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| 03:00 | <Eugene> | Every day I'm Linodin' |
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| 03:00 | <FB> | Hi |
| 03:00 | <millisa> | Greetings |
| 03:00 | <FB> | How does Linode calcute Traffic? |
| 03:01 | <FB> | In my use case i need traffic and the VPS only for some days |
| 03:01 | <millisa> | a deployed vps comes with a preallocated amount of transfer quota. |
| 03:01 | <millisa> | the amount you have is prorated until the end of the month |
| 03:07 | <FB> | i so cant use 100-0GB Traffic a day on Linode 8GB Plan without extra charge ? |
| 03:08 | <Peng_> | https://www.linode.com/pricing You can do 4 TB of outbound transfer per month. |
| 03:08 | <Peng_> | Divided by 28-31 days... |
| 03:10 | <Zimsky> | !unpoint Eugene |
| 03:10 | <linbot> | Zimsky: Point taken from eugene! (56) |
| 03:22 | <linbot> | New news from forum: Sales Questions and Answers • Achieve Unprecedented Business Growth With Email List <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=16103&p=76438#p76438> |
| 03:30 | <JamesTK> | !unpoint Eugene |
| 03:30 | <linbot> | JamesTK: Point taken from eugene! (55) |
| 03:56 | <diveyez> | Southern california is awesome |
| 03:57 | <@jchun> | Agreed! |
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| 04:02 | <Woet> | !unpoint Eugene |
| 04:02 | <linbot> | Woet: Point taken from eugene! (54) |
| 04:03 | <Woet> | !point Zimsky |
| 04:03 | <linbot> | Woet: Point given to zimsky. (15) (Biggest fan: woet, total: 14) |
| 04:03 | <Woet> | !point JamesTK |
| 04:03 | <linbot> | Woet: Point given to jamestk. (1) |
| 04:03 | <JamesTK> | :D |
| 04:03 | <JamesTK> | Ha, Woet's your biggest fan, Zimsky |
| 04:04 | <Woet> | fake news |
| 04:04 | <Zimsky> | casa marbleu |
| 04:05 | <Zimsky> | casu* |
| 04:06 | <Woet> | linbot just has an internal counter, it doesnt actually check the points currently assigned |
| 04:06 | <Woet> | aka it needs more blockchain technology |
| 04:06 | <Zimsky> | oh you're just having a laugh |
| 04:07 | <Woet> | i don't laugh. |
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| 04:07 | <Zimsky> | I know |
| 04:08 | <Zimsky> | laughing is not the same as having a laugh |
| 04:23 | <flugsio1> | I have 170 linodes which needs migration, at 50 different times between 2018-04-27 and 2018-05-11 (which is hard to oversee/or inform each customers about). Will it be possible to start these manually at some later date, or is each startdate locked? |
| 04:24 | <dwfreed> | if they're in a migration queue, you should be able to start them early |
| 04:24 | <dwfreed> | but this sounds like reboots, not migrations |
| 04:26 | <dwfreed> | if I'm right about it being reboots, the ticket does say "The above listed maintenance windows cannot be altered, postponed, or rescheduled." |
| 04:38 | <flugsio1> | Ah yes, these are reboots and not migrations. It also says "once we’ve communicated your migration queue times to you, you’ll be able to manually start your migrations by clicking the “Migrate NOW”" |
| 04:38 | <flugsio1> | I'm not sure what they mean by migration queue time, maybe they mean the queue that is created at the scheduled time. |
| 04:39 | <Peng_> | That sounds like a mistake in the message. You get migrated *or* rebooted, not both. |
| 04:40 | <diveyez> | Mercedes AMG suv keys given to me at arrival, I refused it |
| 04:40 | <diveyez> | I am buying a toyota next week |
| 04:40 | <diveyez> | That mercedes is ridiculous |
| 04:40 | <Peng_> | Linode hasn't given me a Mercedes. :( |
| 04:40 | <flugsio1> | Ok, i think i get the message now. I can only manually press migrate now for the 3 machines I have to migrate after 30 april. Thanks for helping me read properly :) |
| 04:41 | <diveyez> | I dont work for linode |
| 04:41 | <diveyez> | I was hired as an intern student with full benefits on everything, and good pay |
| 04:41 | <diveyez> | Even a condo coming |
| 04:42 | <diveyez> | As I said, southern california is awesome, I come from a poor spot in Baltimore |
| 04:42 | <diveyez> | Only thing is, I have to keep a 3.5 gpa |
| 04:42 | <diveyez> | I have 5 jobs now, I had my own company as my only income for a year |
| 04:42 | <diveyez> | Its nice to know someone else is working to make sure I have money for once =) |
| 04:43 | <Zimsky> | what? |
| 04:43 | <diveyez> | Some dell power series rack mount servers with some e5 chips and ssds are on the way |
| 04:43 | <Zimsky> | k |
| 04:43 | <diveyez> | Got a goooood deal =) |
| 04:43 | <diveyez> | Im just venting off my fun times before bed |
| 04:44 | <diveyez> | Had to setup my terminal tonight so I can work at 8am tomorrow |
| 04:44 | <diveyez> | I used a raspberry pi to make a tunnel, and turned it into a hotspot. Awesome |
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| 04:59 | <@bhanks> | what is even happening |
| 05:00 | <@gjjansen> | Linode and Linode-based accessories? |
| 05:00 | <diveyez> | LOL |
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| 05:03 | <diveyez> | We should make a linodin music video, everyday im linodin |
| 05:04 | <Peng_> | singing from the roof of a badly parked Mercedes |
| 05:09 | <@bhanks> | whose car though? diveyez didnt take the mercedes. |
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| 05:10 | <Peng_> | can you rent a car from Amazon with drones yet? |
| 05:13 | <@gjjansen> | Eugene would need to show up for the filming. |
| 05:13 | <@gjjansen> | Amazon did just start deliveries in their car, Peng_ |
| 05:15 | <@gjjansen> | Maybe they'll deliver a car to my car? |
| 05:16 | <Peng_> | One of the cars would have to be a lot bigger than the other |
| 05:16 | <Peng_> | [insert Knight Rider GIF] |
| 05:24 | <diveyez> | I can borrow that thing if I need to |
| 05:24 | <diveyez> | lol |
| 05:25 | <diveyez> | I was opening a box, and I sliced my finger |
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| 05:54 | <@jchun> | gjjansen they already deliver my boxes in boxes. doesn't seem like a huge leap. |
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| 06:04 | <Woet> | diveyez has some medical condition where he has to brag every 15 minutes |
| 06:04 | <Woet> | else he'll go into a coma |
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| 06:04 | <Woet> | press F to pay respect |
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| 06:33 | <ennerd> | Are there problems with communicating with S3 from linode? I'm getting very low transfer rate. |
| 06:33 | <ennerd> | around 4KB/s |
| 06:34 | <Peng_> | Yikes |
| 06:34 | <ennerd> | Try this file: https://seriawebcast.s3.amazonaws.com/v1/83474507/images/preview.jpg |
| 06:34 | <ennerd> | It takes <1 second from my computer and other servers outside linode, but ETA 3m 46s currently using wget on a linode. |
| 06:36 | <Peng_> | The Itnernet doesn't usually guarantee that connections between two distant places will be fast |
| 06:37 | <Peng_> | What location is the Linode in? |
| 06:37 | <Peng_> | Is IPv6 faster? :D |
| 06:37 | <Peng_> | Is a traceroute or mtr notably terrible? |
| 06:37 | <Peng_> | How long has it been slow? |
| 06:37 | <Peng_> | In general, consider S3 Transfer Acceleration or CloudFront. :D |
| 06:38 | <ennerd> | It is in Frankfurt, IPv4 |
| 06:38 | <Peng_> | That's far. |
| 06:38 | <Peng_> | 4 KB/s is still awful, but that is far. |
| 06:39 | <ennerd> | My server in Norway is much, much faster. |
| 06:39 | <ennerd> | And it is further away. |
| 06:40 | <ennerd> | Frankfurt to Ireland is not far. |
| 06:40 | <Peng_> | Oh, that S3 bucket isn't in us-east-1? |
| 06:40 | <ennerd> | No, Ireland. |
| 06:40 | <Peng_> | Oh |
| 06:41 | <Peng_> | I assumed from the endpoint |
| 06:41 | <Peng_> | That's definitely not very far! |
| 06:41 | <ennerd> | ping to bucket is around 21.5 ms |
| 06:41 | <ennerd> | I tried rebooting the server, but no change. |
| 06:42 | <Peng_> | A traceroute or mtr might be interesting. (Though Amazon's networks are not very comprehensible.) |
| 06:42 | <Peng_> | IPv6 might, by chance, be working better |
| 06:42 | <ennerd> | I did a tracerout - but after hop 13 it says only * * *. |
| 06:43 | <ennerd> | decix.amazon.com is hop number 3 at 1.8 ms |
| 06:43 | <linbot> | New news from forum: General Discussion • Ubuntu 12.04 VPN setup <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=10170&p=76439#p76439> |
| 06:48 | <ennerd> | Peng_: Thanks, it appears that using IPv6 solved the problem. bucketname.s3.dualstack.eu-west-1.amazonaws.com |
| 06:50 | <Peng_> | If you have any EC2 instances in eu-west-1, an mtr or traceroute from AWS to Linode might be interesting (and incomprehensible). |
| 06:51 | <Peng_> | You could file tickets with Amazon and Linode, but it could be an issue with some other ISP, and people might be fixing it already anyway, |
| 06:51 | <ennerd> | Peng_: I don't. I have one in AWS Frankfurt. |
| 06:51 | <ennerd> | Peng_: I did file a support ticket :) |
| 06:51 | <Peng_> | wait don't Amazon and Linode peer in some locations |
| 06:52 | <ennerd> | Peng_: But this ipv6 solved my immediate problem, which is great. |
| 06:52 | <ennerd> | cd |
| 06:52 | <Peng_> | :) |
| 06:52 | <ennerd> | oops. :) cd went into the wrong window haha |
| 06:53 | <Peng_> | It's just luck -- one day maybe IPv6 will have issues and IPv4 will be working fine |
| 06:53 | <@bhanks> | lucky it was just cd lol ennerd |
| 06:54 | <ennerd> | Peng_: Yes. I added some logic to my website earlier today so that if it is slow in the future, it will still work - although with reduced performance. |
| 06:54 | <ennerd> | bhanks: Yes :D |
| 06:55 | <Cromulent> | has anyone here tried out the OpenSSH client and server that comes bundled with Windows 10? |
| 06:55 | <ennerd> | Peng_: Basically, my clients would fetch images directly from S3 - whenever my linodes that cache the images is experiencing slowness. |
| 06:56 | <Cromulent> | it is an optional feature |
| 07:03 | <@jchun> | Cromulent: It took me a while to figure out how to even get it to work. I did get it working, but I don't remember how and it was definitely not worth the effort... Getting that Ubuntu Container thing that's built-in was fairly easy to use though. |
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| 07:05 | <Cromulent> | yeah I used the Ubuntu container as well - only just found out that there is an actual implementation built in so you don't need the whole of the ubuntu userland tools |
| 07:09 | <Cromulent> | I was thinking of paying for a VPN from someone but if I can set my Linode OpenSSH server up as a VPN server then I can just use the Windows 10 OpenSSH client to connect and tunneling everything through to my Linode |
| 07:11 | <dwfreed> | can the native openssh do tun tunneling? |
| 07:11 | <dwfreed> | (ssh -D and tun are not equivalent) |
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| 07:18 | <Abdullrhman> | Hello |
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| 07:19 | <Abdullrhman> | Hi |
| 07:19 | <Abdullrhman> | anybody here? |
| 07:19 | <Cromulent> | yep |
| 07:19 | <Abdullrhman> | Hello |
| 07:19 | <Cromulent> | hi |
| 07:20 | <Abdullrhman> | I would like to ask if Odoo app is pre-installed on the hosting servers that you provide or not |
| 07:20 | <Abdullrhman> | is it? |
| 07:20 | <Cromulent> | Linode servers are unmanaged so you need to install everything you want on them |
| 07:20 | <Cromulent> | or you could pay Linode to do it for you |
| 07:21 | <Cromulent> | you just get a basic Linux server all the config is down to you |
| 07:21 | <Abdullrhman> | How much it will cost me per month if I request to installed Odoo app on the server |
| 07:21 | <Abdullrhman> | ? |
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| 07:30 | <Woet> | cya |
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| 07:48 | <milon> | can i use lindoe server for email marketing purpose? |
| 07:49 | <dzho> | if you do it right |
| 07:50 | <milon> | average 1 lac email will deliver everyday |
| 07:51 | <dzho> | lac, crore, it doesn't matter ... it's whether you do it right. |
| 07:51 | <@sjacobs> | have the recipient's opted into your emails? do you verify the email they provide to receive marketing emails is correct? |
| 07:53 | <dwfreed> | the latter one is often referred to as "double opt-in," meaning that upon opt-in, you send them an email confirming that, and they must click a link in the email to do so, and you do *not* send them any more emails until they do |
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| 07:53 | <milon> | no but i will provide a link to easily unsubscribe |
| 07:53 | <dwfreed> | that's not acceptable |
| 07:53 | <@sjacobs> | no to both answers? that's a no-no. even a no to only the second is questionable. |
| 07:53 | <dwfreed> | ^ |
| 07:54 | <dwfreed> | sjacobs: I've actually gotten to send somebody packing for not doing double opt-in |
| 07:55 | <dwfreed> | because they lied to us and said they implemented it, and i could show that they didn't |
| 07:55 | <Woet> | lol |
| 07:55 | <Woet> | milon: why would you send emails if the people never subscribed to them? |
| 07:57 | <milon> | marketing purpose |
| 07:57 | <dwfreed> | aka spamming |
| 07:57 | <dzho> | unsolicited bulk email, if you're fancy |
| 07:58 | <dzho> | (some people prefer the term "unsolicited commercial email" but that hangs up on "what does 'commercial' mean, anyway?" so I prefer the broader definition) |
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| 07:59 | <Woet> | milon: what are you selling? |
| 07:59 | <dzho> | dreams |
| 07:59 | <Peng_> | Woet: https://www.getmagicbullet.com/ |
| 08:00 | <Woet> | what is that girl doing there |
| 08:00 | <Woet> | i want the tf2 scout guy |
| 08:00 | <ericoc> | “v14g4ra” |
| 08:00 | <milon> | how the server detect the recepient give permission or not? |
| 08:00 | <Woet> | or did he sell something else |
| 08:00 | <dzho> | ericoc: banned |
| 08:00 | <Woet> | slap chop |
| 08:00 | <Woet> | that one |
| 08:01 | <Woet> | milon: why does it even matter? |
| 08:01 | <Woet> | milon: stop sending emails to people who didnt ask for them |
| 08:01 | <milon> | woet: but how the server detect the recepient give permission or not? |
| 08:01 | <Woet> | milon: why does it even matter? |
| 08:01 | <dzho> | milon: you're asking good questions, now. |
| 08:02 | <milon> | dzho: can you exlain the answer? |
| 08:02 | <Woet> | milon: can you explain why it matters? |
| 08:02 | <dwfreed> | you only put people in your mailing list that have explicitly given you permission to mail them |
| 08:03 | <Woet> | milon: why are you sending people emails without their permission? |
| 08:03 | <milon> | Woet: they can be interested after reading the offer |
| 08:04 | <@sjacobs> | that is spam. |
| 08:04 | <Woet> | milon: you're the reason people install spamfilters |
| 08:04 | <dzho> | milon: alas, the answer approaches "how to run your own mail server" and ... other things, and is really too much for IRC, and for me, now. The linode documentation has some good starters. The double opt-in example that springs to my mind that is readily available and was once widely used is that of the GNU Mailman subscription process. |
| 08:05 | <dzho> | if you ever decide to go legit, you could do worse at starting there. |
| 08:05 | <dwfreed> | milon: if they were interested they would have asked for the offer in the first place |
| 08:05 | <dzho> | ^^^ but yeah, what they said. |
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| 08:07 | <ericoc> | does checking the box at the bottom of a "complete order" screen count as opting in proper? and what if the check box defaults to checked? |
| 08:08 | <ericoc> | that seems to be the super most common thing i see, then i get an email a week later, like "zomg do we have deals for you or what!!!" and i unsubscribe |
| 08:08 | <DanielNM> | zonks |
| 08:14 | <dwfreed> | ericoc: yeah, probably |
| 08:14 | <ericoc> | i mean, unsolicited email in general is unwelcome :/ just not doing that at all would be a+ |
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| 08:51 | <Zimsky> | !unpoint diveyez |
| 08:51 | <linbot> | Zimsky: Point taken from diveyez! (-2) |
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| 09:02 | <Woet> | ericoc: thats not unsolicited tho |
| 09:02 | <Woet> | thats literally solicited |
| 09:03 | <ericoc> | i think i just hate e-mail in general |
| 09:03 | <ericoc> | like all of it |
| 09:04 | <Zimsky> | !point ericoc |
| 09:04 | <linbot> | Zimsky: Point given to ericoc. (2) |
| 09:04 | <Peng_> | !point IPv6 |
| 09:04 | <linbot> | Peng_: Point given to ipv6. (1) |
| 09:04 | <ericoc> | also paper mail/letters, and push notifications, and instant/text/facebook/linkedin/instagram/twitter/etc. messages... maybe i'd prefer to just not be contacted at all or only have IRC communication |
| 09:05 | <Zimsky> | !unpoint ipv6 |
| 09:05 | <linbot> | Zimsky: Point taken from ipv6! (0) |
| 09:05 | <ericoc> | !point ipv6 |
| 09:05 | <linbot> | ericoc: Point given to ipv6. (1) |
| 09:05 | <Zimsky> | !unpoint ipv6 |
| 09:05 | <linbot> | Zimsky: Point taken from ipv6! (0) |
| 09:05 | <Zimsky> | round and round the merry-go-round goes |
| 09:05 | <Zimsky> | ipv6 is meh |
| 09:06 | <ericoc> | it's pretty sweet tho |
| 09:06 | <Zimsky> | how? |
| 09:06 | <ericoc> | it's just sexier than v4 |
| 09:06 | <Zimsky> | beside a larger address space, how is it actually better? |
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| 09:07 | * | ericoc waits for Peng_ to defend ipv6 cause he's smarter than me wrt this |
| 09:07 | <Peng_> | I'm really tired |
| 09:07 | <Peng_> | IPv6 is |
| 09:07 | <Peng_> | great |
| 09:07 | <Peng_> | !!! |
| 09:07 | <Zimsky> | it isn't |
| 09:07 | <Zimsky> | it just isn't |
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| 09:10 | <dwfreed> | Zimsky: routing is typically better, due to more peering, and better use of summary routes |
| 09:10 | <Peng_> | and sometimes cryptocurrency thieves forget to hijack IPv6 :D |
| 09:10 | <Zimsky> | I can always rely on you to contradict me |
| 09:11 | <Woet> | cant ever have enough ipv6 |
| 09:11 | <Zimsky> | "due to more peering"; can be done with v4 |
| 09:12 | <ericoc> | you get tons of v6 addresses with linode! |
| 09:13 | <Zimsky> | !point ipv4 |
| 09:13 | <linbot> | Zimsky: Point given to ipv4. (1) |
| 09:13 | <Zimsky> | !point st2+ |
| 09:13 | <linbot> | Zimsky: Point given to st2+. (1) |
| 09:14 | <ericoc> | assuming torrents and streaming don't exist, if you have the option between a bluray (ipv6) or dvd (ipv4) copy of a movie, what do you take? :p |
| 09:14 | <ericoc> | is that a fair analogy |
| 09:14 | <Zimsky> | no |
| 09:15 | <ericoc> | (betamax/vhs is like a token ring dial up network with a acoustic coupler or something in this analogy) |
| 09:19 | <Zimsky> | I have a VHS collection of adult nursery rhymes recorded in triple time |
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| 10:59 | <@jchun> | Zimsky: Are you saying that IPv6 is worse than IPv4? |
| 11:00 | <@jchun> | :O |
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| 11:18 | <Zimsky> | no |
| 11:19 | <Zimsky> | jchun: I am saying it is no better beyond the benefit of a larger address space |
| 11:20 | <@jchun> | larger address space is a pretty big benefit though |
| 11:21 | <Zimsky> | on a global scale, sure |
| 11:21 | <Zimsky> | locally (abstractly), not really |
| 11:23 | <ericoc> | i like my 4954395349593459345934 addresses okay? :) |
| 11:24 | <ericoc> | so what if i only use 3-4 of them |
| 11:24 | <Zimsky> | what weird subnet allocations do you have to only have that number of addresses |
| 11:26 | <ericoc> | i really have no idea how many addresses i have. i just know i have deadbeef.ericoc.com resolving to 2600:3c03:e000:2:dead:beef::1 |
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| 11:27 | <Zimsky> | 2**64 maybe |
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| 11:34 | <linbot> | New news from forum: General Discussion • Disk resize behaviour <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=16104&p=76440#p76440> |
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| 11:44 | <linbot> | New news from forum: General Discussion • Disk resize behaviour <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=16104&p=76442#p76442> |
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| 11:54 | <linbot> | New news from forum: General Discussion • Disk resize behaviour <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=16104&p=76443#p76443> |
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| 11:56 | <FluffyFoxeh> | 2600:3c03:e000:12e::f:100f |
| 11:57 | <FluffyFoxeh> | I typed that from memory. Did I get it right? |
| 11:57 | <FluffyFoxeh> | !dns kitsune.fastquake.com |
| 11:57 | <linbot> | FluffyFoxeh: 104.200.30.38 |
| 11:57 | <FluffyFoxeh> | no linbot the other one |
| 11:57 | <FluffyFoxeh> | !help dns |
| 11:57 | <Zimsky> | !dig |
| 11:57 | <linbot> | FluffyFoxeh: (dns <host|ip>) -- Returns the ip of <host> or the reverse DNS hostname of <ip>. |
| 11:57 | <linbot> | Zimsky: (dig <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "web title http://kovaya.com/dig.cgi?target_host=$1&type=@1". |
| 11:57 | <FluffyFoxeh> | !dig kitsune.fastquake.com |
| 11:57 | <linbot> | FluffyFoxeh: That URL appears to have no HTML title. |
| 11:57 | <Zimsky> | !dig AAAA kitsune.fastquake.com |
| 11:57 | <FluffyFoxeh> | rip |
| 11:57 | <linbot> | Zimsky: That URL appears to have no HTML title. |
| 11:58 | <Zimsky> | ¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿ |
| 11:58 | <Zimsky> | ok |
| 11:58 | <Zimsky> | well kitsune.fastquake.com has IPv6 address 2600:3c03:e000:12e::f:100f |
| 11:59 | <Peng_> | !dns6 kitsune.fastquake.com |
| 11:59 | <linbot> | Peng_: 2600:3c03:e000:12e::f:100f, 2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fe56:c54d, 104.200.30.38 |
| 11:59 | <FluffyFoxeh> | nice |
| 12:00 | <FluffyFoxeh> | I use the former because the other one is based on the MAC address and changes if you move the Linode |
| 12:00 | <FluffyFoxeh> | I discovered that at one point |
| 12:01 | <Zimsky> | I use a paring knife for cheese |
| 12:01 | <Peng_> | What kind of move? |
| 12:01 | <Zimsky> | you press down on the cheese |
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| 12:05 | <FluffyFoxeh> | my mum took all the papers off my desk and put them in the garbage :/ |
| 12:05 | <FluffyFoxeh> | just because it looks like a disorganized pile of papers doesn't mean they're garbage |
| 12:05 | <FluffyFoxeh> | jeez |
| 12:06 | <Zimsky> | why is your mother cleaning your desk? |
| 12:06 | <FluffyFoxeh> | idk |
| 12:06 | <FluffyFoxeh> | I didn't ask her to |
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| 12:07 | <dwfreed> | FluffyFoxeh: MAC address never changes, even if you move hosts or datacenters |
| 12:08 | <FluffyFoxeh> | oh I think maybe what I found was that it couldn't be swapped between linodes |
| 12:08 | <dwfreed> | yeah, that would be it |
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| 12:13 | <FluffyFoxeh> | dwfreed: though I'm surprised it remains across datacentres |
| 12:13 | <FluffyFoxeh> | what is it tied to? |
| 12:13 | <FluffyFoxeh> | is it just randomly generated by the hypervisor? |
| 12:14 | <dwfreed> | it is derived at Linode creation |
| 12:16 | <Peng_> | if you felt a pinch while clicking "add this Linode!", that was the DNA sample being collected |
| 12:16 | <@mcintosh> | !point Peng_ |
| 12:16 | <linbot> | mcintosh: Point given to peng_. (6) |
| 12:16 | <dwfreed> | !point Peng_ |
| 12:16 | <linbot> | dwfreed: Point given to peng_. (7) |
| 12:17 | <Zimsky> | you don't need to pinch someone to do that |
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| 12:50 | <diveyez> | You Woet m8? |
| 12:51 | <diveyez> | Fixing a brother fax scan copier printer is no fun |
| 12:51 | * | Woet pinches Peng_ |
| 12:52 | <diveyez> | I only slept for two hours before the staff for the medical group showed up, im kinda hung over haha |
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| 12:56 | <diveyez> | Cool, earthquake! |
| 12:57 | <Zimsky> | 好 |
| 12:58 | <dwfreed> | 3.4, nothing to write home about |
| 12:58 | <dwfreed> | https://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eventpage/ci37923679#executive |
| 12:58 | <smallclone> | i dunno how people get used to those things |
| 12:59 | <ericoc> | 3.4 is nothing tho |
| 13:00 | <smallclone> | it's enough to rattle tables around and stuff isn't it |
| 13:00 | <smallclone> | scared the hell out of me when i briefly lived in LA |
| 13:01 | <ericoc> | eh, 3.4 indoors, idk if it would rattle much, especially depending on the building's construction? im not an expert at all tho |
| 13:01 | <smallclone> | i'll stick with the east coast where we just have a mysterious small earth quake every couple of years and everyone loses their minds |
| 13:02 | <Peng_> | instead the land is slowly sinking into the sea |
| 13:04 | <smallclone> | philadelphia i think is pretty well set for rising sea levels |
| 13:04 | <smallclone> | where i live will be under water though |
| 13:04 | <Peng_> | :X |
| 13:05 | <smallclone> | i like to imagine they'll build a wall around manhattan and turn it into some kind of fortress for the elites, and brooklyn will turn into a lawless waterworld where people live in camps on the roofs of old rowhomes |
| 13:05 | <smallclone> | should be cool |
| 13:06 | <smallclone> | maybe i can get a rent reduction |
| 13:07 | <Zimsky> | and then the anarchists will break down the wall |
| 13:07 | <Zimsky> | and manhattan will flood |
| 13:07 | <Zimsky> | : ) |
| 13:07 | <smallclone> | i'd watch this movie |
| 13:08 | <Zimsky> | I'd produce this film |
| 13:08 | <Zimsky> | anyone got a spare few million? |
| 13:09 | <ericoc> | smallclone: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082340/ |
| 13:10 | <ericoc> | > Manhattan, now a giant maximum security prison |
| 13:11 | <grawity> | I was reading Manaugh's "Burglar's Guide To The City" and that's not too far off from the truth in some places |
| 13:11 | <Zimsky> | >in 1997 |
| 13:11 | <Zimsky> | lol |
| 13:12 | <Zimsky> | hey it's directed by john carpenter |
| 13:12 | <Zimsky> | neat |
| 13:18 | <ericoc> | it might be on netflix? |
| 13:18 | <ericoc> | i think that's where i saw it |
| 13:18 | <smallclone> | i mean, i love that movie |
| 13:18 | <smallclone> | but |
| 13:18 | <smallclone> | this is different |
| 13:19 | <smallclone> | and by different i mean that it's basically the reverse of that |
| 13:19 | <smallclone> | with reused set pieces from waterworld (1995) |
| 13:19 | <ericoc> | is manhattan not already "some kind of fortress for the elites" |
| 13:20 | <smallclone> | yeah |
| 13:21 | <smallclone> | for the most part, though brooklyn isn't cheap either |
| 13:21 | <ericoc> | NYC in general... $$$$ |
| 13:22 | <smallclone> | you can still live pretty cheap in the less gentrified parts of the bronx |
| 13:22 | <smallclone> | really cheap actually |
| 13:22 | <smallclone> | but my gf wasn't into that |
| 13:23 | <ericoc> | "hey, all these burned out cars just siting on the side of the cross-bronx expressway are perfect starter homes" |
| 13:23 | <ericoc> | starting at $1000/month |
| 13:23 | <smallclone> | plz at 1,000 month there would be a waiting list a mile long |
| 13:25 | <smallclone> | the bronx isn't like that any more though i drove up there the other day to buy a new coffee table |
| 13:25 | <smallclone> | cool doc about gangs during that time period though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wh5giWUeD6M |
| 13:26 | <smallclone> | there's one scene where a guy drives over the bridge from manhattan and on the other side there's bombed out cars everywhere and fire hydrants running in the street |
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| 13:28 | * | millisa lived in the bronx (at a lighthouse even) during that timeperiod... |
| 13:29 | <messenger> | ubuntu.linode: iptables rules that are indeed working dont show up in my iptables -L is there something different about linode firewall? |
| 13:30 | <millisa> | nothing different. |
| 13:31 | <dwfreed> | where are you putting your rules? |
| 13:32 | <millisa> | and do you see them in the output of 'iptables-save'? |
| 13:36 | <messenger> | i was using the command line to set them up using "sudo iptables...setting port etc." then saving iptables-save > /etc/iptables.rules |
| 13:37 | <dwfreed> | did you set something up to restore them on boot? |
| 13:38 | <messenger> | that's the thing, i read about iptables-persistent - but I didn't do that. I did just reboot the server and the ssh port remains as the one I changed to. but nothing shows up on the iptables -L |
| 13:38 | <dwfreed> | you generally don't change SSH ports with iptables |
| 13:39 | <dwfreed> | and if you don't restore firewall rules, iptables' default is to "allow" everything |
| 13:40 | <dwfreed> | I put allow in quotes because it just means it won't try to block anything, but if there are no daemons listening on the port one tries to connect on, they still won't be able to connect |
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| 13:54 | <messenger> | dwfreed: your explanation helps because nothing is listening on 22, the only thing i did was allow certain ports a custom port for SSH, http, https then I dropped everything so that DROP was default. but like you mentioned, after reboot the iptables were cleared but somehow the daemon was listening on my custom port. I think I changed sushi_config so is that i show the daemon knows to listen on the custom port I gather. |
| 13:54 | <dwfreed> | yes |
| 13:55 | <dwfreed> | I assume you meant sshd_config, and your device corrected sshd to sushi |
| 13:55 | <messenger> | yeah |
| 13:56 | <messenger> | when I use sushi_config I usually open the port for a rainbow roll, caterpillar roll, and sometimes a dynamite roll |
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| 13:59 | <messenger> | thanks for the help, I'm going to create my rules then use iptables_persistent |
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| 14:10 | <diveyez> | Daily meetings at 8am are going to kill me. Repeating myself everyday. |
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| 14:15 | <@sjacobs> | you said a medical group is around, right? i believe it is their duty to not let you die. |
| 14:25 | <diveyez> | Yeah, My doctor visits for my health issues are literally paid for by my job now |
| 14:25 | <diveyez> | No insurance required |
| 14:25 | <diveyez> | That is awesome |
| 14:25 | <Zimsky> | not for the company |
| 14:25 | <diveyez> | Living in the office isnt, the windows here dont open ugh |
| 14:25 | <Woet> | wow, doctor visits that are paid for |
| 14:25 | <Woet> | sounds like any 1st world country ever |
| 14:25 | <diveyez> | I cant wait for my condo to be cleaned painted and ready |
| 14:26 | <Zimsky> | I don't even have to worry about medical insurance |
| 14:26 | <Woet> | same |
| 14:26 | <smallclone> | Woet: not the US |
| 14:26 | <Woet> | yea |
| 14:26 | <Woet> | i said 1st world country |
| 14:26 | <Woet> | please read |
| 14:26 | <diveyez> | umm, the company I work for own 27 neck and back ortho clinics and has 147 doctors |
| 14:26 | <Woet> | how many necks do you have? |
| 14:26 | <diveyez> | Comp'd doctor visits and prescriptions |
| 14:26 | <diveyez> | I have 999 necks |
| 14:27 | <Woet> | that explains why you keep talking down |
| 14:27 | <smallclone> | the US has all of the weapons and all of the fast and furious movies |
| 14:27 | <smallclone> | it's a superpower |
| 14:27 | <diveyez> | The company dont mind it at all, boss showed me the accounts, were talking 9 figures |
| 14:27 | <diveyez> | He said "do you feel more comfortable now??" |
| 14:27 | <Woet> | is that including cents |
| 14:27 | <Zimsky> | smallclone: no it doesn't |
| 14:27 | <diveyez> | Im like 'Fuck yeah' |
| 14:28 | <diveyez> | No, the accounts he has setup for me are 9 figurez |
| 14:28 | <Zimsky> | diveyez: did he consider retrofebrile therapy? |
| 14:28 | <diveyez> | I am being given lots of money to play with for myself, and hardware/software |
| 14:28 | <Zimsky> | if you ever need a neurosurgeon, let me know |
| 14:28 | <Woet> | im glad your doctors are free, you wont be charged when they diagnose your condition that makes you brag every 15 minutes |
| 14:28 | <diveyez> | I do, but I have one here at my job |
| 14:29 | <diveyez> | Chicks dig my scars |
| 14:29 | <diveyez> | One of my arms is 60% titanium |
| 14:30 | <diveyez> | btc just broke 9k usd again |
| 14:30 | <smallclone> | >windowless room, surrounded by doctors, 60% titanium |
| 14:30 | <smallclone> | are you wolverine? |
| 14:30 | <diveyez> | lol |
| 14:30 | <diveyez> | Calcium is classified as a metal, so yes I do have a metal skeleton |
| 14:31 | <diveyez> | Brb, I need to reboot a network switch cause dlink is trash |
| 14:31 | <Zimsky> | you're a fucking idiot |
| 14:31 | <Zimsky> | go away |
| 14:31 | <diveyez> | !unpoint Zimsky |
| 14:31 | <linbot> | diveyez: Point taken from zimsky! (14) |
| 14:32 | <Woet> | !unpoint Zimsky |
| 14:32 | <linbot> | Woet: Point taken from zimsky! (13) |
| 14:33 | <Zimsky> | !unpoint Zimsky |
| 14:33 | <linbot> | Zimsky: Point taken from zimsky! (12) |
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| 14:36 | <messenger> | exit |
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| 14:43 | <@mcintosh> | !unpoint Zimsky |
| 14:43 | <linbot> | mcintosh: Point taken from zimsky! (1) |
| 14:43 | <Woet> | !unpoint messenger |
| 14:43 | <linbot> | Woet: Point taken from messenger! (0) |
| 14:43 | <Woet> | no negatives? |
| 14:43 | <Woet> | or starts at 1? |
| 14:43 | <Zimsky> | !unpoint Zimsky |
| 14:43 | <Woet> | or somehow had 1 point? |
| 14:43 | <linbot> | Zimsky: Point taken from zimsky! (1) |
| 14:43 | <Woet> | !unpoint messenger |
| 14:43 | <linbot> | Woet: Point taken from messenger! (0) |
| 14:43 | <Zimsky> | !unpoint Zimsky |
| 14:43 | <linbot> | Zimsky: Point taken from zimsky! (1) |
| 14:43 | <Woet> | hmm |
| 14:43 | <Woet> | interesting |
| 14:43 | <Zimsky> | nice one mcintosh |
| 14:44 | <Zimsky> | !point mcintosh |
| 14:44 | <linbot> | Zimsky: Point given to mcintosh. (33) |
| 14:44 | <Zimsky> | Zimsky-- |
| 14:44 | <Zimsky> | shame |
| 14:44 | <Zimsky> | !point mcintosh |
| 14:44 | <linbot> | Zimsky: Point given to mcintosh. (34) |
| 14:44 | <Zimsky> | hm |
| 14:45 | <Zimsky> | even more curious |
| 14:46 | <Woet> | yea 33 + 34 |
| 14:47 | <Woet> | 33 + 1 = 34 |
| 14:47 | <Woet> | very curious |
| 14:48 | <Zimsky> | my curiosity is drawn from other considerations |
| 14:50 | <Zimsky> | Woet: are you familiar with the 1 = 2 proofs? |
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| 15:16 | <flashcache> | hello, is there administrator here? |
| 15:17 | <@sjacobs> | !ask |
| 15:17 | <linbot> | If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read http://alexfornuto.com/how-to-ask-for-help-on-irc/ |
| 15:20 | <flashcache> | ok, thank you. I know Linode Manager has provided many functionality to manage the node. however, I want customized feature, so can I continue to develop based on the linode manager？ |
| 15:21 | <@sjacobs> | https://developers.linode.com/v4/introduction should get you started. |
| 15:21 | <@sjacobs> | just about anything you can do in the manager can be done with the api. |
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| 15:25 | <flashcache> | what development language do you use for the API? python ? thanks a lot |
| 15:25 | <millisa> | whatever language you want |
| 15:26 | <millisa> | if it can do curl calls or similar, it can talk to the api |
| 15:27 | <diveyez> | point wars I see |
| 15:28 | <Zimsky> | !unpoint diveyez |
| 15:28 | <linbot> | Zimsky: Point taken from diveyez! (-3) |
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| 15:28 | <Zimsky> | how's it going chat |
| 15:29 | <chat> | dd |
| 15:29 | <chat> | ddd |
| 15:29 | <millisa> | e? |
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| 15:29 | <Zimsky> | too big |
| 15:30 | <chat> | dd |
| 15:30 | <Zimsky> | won't get proper support |
| 15:35 | <Woet> | dddddd |
| 15:35 | <@sjacobs> | flashcache: there is a python wrapper, if you want to use it. |
| 15:35 | <@sjacobs> | https://python-linode-api.readthedocs.io/en/latest/index.html |
| 15:38 | <Woet> | always use a wrapper kids |
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| 15:41 | <flashcache> | ok, thank you |
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| 16:19 | <aala> | hi |
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| 16:22 | <chat> | exit |
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| 16:28 | <tafa2> | can anyone recommend an inbound spam filtering solution for cPanel? |
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| 16:32 | <SIGCORP> | HELLO, how do I record payment and the system come back? |
| 16:32 | <tafa2> | record payment? |
| 16:34 | <SIGCORP> | Yes, we paid in arrears due to card problem and now we are out of access |
| 16:34 | <tafa2> | ah |
| 16:34 | <tafa2> | I think you're going to have to submit a ticket |
| 16:34 | <tafa2> | !support |
| 16:34 | <tafa2> | !ticket |
| 16:34 | <linbot> | Sounds like ticket time! Your problem will probably be solved much faster by submitting a support ticket, rather than hoping to catch an employee's attention here. |
| 16:35 | <SIGCORP> | Where do you open it? |
| 16:35 | <tafa2> | https://www.linode.com/contact |
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| 16:37 | <SIGCORP> | Ok, Thanks |
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| 22:23 | <Lineman> | Hello please I want to know if the linode managed vps is free? |
| 22:23 | <@bhanks> | hi there Lineman. no, there is no free Linode plan. but also keep in mind that we're an unmanaged hosting provider so all configuration of your server is up to you or your admin. |
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| 22:26 | <linbot> | New news from forum: Performance and Tuning • Architecture 101 - What's my first step? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=16105&p=76444#p76444> |
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| 23:41 | <yodeler> | total nube here |
| 23:41 | <@scrane> | Hey there! How can we help? |
| 23:42 | <yodeler> | Hi, I'm looking for a hosting company to *just* host an email server. I'd like to keep my website at its current location. Is that something I can do with Linode? |
| 23:43 | <@scrane> | Yeah, absolutely. You'll just need to add an A record for your mail server (mail.domain.com for example) then add the MX records to include the LInode's IP address, set up RDNS and SPF records and you're good to go |
| 23:43 | <millisa> | (assuming you know how to setup and manage a mail server) |
| 23:43 | <yodeler> | You make it sound so easy :-) |
| 23:43 | <@scrane> | That, too |
| 23:44 | <yodeler> | Ok, well I appreciate you answering my question. I should be able to figure it out. |
| 23:44 | <yodeler> | Thanks for the help folks |
| 23:44 | <millisa> | You might want to look at some of the docs - https://linode.com/docs/email/running-a-mail-server/ |
| 23:45 | <yodeler> | perfect, thanks |
| 23:45 | <millisa> | Lots of different mail guides at: https://www.linode.com/docs/email/ and start with the getting started guide https://www.linode.com/docs/getting-started/ |
| 23:45 | <yodeler> | have a good night y'all |
| 23:45 | <@bhanks> | !point millisa |
| 23:45 | <linbot> | bhanks: Point given to millisa. (54) (Biggest fan: relidy, total: 12) |
| 23:45 | <millisa> | hooray! |
| 23:45 | <yodeler> | Ok, will do! |
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