| --- | Log | opened Mon May 14 00:00:11 2018 |
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| 00:14 | <warewolf> | gnah, I got bitten 2x by interface renaming due to reboot from the ApocaSpectMeltdownrelypse. First was "interfaces won't come up because they magically don't exist" and the second was "your firewall is permit any/any because your interfaces don't match" |
| 00:15 | <warewolf> | how difficult is it to switch over to grub2 on a linode from the age-old defaulti "just boot this kernel image"? Is it just as simple as grub2-install /dev/sda, making a config file, and saying "grub2" as initrd in the linode panel? |
| 00:30 | <dwfreed> | yes, but why do you want to do that? |
| 00:31 | <warewolf> | to pass 'biosdevname=0' and 'net.ifnames=0' to the kernel so I never have this happen again |
| 00:31 | <dwfreed> | ln -sv /dev/null /etc/udev/rules.d/80-net-setup-link.rules |
| 00:31 | <warewolf> | I don't ahve that file |
| 00:31 | <dwfreed> | exactly |
| 00:31 | <dwfreed> | that's the override location |
| 00:32 | <dwfreed> | the file lives in /lib/udev/rules.d |
| 00:32 | <dwfreed> | /etc/udev/rules.d files override /lib/udev/rules.d files |
| 00:32 | <warewolf> | oh shit, you're right |
| 00:32 | <warewolf> | I ran locate on that filename before, and must have typoed |
| 00:32 | <dwfreed> | there's probably also one in /lib/udev/rules.d for biosdevname |
| 00:32 | <warewolf> | I suspected it was in /usr or /lib somewhere |
| 00:33 | <warewolf> | ... queston |
| 00:33 | <warewolf> | does it have to be a softlink to /dev/null or can I just touch it? |
| 00:33 | <dwfreed> | touch works too |
| 00:33 | <warewolf> | thought as much |
| 00:33 | <dwfreed> | the symlink just ensures the file is always empty :) |
| 00:34 | <warewolf> | or that /dev/null is no longer /dev/null if something stupid follows softlinks! |
| 00:34 | <dwfreed> | would have to be *really* stupid |
| 00:34 | <warewolf> | do not underestimate me. |
| 00:35 | <Zimsky> | ok |
| 00:35 | <warewolf> | me before coffee is not a pretty sight. |
| 00:35 | <dwfreed> | because rm does not follow symlinks, and that's the only way to remove /dev/null |
| 00:36 | <warewolf> | and on that note, it's 36 min past my bedtime! |
| 00:36 | <warewolf> | dwfreed: thank you for the assist on making systemd less of a thorn in my side. |
| 00:36 | <dwfreed> | np |
| 00:37 | <dwfreed> | If you're satisfied with your support experience, don't forget to !point dwfreed |
| 00:38 | <warewolf> | uh ok |
| 00:38 | <warewolf> | !point dwfreed |
| 00:38 | <linbot> | warewolf: Point given to dwfreed. (49) (Biggest fan: mcintosh, total: 9) |
| 00:38 | <warewolf> | !set dwfreed |
| 00:38 | <warewolf> | !match dwfreed |
| 00:39 | <Zimsky> | I never thought of dwfreed as someone who would beg for points |
| 00:39 | <Zimsky> | wow |
| 00:39 | <Zimsky> | dwfreed: you're aware that the points don't actually mean anything, right? |
| 00:39 | <dwfreed> | Zimsky: which is why I want all of them |
| 00:39 | <dwfreed> | fake internet points are the best |
| 00:39 | <Zimsky> | so you want all of something that is meaningless? |
| 00:40 | <Zimsky> | don't you already have yourself |
| 00:41 | <MrPPS> | dayum |
| 00:41 | <Zimsky> | damn now I'm thinking about negative mass again |
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| 03:14 | <linbot> | New news from forum: Web Servers and Web App Development • About every 10 days Apache needs to be restarted <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=16069&p=76515#p76515> |
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| 06:28 | <chandan> | hi |
| 06:29 | <chandan> | we are getting high load avg issue in our server |
| 06:31 | <@bmartin> | Hey there chandan do you have a ticket open by chance? |
| 06:31 | <chandan> | yes already open |
| 06:34 | <@bmartin> | can you give me that ticket number so I can have someone take a look? |
| 06:34 | <chandan> | any lead |
| 06:34 | <chandan> | sure |
| 06:35 | <chandan> | [10473602] our load avg shows very high cpu |
| 06:35 | <chandan> | from yesterday we continue saw load avg reach to 1000 and again back to 250 |
| 06:35 | <chandan> | constant |
| 06:36 | <@bmartin> | Thank you. We will have someone with you very shortly |
| 06:36 | <chandan> | before update it was fine after update as per the linode is notification this happend to us |
| 06:36 | <chandan> | in our whm process log we saw this /opt/cpanel/ea-php72/root/usr/bin/php-cgi /home/publictv/public_html/index.php |
| 06:36 | <chandan> | continue |
| 06:37 | <Woet> | chandan: do you have Linode managed? |
| 06:37 | <chandan> | yes |
| 06:38 | <Woet> | chandan: they'll check then |
| 06:38 | <Woet> | chandan: are you sure? |
| 06:38 | <Woet> | chandan: you're paying $100/month for Linode managed? |
| 06:38 | <chandan> | yes |
| 06:38 | <chandan> | we paying 200 dollar a month |
| 06:38 | <chandan> | Linode 24576 - linode2712313 (2712313) 2018-03-01 00:00:00 2018-03-31 23:59:59 $0.2400 $160.00 |
| 06:38 | <chandan> | see this |
| 06:39 | <Woet> | chandan: yes.. thats a $160 Linode |
| 06:39 | <Woet> | chandan: that doesn't include Linode managed |
| 06:39 | <chandan> | please guide a support team or any chat |
| 06:39 | <Woet> | chandan: https://www.linode.com/managed |
| 06:39 | <chandan> | Linode 8192 - linode2934887 (2934887) 2018-03-01 00:00:00 2018-03-31 23:59:59 $0.0600 $40.00 |
| 06:39 | <chandan> | so total 200 dollar |
| 06:39 | <Woet> | chandan: yes.. thats a $160 Linode and a $40 Linode |
| 06:39 | <chandan> | we have 2 server |
| 06:39 | <Woet> | chandan: that doesn't include Linode managed |
| 06:39 | <Woet> | chandan: Linode managed is an additional $100/month for each Linode |
| 06:40 | <chandan> | ok |
| 06:40 | <chandan> | so now how i can fix this issue |
| 06:40 | <Woet> | chandan: unless you have managed, issues like high load are up to you to diagnose and resolve. |
| 06:40 | <Woet> | chandan: you SSH into the server, find the culprit and fix it |
| 06:40 | <chandan> | am getting this |
| 06:40 | <Woet> | chandan: most likely one of your sites got hacked and are busy brute forcing/spamming people |
| 06:40 | <chandan> | ok |
| 06:41 | <chandan> | just now i block crawler |
| 06:41 | <chandan> | and much better now |
| 06:41 | <Woet> | chandan: since you don't have managed, this is not up to Linode to look into. they only look into hardware/networking issues. |
| 06:41 | <chandan> | ok |
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| 07:47 | <rick> | hello |
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| 11:10 | <Eugene> | Every day I'm Linodin' |
| 11:10 | <@scrane> | You sit on a throne of lies! |
| 11:20 | <Woet> | !towel Eugene |
| 11:20 | <Woet> | !point scrane |
| 11:20 | <linbot> | Woet: Point taken from eugene! (59) |
| 11:20 | <linbot> | Woet: Point given to scrane. (13) |
| 11:21 | <Eugene> | At the risk of engaging a troll, I don't understand your position in the face of the facts |
| 11:22 | <Woet> | Eugene: the facts say you skip |
| 11:24 | <Eugene> | As has been covered repeatedly, the lack of announcement of an act does not mean that it did not occur: as evidenced by my continued presence here and the /whois record |
| 11:24 | <Eugene> | Neener neener |
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| 11:48 | <brunoiveo> | What happened to the api v4 guides? |
| 11:50 | <@scrane> | You should see them here https://developers.linode.com/api/v4 |
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| 12:46 | <Jehova> | Hey guys, does linode offer any plans without transfer caps? |
| 12:50 | <@scrane> | Hey Jehova, we do not offer any plans without the transfer cap. |
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| 12:51 | <Jehova> | Thanks for the answer scrane, is there a reason as to why this is the case? |
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| 12:54 | <Jehova> | I was looking for a platform to develop on, and it would involve a lot of file transfers for me.. I also wondered if that transfer cap also includes what I upload to the machine over SSH? |
| 12:55 | <@scrane> | That beign said, the transfer cap is pooled. If you have multiple Linodes, they all share the same pool. Multiple Linodes will increase the pool. For example, a 1GB Linode has a 1TB outbound transfer credit. If you have 5 1GB Linodes, there will be a 5TB total transfer pool, allowing one Linode to use up 4TB while the other 4 can use a total of 1TB combined or any combination. |
| 12:55 | <@scrane> | The transfer credit only counts the outbound traffic originating from the Linode. |
| 12:58 | <ericoc> | and inbound transfer is free? |
| 13:02 | <ericoc> | ya, you just said that, ignore me |
| 13:02 | <ericoc> | need more coffeeeeeee |
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| 13:09 | <warsylep> | hey there |
| 13:09 | <warsylep> | is there any network issues in london dc? |
| 13:09 | <@scrane> | Hey there! |
| 13:11 | <@scrane> | Hmmm I'm not entirely certain. I'd recommend opening a ticket so we can take a look and keep track of what you're seeing and make sure we're giving the most accurate information. |
| 13:12 | <warsylep> | ok, i'll do that. just wanted to be sure it wasn't some outage already known |
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| 14:00 | <Eugene> | zifnab - whatevr became of that Golang init project you started? |
| 14:00 | <Eugene> | I'm trolling at work |
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| 14:14 | <zifnab> | Eugene: it's still on GitHub I just killed the box that ran it |
| 14:14 | <zifnab> | I wanted my $5 back |
| 14:15 | <zifnab> | zifnab06.madeitwor.se/golang-init iirc |
| 14:15 | <zifnab> | ...your site has hsts but no wildcard. |
| 14:16 | <Eugene> | I stopped having a wildcard years ago with the demise of StartSSL |
| 14:16 | <Eugene> | Yes, I know, Let's Encrypt offers them now. I haven't moved this service over to Terraform yet. |
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| 14:53 | <FluffyFoxeh> | zifnab06 |
| 14:53 | <FluffyFoxeh> | is that like sonic 06 |
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| 15:47 | <@gjjansen> | Howdy 'node. |
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| 15:50 | <CornishPasty> | Ah good, Eugene is linodin' today |
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| 15:56 | <Vicky> | hello |
| 15:57 | <Vicky> | its posible use cpanel with lindode hosting? |
| 15:57 | <Vicky> | any one here? |
| 15:58 | <Vicky> | hello |
| 15:58 | <rsdehart> | Vicky: It's possible, but you're responsible for purchasing a license and installing it yourself |
| 15:58 | <rsdehart> | they don't do it for you unless you subscribed to managed service |
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| 15:59 | <millisa> | !cpanel |
| 15:59 | <linbot> | Install cPanel on CentOS: https://www.linode.com/docs/websites/cms/cpanel-on-centos Linode does not sell cPanel licenses, but it's provided free to Linode Managed customers: https://www.linode.com/managed Or try a free panel like Webmin: https://www.linode.com/docs/websites/cms/webmin-control-panel Or just use the command line: https://www.linode.com/docs/platform/linode-beginners-guide/ |
| 15:59 | <Vicky> | okay all plan vps? |
| 15:59 | <rsdehart> | thanks millisa. I never remember if the intuitive shortcut I think I remember is it or if I'm just going to look like a fool |
| 16:01 | <Vicky> | linode all paln are vps right? |
| 16:01 | <millisa> | yes |
| 16:01 | <Vicky> | KVM vps? |
| 16:01 | <@scrane> | The Linodes run on KVM |
| 16:02 | <Vicky> | company provide data backup safety? |
| 16:02 | <warewolf> | Vicky: have you looked at the website? www.linode.com |
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| 16:02 | <millisa> | !backups |
| 16:02 | <linbot> | You should probably have backups. If you don't want to set up your own, use Linode Backups. Prices start at $ 2.00/month depending on your plan. https://www.linode.com/backups |
| 16:02 | <@sjacobs> | https://www.linode.com/addons |
| 16:03 | <Vicky> | how to boost server speed with lite speed need or not? |
| 16:04 | <warewolf> | what is lite speed? |
| 16:04 | <@sjacobs> | i'm intrigued. |
| 16:04 | <@scrane> | I'm scrane |
| 16:04 | <Vicky> | https://www.litespeedtech.com |
| 16:05 | <Vicky> | read onces |
| 16:05 | <dwfreed> | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LiteSpeed_Web_Server |
| 16:05 | <warewolf> | Vicky: there are linode load balancers, etc that you can use, but this sounds like something you would have to install. |
| 16:05 | <@sjacobs> | and you are more than welcome to install it if you want. |
| 16:06 | <@sjacobs> | you'll have full root access. |
| 16:06 | <@scrane> | We don't support anything you install, but if you want to set it up and run that you can. |
| 16:06 | <warewolf> | Vicky: remember that this is a VPS service, you install the linux distribution you want, and the rest is up to you |
| 16:07 | <Vicky> | linode down time? |
| 16:08 | <@sjacobs> | guaranteed at 99.9% |
| 16:08 | <@sjacobs> | https://www.linode.com/tos point 5. |
| 16:09 | <@sjacobs> | but i would say most see better uptime than that. |
| 16:09 | <Vicky> | linode offer any free ssl? |
| 16:09 | <warewolf> | Vicky: you should check out letsencrypt.com for free ssl |
| 16:10 | <@sjacobs> | ^^ and certbot is and easy way to use them. https://certbot.eff.org/ |
| 16:10 | <warewolf> | Vicky: ... and have you looked at the website yet? You're asking a lot of questions that are answered there already. |
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| 16:12 | <@sjacobs> | a vicky was here last week asking a lot of eerily similar questions. |
| 16:15 | <warewolf> | I bet it's an indian code shop, hunting around for VPS for a client |
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| 18:05 | <ericoc> | scrane: I think we just met |
| 18:05 | <@scrane> | Yup! I think so! |
| 18:05 | <ericoc> | haha |
| 18:06 | <@gjjansen> | Sorry that was your first impression of us, ericoc |
| 18:06 | <@scrane> | Psh! He probably didn't even notice the toe shoes. |
| 18:06 | <ericoc> | o/ was going to this https://scienceontapphilly.com/ and wanted to visit |
| 18:07 | <@gjjansen> | Oh nice! That's rad. |
| 18:07 | <@scrane> | Yooooo I didn't even know about that. Bookmarking for later. |
| 18:07 | <ericoc> | (I worked @linode 2010-2012 w/ Rick) |
| 18:07 | <@gjjansen> | "The Physics of Baseball" roped me in. |
| 18:07 | <ericoc> | it’s SO crowded |
| 18:07 | <@gjjansen> | Ah! Rick doesn't hang on anymore in IRC. :( |
| 18:07 | <ericoc> | I’m on the steps out front waiting for a friend |
| 18:07 | <ericoc> | lol |
| 18:09 | <ericoc> | what’s a good bar that isn’t natl mechanics nearby |
| 18:09 | <ericoc> | so packed |
| 18:09 | <@scrane> | In Old Town? |
| 18:09 | <ericoc> | hereish |
| 18:10 | <@scrane> | Haha there's a pretty cool beer garden I've been meaning to check out at like 6th and market I think. |
| 18:10 | <ericoc> | interestingggg |
| 18:10 | <@scrane> | It's across the street from the Liberty Bell |
| 18:13 | <ericoc> | so when is Linode buying... |
| 18:13 | <@scrane> | Haha I am not certain of that. |
| 18:20 | <ericoc> | gjjansen: were you the person shaking your head like recommending against answering the door :p |
| 18:21 | <@gjjansen> | I hope I wasn't that awful. LOL |
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| 18:26 | <warewolf> | great |
| 18:26 | * | warewolf opens a support ticket |
| 18:27 | <@gjjansen> | If you're not yanking my chain, do you have a ticket number? I can take a peek. |
| 18:27 | <warewolf> | not yet, uh, and I might not be able to |
| 18:27 | <@gjjansen> | Whoops. |
| 18:27 | <warewolf> | yeah someone broke something on the new GDPR policy confirmation thing |
| 18:27 | <warewolf> | it thinks my e-mail address is invalid. It's not. |
| 18:27 | <warewolf> | it's just weird. |
| 18:27 | <@gjjansen> | oof |
| 18:28 | <dwfreed> | warewolf: let me guess, it has a +label ? |
| 18:28 | <warewolf> | so uh, whatever regex is denying plus signs and (maybe) equal signs in the "user" part of user@host.com needs to be fixed |
| 18:28 | <warewolf> | dwfreed: yessir. |
| 18:28 | <dwfreed> | oh equals signs, real fancy |
| 18:29 | <@gjjansen> | If you can't get in, you can also give us a ring. We're always here in sunny Philadelphia. |
| 18:29 | <warewolf> | oh I got in, looks like noscript didn't like ada.support? |
| 18:29 | <@gjjansen> | That's curious. |
| 18:30 | <ericoc> | (as it’s about to tstorm in phila) |
| 18:32 | <warewolf> | there we go. |
| 18:32 | <warewolf> | 10476802 |
| 18:32 | <@gjjansen> | ericoc: We're going to flood away. It's been kinda bad here for the last few days lol. |
| 18:32 | <warewolf> | it's raining cats and dogs outside here in Fairfax, VA. |
| 18:33 | <dwfreed> | fun fact: this is a valid email address: "very.(),:;<>[]\".VERY.\"very@\\ \"very\".unusual"@strange.example.com |
| 18:33 | <@scrane> | That hurts my soul |
| 18:35 | <warewolf> | I do magic on my e-mail addresses w/ business orgs, because I'm tired of e-mail addresses getting leaked |
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| 18:58 | <ericoc> | scrane: this beer garden is k |
| 18:58 | <@scrane> | Aww, onnly k? |
| 19:00 | <ericoc> | my onion rings are like |
| 19:00 | <ericoc> | room temperature |
| 19:05 | <@scrane> | disappointed! |
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| 19:24 | <Eugene> | dwfreed - no it isn't; example.com is on the Reserved list ;-) |
| 19:24 | <Woet> | ;-) |
| 19:24 | <Eugene> | OTOH, sdfsjdhfjsa@eugene.kashpureff.org is valid |
| 19:25 | <nate> | I imagine technically email addresses to example.com -could- still work, if they actually had email |
| 19:25 | <nate> | (I'd be surprised if they have MX records configured though) |
| 19:26 | <warewolf> | I've got e-mail addresses like bobsbigburgers+ATPuIg==@mydomain.com |
| 19:29 | <Peng_> | !dns6 example.com mx |
| 19:29 | <linbot> | Peng_: The DNS response does not contain an answer to the question: example.com. IN MX |
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| 19:47 | <dwfreed> | Eugene: syntactically valid |
| 19:48 | <Eugene> | I would fail a parser that claimed example.com was valid, because its on The List. |
| 19:49 | <Eugene> | example.com also lacks a MX record, and strange.example.com is NXDOMAIN. So any real-world check is also fail |
| 19:50 | <Eugene> | TBQH, I've learned to never ever trust anything involving email address parsing. If you're not sure if its a valid email, just try to send the damn thing and see if hte user clicks the link |
| 19:50 | <Eugene> | If they don't, fuck 'em. So what if its caught in their spam filter? You're not the one with a stupid email address |
| 19:51 | <Eugene> | Alternately: don't use email as a primary identifier, stupid |
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| 19:52 | <Eugene> | FWIW, this is the List I mean: https://www.iana.org/domains/reserved |
| 19:54 | <Eugene> | (summarized a different way: your Parser should be aware of ALL email-related RFCs, not just the one that defines what is allowed to come before the @) |
| 19:55 | <Eugene> | (or it should just give up and let the real world figure it out for you) |
| 19:55 | <gparent> | I just email dwfreed and ask him to validate each address my software receives as input. |
| 19:55 | <dwfreed> | gparent: :3 |
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| 21:29 | <MajObviousman> | gparent: you too?!? I thought I was the only one |
| 21:29 | <MajObviousman> | good thing he never sleeps |
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| 22:15 | <warewolf> | good times is UTF8 encoded user@host, e.g. SMTPUTF8. |
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| 22:48 | <vikipedia> | hello, what's the iops of the ssd provided by linode, thanks! |
| 22:55 | <dwfreed> | potato |
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| 23:02 | <Ikaros> | gg dwfreed |
| 23:03 | <Zimsky> | very rude |
| 23:03 | <@gjjansen> | Is that imperial or metric, dwfreed? |
| 23:03 | <relidy> | !point dwfreed |
| 23:03 | <linbot> | relidy: Point given to dwfreed. (50) (Biggest fan: mcintosh, total: 9) |
| 23:03 | <Zimsky> | !towel relidy |
| 23:03 | <linbot> | Zimsky: Point taken from relidy! (11) |
| 23:03 | <relidy> | !boo Zimsky |
| 23:03 | <linbot> | relidy: Point taken from zimsky! (-1) |
| 23:04 | <@bhanks> | hm |
| 23:04 | <@gjjansen> | hm |
| 23:04 | <linbot> | him |
| 23:05 | <Zimsky> | هم |
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