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03:00<Eugene>Every day I'm Linodin'
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03:00<FB>Hi
03:00<millisa>Greetings
03:00<FB>How does Linode calcute Traffic?
03:01<FB>In my use case i need traffic and the VPS only for some days
03:01<millisa>a deployed vps comes with a preallocated amount of transfer quota.
03:01<millisa>the amount you have is prorated until the end of the month
03:07<FB>i so cant use 100-0GB Traffic a day on Linode 8GB Plan without extra charge ?
03:08<Peng_>https://www.linode.com/pricing You can do 4 TB of outbound transfer per month.
03:08<Peng_>Divided by 28-31 days...
03:10<Zimsky>!unpoint Eugene
03:10<linbot>Zimsky: Point taken from eugene! (56)
03:22<linbot>New news from forum: Sales Questions and Answers • Achieve Unprecedented Business Growth With Email List <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=16103&p=76438#p76438>
03:30<JamesTK>!unpoint Eugene
03:30<linbot>JamesTK: Point taken from eugene! (55)
03:56<diveyez>Southern california is awesome
03:57<@jchun>Agreed!
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04:02<Woet>!unpoint Eugene
04:02<linbot>Woet: Point taken from eugene! (54)
04:03<Woet>!point Zimsky
04:03<linbot>Woet: Point given to zimsky. (15) (Biggest fan: woet, total: 14)
04:03<Woet>!point JamesTK
04:03<linbot>Woet: Point given to jamestk. (1)
04:03<JamesTK>:D
04:03<JamesTK>Ha, Woet's your biggest fan, Zimsky
04:04<Woet>fake news
04:04<Zimsky>casa marbleu
04:05<Zimsky>casu*
04:06<Woet>linbot just has an internal counter, it doesnt actually check the points currently assigned
04:06<Woet>aka it needs more blockchain technology
04:06<Zimsky>oh you're just having a laugh
04:07<Woet>i don't laugh.
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04:07<Zimsky>I know
04:08<Zimsky>laughing is not the same as having a laugh
04:23<flugsio1>I have 170 linodes which needs migration, at 50 different times between 2018-04-27 and 2018-05-11 (which is hard to oversee/or inform each customers about). Will it be possible to start these manually at some later date, or is each startdate locked?
04:24<dwfreed>if they're in a migration queue, you should be able to start them early
04:24<dwfreed>but this sounds like reboots, not migrations
04:26<dwfreed>if I'm right about it being reboots, the ticket does say "The above listed maintenance windows cannot be altered, postponed, or rescheduled."
04:38<flugsio1>Ah yes, these are reboots and not migrations. It also says "once we’ve communicated your migration queue times to you, you’ll be able to manually start your migrations by clicking the “Migrate NOW”"
04:38<flugsio1>I'm not sure what they mean by migration queue time, maybe they mean the queue that is created at the scheduled time.
04:39<Peng_>That sounds like a mistake in the message. You get migrated *or* rebooted, not both.
04:40<diveyez>Mercedes AMG suv keys given to me at arrival, I refused it
04:40<diveyez>I am buying a toyota next week
04:40<diveyez>That mercedes is ridiculous
04:40<Peng_>Linode hasn't given me a Mercedes. :(
04:40<flugsio1>Ok, i think i get the message now. I can only manually press migrate now for the 3 machines I have to migrate after 30 april. Thanks for helping me read properly :)
04:41<diveyez>I dont work for linode
04:41<diveyez>I was hired as an intern student with full benefits on everything, and good pay
04:41<diveyez>Even a condo coming
04:42<diveyez>As I said, southern california is awesome, I come from a poor spot in Baltimore
04:42<diveyez>Only thing is, I have to keep a 3.5 gpa
04:42<diveyez>I have 5 jobs now, I had my own company as my only income for a year
04:42<diveyez>Its nice to know someone else is working to make sure I have money for once =)
04:43<Zimsky>what?
04:43<diveyez>Some dell power series rack mount servers with some e5 chips and ssds are on the way
04:43<Zimsky>k
04:43<diveyez>Got a goooood deal =)
04:43<diveyez>Im just venting off my fun times before bed
04:44<diveyez>Had to setup my terminal tonight so I can work at 8am tomorrow
04:44<diveyez>I used a raspberry pi to make a tunnel, and turned it into a hotspot. Awesome
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04:59<@bhanks>what is even happening
05:00<@gjjansen>Linode and Linode-based accessories?
05:00<diveyez>LOL
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05:03<diveyez>We should make a linodin music video, everyday im linodin
05:04<Peng_>singing from the roof of a badly parked Mercedes
05:09<@bhanks>whose car though? diveyez didnt take the mercedes.
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05:10<Peng_>can you rent a car from Amazon with drones yet?
05:13<@gjjansen>Eugene would need to show up for the filming.
05:13<@gjjansen>Amazon did just start deliveries in their car, Peng_
05:15<@gjjansen>Maybe they'll deliver a car to my car?
05:16<Peng_>One of the cars would have to be a lot bigger than the other
05:16<Peng_>[insert Knight Rider GIF]
05:24<diveyez>I can borrow that thing if I need to
05:24<diveyez>lol
05:25<diveyez>I was opening a box, and I sliced my finger
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05:54<@jchun>gjjansen they already deliver my boxes in boxes. doesn't seem like a huge leap.
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06:04<Woet>diveyez has some medical condition where he has to brag every 15 minutes
06:04<Woet>else he'll go into a coma
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06:04<Woet>press F to pay respect
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06:33<ennerd>Are there problems with communicating with S3 from linode? I'm getting very low transfer rate.
06:33<ennerd>around 4KB/s
06:34<Peng_>Yikes
06:34<ennerd>Try this file: https://seriawebcast.s3.amazonaws.com/v1/83474507/images/preview.jpg
06:34<ennerd>It takes <1 second from my computer and other servers outside linode, but ETA 3m 46s currently using wget on a linode.
06:36<Peng_>The Itnernet doesn't usually guarantee that connections between two distant places will be fast
06:37<Peng_>What location is the Linode in?
06:37<Peng_>Is IPv6 faster? :D
06:37<Peng_>Is a traceroute or mtr notably terrible?
06:37<Peng_>How long has it been slow?
06:37<Peng_>In general, consider S3 Transfer Acceleration or CloudFront. :D
06:38<ennerd>It is in Frankfurt, IPv4
06:38<Peng_>That's far.
06:38<Peng_>4 KB/s is still awful, but that is far.
06:39<ennerd>My server in Norway is much, much faster.
06:39<ennerd>And it is further away.
06:40<ennerd>Frankfurt to Ireland is not far.
06:40<Peng_>Oh, that S3 bucket isn't in us-east-1?
06:40<ennerd>No, Ireland.
06:40<Peng_>Oh
06:41<Peng_>I assumed from the endpoint
06:41<Peng_>That's definitely not very far!
06:41<ennerd>ping to bucket is around 21.5 ms
06:41<ennerd>I tried rebooting the server, but no change.
06:42<Peng_>A traceroute or mtr might be interesting. (Though Amazon's networks are not very comprehensible.)
06:42<Peng_>IPv6 might, by chance, be working better
06:42<ennerd>I did a tracerout - but after hop 13 it says only * * *.
06:43<ennerd>decix.amazon.com is hop number 3 at 1.8 ms
06:43<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Ubuntu 12.04 VPN setup <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=10170&p=76439#p76439>
06:48<ennerd>Peng_: Thanks, it appears that using IPv6 solved the problem. bucketname.s3.dualstack.eu-west-1.amazonaws.com
06:50<Peng_>If you have any EC2 instances in eu-west-1, an mtr or traceroute from AWS to Linode might be interesting (and incomprehensible).
06:51<Peng_>You could file tickets with Amazon and Linode, but it could be an issue with some other ISP, and people might be fixing it already anyway,
06:51<ennerd>Peng_: I don't. I have one in AWS Frankfurt.
06:51<ennerd>Peng_: I did file a support ticket :)
06:51<Peng_>wait don't Amazon and Linode peer in some locations
06:52<ennerd>Peng_: But this ipv6 solved my immediate problem, which is great.
06:52<ennerd>cd
06:52<Peng_>:)
06:52<ennerd>oops. :) cd went into the wrong window haha
06:53<Peng_>It's just luck -- one day maybe IPv6 will have issues and IPv4 will be working fine
06:53<@bhanks>lucky it was just cd lol ennerd
06:54<ennerd>Peng_: Yes. I added some logic to my website earlier today so that if it is slow in the future, it will still work - although with reduced performance.
06:54<ennerd>bhanks: Yes :D
06:55<Cromulent>has anyone here tried out the OpenSSH client and server that comes bundled with Windows 10?
06:55<ennerd>Peng_: Basically, my clients would fetch images directly from S3 - whenever my linodes that cache the images is experiencing slowness.
06:56<Cromulent>it is an optional feature
07:03<@jchun>Cromulent: It took me a while to figure out how to even get it to work. I did get it working, but I don't remember how and it was definitely not worth the effort... Getting that Ubuntu Container thing that's built-in was fairly easy to use though.
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07:05<Cromulent>yeah I used the Ubuntu container as well - only just found out that there is an actual implementation built in so you don't need the whole of the ubuntu userland tools
07:09<Cromulent>I was thinking of paying for a VPN from someone but if I can set my Linode OpenSSH server up as a VPN server then I can just use the Windows 10 OpenSSH client to connect and tunneling everything through to my Linode
07:11<dwfreed>can the native openssh do tun tunneling?
07:11<dwfreed>(ssh -D and tun are not equivalent)
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07:18<Abdullrhman>Hello
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07:19<Abdullrhman>Hi
07:19<Abdullrhman>anybody here?
07:19<Cromulent>yep
07:19<Abdullrhman>Hello
07:19<Cromulent>hi
07:20<Abdullrhman>I would like to ask if Odoo app is pre-installed on the hosting servers that you provide or not
07:20<Abdullrhman>is it?
07:20<Cromulent>Linode servers are unmanaged so you need to install everything you want on them
07:20<Cromulent>or you could pay Linode to do it for you
07:21<Cromulent>you just get a basic Linux server all the config is down to you
07:21<Abdullrhman>How much it will cost me per month if I request to installed Odoo app on the server
07:21<Abdullrhman>?
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07:30<Woet>cya
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07:48<milon>can i use lindoe server for email marketing purpose?
07:49<dzho>if you do it right
07:50<milon>average 1 lac email will deliver everyday
07:51<dzho>lac, crore, it doesn't matter ... it's whether you do it right.
07:51<@sjacobs>have the recipient's opted into your emails? do you verify the email they provide to receive marketing emails is correct?
07:53<dwfreed>the latter one is often referred to as "double opt-in," meaning that upon opt-in, you send them an email confirming that, and they must click a link in the email to do so, and you do *not* send them any more emails until they do
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07:53<milon>no but i will provide a link to easily unsubscribe
07:53<dwfreed>that's not acceptable
07:53<@sjacobs>no to both answers? that's a no-no. even a no to only the second is questionable.
07:53<dwfreed>^
07:54<dwfreed>sjacobs: I've actually gotten to send somebody packing for not doing double opt-in
07:55<dwfreed>because they lied to us and said they implemented it, and i could show that they didn't
07:55<Woet>lol
07:55<Woet>milon: why would you send emails if the people never subscribed to them?
07:57<milon>marketing purpose
07:57<dwfreed>aka spamming
07:57<dzho>unsolicited bulk email, if you're fancy
07:58<dzho>(some people prefer the term "unsolicited commercial email" but that hangs up on "what does 'commercial' mean, anyway?" so I prefer the broader definition)
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07:59<Woet>milon: what are you selling?
07:59<dzho>dreams
07:59<Peng_>Woet: https://www.getmagicbullet.com/
08:00<Woet>what is that girl doing there
08:00<Woet>i want the tf2 scout guy
08:00<ericoc>“v14g4ra”
08:00<milon>how the server detect the recepient give permission or not?
08:00<Woet>or did he sell something else
08:00<dzho>ericoc: banned
08:00<Woet>slap chop
08:00<Woet>that one
08:01<Woet>milon: why does it even matter?
08:01<Woet>milon: stop sending emails to people who didnt ask for them
08:01<milon>woet: but how the server detect the recepient give permission or not?
08:01<Woet>milon: why does it even matter?
08:01<dzho>milon: you're asking good questions, now.
08:02<milon>dzho: can you exlain the answer?
08:02<Woet>milon: can you explain why it matters?
08:02<dwfreed>you only put people in your mailing list that have explicitly given you permission to mail them
08:03<Woet>milon: why are you sending people emails without their permission?
08:03<milon>Woet: they can be interested after reading the offer
08:04<@sjacobs>that is spam.
08:04<Woet>milon: you're the reason people install spamfilters
08:04<dzho>milon: alas, the answer approaches "how to run your own mail server" and ... other things, and is really too much for IRC, and for me, now. The linode documentation has some good starters. The double opt-in example that springs to my mind that is readily available and was once widely used is that of the GNU Mailman subscription process.
08:05<dzho>if you ever decide to go legit, you could do worse at starting there.
08:05<dwfreed>milon: if they were interested they would have asked for the offer in the first place
08:05<dzho>^^^ but yeah, what they said.
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08:07<ericoc>does checking the box at the bottom of a "complete order" screen count as opting in proper? and what if the check box defaults to checked?
08:08<ericoc>that seems to be the super most common thing i see, then i get an email a week later, like "zomg do we have deals for you or what!!!" and i unsubscribe
08:08<DanielNM>zonks
08:14<dwfreed>ericoc: yeah, probably
08:14<ericoc>i mean, unsolicited email in general is unwelcome :/ just not doing that at all would be a+
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08:51<Zimsky>!unpoint diveyez
08:51<linbot>Zimsky: Point taken from diveyez! (-2)
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09:02<Woet>ericoc: thats not unsolicited tho
09:02<Woet>thats literally solicited
09:03<ericoc>i think i just hate e-mail in general
09:03<ericoc>like all of it
09:04<Zimsky>!point ericoc
09:04<linbot>Zimsky: Point given to ericoc. (2)
09:04<Peng_>!point IPv6
09:04<linbot>Peng_: Point given to ipv6. (1)
09:04<ericoc>also paper mail/letters, and push notifications, and instant/text/facebook/linkedin/instagram/twitter/etc. messages... maybe i'd prefer to just not be contacted at all or only have IRC communication
09:05<Zimsky>!unpoint ipv6
09:05<linbot>Zimsky: Point taken from ipv6! (0)
09:05<ericoc>!point ipv6
09:05<linbot>ericoc: Point given to ipv6. (1)
09:05<Zimsky>!unpoint ipv6
09:05<linbot>Zimsky: Point taken from ipv6! (0)
09:05<Zimsky>round and round the merry-go-round goes
09:05<Zimsky>ipv6 is meh
09:06<ericoc>it's pretty sweet tho
09:06<Zimsky>how?
09:06<ericoc>it's just sexier than v4
09:06<Zimsky>beside a larger address space, how is it actually better?
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09:07*ericoc waits for Peng_ to defend ipv6 cause he's smarter than me wrt this
09:07<Peng_>I'm really tired
09:07<Peng_>IPv6 is
09:07<Peng_>great
09:07<Peng_>!!!
09:07<Zimsky>it isn't
09:07<Zimsky>it just isn't
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09:10<dwfreed>Zimsky: routing is typically better, due to more peering, and better use of summary routes
09:10<Peng_>and sometimes cryptocurrency thieves forget to hijack IPv6 :D
09:10<Zimsky>I can always rely on you to contradict me
09:11<Woet>cant ever have enough ipv6
09:11<Zimsky>"due to more peering"; can be done with v4
09:12<ericoc>you get tons of v6 addresses with linode!
09:13<Zimsky>!point ipv4
09:13<linbot>Zimsky: Point given to ipv4. (1)
09:13<Zimsky>!point st2+
09:13<linbot>Zimsky: Point given to st2+. (1)
09:14<ericoc>assuming torrents and streaming don't exist, if you have the option between a bluray (ipv6) or dvd (ipv4) copy of a movie, what do you take? :p
09:14<ericoc>is that a fair analogy
09:14<Zimsky>no
09:15<ericoc>(betamax/vhs is like a token ring dial up network with a acoustic coupler or something in this analogy)
09:19<Zimsky>I have a VHS collection of adult nursery rhymes recorded in triple time
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10:59<@jchun>Zimsky: Are you saying that IPv6 is worse than IPv4?
11:00<@jchun>:O
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11:18<Zimsky>no
11:19<Zimsky>jchun: I am saying it is no better beyond the benefit of a larger address space
11:20<@jchun>larger address space is a pretty big benefit though
11:21<Zimsky>on a global scale, sure
11:21<Zimsky>locally (abstractly), not really
11:23<ericoc>i like my 4954395349593459345934 addresses okay? :)
11:24<ericoc>so what if i only use 3-4 of them
11:24<Zimsky>what weird subnet allocations do you have to only have that number of addresses
11:26<ericoc>i really have no idea how many addresses i have. i just know i have deadbeef.ericoc.com resolving to 2600:3c03:e000:2:dead:beef::1
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11:27<Zimsky>2**64 maybe
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11:34<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Disk resize behaviour <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=16104&p=76440#p76440>
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11:44<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Disk resize behaviour <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=16104&p=76442#p76442>
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11:56<FluffyFoxeh>2600:3c03:e000:12e::f:100f
11:57<FluffyFoxeh>I typed that from memory. Did I get it right?
11:57<FluffyFoxeh>!dns kitsune.fastquake.com
11:57<linbot>FluffyFoxeh: 104.200.30.38
11:57<FluffyFoxeh>no linbot the other one
11:57<FluffyFoxeh>!help dns
11:57<Zimsky>!dig
11:57<linbot>FluffyFoxeh: (dns <host|ip>) -- Returns the ip of <host> or the reverse DNS hostname of <ip>.
11:57<linbot>Zimsky: (dig <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "web title http://kovaya.com/dig.cgi?target_host=$1&type=@1".
11:57<FluffyFoxeh>!dig kitsune.fastquake.com
11:57<linbot>FluffyFoxeh: That URL appears to have no HTML title.
11:57<Zimsky>!dig AAAA kitsune.fastquake.com
11:57<FluffyFoxeh>rip
11:57<linbot>Zimsky: That URL appears to have no HTML title.
11:58<Zimsky>¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿
11:58<Zimsky>ok
11:58<Zimsky>well kitsune.fastquake.com has IPv6 address 2600:3c03:e000:12e::f:100f
11:59<Peng_>!dns6 kitsune.fastquake.com
11:59<linbot>Peng_: 2600:3c03:e000:12e::f:100f, 2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fe56:c54d, 104.200.30.38
11:59<FluffyFoxeh>nice
12:00<FluffyFoxeh>I use the former because the other one is based on the MAC address and changes if you move the Linode
12:00<FluffyFoxeh>I discovered that at one point
12:01<Zimsky>I use a paring knife for cheese
12:01<Peng_>What kind of move?
12:01<Zimsky>you press down on the cheese
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12:05<FluffyFoxeh>my mum took all the papers off my desk and put them in the garbage :/
12:05<FluffyFoxeh>just because it looks like a disorganized pile of papers doesn't mean they're garbage
12:05<FluffyFoxeh>jeez
12:06<Zimsky>why is your mother cleaning your desk?
12:06<FluffyFoxeh>idk
12:06<FluffyFoxeh>I didn't ask her to
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12:07<dwfreed>FluffyFoxeh: MAC address never changes, even if you move hosts or datacenters
12:08<FluffyFoxeh>oh I think maybe what I found was that it couldn't be swapped between linodes
12:08<dwfreed>yeah, that would be it
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12:13<FluffyFoxeh>dwfreed: though I'm surprised it remains across datacentres
12:13<FluffyFoxeh>what is it tied to?
12:13<FluffyFoxeh>is it just randomly generated by the hypervisor?
12:14<dwfreed>it is derived at Linode creation
12:16<Peng_>if you felt a pinch while clicking "add this Linode!", that was the DNA sample being collected
12:16<@mcintosh>!point Peng_
12:16<linbot>mcintosh: Point given to peng_. (6)
12:16<dwfreed>!point Peng_
12:16<linbot>dwfreed: Point given to peng_. (7)
12:17<Zimsky>you don't need to pinch someone to do that
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12:50<diveyez>You Woet m8?
12:51<diveyez>Fixing a brother fax scan copier printer is no fun
12:51*Woet pinches Peng_
12:52<diveyez>I only slept for two hours before the staff for the medical group showed up, im kinda hung over haha
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12:56<diveyez>Cool, earthquake!
12:57<Zimsky>
12:58<dwfreed>3.4, nothing to write home about
12:58<dwfreed>https://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eventpage/ci37923679#executive
12:58<smallclone>i dunno how people get used to those things
12:59<ericoc>3.4 is nothing tho
13:00<smallclone>it's enough to rattle tables around and stuff isn't it
13:00<smallclone>scared the hell out of me when i briefly lived in LA
13:01<ericoc>eh, 3.4 indoors, idk if it would rattle much, especially depending on the building's construction? im not an expert at all tho
13:01<smallclone>i'll stick with the east coast where we just have a mysterious small earth quake every couple of years and everyone loses their minds
13:02<Peng_>instead the land is slowly sinking into the sea
13:04<smallclone>philadelphia i think is pretty well set for rising sea levels
13:04<smallclone>where i live will be under water though
13:04<Peng_>:X
13:05<smallclone>i like to imagine they'll build a wall around manhattan and turn it into some kind of fortress for the elites, and brooklyn will turn into a lawless waterworld where people live in camps on the roofs of old rowhomes
13:05<smallclone>should be cool
13:06<smallclone>maybe i can get a rent reduction
13:07<Zimsky>and then the anarchists will break down the wall
13:07<Zimsky>and manhattan will flood
13:07<Zimsky>: )
13:07<smallclone>i'd watch this movie
13:08<Zimsky>I'd produce this film
13:08<Zimsky>anyone got a spare few million?
13:09<ericoc>smallclone: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082340/
13:10<ericoc>> Manhattan, now a giant maximum security prison
13:11<grawity>I was reading Manaugh's "Burglar's Guide To The City" and that's not too far off from the truth in some places
13:11<Zimsky>>in 1997
13:11<Zimsky>lol
13:12<Zimsky>hey it's directed by john carpenter
13:12<Zimsky>neat
13:18<ericoc>it might be on netflix?
13:18<ericoc>i think that's where i saw it
13:18<smallclone>i mean, i love that movie
13:18<smallclone>but
13:18<smallclone>this is different
13:19<smallclone>and by different i mean that it's basically the reverse of that
13:19<smallclone>with reused set pieces from waterworld (1995)
13:19<ericoc>is manhattan not already "some kind of fortress for the elites"
13:20<smallclone>yeah
13:21<smallclone>for the most part, though brooklyn isn't cheap either
13:21<ericoc>NYC in general... $$$$
13:22<smallclone>you can still live pretty cheap in the less gentrified parts of the bronx
13:22<smallclone>really cheap actually
13:22<smallclone>but my gf wasn't into that
13:23<ericoc>"hey, all these burned out cars just siting on the side of the cross-bronx expressway are perfect starter homes"
13:23<ericoc>starting at $1000/month
13:23<smallclone>plz at 1,000 month there would be a waiting list a mile long
13:25<smallclone>the bronx isn't like that any more though i drove up there the other day to buy a new coffee table
13:25<smallclone>cool doc about gangs during that time period though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wh5giWUeD6M
13:26<smallclone>there's one scene where a guy drives over the bridge from manhattan and on the other side there's bombed out cars everywhere and fire hydrants running in the street
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13:28*millisa lived in the bronx (at a lighthouse even) during that timeperiod...
13:29<messenger>ubuntu.linode: iptables rules that are indeed working dont show up in my iptables -L is there something different about linode firewall?
13:30<millisa>nothing different.
13:31<dwfreed>where are you putting your rules?
13:32<millisa>and do you see them in the output of 'iptables-save'?
13:36<messenger>i was using the command line to set them up using "sudo iptables...setting port etc." then saving iptables-save > /etc/iptables.rules
13:37<dwfreed>did you set something up to restore them on boot?
13:38<messenger>that's the thing, i read about iptables-persistent - but I didn't do that. I did just reboot the server and the ssh port remains as the one I changed to. but nothing shows up on the iptables -L
13:38<dwfreed>you generally don't change SSH ports with iptables
13:39<dwfreed>and if you don't restore firewall rules, iptables' default is to "allow" everything
13:40<dwfreed>I put allow in quotes because it just means it won't try to block anything, but if there are no daemons listening on the port one tries to connect on, they still won't be able to connect
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13:54<messenger>dwfreed: your explanation helps because nothing is listening on 22, the only thing i did was allow certain ports a custom port for SSH, http, https then I dropped everything so that DROP was default. but like you mentioned, after reboot the iptables were cleared but somehow the daemon was listening on my custom port. I think I changed sushi_config so is that i show the daemon knows to listen on the custom port I gather.
13:54<dwfreed>yes
13:55<dwfreed>I assume you meant sshd_config, and your device corrected sshd to sushi
13:55<messenger>yeah
13:56<messenger>when I use sushi_config I usually open the port for a rainbow roll, caterpillar roll, and sometimes a dynamite roll
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13:59<messenger>thanks for the help, I'm going to create my rules then use iptables_persistent
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14:10<diveyez>Daily meetings at 8am are going to kill me. Repeating myself everyday.
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14:15<@sjacobs>you said a medical group is around, right? i believe it is their duty to not let you die.
14:25<diveyez>Yeah, My doctor visits for my health issues are literally paid for by my job now
14:25<diveyez>No insurance required
14:25<diveyez>That is awesome
14:25<Zimsky>not for the company
14:25<diveyez>Living in the office isnt, the windows here dont open ugh
14:25<Woet>wow, doctor visits that are paid for
14:25<Woet>sounds like any 1st world country ever
14:25<diveyez>I cant wait for my condo to be cleaned painted and ready
14:26<Zimsky>I don't even have to worry about medical insurance
14:26<Woet>same
14:26<smallclone>Woet: not the US
14:26<Woet>yea
14:26<Woet>i said 1st world country
14:26<Woet>please read
14:26<diveyez>umm, the company I work for own 27 neck and back ortho clinics and has 147 doctors
14:26<Woet>how many necks do you have?
14:26<diveyez>Comp'd doctor visits and prescriptions
14:26<diveyez>I have 999 necks
14:27<Woet>that explains why you keep talking down
14:27<smallclone>the US has all of the weapons and all of the fast and furious movies
14:27<smallclone>it's a superpower
14:27<diveyez>The company dont mind it at all, boss showed me the accounts, were talking 9 figures
14:27<diveyez>He said "do you feel more comfortable now??"
14:27<Woet>is that including cents
14:27<Zimsky>smallclone: no it doesn't
14:27<diveyez>Im like 'Fuck yeah'
14:28<diveyez>No, the accounts he has setup for me are 9 figurez
14:28<Zimsky>diveyez: did he consider retrofebrile therapy?
14:28<diveyez>I am being given lots of money to play with for myself, and hardware/software
14:28<Zimsky>if you ever need a neurosurgeon, let me know
14:28<Woet>im glad your doctors are free, you wont be charged when they diagnose your condition that makes you brag every 15 minutes
14:28<diveyez>I do, but I have one here at my job
14:29<diveyez>Chicks dig my scars
14:29<diveyez>One of my arms is 60% titanium
14:30<diveyez>btc just broke 9k usd again
14:30<smallclone>>windowless room, surrounded by doctors, 60% titanium
14:30<smallclone>are you wolverine?
14:30<diveyez>lol
14:30<diveyez>Calcium is classified as a metal, so yes I do have a metal skeleton
14:31<diveyez>Brb, I need to reboot a network switch cause dlink is trash
14:31<Zimsky>you're a fucking idiot
14:31<Zimsky>go away
14:31<diveyez>!unpoint Zimsky
14:31<linbot>diveyez: Point taken from zimsky! (14)
14:32<Woet>!unpoint Zimsky
14:32<linbot>Woet: Point taken from zimsky! (13)
14:33<Zimsky>!unpoint Zimsky
14:33<linbot>Zimsky: Point taken from zimsky! (12)
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14:36<messenger>exit
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14:43<@mcintosh>!unpoint Zimsky
14:43<linbot>mcintosh: Point taken from zimsky! (1)
14:43<Woet>!unpoint messenger
14:43<linbot>Woet: Point taken from messenger! (0)
14:43<Woet>no negatives?
14:43<Woet>or starts at 1?
14:43<Zimsky>!unpoint Zimsky
14:43<Woet>or somehow had 1 point?
14:43<linbot>Zimsky: Point taken from zimsky! (1)
14:43<Woet>!unpoint messenger
14:43<linbot>Woet: Point taken from messenger! (0)
14:43<Zimsky>!unpoint Zimsky
14:43<linbot>Zimsky: Point taken from zimsky! (1)
14:43<Woet>hmm
14:43<Woet>interesting
14:43<Zimsky>nice one mcintosh
14:44<Zimsky>!point mcintosh
14:44<linbot>Zimsky: Point given to mcintosh. (33)
14:44<Zimsky>Zimsky--
14:44<Zimsky>shame
14:44<Zimsky>!point mcintosh
14:44<linbot>Zimsky: Point given to mcintosh. (34)
14:44<Zimsky>hm
14:45<Zimsky>even more curious
14:46<Woet>yea 33 + 34
14:47<Woet>33 + 1 = 34
14:47<Woet>very curious
14:48<Zimsky>my curiosity is drawn from other considerations
14:50<Zimsky>Woet: are you familiar with the 1 = 2 proofs?
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15:16<flashcache>hello, is there administrator here?
15:17<@sjacobs>!ask
15:17<linbot>If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read http://alexfornuto.com/how-to-ask-for-help-on-irc/
15:20<flashcache>ok, thank you. I know Linode Manager has provided many functionality to manage the node. however, I want customized feature, so can I continue to develop based on the linode manager?
15:21<@sjacobs>https://developers.linode.com/v4/introduction should get you started.
15:21<@sjacobs>just about anything you can do in the manager can be done with the api.
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15:25<flashcache>what development language do you use for the API? python ? thanks a lot
15:25<millisa>whatever language you want
15:26<millisa>if it can do curl calls or similar, it can talk to the api
15:27<diveyez>point wars I see
15:28<Zimsky>!unpoint diveyez
15:28<linbot>Zimsky: Point taken from diveyez! (-3)
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15:28<Zimsky>how's it going chat
15:29<chat>dd
15:29<chat>ddd
15:29<millisa>e?
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15:29<Zimsky>too big
15:30<chat>dd
15:30<Zimsky>won't get proper support
15:35<Woet>dddddd
15:35<@sjacobs>flashcache: there is a python wrapper, if you want to use it.
15:35<@sjacobs>https://python-linode-api.readthedocs.io/en/latest/index.html
15:38<Woet>always use a wrapper kids
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15:41<flashcache>ok, thank you
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16:19<aala>hi
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16:22<chat>exit
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16:28<tafa2>can anyone recommend an inbound spam filtering solution for cPanel?
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16:32<SIGCORP>HELLO, how do I record payment and the system come back?
16:32<tafa2>record payment?
16:34<SIGCORP> Yes, we paid in arrears due to card problem and now we are out of access
16:34<tafa2>ah
16:34<tafa2>I think you're going to have to submit a ticket
16:34<tafa2>!support
16:34<tafa2>!ticket
16:34<linbot>Sounds like ticket time! Your problem will probably be solved much faster by submitting a support ticket, rather than hoping to catch an employee's attention here.
16:35<SIGCORP>Where do you open it?
16:35<tafa2>https://www.linode.com/contact
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16:37<SIGCORP>Ok, Thanks
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22:23<Lineman>Hello please I want to know if the linode managed vps is free?
22:23<@bhanks>hi there Lineman. no, there is no free Linode plan. but also keep in mind that we're an unmanaged hosting provider so all configuration of your server is up to you or your admin.
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22:26<linbot>New news from forum: Performance and Tuning • Architecture 101 - What's my first step? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=16105&p=76444#p76444>
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23:41<yodeler>total nube here
23:41<@scrane>Hey there! How can we help?
23:42<yodeler>Hi, I'm looking for a hosting company to *just* host an email server. I'd like to keep my website at its current location. Is that something I can do with Linode?
23:43<@scrane>Yeah, absolutely. You'll just need to add an A record for your mail server (mail.domain.com for example) then add the MX records to include the LInode's IP address, set up RDNS and SPF records and you're good to go
23:43<millisa>(assuming you know how to setup and manage a mail server)
23:43<yodeler>You make it sound so easy :-)
23:43<@scrane>That, too
23:44<yodeler>Ok, well I appreciate you answering my question. I should be able to figure it out.
23:44<yodeler>Thanks for the help folks
23:44<millisa>You might want to look at some of the docs - https://linode.com/docs/email/running-a-mail-server/
23:45<yodeler>perfect, thanks
23:45<millisa>Lots of different mail guides at: https://www.linode.com/docs/email/ and start with the getting started guide https://www.linode.com/docs/getting-started/
23:45<yodeler>have a good night y'all
23:45<@bhanks>!point millisa
23:45<linbot>bhanks: Point given to millisa. (54) (Biggest fan: relidy, total: 12)
23:45<millisa>hooray!
23:45<yodeler>Ok, will do!
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