
13:50 | <dwfreed> | what's your Linode's IPv6 address |
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13:50 | <tanja84dk> | dwfreed 2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:d941 |
13:51 | <Peng_> | https://www.spamhaus.org/query/ip/2a01%253A7e00%253A%253Af03c%253A91ff%253Afedf%253Ad941 |
13:51 | <Peng_> | Spamhaus has terrible URLs |
13:52 | <dwfreed> | cause it double-encoded it |
13:52 | <Peng_> | Ugh |
13:52 | <Peng_> | Two more times than necessary... |
13:52 | <tanja84dk> | Peng_, true and as it says there blacklisted in SBLCSS |
13:52 | <dwfreed> | Peng_: interestingly, SBLCSS lists IPv6 by /64 |
13:53 | <Peng_> | Awful |
13:53 | <tanja84dk> | yeah and thats why they wont whitelist my server because the /64 is blacklisted |
13:53 | <tanja84dk> | where my ipv4 is fine and not blacklisted my any |
13:54 | <tanja84dk> | *by any |
13:56 | <dwfreed> | tried https://www.spamhaus.org/css/removal/form/ ? |
13:57 | <dwfreed> | tanja84dk: you could get a routed /64 for your mailserver, and have it use that |
13:57 | <dwfreed> | !ips |
13:57 | <linbot> | Each Linode comes with 1 public IPv4 address and 1 public IPv6 address. Additional IPv4 addresses are $ 1 per month, and require technical justification. A /64 or /56 of IPv6 can be routed to your Linode at no charge. |
13:57 | <dwfreed> | linbot: help ipv6 |
13:57 | <linbot> | dwfreed: (ipv6 <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo IPv6 is currently available in all six facilities! More info: http://www.linode.com/IPv6/". |
13:58 | <dwfreed> | wow that's old |
13:58 | <tanja84dk> | yes and got a automated responce that it would be done within 30 min and that is 6½ hours ago |
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13:59 | <tanja84dk> | Ang I still recieve automated responces ( Mailer-Deamon ) from servers there uses ipv6 and spamhaus that its brocked for SBLCSS |
14:01 | <tanja84dk> | *blocked |
14:03 | <tanja84dk> | And unfortunally I have never been able to get the Public IP Pools to work so I had to abbandon that back in the days where I wanted to have ipv6 over vpn |
14:04 | <Peng_> | Making a /64 work is easy |
14:04 | <Peng_> | Making a VPN work might be more difficult |
14:07 | <tanja84dk> | or would it be easier just to say that the server dont have any ipv6 |
14:08 | <tanja84dk> | Peng_, and unfortunally no its not easy because even this guide make me scratch me head https://linode.com/docs/networking/linux-static-ip-configuration/ |
14:08 | <DrJ> | df -h |
14:08 | <DrJ> | oops |
14:08 | <DrJ> | wrong window |
14:08 | <Ikaros> | That's nice. |
14:08 | <Ikaros> | (you don't know how often I've done that, myself. lol) |
14:09 | <DrJ> | at least it wasn't a password |
14:09 | <Ikaros> | Heh. Thank goodness for that. |
14:10 | <tanja84dk> | Peng_, and also the tutorial there is saying for debian 7 - 9 but this is a debian 6 server |
14:11 | <smallclone> | well that's quite EOL |
14:13 | <Peng_> | It doesn't quite predate IPv6 though |
14:14 | <tanja84dk> | smallclone, well its also locked down really much and we are trying to get the software ported over to newer systems but unfortunally that takes alot of time |
14:18 | <dwfreed> | that guide was written after 6 stopped being a thing |
14:18 | <dwfreed> | it still works for 6, though |
14:20 | <tanja84dk> | dwfreed, but still even if the guide still works for debian 6 it still dont make sence for me |
14:21 | <dwfreed> | you put the IPv6 addresses you want to use in /etc/network/interfaces |
14:21 | <dwfreed> | you need to include your primary IPv6 address, and then any addresses from your routed /64 you want |
14:23 | <tanja84dk> | actually just remembered it wont work because I cant get rdns to a routed ipv6 that is only the automated ipv6 |
14:24 | <dwfreed> | yes you can |
14:25 | <dwfreed> | you set the rDNS just like you do for your main IPv6 address |
14:25 | <grawity> | you can, but only through the old manager website, not yet through the new one |
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14:25 | <tanja84dk> | well when I click on rdns then its only showing the Public IPs and not from the Public IP Pools |
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14:25 | <grawity> | input your domain name first, it'll find the IP addresses |
14:25 | <tanja84dk> | I only use the old site because the new were to buggy |
14:26 | <grawity> | great, you should have no problems then. |
14:27 | <tanja84dk> | But well I guess still that I just are going to disable ipv6 because of the faults in linode |
14:28 | <grawity> | PEBKAC |
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14:36 | <AlexMax> | welp |
14:36 | <AlexMax> | Linode, being awesome, has offered to move the NFS server. |
14:36 | <AlexMax> | Just took them up on their offer. |
14:37 | <AlexMax> | Now to wait for support to get the message and schedule our migration... |
14:54 | <Zimsky> | tanja84dk: have you considered ignoring spamhaus' emails? |
14:54 | <Zimsky> | if email works as intended, then there shouldn't be a problem, right? |
14:57 | <tanja84dk> | Zimsky, well its not working as intended becaues just as a example the block list provider for fail2ban that I use is using spamhaus ( the only reason I noticed it ). So every mail the server is sending to them ( Fail2ban reports ) they are rejecting because of spamhaus |
14:57 | <tanja84dk> | That were the only reason that I found out the ipv6 range were on the spamhaus list |
14:57 | <Woet> | why are people still sending mails from shared re-used IP space and expecting good deliverability |
14:57 | <Zimsky> | wait |
14:58 | <Woet> | most likely without SPF/DKIM too |
14:58 | <Zimsky> | where is the server sending fail2ban reports? |
14:59 | <tanja84dk> | Woet, my server has both dkim and spf there is validated |
15:01 | <Peng_> | Woet: Optimism? |
15:01 | <Zimsky> | woet, if you have alignment/spf/dkim/dmarc/etc right and it's not in bulk, then that /should/ work |
15:01 | <Zimsky> | notice there is emphasis on should |
15:01 | <tanja84dk> | Zimsky, the server it self are sending the reports automaticly when people are getting blokked ( ssh attemts, wrong mail password etc ) and the server is reporting it to the blocklist when there has been 5 failed attempt within 2 minutes |
15:01 | <Peng_> | Wait haven't there been like 3 critical exim cves since debian 6 died what are you running |
15:02 | <Woet> | why do you even want those emails |
15:02 | <Woet> | very confusing |
15:02 | <Zimsky> | tanja84dk: would it not then make sense that if you're sending f2b reports to spamhaus, spamhaus might think you're spamming them |
15:02 | <tanja84dk> | Zimsky, not when spamhaus is registering /64 ranges instead of the individual ip's |
15:02 | <Zimsky> | and subsequently put you on a blocklist? |
15:02 | <tanja84dk> | Zimsky, I'm not sending them to spamhaus |
15:02 | <tanja84dk> | I dont think you are reading what I'm writing |
15:02 | <Zimsky> | well, the blocklist then |
15:03 | <Zimsky> | perhaps I'm not |
15:03 | <Zimsky> | but if that were the case, I wouldn't be saying anything |
15:03 | <tanja84dk> | I'm sending them to blocklist.de there is the blocklist that I'm using and they are then reporting the illigal activity to the isp's of the ip's |
15:04 | <Zimsky> | /64s are so easy to get that some things just assume the offender has control over the entire /64 they're in |
15:04 | <Zimsky> | fwiw an ssh attempt isn't illegal |
15:04 | <Zimsky> | at least not in my legal system |
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15:04 | <tanja84dk> | but blocklist.de is validating emails with spamhaus in their mailserver so when the ipv6 range is on the spamhaus list then their server is rejecting the mail |
15:05 | <Zimsky> | well I dunno then |
15:05 | <Zimsky> | get linode to give you a fresh /64 or request removal from spamhaus |
15:05 | <Zimsky> | I defer to Woet |
15:06 | <tanja84dk> | I have also asked linode in a support ticket now to fix it from their end |
15:06 | <Ikaros> | The former, bad idea without solving the problem that caused it to happen in the first place, you'll just end up getting that /64 listed otherwise. |
15:06 | <Woet> | or just use a provider like mailgun/sendgrid/amazon ses if you want emails delivered |
15:06 | <tanja84dk> | or all my personal and work related servers will be moved to a more profesional provider |
15:06 | <Zimsky> | Ikaros: so get another /64 |
15:06 | <Zimsky> | ????? |
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15:07 | <Zimsky> | it's not really linode's fault |
15:07 | <Zimsky> | in fact, it isn't at all |
15:07 | <Peng_> | Get a /56 and spam away |
15:08 | <tanja84dk> | actually it is specially when they know how spam lists work. So ether they should work together with them, or give people as standard a /64 to get around it |
15:08 | <ericoc> | Zimsky: imma ssh to you!!! |
15:08 | * | Ikaros sighs |
15:08 | <Zimsky> | joke's on you, I run telnet |
15:08 | <ericoc> | awww plan’s foiled |
15:09 | <Zimsky> | tanja84dk: blacklists like that hardly affect anything though |
15:09 | <Zimsky> | linode doesn't control them, and blacklist operators are usually crusty twats who don't care |
15:09 | <Woet> | Zimsky: you should become a DNSBL manager |
15:10 | <Zimsky> | I'm not even nearly crusty enough |
15:10 | <Zimsky> | it's more the type of thing I'd expect Ikaros to do |
15:11 | <Woet> | what about dwfreed? he could run a phishing blacklist |
15:11 | <Ikaros> | The point is, they could try to work with them all they want but they're (the blacklist operators) aren't inclined or required to cooperate if they really, truly don't want to. I mean if they wanted to they could sit there and claim every single block is a spam block. |
15:11 | <Zimsky> | that's basically what I just said |
15:11 | <Ikaros> | I mean, for example, Spamhaus could look at you and laugh. |
15:11 | <Zimsky> | that's basically what I just said |
15:11 | <Ikaros> | And you couldn't do anything about it |
15:11 | <Ikaros> | 'cause that's just how they would be |
15:11 | <Woet> | that's basically what I just said |
15:12 | <Zimsky> | that's basically what I just said |
15:12 | <Ikaros> | You two shut up. |
15:12 | <Zimsky> | that's basically what I just said! |
15:13 | <Zimsky> | though earlier I did say <Zimsky> spamhaus has caused more problems than solved them imo |
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15:16 | <Ikaros> | tanja84dk: Not to sound mean but, this seems more to me like some lame attempt to fault Linode for something that isn't fully in their control. I mean sure you could get another /64, but what's to stop blacklist providers like Spamhaus deciding to list those too? Or even if Spamhaus delists the current /64 you have, what's to stop them from deciding to re-list it? You know what you should start |
15:16 | <Ikaros> | with - upgrading anything that's EOL. There shouldn't be any reason to run EOL software versions. None. |
15:17 | <Zimsky> | TBWIJS |
15:18 | <tanja84dk> | muting Ikaros for going off topic on pursose to attack me directly |
15:19 | <kenyon> | tanja84dk is still trolling here huh |
15:19 | <Zimsky> | that isn't really what Ikaros is doing |
15:19 | <Zimsky> | and that isn't what tanja is doing |
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15:20 | <AlexMax> | Oh man |
15:20 | <AlexMax> | Something is messed up |
15:20 | <Ikaros> | Attack you? Hardly. |
15:21 | <AlexMax> | the transfer is taking a LOT longer than expected |
15:21 | <Zimsky> | AlexMax: don't talk about Ikaros like that |
15:23 | <AlexMax> | Who? |
15:23 | <Ikaros> | AlexMax pay him no mind |
15:27 | <Zimsky> | s/im/er/ |
15:27 | <Ikaros> | Anyway. Y'know it's bad etiquette to publically announce that you're ignoring/muting someone. And in tanja's case that just proves to me that they're refusing to accept the truth of the matter that both myself and others in this channel clearly outlined...perhaps because they did not want to accept any explanation from someone who disagrees with their belief. |
15:28 | <Ikaros> | Such behavior in certain other channels I'm in elsewhere (note: plural, as in multiple), in fact, actually earns you a ban - because it's considered completely unnecessary and hurtful. |
15:28 | <Zimsky> | be proud of it, Ikaros. the fact that someone has put you on ignore for something like this means you've gotten under their skin |
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15:29 | <Ikaros> | I have zero sympathy to those completely unwilling to accept the truth. |
15:29 | <Zimsky> | one's truth is another's fake news |
15:29 | <smallclone> | ugh what happened here |
15:30 | <@bhanks> | not a clue |
15:30 | <Peng_> | smallclone: IPv6 |
15:30 | <Zimsky> | the precursor to Jonestown 2? |
15:30 | * | Ikaros sighs |
15:30 | <@bhanks> | darn. |
15:30 | <Ikaros> | Not how I wanted to spend my day tbh, having to try and set some moron straight. |
15:30 | <Zimsky> | Ikaros: Y'know it's bad etiquette to publically announce that you're sighing. |
15:31 | <smallclone> | just go to a more "professional" provider who will apparently magically ensure that your IPs for your woefully out of date and unsecure email server are never listed anywhere |
15:31 | <Ikaros> | ...hah. |
15:31 | <Zimsky> | bad case of blue smoke :/ |
15:32 | <Peng_> | smallclone: Any provider that calls themselves "professional" probably doesn't support IPv6 |
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15:32 | <Ikaros> | Heh... |
15:33 | <Zimsky> | microsoft calls themselves professional and their mail stuff doesn't appear to support ipv6 |
15:35 | <Ikaros> | ofc putting me on ignore is no easy task either. I could lose my current IPv4 lease for some reason which would disable my IPv6 tunnel (until I corrected the endpoint), which would force me to connect here with my IPv4...and of course the disconnect would cause me to use my alternate nick. So I might inadvertently bypass someone's ignore list without meaning to. Just saying >.> |
15:36 | <AlexMax> | Is it possible to stop a migration? |
15:36 | <Zimsky> | why are you making a big deal of it? |
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15:37 | <smallclone> | AlexMax: not easily. not easily at all, really. you could open a ticket. |
15:38 | <Ikaros> | Zimsky: I have nothing better to do. It's raining outside :( |
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15:38 | <Zimsky> | Ikaros: read about genetics |
15:38 | <linbot> | New news from forum: General Discussion • astrological signs in order by date <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15983&p=76252#p76252> |
15:38 | <AlexMax> | Well, I know I have no option to stop the migration. I was wondering if linode could. |
15:38 | <AlexMax> | Not that I want them to yet, but is the option open. |
15:38 | <Peng_> | Is it actively migrating nw, or is it jus scheduled? |
15:39 | <AlexMax> | actively migrating |
15:39 | <Ikaros> | Well if it's already on its way then...well... |
15:39 | <Peng_> | It'll probably be done by the time you explain it to someone on the phone.. |
15:39 | <AlexMax> | Uh....no. I think not. |
15:40 | <AlexMax> | It's been 42 minutes and only is 14% done. |
15:40 | <Peng_> | What. |
15:40 | <Peng_> | How big is it!? |
15:40 | <Peng_> | Usually they transfer at like 1 Gbps |
15:40 | <Ikaros> | Oh. I see that's why he was asking. |
15:40 | <Peng_> | No shit! |
15:40 | <Ikaros> | Yeah that's gotta be one big Linode for that to take that long |
15:40 | <Ikaros> | lol |
15:41 | <AlexMax> | This thing says it's only transferring at 11.6 megabytes per second |
15:41 | <Ikaros> | ...that's slower than my upload. |
15:41 | <Peng_> | They don't *promise* that it will be fast, so people can't get disappointed, but usually it's faster than 1 Gbps. |
15:42 | <Zimsky> | so it's what, 200G? |
15:43 | <Ikaros> | Hm. I don't think the size is the sole issue though. Yeah, how big is this particular Linode? |
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15:43 | <AlexMax> | 196352 MB is the disk size |
15:43 | <Zimsky> | ha my math is right |
15:43 | <Ikaros> | Wow. Good guess. |
15:43 | <smallclone> | where you're migrating to / from is probably the main factor |
15:44 | <AlexMax> | atlanta to atalanta |
15:44 | <Zimsky> | Ikaros: 14% done, and it's been 42 minutes at 11.6MB/s |
15:44 | <smallclone> | so you're resizing it? |
15:44 | <AlexMax> | No |
15:44 | <Ikaros> | Mmm... |
15:44 | <Peng_> | smallclone: No, they asked for a migration because performance sucked |
15:44 | <smallclone> | just migrating to rule out some host issue |
15:44 | <smallclone> | ok |
15:44 | <Peng_> | Apparently... performance really sucks |
15:44 | <Ikaros> | That's strange then |
15:45 | <AlexMax> | Yeah, I wonder if this is all connected |
15:45 | <smallclone> | welll this could be related to that whole "perfornace sucking" thing, yeah |
15:45 | <Ikaros> | There shouldn't be any reason it should be going THAT slow within the D |
15:45 | <Ikaros> | DC* |
15:45 | <smallclone> | yeah but that was also true of the pings you were seeing earlier. |
15:45 | <AlexMax> | I'm pinging support to ask |
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15:45 | <smallclone> | i would try to let it run out if you can |
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15:46 | <Zimsky> | don't let it run too far or you'll never see it again. That's what happened to charlie :( |
15:46 | <Ikaros> | ...heh |
15:46 | <smallclone> | they *can* cancel them, but it takes an administrator to do it, or at least it did when i was there |
15:47 | <AlexMax> | I haven't asked anybody to cancel anything |
15:47 | <Ikaros> | I'm going to throw this keyboard out the damn window if that spacebar sticks on me one more frickin' time |
15:47 | <Ikaros> | :/ |
15:47 | <AlexMax> | for all I know, this could be a problem with the network and restarting it will be just as slow |
15:48 | <AlexMax> | might as well be 4 hours and not 4 hours and 40 minutes |
15:50 | <Zimsky> | RIP service uptime |
15:53 | <Ikaros> | Yeah I still maintain that a migration within the DC should never be that slow under normal conditions. AlexMax I'd probably say you were spot on when you pondered the idea of this all being related to the same issue. |
15:55 | <AlexMax> | Heh |
15:55 | <AlexMax> | Support says it's a "bit slower" than usual - they'll keep an eye on and and it might increase in speed soon. |
15:56 | <Peng_> | a bit! |
15:56 | <AlexMax> | :P |
15:56 | <Ikaros> | ...hah. |
15:56 | <Ikaros> | I'd say more than "a bit" |
15:56 | <Ikaros> | Try "a lot" |
15:56 | <AlexMax> | I wonder if that's code for "Oh shit..." |
15:56 | <Zimsky> | so in other words, they don't know what it is, but they know it's weird |
15:56 | <Zimsky> | and someone gets to play around with the hosts now |
15:56 | <Ikaros> | AlexMax nah, lol. It's what Zimsky just said, tbh |
15:58 | <Zimsky> | pay me no mind, Ikaros |
15:58 | <Ikaros> | ...and THAT came back to bite me in the ass. >.> |
15:58 | <Zimsky> | what else did you expect? |
15:59 | <Ikaros> | Nothing at all, I suppose |
15:59 | <Zimsky> | mostly depends if there's an opportunity while I still remember it |
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16:26 | <relidy> | I ran a clone (ATL -> ATL) last night at ~15MB/s. Took 35 minutes for a 30GB disk image. Another Linode cloned the same size disk at 102MB/s at the same time (different hosts). |
16:29 | <Zimsky> | el bizzare |
16:29 | <Zimsky> | le* |
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16:37 | <Ikaros> | Mm. Seems I got the break in the rain I needed. I'm hungry. I want convenience store hot dog. Namely: 7-Eleven Big Bite. brb |
16:39 | <Peng_> | I've been thinking about resizing a node in Atlanta recently... |
16:53 | <Shentino> | Being a chiropractor is backbreaking work |
16:54 | <relidy> | !point Shentino |
16:54 | <linbot> | relidy: Point given to shentino. (1) |
16:57 | <AlexMax> | relidy: Different host as in different DC? Or different hosting company? |
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16:58 | <relidy> | Different VM host in the Linode Atlanta DC. |
16:58 | <AlexMax> | ..... |
16:58 | <AlexMax> | I hope to hell I didn't get moved to another bad host |
17:00 | <AlexMax> | something is rotten here |
17:00 | <Peng_> | It's probably really unlikey |
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17:01 | <relidy> | I was just moving things around after rebuilding the machine (to keep IPs, I just clone the new machine over top of the old one). I don't know which end was the bottleneck, if indeed that was the problem, but thankfully my network needs are really low on that server. |
17:08 | <linbot> | New news from forum: General Discussion • MySQL not running <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15985&p=76254#p76254> |
17:16 | <Zimsky> | maybe linode hates you? |
17:28 | <AlexMax> | well, hopefully, Linode figures out what exactly is going on - it's good to know that I'm not the only one affected |
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18:04 | <SunSparc> | Anyone else seeing network issues from Linode boxes to AWS S3? |
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18:06 | <Peng_> | I'm good |
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18:11 | <AlexMax> | SunSparc: What DC? |
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18:38 | <SunSparc> | Peng_: Thanks |
18:38 | <SunSparc> | AlexMax: Dallas |
18:39 | <Peng_> | I didn't check Dallas :D |
18:39 | <SunSparc> | Peng_: Ok :) |
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19:10 | <tafa2> | i hate how slow github downloads are |
19:10 | <tafa2> | downlading a release to my linode |
19:10 | <tafa2> | and im getting 115KB/s |
19:10 | <SunSparc> | I hate how slow S3 downloads are. :( |
19:10 | <tafa2> | github-production-release-asset-2e65be.s3.amazonaws.co |
19:11 | <tafa2> | oh shit SunSparc I didn't realise they used s3 |
19:11 | <SunSparc> | Boom! Might be related to the problem I am having. |
19:12 | <SunSparc> | Good catch. |
19:12 | * | SunSparc is out... |
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19:22 | <Peng_> | Needs more CDN? |
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19:49 | <linbot> | New news from forum: General Discussion • MySQL not running <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15985&p=76255#p76255> |
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20:41 | <linbot> | New news from forum: General Discussion • MySQL not running <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15985&p=76256#p76256> |
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22:19 | <Eugene> | !itvends |
22:19 | <linbot> | It vends! a banana |
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22:23 | <waltman> | Eugene: Are you Linodin' today? |
22:24 | <HoopyCat> | waltman: 03:39 < Eugene> Every day I'm Linodin' |
22:24 | <waltman> | HoopyCat: Thanks. Good to know! |
22:25 | <Eugene> | I was up late, so not during this sleep cycle. But I'm counting that one. |
22:25 | <Eugene> | Per "local calendar date" rules |
22:26 | <waltman> | Works for me. |
22:27 | <Eugene> | The scientist in me wonders what would happen if I stopped Linodin' for a few days. But my duty compels me to Linode. |
22:27 | <waltman> | There are some things mere mortals were not meant to know. |
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22:31 | <linbot> | New news from forum: General Discussion • MySQL not running <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15985&p=76258#p76258> |
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22:40 | <HoopyCat> | every day i'm procrastinatin' |
22:41 | <Peng_> | join the club |
22:41 | <Peng_> | later sometime |
22:44 | <HoopyCat> | turns out, fwiw, that 90% of things can just kinda be ignored and everything's fine |
22:44 | <HoopyCat> | actually tho that reminds me that i really should check my car insurance |
22:47 | <HoopyCat> | (update: yep, paid in full) |
22:49 | <Peng_> | Excellent! The oil will probably be fine another 500 miles though |
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23:19 | <Zimsky> | car insurance is a racket |
23:28 | * | dcraig gets rear ended by HoopyCat |
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23:42 | <mr_su> | ping www.reloadpage.org " ... 64 bytes from li218-119.members.linode.com (173.255.208.119): icmp_seq=1 ttl=51 time=159 ms " ==> How can i remove the "li218-119.members.linode.com", only display ip. |
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23:44 | <nate> | change the Reverse DNS in your linode manager for that linode? You can customize that. If you're trying to hide the fact it's a linode though, you really can't, the IP info itself will disclose it |
23:48 | <Zimsky> | `ping -n www.reloadpage.org` |
23:49 | <Zimsky> | -n specifies to not do any reverse dns lookups |
23:49 | <Zimsky> | or something like that |
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