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| 00:11 | <madman587587> | To clone a linode to another linode, It still retains fully qualified domain name? |
| 00:13 | <Zimsky> | the uh, domain name doesn't really have anything to do with the server |
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| 00:13 | <Zimsky> | it'll retain the hostname you set in /etc/hostname or wherever, but that's local to the server |
| 00:13 | <net> | hi |
| 00:13 | <net> | hi |
| 00:14 | <Zimsky> | hello |
| 00:14 | <Zimsky> | hello |
| 00:14 | <net> | are u the owner of linode |
| 00:15 | <Zimsky> | as amusing as that would be, no |
| 00:15 | <net> | ok |
| 00:15 | <net> | have u brought one and dose it allow ddos |
| 00:15 | <Zimsky> | I might have, but I'm pretty sure linode doesn't allow you to ddos things |
| 00:15 | <Zimsky> | I could be wrong though |
| 00:16 | <net> | ok |
| 00:16 | <Zimsky> | if you're asking about whether they can handle being ddosed, they don't |
| 00:16 | <Zimsky> | they just nullroute the ip of your server |
| 00:17 | <madman587587> | go find a dodgy torrent/seedbox server that you can ddos |
| 00:18 | <nate> | lol asking in a public IRC channel about allowing DDoS |
| 00:18 | <nate> | that's how you end up on lists |
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| 00:18 | <Zimsky> | yes it's a terrible crime |
| 00:18 | <net> | whats soo bad about asking if they alow ddos kid |
| 00:19 | <madman587587> | I think they are smart enough to get a notification that the server is been used for ddos attach and shut your service down, basically just read the TOS. |
| 00:19 | <Zimsky> | you should see the amount of government expenditure for tracking ddosers |
| 00:19 | <Zimsky> | it's bigger than the american military budget! |
| 00:20 | <net> | lmaooo iv been ddosing since 3 years now and im still here |
| 00:20 | <Zimsky> | aw slick bro |
| 00:21 | <madman587587> | lies |
| 00:21 | <net> | i have been |
| 00:22 | <net> | i have my own irc net and also telnet bud so how can i be lieing when iv been ddosing over 3 years hmmmm? |
| 00:22 | <Zimsky> | ^ |
| 00:23 | <madman587587> | military budget is 598mill. total usa budget 1.11 trill |
| 00:23 | <net> | idc about the gay ass military |
| 00:23 | <madman587587> | can you get past cloudflare |
| 00:25 | <Zimsky> | only if you disable tree caches |
| 00:25 | <nate> | lol, "kid" |
| 00:25 | <Zimsky> | otherwise you hit memory errors |
| 00:26 | <net> | lmaooooooo |
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| 00:28 | <net> | so madman kid |
| 00:30 | <nate> | So? I think a better so would be, so how about you finish elementary school so you don't type like a infirm 8 year old dropout, then people might be more inclined to believe you when you try to make silly claims, -maybe- :P |
| 00:31 | <nate> | (also +1 on thinking running your own IRC network is somehow something to be proud of...?) |
| 00:31 | <nate> | (not being sarcastic either, not at all, nope) |
| 00:31 | <Peng_> | net: http://cimg2.163.com/culture/200701/25/08.jpg |
| 00:31 | <Zimsky> | nate: do you want a gold star |
| 00:33 | <nate> | Zimsky: We all know your gold stars are really just gold plated aluminum, get outta' here with that cheap stuff |
| 00:33 | <Zimsky> | what's aluminum? |
| 00:35 | <Zimsky> | aluminium is only fractionally less electrically conductive than gold |
| 00:36 | <nate> | it's also one of the cheapest common metals at price per lb, thus cheap stuff :P |
| 00:36 | <Zimsky> | but it has terrible solderability and it develops an oxide layer |
| 00:37 | <Peng_> | But if you remove the oxide layer well enough you can set it on fire right |
| 00:38 | <Zimsky> | combined with an oxidiser, sure |
| 00:38 | <Zimsky> | then you've got thermite |
| 00:38 | <dwfreed> | ...which will bring the oxide layer right back |
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| 00:45 | <Zimsky> | not for long |
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| 00:51 | <net> | lo |
| 00:51 | <net> | yo |
| 00:52 | <Zimsky> | 😎 |
| 00:56 | <linbot> | New news from forum: Linux Networking • Linode Network In & Out Confusion <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=16067&p=76363#p76363> |
| 00:57 | <net> | hi |
| 01:01 | <net> | i like porn |
| 01:04 | <nagchampa> | if you're not hosting your own zonefile, is there anything particularly wrong with having your zonefile host sign and hold the private keys for signing your dnssec records? |
| 01:05 | <Zimsky> | it's the same as having your private keys for anything on any hosted service |
| 01:06 | <nagchampa> | that's kind of what i figured |
| 01:06 | <grawity> | one more point of compromise, but it depends on what threats you're trying to protect against |
| 01:06 | <nagchampa> | i mean it comes down to how much i trust the zonefile host |
| 01:06 | <nagchampa> | just as linode can access my tls private keys easy enough if they wanted to |
| 01:06 | <Zimsky> | exactly |
| 01:06 | <nagchampa> | i prefer to host different points of my infrastructure with different services, so I wouldn't lose all at once in the case of a compromise |
| 01:07 | <nagchampa> | 1984hosting in iceland provides free zonefile hosting that supports dnssec, you just have to put the DS records on your registrars systems |
| 01:08 | <grawity> | as long as you still own the domain (like in whois records) |
| 01:08 | <Zimsky> | they say don't keep all your eggs in one basket, but if you put them in 4 different baskets, three of those baskets could be really easy to get into and arguably less secure than one really really good basket |
| 01:08 | <nagchampa> | well yeah, you need to own your domain to set that up |
| 01:09 | <grawity> | because I've seen "shared hosting" providers which sell you a domain+hosting package, register a domain for you...under their own account, and transferring it away is a *major* pain in the ass |
| 01:09 | <nagchampa> | grawity: i stay far away from those |
| 01:09 | <nagchampa> | i'm helping an organisation take more control over their resources and might be dealing with that next month |
| 01:11 | <nagchampa> | Zimsky: thankfully i have a free account with gsuite for hosting my email i use for admin accounts, which is probably one of the most secure options |
| 01:11 | <Peng_> | You don't have to use DNSSEC |
| 01:12 | <nagchampa> | Peng_: no, but it's a good thing to set up if you trust the zonefile host |
| 01:15 | <Peng_> | Mnay disagree :D |
| 01:15 | <nagchampa> | i don't think i'll set up TLSA records though, because it would be another manual update i'd have to do each time my certificates are updated |
| 01:15 | <Peng_> | Many people do too |
| 01:15 | <nagchampa> | Peng_: i'd be interested in reading some dissenting views |
| 01:17 | <nagchampa> | this is an interesting read https://blog.cloudflare.com/dnssec-complexities-and-considerations/ |
| 01:18 | <nagchampa> | although anyone relying on subdomains being private are probably doing something wrong |
| 01:22 | <Peng_> | https://sockpuppet.org/blog/2015/01/15/against-dnssec/ is the classic one |
| 01:26 | <nagchampa> | thanks |
| 01:33 | <grawity> | nagchampa: *each time your keypairs are updated, which is not necessarily the same, or each time your CA is switched, which is rare |
| 01:36 | <Peng_> | Or you can automate it. |
| 01:41 | <grawity> | Peng_: you don't have to use TLSA |
| 01:45 | <Peng_> | Touche! |
| 02:42 | <madman587587> | its got to do with DNS? |
| 02:46 | <Peng_> | Does what? |
| 03:12 | <Zimsky> | it |
| 03:47 | <linbot> | New news from forum: Performance and Tuning • High % CPU Stealing <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15913&p=76364#p76364> |
| 03:49 | <Peng_> | The steal % in that graph looks like blood is pouring down from above |
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| 04:11 | <dwfreed> | Peng_: or jam |
| 04:12 | <Zimsky> | jam is thicker than blood |
| 04:14 | <dwfreed> | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcArnepkhv0 |
| 04:23 | <Woet> | yea thats definitely more than enough CPU steal alright |
| 04:49 | <madman587587> | anyone have good stats on cpanel, required resources per user? |
| 04:50 | <Woet> | madman587587: entirely depends on the user. |
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| 09:46 | <PK> | hello |
| 09:46 | <smallclone> | hi, feel free to ask your question |
| 09:47 | <PK> | I want a 4gb, 2 core and 150-100GB dissk spcase |
| 09:47 | <smallclone> | they do not offer custom plans |
| 09:47 | <PK> | server, on which I need to run tomcat/java/php/mysql |
| 09:47 | <PK> | ohhh.. |
| 09:47 | <smallclone> | you can get their 4GB plan and then block storage, if you're in newark or fremont or, uh, somewhere else |
| 09:47 | <smallclone> | i forget where |
| 09:48 | <@bmartin> | newark fremont, dallas |
| 09:48 | <PK> | I am from India (Asia) |
| 09:48 | <smallclone> | ^ there ya go |
| 09:48 | <PK> | thank you.. |
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| 12:19 | <Eugene> | Every day I'm Linodin' |
| 12:19 | <Zimsky> | you weren't yesterday |
| 12:20 | <Zimsky> | !towel Eugene |
| 12:20 | <linbot> | Zimsky: Point taken from eugene! (55) |
| 12:20 | <Eugene> | I was busy being a towel |
| 12:21 | <Zimsky> | then it should be "Every day I'm Linodin' (except some days upon which I am a towel" |
| 12:21 | <Zimsky> | +closing parentheses |
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| 14:19 | <linbot> | New news from forum: /dev/random • Trying to run the GNU/Hurd on a linode <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=16066&p=76365#p76365> |
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| 14:55 | <king> | Hello |
| 14:55 | <millisa> | hi |
| 14:55 | <king> | how many websites can i host in any plan? |
| 14:56 | <smallclone> | there is not a limit |
| 14:56 | <smallclone> | a Linode is a linux vps, you can do whatever a linux machine can do |
| 14:56 | <smallclone> | provided that you're capable of configuring it yourself |
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| 15:14 | <Woet> | king: do you know what Linode sells? |
| 15:15 | <king> | yes |
| 15:16 | <Woet> | king: so why are you asking how many websites you can host? |
| 15:17 | <king> | woet i am new here |
| 15:18 | <Woet> | king: okay, but if you know Linode sells unmanaged Linux VPSes, you know that there's no plan limit. |
| 15:19 | <linbot> | New news from forum: /dev/random • Trying to run the GNU/Hurd on a linode <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=16066&p=76366#p76366> |
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| 15:46 | <@mcintosh> | Woet: be nice |
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| 15:48 | <Woet> | mcintosh: I was and am. |
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| 16:50 | <Suresh_K_Gupta> | Hi |
| 16:50 | <Woet> | Hi |
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| 16:50 | <Suresh_K_Gupta> | We have application deployed on unix servers hosted on Linode |
| 16:50 | <Woet> | I'm happy to hear that. |
| 16:50 | <Suresh_K_Gupta> | We are trying to get ISO 27001 certification for the application |
| 16:51 | <Woet> | That's good to know. |
| 16:51 | <Suresh_K_Gupta> | It seems to obtain that we need to make sure Linode also meets ISMS compliance |
| 16:52 | <Suresh_K_Gupta> | Do you have any kind of compliance certification that you can share with us |
| 16:52 | <smallclone> | Suresh_K_Gupta: you should open a ticket, and specify the data center |
| 16:52 | * | nate does not recall ISO27001 requiring that, thought it was largely an on-system checklist for the most part |
| 16:52 | <Woet> | "ISMS compliance" doesn't make much sense |
| 16:52 | <smallclone> | Linode can give you certification for the data center itself, the of the application is obviously up to you |
| 16:53 | <nate> | Woet: Magic word like "Cloud Computing" |
| 16:53 | <nate> | :P |
| 16:55 | <thurin> | I'm sure the blockchain solves all that |
| 16:56 | <Woet> | i'm machine learning right now |
| 16:59 | <Suresh_K_Gupta> | sure. thank you. |
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| 18:04 | <tafa2> | don't suppose anyone does remote IT support? (need a price guage) |
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| 18:29 | <Eugene> | tafa2 - yup, that's my dayjob |
| 18:29 | <tafa2> | sick |
| 18:30 | <tafa2> | You in the US? |
| 18:30 | <Eugene> | Yessir, Seattle. |
| 18:30 | <tafa2> | pm ok? |
| 18:30 | <Eugene> | Totally |
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| 19:07 | <FluffyFoxeh> | what's your night job Eugene? |
| 19:07 | <FluffyFoxeh> | Linodin'? |
| 19:08 | <Eugene> | No, I wouldn't interview there based upon the feedback I have heard from multiple (former) employees about working conditions & pay rates. |
| 19:08 | <Eugene> | Also, fuck new jersey |
| 19:09 | <FluffyFoxeh> | but you say that you're Linodin' every day |
| 19:09 | <Eugene> | !dig kashpureff.org |
| 19:09 | <linbot> | Eugene: That URL appears to have no HTML title. |
| 19:09 | <Eugene> | !a kashpureff.org |
| 19:09 | <Eugene> | !dns a kashpureff.org |
| 19:09 | <linbot> | Eugene: (dns <host|ip>) -- Returns the ip of <host> or the reverse DNS hostname of <ip>. |
| 19:09 | <Eugene> | FUck you |
| 19:09 | <FluffyFoxeh> | !dns kashpureff.org |
| 19:09 | <linbot> | FluffyFoxeh: 173.230.158.85 |
| 19:09 | <FluffyFoxeh> | dats a linode |
| 19:10 | * | FluffyFoxeh linodes |
| 19:12 | <Peng_> | !dns6 kashpureff.org |
| 19:12 | <linbot> | Peng_: 2600:3c01::14:7116, 173.230.158.85 |
| 19:13 | <Peng_> | Eugene: What about Pennsylvania |
| 19:29 | <@bhanks> | yeah its philly now Eugene |
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| 19:37 | <Eugene> | The office is. LINODE LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY is still registered as a NJ corporation |
| 19:38 | <Eugene> | And honestly? Pennsylvania sucks even worse. |
| 19:38 | <smallclone> | Philly is definitely better than SJ |
| 19:39 | <smallclone> | and while it's visually beautiful and a great place to work in tech, Seattle is basically turning into a much more dreary SF, including the homelessness problem |
| 19:41 | <smallclone> | that said i would consider moving there after this last east coast winter |
| 19:41 | <Peng_> | also you're under the constant gaze of the Eye of Sauron |
| 19:41 | <Eugene> | We have no income tax in Washington :v |
| 19:43 | <smallclone> | i think i would miss being able to get good pizza |
| 19:43 | <smallclone> | but i am paying a lot for that pizza |
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| 19:46 | <HoopyCat> | seattle is definitely growing on me |
| 19:49 | <Eugene> | I dislike the City of Seattle for various social issues. I actually live out on Vashon Island, like some sort of UNIX hippie neckbeard |
| 19:50 | <HoopyCat> | reasonable ^^ |
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| 20:00 | <zifnab> | seattle does not have good pizza |
| 20:01 | <Eugene> | Goddamned pizza hipsters |
| 20:01 | <Eugene> | Learn to make your own pies if you're so picky, jeeze |
| 20:02 | <Eugene> | Its a pizza. Bread, sauce, cheese, accessories. Bake until ready. Not hard. |
| 20:03 | <dwfreed> | I miss Napoli's |
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| 20:36 | <Peng_> | Eugene: Bagel, ketchup, slice of cheddar from the convenience store... |
| 20:39 | <dwfreed> | ...and now I want a bacon death bagel |
| 20:42 | <Eugene> | Pics |
| 20:44 | <dwfreed> | of what? the bacon death bagel? |
| 20:45 | <Eugene> | Yes |
| 20:45 | <dwfreed> | unfortunately I haven't made one in a while, and I don't have the stuff to make one now; I can give you the recipe, though |
| 20:48 | <dwfreed> | fry bacon (2 or 3 strips, usually, per sandwich); remove bacon from pan, leave grease; slice bagel, place face down in pan, cook to preferred toastedness; place bacon on bagel, cover with preferred amount of shredded cheese (mozzarella is really good), make sandwich |
| 20:49 | * | Eugene scribbles |
| 20:49 | <dwfreed> | if you have a decent sized pan, you can make 2 at once |
| 20:50 | <dwfreed> | the toasting the bagel in the bacon grease is what makes it so much better than just a bacon and cheese bagel (and is how it earns the name "death bagel" |
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| 23:27 | <Eugene> | https://photos.app.goo.gl/RMCcneOVKzYcechE3 |
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