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00:52<@bhanks>Eugene i appreciate the update
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02:21<lera>hi
02:21<lera>can you help?
02:22<lera>is it possible to install third-party ssl on your hosting?
02:23<lera>Hello?
02:23<Ikaros>I don't see why not, it's unmanaged hosting, you control what you host, use an SSL cert from any CA you want
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02:26<lera>thank you for your reply
02:26<lera>so, the cert should be installed on apache web server?
02:26<lera>Am I right?
02:27<Ikaros>Apache or any other web server you want to use.
02:27<Ikaros>Like I said, it's up to you, since it's unmanaged (you manage it)
02:27<lera>oh okay
02:27<lera>thank you for the clarification
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02:28<patriciacahill0>HI
02:28<lera>the one thing is that it has not got a control panel
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02:31<patriciacahill0_>hi
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02:34<Zimsky>lera: that means you have the joy of getting to install one :D
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02:36<SHuvo>Does linode restrict bulk mailing?
02:37<Zimsky>depends what "restrict" means, and what "bulk mailing" means
02:37<lera>yeah, really joy
02:37<lera>cause apache or IIS is always a joy)
02:37<Zimsky>IIS is the most fun ever
02:37<Zimsky>on a friday night I just kick back and start up a compile of IIS
02:38<lera>wow
02:38<lera>any luck?
02:38<Zimsky>not today my friend
02:38<lera>that's a pity! :D
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02:40<Ikaros>Heh. ToS would have said unsolicited bulk email is a no-no. In other words, all the bulk sender guidelines would have to be followed to the letter. Pretty sure Linode would not be happy if one of their IPs ended up on spam blacklists.
02:40<lera>Where are you from by the way?
02:40<Zimsky>€20 says it's shitty marketing emails no one wants to read
02:41<@bhanks>oh great
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02:41<Shuvo>@Zimsky. bulk mailing means i am going to host email marketing automation software & there i will send link 5000 mail per day to my customer.
02:41<Zimsky>boom.
02:41<Zimsky>someone owes me €20
02:41<@bhanks>are your emails opt-in only, and containing a working unsubscribe link?
02:42<@bhanks>Shuvo ^
02:42<Ikaros>Mmm...truthfully you might be better off with 3rd-party mailing services designed for that sort of thing.
02:42<Ikaros>I mean with that many a day anyway
02:43<Zimsky>the question is, how many customers are there?
02:44<Shuvo>@zimsky. actually the source not from opt-in form. But there must be a unsubscriber link. i don't want to go 3rd party right now
02:44<@bhanks>Shuvo is the list purchased?
02:45<Shuvo>no list is not purchased. They are our customer from main site & and we will send them offer through mail.
02:46<@bhanks>Shuvo: okay. but if your list is not opt-in ONLY you may not use Linode servers to send that mail.
02:47*Ikaros nods
02:47<@bhanks>https://www.linode.com/tos
02:47<Shuvo>but one things how can you determine my list is from opt-in or custom import?
02:48<@bhanks>well you've just told me it isn't opt-in
02:48<Ikaros>Let's just say if someone reports you and the IP ends up on spam blacklists, too.
02:48<Ikaros>There's also "honeypots" that check for that sort of thing too.
02:48<@bhanks>but otherwise, we'd definitely get spam reports and once we did I'd open a ticket asking you if it was opt-in only. even if you said yes, we'd be able to tell it wasn't based on the volume and type of complaints.
02:49<Zimsky>Ikaros likes a cheeky taste of the honey pot
02:49<Zimsky>(° ͜ʖ°)
02:49<Ikaros>Zimsky sadly my hand gets stuck in the honeypot more often than I'd like :(
02:49<Ikaros>Now then
02:49<Zimsky>perhaps ask the person whose honeypot your hand is stuck in to release it
02:50<Ikaros>A spam honeypot is what one of my servers ended up hitting one time. We actually traced the domain for the email address used to one forwarded to SORBS.
02:51<Zimsky>cheeky boy, that's top notch
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02:51<@bhanks>hm.
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02:58<Ikaros>Not that I like SORBS, they're crap. List you for just about anything even if it truly isn't spam.
02:59*Ikaros sighs
02:59*Zimsky Ikaros'
03:00<Ikaros>Think I'll just go mess around with my NVMe server a bit more. Heh. Speed man, it's what it's all about these days. Those suckers can really fly.
03:01<Zimsky>are you just a book of american film quotes
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03:13<Peng_>O_o
03:13<Peng_>Shuvo is the second person recently to try the "But you can't tell if I'm spamming or not" argument
03:14<@gjjansen>Good morning, all!
03:14<@gjjansen>If it's morning where you are, I suppose.
03:15<@bmartin>Good day fellow cretins
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03:47<linbot>New news from forum: Linux Networking • VPN Running on Centos 6 - Need to ban Torrenting <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=16101&p=76464#p76464> || Performance and Tuning • Internet <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=16072&p=76463#p76463>
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03:57<linbot>New news from forum: Web Servers and Web App Development • Can't get reverse DNS to match on deploying a second website. <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15951&p=76468#p76468> || Email/SMTP Related Forum • All messages from same email <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=16096&p=76467#p76467> || Linux Networking • redirect URL in linode manager <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=16023&p=76466#p76466> || Linux Networ
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04:07<linbot>New news from forum: Email/SMTP Related Forum • All messages from same email <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=16096&p=76471#p76471> || Linux Tips, Tricks, Tutorials • need an urgent help on how to continue from putty <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15961&p=76470#p76470> || Web Servers and Web App Development • About every 10 days Apache needs to be restarted <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=16069&p=76469#p76469
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07:48<linbot>New news from forum: Linux Networking • DNS server IP for IPSEC VPN server? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=16098&p=76472#p76472>
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07:59<sajalmustafiz>hello
07:59<sajalmustafiz>I just buy a server
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07:59<sajalmustafiz>How much time need to approve
07:59<Peng_>It depends. They'll send you an email.
08:00<sajalmustafiz>I need help to setting of the server after approve
08:00<@bmartin>Yes keep an eye on your email. You will be informed you are approved or that we need additional info to create review.
08:01<sajalmustafiz>Can you help me after confirm
08:01<Joseph>my production server says migration/maintenance starts in "starts in 5 hours 59 minutes" and i need to stop that because it is very bad timing and need to postpond that to midnight or so, how to do so?
08:01<@bmartin>We have some excellent getting started guides that can help you
08:01<Peng_>Joseph: You can do it sooner, but you can't do it later.
08:01<@bmartin>joseph do you have a ticket open with support?
08:01<Peng_>Well.
08:01<Joseph>yes but no answer and time is ticking
08:01<@bmartin>This is going to depend on whether it is Migration or just a maintenance window.
08:01<@bmartin>what is the ticket number Joseph
08:02<sajalmustafiz>Okay.
08:02<sajalmustafiz>I am new user
08:02<Joseph>ticket nr: 10417670
08:02<@bmartin>sajalmustafiz https://www.linode.com/docs/
08:03<@bmartin>responding now Joseph
08:04<Joseph>@bmartin thank you
08:05<@bmartin>sajalmustafix Please keep in mind that as an infrastructure provider, the configuration of your services on our platform is ultimately your responsibility, though we're happy to provide guidance whenever we can.
08:05<@bmartin>sajalmustafiz ^^
08:05<sajalmustafiz>ok
08:05<sajalmustafiz>I just credit 5 USD
08:05<sajalmustafiz>want to buy 5USD package
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08:06<@bmartin>Did you check your email for correspondence from us?
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08:06<@bmartin>I believe we requested some additional information before we can activate your account.
08:07<sajalmustafiz>sajalmustafiz@gmail.com is my account
08:08<sajalmustafiz>Can you please check
08:08<@bmartin>We cannot provide additional account information here in IRC. I advise you check your email and follow instructions provided by us so we may continue reviewing your account
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08:09<sajalmustafiz>I did not get any new mail
08:10<dwfreed>it could be delayed, or it could have ended up in spam
08:10<@bmartin>Check your spam folder as well. If you've still not received something you can email support@linode.com with the last 6 digits of the card on file and we can take a look for you.
08:13<sajalmustafiz>ok
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08:21<sajalmustafiz>Hi
08:21<sajalmustafiz> I got a email
08:21<sajalmustafiz>to submit some documents
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08:21<sajalmustafiz>How many image i can send
08:23<cmcfarland>@sajalmustafiz if you received an email asking for you to verify your identity, you are required to send an image of the front and back of the credit card used to signup, as well as an image of the credit card holders current government-issued photo ID. So that would make a total of three separate images.
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08:38<linbot>New news from forum: Web Servers and Web App Development • About every 10 days Apache needs to be restarted <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=16069&p=76473#p76473>
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09:50<AlexMax>How do I reach the new Linode admin dashboard?
09:50<AlexMax>I don't see the link anymore
09:51<@bmartin>hey AlexMax I'm checking on that for your now
09:51<ponas>https://cloud.linode.com ?
09:51<@bmartin>duhh yup
09:51<@bmartin>I haven't had enough coffee yet. ^^
09:52*bmartin typed it in wrong the first time :(
09:55<nate>are we not supposed to still be using manager.* ? o_O
09:55<@bmartin>No you are
09:55<@bmartin>this is more of a beta of what the new one will be
09:55<nate>ah
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09:57<smallclone>ugh, the "nanode" is in its own tab in this one
09:57<smallclone>even worse
09:58<smallclone>the new create page is very pretty though
09:59<gparent>i really dislike how the 1024 is isolated on the classic panel
10:00<smallclone>yeah don't get me started
10:00<smallclone>it's super lame
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10:06<AlexMax>oh wow, it's different
10:06<AlexMax>then when i saw it last
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10:50<klear>hi not sure if this is the right place to ask, but having an issue after a reboot of a linode, doesn't seem to be booting fully... no ssh and not getting to a prompt in lish, but have no errors https://i.imgur.com/bNcpXeg.png anyone seen something like this before?
10:51<cmcfarland>Hi @klear
10:51<cmcfarland>Are you able to open a Support ticket through your Linode Manager?
10:54<@sjacobs>that looks like redis is starting in the foreground... odd.
10:54<klear>yep, opened a ticket!
10:54<klear>just seems to hang
10:55<klear>tried connecting to the redis server from another box and that just times out
10:57<@sjacobs>lish is a screen session, so `ctrl + a` followed by a `[` should put you in copy mode and let you scroll up. might be able to see if there were any other failures before the postgres failure.
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11:09<klear>thanks @sjacobs didn't realise it was screen :) scrolling up a bit i'm getting this https://i.imgur.com/wBZn3Zy.png
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11:34<sadinoeljr>hi, good afternoon.
11:35<sadinoeljr> I registered on L and Iinode can not access.
11:36<sadinoeljr>Eu me registrei na Linode e nao estou conseguindo acessar
11:36<@bmartin>Hey there. It's possible that we've reached out via email asking for some additional info. If not please email support@linode.com with the last 6 digits of the card on file and we can have someone take a look for you.
11:38<sadinoeljr>beleza obrigado
11:38<@bmartin>No problem
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12:27<Eugene>Eveyr day I'm Linodin'
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12:47<@jalter>!point Eugene
12:47<linbot>jalter: Point given to eugene. (56) (Biggest fan: jalter, total: 23)
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13:54<Woet>jalter: you give him a point for lying and the typo'
13:54<Woet>you're the first
13:54<Woet>worst *
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13:58<@bmartin>oh no
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14:14<Zimsky>!unpoint Eugene
14:14<linbot>Zimsky: Point taken from eugene! (55)
14:14<Zimsky>!unpoint Woet
14:14<linbot>Zimsky: Point taken from woet! (15)
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14:15<Zimsky>!point cnf
14:15<linbot>Zimsky: Point given to cnf. (1)
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14:17<Ikaros>Should we start keeping a tally of precisely how many people Zimsky manages to scare out of the channel? lol
14:18<Zimsky>you're more than welcome to
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14:19<Zimsky>cnf joins and quits multiple times every day though
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14:19<Zimsky>if you get scared out of a channel because someone gives you a point, maybe IRC isn't your thing
14:20<Zimsky>should we start keeping a tally of precisely how many times Ikaros rambles on about his irc network, or how tedious his windows updates are?
14:22<Ikaros>I haven't spoken at length on either topic recently, so I dunno why you would.
14:22<Ikaros>You could start one about how often I tout my NVMe server elsewhere...but I dunno how often I'd do that either, lol
14:23<Zimsky>if we kept a tally, you would know!
14:23<Ikaros>Well then, we'll make that #1
14:24<Zimsky>excellent
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14:25<Ikaros>Also I'm gonna start yelling at people who use AES128-SHA to encrypt their SMTP traffic.
14:25<Ikaros>Because, as a security-oriented guy, that irritates the heck out of me
14:26<dwfreed>nothing wrong with AES128, and while there are collisions with sha1, finding them online is nigh impossible
14:31<Zimsky>but dwfreed I can count to 128 in my head so it can't be secure at all!
14:32<dwfreed>I can count to 4096 in my head with enough time
14:32<dwfreed>:P
14:32<Zimsky>http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/288/632/0bb.jpg
14:33<Zimsky>Ikaros: you should be using quantum safe crypto for your mail anyway
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14:43<Sudip>hi
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14:45<Zimsky>must have seen my nick in the userlist
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15:29<linbot>New news from forum: Feature Request/Bug Report • cloud init support <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15674&p=76474#p76474>
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17:49<Woet>https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=50&v=oF7FR7TjnME
17:50<@sjacobs>i missed it the first time. watching again.
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23:10<@scrane>Is this thing on?
23:10<@scrane>Yes. Gouda.
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23:19<dwfreed>scrane: no
23:19<@scrane>It's all gucci, siir.
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23:21<Zimsky>!unpoint dwfreed
23:21<linbot>Zimsky: Point taken from dwfreed! (46)
23:21<Zimsky>gouda is the shit
23:21<Zimsky>how dare you
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23:22<Zimsky>you can never have enough gouda
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