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---Logopened Wed May 09 00:00:04 2018
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00:07<alpine>they should have let him into art school. this would never have happened.
00:08<rsdehart>That's the kind of thinking that got Neville Chamberlain sent packing
00:09<alpine>maybe he should have applied to art school too
00:09<Zimsky>maybe send trump to art school before things turn awry
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00:11<FreakingOut1987>So I just migrated my server and now my mail server's ports aren't working
00:11<millisa>Why not?
00:11<Zimsky>get all the ships out of them
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00:12<alpine>iptables?
00:12<alpine>firewall?
00:12<FreakingOut1987>checked all that :|
00:13<alpine>and they work internally?
00:13<Zimsky>sounds like a job for swaks
00:13<FreakingOut1987>yessir
00:13<FreakingOut1987>telnet localhost 587 -> 220
00:14<millisa>what's the IP?
00:14<alpine>what port is that for?
00:14<FreakingOut1987>I know Linode is working on Spectre but it has been 3-4 hours now :( no response
00:14<FreakingOut1987>alpine, smtps
00:14<alpine>use an online email checker
00:15<FreakingOut1987>i'm telnetting from my dev machine
00:15<FreakingOut1987>timeouts :|
00:15<Zimsky>telnetting?
00:15<MrPPS>and telnet from localhost works?
00:15<Zimsky>nice
00:15<MrPPS>service is running?
00:15<MrPPS>firewall rules allowing necessary ports/IP's through?
00:15<MrPPS>only that service having an issue, or other services too?
00:16<alpine>on the actual machine, do a telnet again
00:16<FreakingOut1987>alpine, right I did, service is running
00:16<alpine>did you run https://mxtoolbox.com/
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00:17<alpine>just to see if other ports are open?
00:17<FreakingOut1987>https://pastebin.com/S7Py0kVd
00:17<alpine>or a port scanner
00:17<FreakingOut1987>I have ran a port scanner
00:17<FreakingOut1987>on all the ports only port 22 is open
00:18<millisa>output of 'iptables-save' in a pastebin please?
00:19<alpine>if this is a test server, reboot just to make sure everything loaded
00:19<Zimsky>try listening on port 25 with netcat and then try connecting from somewhere else
00:19<millisa>I may be blind, but I don't see the ports open in that last pastebin you put up
00:20<Zimsky>and/or nmap it again
00:20<FreakingOut1987>millisa, keep scroling down?
00:20<Zimsky>maybe also run tcpdump while sending a test message to see if you're even getting tcp segments on that port
00:20<alpine>how are you accessing the machine? ssh or the linode viewer?
00:20<FreakingOut1987>reboot did not work
00:20<FreakingOut1987>ssh
00:21<FreakingOut1987>only port 22 works
00:21<FreakingOut1987>almost like the other ports are being blocked
00:21<millisa>that is what it looks like
00:21<FreakingOut1987>was hoping someone on staff would see this an escalate lol
00:22<millisa>paste the output of iptables-save...
00:22<alpine>"Lish", that's what it is.
00:22<Zimsky>linode isn't particularly bothered by the operation of your mail server :(
00:22<alpine>we'll, this really isn't a technical support issue
00:23<alpine>$5 servers are do-it-yourself
00:23<FreakingOut1987>millisa, empty stdout
00:23<Zimsky>neither was hitler, but we still talk about him
00:23<FreakingOut1987>this mailserver is flagged by barracuda, maybe I should just gen another one lol
00:24<FreakingOut1987>IP*
00:24<rsdehart>Great, now I have Ann Wilson's voice stuck in my head
00:24<Zimsky>why
00:24<alpine>you could create another $5 server and move it over. or you could politely ask barracuda to take you off
00:25<rsdehart>Zimsky: Heart had a song called Barracuda.
00:25<Zimsky>there's a special place in hell for blacklist operators
00:25<alpine>barracuda is known for overreacting
00:26<alpine>I had an IP that was blacklisted by barracuda. I emailed them to stop. this was a few years back.
00:26<rsdehart>not that you were likely addressing me since you didn't say "enough"
00:26<FreakingOut1987>yay
00:26<FreakingOut1987>generated another one and no blacklists on my first try :D
00:26<Zimsky>rsdehart: what do you mean?
00:27<FreakingOut1987>has anyone had any problems with 18.04 LTS?
00:27<MrPPS>only with docker
00:27<rsdehart>FreakingOut1987: is 18.04.1 out yet?
00:27<FreakingOut1987>Should have been since last month
00:27<alpine>what's 18.04? ubuntu?
00:28<MrPPS>correct
00:28<alpine>so everything works now?
00:28<alpine>congratulations
00:28<FreakingOut1987>oh nvmd missed the .1
00:28<rsdehart>since when is .1 out the same month as the initial release?
00:28<rsdehart>yeah
00:28<rsdehart>I give it until .1 to update
00:29<rsdehart>let you lot work the some of the bugs out first
00:29<alpine>I was on slackware for a hundred years, but I finally switched.
00:30<FreakingOut1987>alright, biting the bullet. 18.04LTS and a new IP here we go
00:30<alpine>alright, let the next schmuck get your bad IP
00:32<FreakingOut1987>probably going to be you alpine
00:32<FreakingOut1987>paying it forward
00:32<alpine>alright!
00:33<alpine>I'm going to sign a new one every five minutes until I get your old IP
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00:34<nate>I feel like you're going to quickly discover the cost and time inefficiency of that
00:34<FreakingOut1987>last two octets: 137.223
00:34<FreakingOut1987>gl!
00:35<alpine>OK. I'll create a machine back to back without gaps. that way next month's bill will be $10000
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00:41<FreakingOut1987>ay! that's a good way to guarantee!
00:41<Zimsky>more than enough money
00:42<alpine>linode wont mind
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01:04<DaKid>Does anyone know how long it takes for LInode to start the maintenance? It says in progress, but nothing seems to have been done yet. Server is still up.
01:04<millisa>Most of mine were in the first 30 mins of when they had the start time
01:05<MrPPS>DaKid: it's a maintenance window, so theoretically any time
01:05<DaKid>Ahh, OK
01:06<dwfreed>had one the other day that didn't get powered off until 10 after
01:06<millisa>just checked my last one for tonight. was scheduled for 2 hours ago; power off was at about 13 mins after
01:07<DaKid>Fortunately our site isn't terribly busy at this hour
01:08<DaKid>But I also have to make sure everything is back up and working after migration. And I'm tired! :(
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01:09<DaKid>I shoulda just set up another server and switched it at migration. But I'm a dumb dumb.
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01:09<DaKid>And down it goes
01:12<@bhanks>DaKid yeah it should be within the first 10 minutes of your maintenance window and in most cases it will be back up within 20ish minutes :)
01:13<DaKid>Thanks.
01:13<DaKid>Big server so it'll probably be down a bit longer, but it seems to be going
01:14<Peng_>Is it a reboot or a migration?
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01:15<DaKid>migration
01:15<Peng_>Ah
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01:17<DaKid>wow
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01:21<millisa>weee!
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01:27<DaKid>Yay back up
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01:37<dcraig_>what's the best thing about linode?
01:48<MrPPS>the vps's?
01:51<Zimsky>they're not digitalocean
01:52<Ttech>i have a strange thing that keeps happening with my linode. it seems like the interface is changing
01:52<grawity>interface of what
01:52<Zimsky>wasn't someone talking about that earlier with every kernel change
01:52<FreakingOut1987>anyone here use namecheap?
01:53<Zimsky>ens4 to like ens4p01 or something
01:53<grawity>oh I thought Ttech was talking about the linode manager
01:53<Zimsky>idk maybe
01:53<Ttech>Zimsky: yes exactly
01:54<Zimsky>dunno, never experienced that; there's some way to persist it though
01:54<dwfreed>I think Linode recently changed the device model
01:54<dwfreed>yeah, disable predictable network interface names
01:54<grawity>the "predictable" naming of virtio-net has changed once or twice among systemd versions (first they used the wrong ID, then disabled entirely, then found the right ID)
01:55<grawity>I mean it's not very predictable if you ask me
01:55<dwfreed>imo it should be disabled like xen-netfront's is
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01:56<grawity>at least KVM doesn't play silly games with PCI slot IDs like real motherboards sometimes do
01:56<grawity>...it doesn't, right?
01:56<dwfreed>KVM doesn't; qemu might
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---Logopened Wed May 09 03:07:39 2018
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07:09<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • devops training in chennai <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=16131&p=76493#p76493>
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07:37<linbot>all hail mcintosh o/
07:37<@bhanks>settle down linbot
07:37<@bmartin>!towel linbot
07:37<linbot>bmartin: Point taken from linbot! (1337)
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09:27<www>1111
09:27<www>why i cant login????
09:28<www>no body here???
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09:45<pridenjellyfish>does linode managed work month to month or there is a minimal commitment
09:45<@sjacobs>it's month to month.
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09:49<pridenjellyfish>how much is the month to month managed
09:49<smallclone>$100 per Linode on your account
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09:53<smallclone>pridenjellyfish: you should make sure you understand what linode's managed plan is though..since it doesn't actually involve managing things.
09:54<pridenjellyfish>it just run checks to make sure things are working and then responds if a check fails, correct?
09:54<pridenjellyfish>it doesn't like manage resources or traffic etc is my understanding
09:54<smallclone>they'll respond and check logs, restart services etc but they're not going to change your config
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12:04<Eugene>Every day I'm Linodin'
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12:39<@jalter>!point Eugene
12:39<linbot>jalter: Point given to eugene. (60)
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12:50<dwfreed>jalter: points are meaningless if you keep doing that
12:50<@jalter>i was unaware points had any meaning
12:51<dwfreed>:P
12:51<@jalter>!point dwfreed
12:51<linbot>jalter: Point given to dwfreed. (47) (Biggest fan: mcintosh, total: 9)
12:51<dwfreed>we generally use them when somebody says something helpful
12:51<@jalter>Eugene helps me by brightening my day
12:51<smallclone>eh i'd say that has gone out the window
12:51<@jalter>!unpoint smallclone
12:51<linbot>jalter: Point taken from smallclone! (19)
12:52<@jalter>oh wait you're on my side
12:52<@jalter>!point smallclone
12:52<linbot>jalter: Point given to smallclone. (20)
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14:15<niwugow>ring!
14:16<niwugow>Let's get it started
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15:44<Eugene>!point dwfreed
15:44<linbot>Eugene: Point given to dwfreed. (48) (Biggest fan: mcintosh, total: 9)
15:44<Eugene>I'm a big fan of inflationary economies
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16:17<smallclone>Every day I'm Nanodin'
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17:00<frogzilla>hey guys, i was wondering if its ok to set up a cdn and load balancers at the same time.. will that cause any "trouble" ?
17:00<Peng_>No?
17:01<frogzilla>lol
17:01<Peng_>Wait, you asked two questions.
17:01<Peng_>Yes, No.
17:01<Peng_>Could you be more specific? What kind of problems?
17:02<frogzilla>hmmmkay..
17:02<frogzilla>oh im afraid i cant be more specific than that, thank you thou
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19:23<MrPPS>:/
19:23<MrPPS>what a weird question then
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19:37<FluffyFoxeh>can I ride two bicycles at once? will it cause any "trouble"?
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20:41<MrPPS>pretty accurate interpretation :P
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20:52<linbot>New news from forum: Web Servers and Web App Development • SSL Letsencrypt installation issue <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15935&p=76494#p76494>
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22:01<Peng_>Where did jtsage go
22:12<ericoc>!seen jtsage
22:13<ericoc>!last jtsage
22:13<ericoc>linbot hatin'
22:14<Peng_>!seen linbot
22:14<Ikaros>It's a bot, it's what it does.
22:14<Ikaros>lol
22:19<Peng_>Never mind about what I wanted to bother jtsage about.
22:19<Peng_>(It was DNS.)
22:30<ericoc>DNS is great
22:36<zifnab>it's always DNS
22:36<zifnab>except when it isn't, then it's DNS
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