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| 00:08 | <Eugene> | Every day I'm Linodin' |
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| 00:31 | <linbot> | New news from forum: General Discussion • astrologie et sciences humaines <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=16242&p=76631#p76631> |
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| 01:02 | <millisa> | oooh. an amd proc |
| 01:02 | <dwfreed> | O.o |
| 01:02 | <millisa> | model name : AMD EPYC 7451 24-Core Processor |
| 01:02 | <dwfreed> | on a linode? O.o |
| 01:02 | <millisa> | yep |
| 01:03 | <millisa> | dfw host after the free upgrade |
| 01:03 | <dwfreed> | ...interesting |
| 01:03 | <dwfreed> | that'll break people's stuff in fun ways |
| 01:03 | <millisa> | only spotted one of them; 1gb nanode |
| 01:07 | <dwfreed> | two of those processors from newegg is 5,200 |
| 01:08 | <millisa> | it's almost enough for factorio |
| 01:08 | <eagles051387> | morning all |
| 01:08 | <eagles051387> | hey dwfreed :) |
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| 01:08 | <dwfreed> | I wish factorio could thread more |
| 01:08 | <eagles051387> | dwfreed: you play it i just got it as well on sunday :) |
| 01:16 | <millisa> | I might have a problem. https://i.imgur.com/qAOiqfh.png |
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| 01:29 | <dwfreed> | millisa: only when that reaches 8,760 |
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| 01:31 | <millisa> | I probably should have put 'Factorio' on my tax return... |
| 01:34 | <Eugene> | Wow, you've got me beat. |
| 01:34 | <Eugene> | Congrats |
| 01:35 | <Eugene> | Though I guess I did also develop a Stellaris hbit |
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| 03:04 | <Winter> | Hello |
| 03:04 | <Winter> | Is anybody there to answer some questions on payment? |
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| 03:09 | * | dcraig tickles guest3390 around a bit with a large wrymouth |
| 03:09 | <@bhanks> | Guest3390 what questions do you have? |
| 03:12 | <Woet> | specifically, what questions do you have that aren't addressed by https://www.linode.com/docs/platform/billing-and-payments/ |
| 03:13 | * | dcraig submits payment to woet |
| 03:13 | <Woet> | dcraig: thanks, here's your renewed fishing license |
| 03:14 | <dcraig> | great, just what the doctor ordered |
| 03:15 | <Woet> | you're a doctor? |
| 03:15 | <Zimsky> | yes |
| 03:16 | <Woet> | you just fiddle with dead bodies |
| 03:16 | <Woet> | i was asking dcraig |
| 03:17 | <Zimsky> | he could be a doctor of philosophy |
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| 03:22 | <Zimsky> | Woet: as a fivespirit dolphinkin, do you still find oppression and xenophobic behaviour towards you? |
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| 03:26 | <Woet> | Zimsky: I just spray them using my blowhole |
| 03:26 | <koko> | hi, |
| 03:27 | <koko> | when you say 1 cpu core do you mean 1 virtual cpu or one real CPU core? |
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| 03:38 | <Woet> | bye |
| 03:41 | <dcraig> | yeah I'm the doctor of philosophy |
| 03:41 | <Zimsky> | >the |
| 03:43 | <dcraig> | what is the meaning of linode |
| 03:43 | <Zimsky> | it's a point that tells fibs |
| 03:44 | <Zimsky> | a lie node |
| 03:44 | <Zimsky> | or a point made of NaOH |
| 03:44 | <dcraig> | I thought it was pronounced leh-node |
| 03:44 | <Zimsky> | lenode |
| 03:45 | <Zimsky> | le neckus beardus |
| 03:47 | <rsdehart> | I thought dcraig was banished to the outer rim |
| 03:47 | * | dcraig explores rsdehart's outer rim |
| 03:48 | <rsdehart> | dcraig: enough |
| 03:48 | <dcraig> | ok |
| 03:48 | <rsdehart> | I'd ask where you've been but I dont' think i want to know |
| 03:48 | <dcraig> | just busy workin |
| 03:49 | <dcraig> | gotta pay the rent |
| 03:49 | <Zimsky> | dcraig: did you get a job in the outer rim? |
| 03:49 | <dcraig> | feels like it |
| 03:51 | <Zimsky> | feels? |
| 03:52 | <dcraig> | yes? :P |
| 03:52 | <dcraig> | I'm taking a month off though |
| 03:54 | <Zimsky> | I wonder if there were unemployment benefits in the empire |
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| 04:18 | <rsdehart> | I expected the empire had full employment |
| 04:19 | <rsdehart> | don't have a job? Come be fodder! Sign up at your local storm trooper recruiting station |
| 04:23 | <nate> | I'd do it, but only cause I'm a good shot which probably means an immediate promotion :P |
| 04:23 | <cmcfarland> | I'd be a scout trooper |
| 04:23 | <Ikaros> | Nerds. |
| 04:23 | <Ikaros> | >.> |
| 04:23 | <rsdehart> | nate: not according to the theory that they missed on purpose |
| 04:24 | <nate> | rsdehart: It's technically a canon theory if you still accept the EU canon, but there was also more than just simple storm troopers in the EU Too |
| 04:24 | <nate> | :P |
| 04:25 | <Zimsky> | Ikaros: get the fuck out |
| 04:25 | <Zimsky> | seriously |
| 04:25 | <Zimsky> | like, leave IRC |
| 04:25 | <Zimsky> | or don't, it's up to you |
| 04:26 | <@bhanks> | enough |
| 04:26 | <Zimsky> | *cowers in the corner* |
| 04:26 | <Zimsky> | rsdehart: where is this "missing on purpose" theory |
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| 04:27 | <Ikaros> | And why would I do that, exactly? I have a simpler solution. |
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| 04:29 | <Zimsky> | hitler had a simple solution too |
| 04:30 | <Ikaros> | I don't see any relevance. But w/e. Moving on. |
| 04:37 | <Ikaros> | Any particular reason why I'd be inclined to take advantage of a plan upgrade that only offers me disk space that I really don't even need? :P |
| 04:38 | <rsdehart> | did they only offer it to you? |
| 04:38 | <Ikaros> | No I mean I saw the "free upgrade" button appear, I clicked, saw the only benefit in my case at least was just a disk space increase...and truth be told it's not really space I need. |
| 04:39 | <Ikaros> | I mean that and I had just gone through downtime with the Spectre patching. |
| 04:39 | <Ikaros> | So I didn't want more downtime so soon just for more disk space + doing the resize |
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| 04:54 | <jaskal> | 1 |
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| 04:59 | <jaskal> | missed a leading slash :) |
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| 05:43 | <khoerulamri> | good afternoon |
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| 08:10 | <u0_a146> | hi |
| 08:10 | <u0_a146> | any body |
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| 08:15 | <u0_a146> | hi |
| 08:16 | <u0_a146> | pls people i need help |
| 08:17 | <Zimsky> | and what do you need help with |
| 08:20 | <u0_a146> | are you into computing |
| 08:21 | <Zimsky> | possibly |
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| 08:26 | <@bhanks> | this is a good starting point for the conversation |
| 08:27 | <warewolf> | I computer professionally. |
| 08:29 | <ericoc> | how2 kompewter |
| 08:31 | <Zimsky> | https://www.reddit.com/r/Ooer/ |
| 08:31 | <Zimsky> | plz to help |
| 08:34 | <warewolf> | neato https://www.reddit.com/r/linode/ exists |
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| 09:24 | <byziad> | Hey Guys |
| 09:26 | <byziad> | I just installed my Wordpress site on Linode and encountering this issue "The requested URL was not found on this server error" . It isn't happening on the Home page. |
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| 09:57 | <Banana> | Good Day Everyone |
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| 10:10 | <@scrane> | Hello Banana! |
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| 10:14 | <Banana> | :) |
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| 10:16 | <GLM> | f |
| 10:17 | <GLM> | hello |
| 10:17 | <@scrane> | Hey there GLM! |
| 10:17 | <Banana> | Hello! |
| 10:35 | <GLM> | Do you have any solution for this? [FAILED] Failed to start Raise network interfaces. |
| 10:35 | <GLM> | ping -c 3 8.8.8.8 |
| 10:36 | <GLM> | connect: Network is unreachable |
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| 10:39 | <@scrane> | Yes! Just one second and I can send you a good bit about this from our Community Site |
| 10:40 | <@scrane> | https://www.linode.com/community/questions/323/my-linode-is-unreachable-after-maintenance |
| 10:41 | <@scrane> | Look for the header that mentions that error, and there should be a decent amount of information there to help point you in the right direction |
| 10:57 | <GLM> | i ran all of the commands |
| 10:57 | <@scrane> | Still nothing? |
| 10:58 | <GLM> | i think it was because sendmail... but not sure |
| 10:58 | <GLM> | it is working now |
| 10:58 | <GLM> | thanks a lot |
| 10:58 | <@scrane> | Excellent! |
| 10:58 | <@scrane> | Glad I could help |
| 10:59 | <GLM> | i submitted tickets, but 3 hours no response... and i had no backup...live sites |
| 10:59 | <GLM> | thank you |
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| 11:50 | <Seb__> | hi there where can I ask question about pricing? |
| 11:50 | <Zimsky> | anywhere |
| 11:50 | <relidy> | !ask |
| 11:50 | <linbot> | If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read http://alexfornuto.com/how-to-ask-for-help-on-irc/ |
| 11:52 | <Seb__> | all right :) I just wanted to know how upgrading / downgrading works |
| 11:52 | <Seb__> | from one plan to another |
| 11:53 | <Peng_> | Do you have a more specific question? You can upgrade and downgrade, and fees are prorated. |
| 11:53 | <Zimsky> | you upgrade, you downgrade, you regrade, you gatorade |
| 11:55 | <Seb__> | All right, so there's no extra fees for upgrading and downgrading between plans. I just wanted to confirm that since I'm currently at GoDaddy and upgrading from one plan to another would cost more than buying a whole new plan |
| 11:56 | <Peng_> | That sounds awful. o_O |
| 11:57 | <@sjacobs> | there is no charge to upgrade or downgrade. an example is if you spend half the month on a $5.00 plan, and upgrade to a $10 plan, you would be invoiced for $7.50. |
| 11:58 | <Seb__> | perfect, a lot for the support |
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| 12:32 | <millisa> | would it really be $7.50 though? Neither plan would hit the monthly cap in that example. |
| 12:32 | <Peng_> | Plus it would be rounded up one cent right |
| 12:33 | <millisa> | 15*24*$.0075 + 15*24*$.015 = $2.7 + $5.4 = $8.1 (for a 30 day month) |
| 12:34 | <millisa> | if you guys do a prorated monthly cap, I'll be most impressed |
| 12:35 | <Eugene> | Every day I'm Linodin' |
| 12:35 | <Eugene> | I can confirm that they do not in fact do a Monthly cap if you resize. I've noted it several times on my bill when readjusting a machine |
| 12:35 | <Eugene> | It shows up as X hours of size A and Y hours of size B, two separate line items |
| 12:36 | <millisa> | that's how I've seen it. |
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| 12:52 | <@sjacobs> | thanks for clarifying. noted. i questioned that myself after responding. |
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| 17:08 | <Demo> | hey guys, I work in a store, there's been no audio for 3 months. The old CD Changer has basically blown up, was on nearly everyday since 1996. |
| 17:09 | <Demo> | I'm looking at implementing a cheap alternative, as management won't pay as they've 'overspent' I'd have to pay personally for this. |
| 17:10 | <@sjacobs> | are the cost of compact discs putting a hurting on their bottom line? |
| 17:10 | <relidy> | Demo: https://store.google.com/product/chromecast_audio |
| 17:10 | <Demo> | sjacobs: head office sent them discs every quarter, without deducing their stores budget |
| 17:10 | <Demo> | the place is literally going to ruins. |
| 17:11 | <Demo> | relidy: perfect solution! |
| 17:11 | <Demo> | relidy: would I be able to burn the compacts to the cast? |
| 17:12 | <Demo> | Oh I see how it works now, like a traditional cast, that's great, I can put the music onto my phone and go from there. |
| 17:13 | <Demo> | Thanks so much. |
| 17:14 | <@mcintosh> | !point relidy |
| 17:14 | <linbot> | mcintosh: Point given to relidy. (12) |
| 17:15 | <dwfreed> | > burn the compacts to the cast |
| 17:15 | <dwfreed> | ohdear |
| 17:16 | <Demo> | !point relidy |
| 17:16 | <linbot> | Demo: Point given to relidy. (13) |
| 17:16 | <Demo> | dwfreed: it's late here, you knew what I meant. |
| 17:17 | <relidy> | Heh, thanks. Hopefully that works out. It's hard to beat $35 if you have something that can cast to it. |
| 17:17 | <relidy> | (Or you could just buy a cheap CD player and keep motoring on with the CDs) |
| 17:18 | <Demo> | relidy: I may get the contents list of the CDs and make a spotify playlist to match. |
| 17:20 | <Demo> | relidy: I'd rather not, the sales have decreased rapidly since the music has stopped. |
| 17:22 | <frogzilla> | can i share some magic ? :D |
| 17:22 | <Demo> | of course |
| 17:22 | <frogzilla> | but we need more people Demo :/ otherwise it wont be funny |
| 17:23 | <frogzilla> | hey guys! ^0^ roooar! would you like to see a magic trick? |
| 17:23 | * | relidy shrugs |
| 17:24 | <frogzilla> | ok lets do it v.v we're enough |
| 17:24 | <frogzilla> | 1 sec pleae v.v |
| 17:25 | <frogzilla> | https://bit.ly/2IJwQ3e <--- without reading around youtube comments (and im watching you <.< ) listen, and than write here what you hear :D |
| 17:26 | <frogzilla> | oh maybe i should have linked youtube directly.. :/ here you go https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LP36td1bHE4 ( hopefully this is permitted here on chat ) |
| 17:27 | <frogzilla> | :< frogever alone ... |
| 17:29 | * | frogzilla goes back to the ocean... |
| 17:30 | <relidy> | Sorry, hard to get excited over Yanny vs. Laural. |
| 17:31 | <relidy> | Wired has a YouTube video that does a pretty good job of explaining it, if you're interested. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3km896XZ-J0 |
| 17:32 | <frogzilla> | :< ive watched it.. but i thought it would have been nice to do it here in the chat |
| 17:33 | <frogzilla> | at least i got a reply ^0^ thanks relidy... |
| 17:34 | <relidy> | !point frogzilla |
| 17:34 | <linbot> | relidy: Point given to frogzilla. (1) |
| 17:34 | <frogzilla> | my first point :'( |
| 17:34 | <frogzilla> | !<3 relidy |
| 17:34 | <linbot> | frogzilla: ♥ |
| 17:35 | <frogzilla> | ill keep muto away from you, i promise v.v |
| 17:36 | <@scrane> | Alright I'll listen. |
| 17:36 | <frogzilla> | 0.0 oh my godzilla! <3 |
| 17:36 | <@scrane> | "Remember to drink your ovaltine" Huh. |
| 17:36 | <frogzilla> | ooook :3 i will... |
| 17:36 | <frogzilla> | what do you hear now? >.> |
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| 20:23 | <ryu> | question i have a query that times out when running it's running on a table with like 100mill rows anyway to like go around that |
| 20:34 | <dwfreed> | optimize the query |
| 20:40 | <millisa> | using 'explain' might help you figure out what to address first |
| 20:43 | <millisa> | if you haven't seen it, there's also - https://www.linode.com/docs/databases/mysql/how-to-optimize-mysql-performance-using-mysqltuner/ which has some general performance tuning and talks about one of the helper scripts |
| 20:58 | <AlexMax> | Question |
| 20:58 | <AlexMax> | What is a normal amount of steal% |
| 20:58 | <AlexMax> | and when should I be worried |
| 20:58 | <AlexMax> | also holy cow, I've got a load average of 12, 10 and 18, but very low CPU usage |
| 20:59 | <millisa> | load doesn't necessarily equate to cpu |
| 20:59 | <Ikaros> | ^ |
| 20:59 | <millisa> | if you share any of my hosts, then don't worry about steal. 70% is just fine. |
| 21:00 | <AlexMax> | well, the only reason I'm looking at the server is because my players were complaining about the server feeling jittery |
| 21:00 | <Ikaros> | Hmm. |
| 21:00 | <Ikaros> | What plan do you have? |
| 21:01 | <AlexMax> | 4096 |
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| 21:01 | <millisa> | (I rarely see over 5%, and even when it shows up that high, it doesn't last long) |
| 21:03 | <AlexMax> | i should probably upgrade my linux distro |
| 21:03 | <AlexMax> | it's debian 7 |
| 21:03 | <AlexMax> | old |
| 21:03 | <Ikaros> | To be perfectly honest, the way you make it sound is that you're running a game server, so let me ask you this - is this a typical load for you or is it the first time you've noticed this? |
| 21:04 | <AlexMax> | Ikaros: My players have always complained about server feel on occasion, but it seems like since the spectre migration their complaints have become more frequent |
| 21:04 | <AlexMax> | the trouble is that it's very subjective |
| 21:05 | <AlexMax> | the server could ping fine, have steady CPU and load average and not be overstressed |
| 21:05 | <millisa> | what's the game? |
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| 21:05 | <AlexMax> | but if the timing is off, players notice |
| 21:05 | <AlexMax> | millisa: Zandronum. A doom source port. |
| 21:05 | <Ikaros> | Yeah perhaps you're feeling some impact from it. I mean, you have an older distro, so likely an older kernel, and you're running off 2 CPU cores on top of that. So I'd start by upgrading the distro version first. |
| 21:06 | <AlexMax> | Zandronum's netcode is very primitive and ugly |
| 21:06 | <AlexMax> | and the underlying gamesim runs at 35 tics per second |
| 21:06 | <Ikaros> | At the very least you'll get the benefit of updated system libraries and whatnot |
| 21:06 | <AlexMax> | yeah |
| 21:06 | <Ikaros> | Obviously, be sure to read Debian's guide to upgrading first |
| 21:07 | <AlexMax> | but I have a lot of stuff on this server, and setting up the new server to be just so will require some time and effort :P |
| 21:07 | <Ikaros> | And I mean before you even touch anything, lulz |
| 21:07 | <AlexMax> | to be honest, I want to get a fresh install |
| 21:07 | <Ikaros> | Ah. |
| 21:07 | <AlexMax> | my current install is some weird franken-install |
| 21:07 | <AlexMax> | it started out as a 32-bit userland |
| 21:07 | <MrPPS> | oh I had one of those |
| 21:07 | <MrPPS> | haha |
| 21:07 | <MrPPS> | eventually got too painful to manage |
| 21:07 | <AlexMax> | and now I have both 32 and 64 bit userland |
| 21:07 | <Ikaros> | So you want to wipe clean and start fresh with a new up-to-date instance? |
| 21:08 | <AlexMax> | yeah |
| 21:08 | <AlexMax> | I know how |
| 21:08 | <AlexMax> | It's just going to be a lot of work |
| 21:08 | <Ikaros> | Heh I don't doubt you do, and you're right. |
| 21:08 | <Ikaros> | So adequate planning. |
| 21:09 | <AlexMax> | and I'm not 100% sure how I even want to manage things |
| 21:10 | <AlexMax> | I was considering going a container route |
| 21:10 | <AlexMax> | but the thing is, I use one binary to run dozens of servers at this moment |
| 21:10 | <Eugene> | I've been happy with Terraform for provisioning + Salt for config-management |
| 21:10 | <AlexMax> | and some servers use sqlite3, which I'm not 100% sure how it behaves on a shared docker instance |
| 21:11 | <AlexMax> | they warn you repeatedly against using stuff like NFS |
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| 21:12 | <uriah> | Hi |
| 21:12 | <millisa> | greetings |
| 21:12 | <uriah> | holla ? |
| 21:16 | <Eugene> | This ain't no holla back node |
| 21:17 | <uriah> | i dont understand u ? O.O |
| 21:19 | <millisa> | uriah: did you have a question or want to talk about linodes? |
| 21:20 | <uriah> | no thx |
| 21:21 | <MrPPS> | no please |
| 21:21 | <uriah> | im noob hh xD |
| 21:21 | <Eugene> | AlexMax - re: cpu steal and high-resolution timing. I've tried running game servers on Linodes (Factorio most recently) and other Virt platforms; most of them just don't work out. It's not the steal % that gets you, but the re-scheduling of threads between cores on the host CPU, or any other dozen things. The only thing that seems to work reliably is old-fashioned hardware. |
| 21:22 | <Eugene> | Noisy neighbors are also a pain in the butt.... of course, some of the things I've done in testing made ME that neighbor, so YMMV |
| 21:24 | <Peng_> | One of my Linode has 5% steal. It sucks, but I'm the noisy neighbor, so what can I say? :P |
| 21:24 | <uriah> | what is (linode) ? |
| 21:25 | <Peng_> | One of my [enemy VPS] has horrifically bad steal |
| 21:25 | <MrPPS> | uriah: Linode is a VPS host |
| 21:25 | <MrPPS> | unmanaged |
| 21:25 | <MrPPS> | uriah: see linode.com |
| 21:25 | <uriah> | ok thanks |
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| 21:26 | <Peng_> | uriah: Look at the top of your screen |
| 21:26 | <uriah> | Peng: what ? |
| 21:29 | <MrPPS> | uriah: the topic |
| 21:29 | <MrPPS> | it refers to linode etc |
| 21:31 | <uriah> | xD |
| 21:35 | <uriah> | any one here is from afreca ? |
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| 21:39 | <uriah> | • Your credit card was declined. Please contact your bank for additional information. |
| 21:39 | <uriah> | why ? |
| 21:40 | <MrPPS> | goeie dag, meneer! |
| 21:40 | <MrPPS> | Possible reasons could include bank blocking transaction from another country, insufficient funds, things like that |
| 21:41 | <MrPPS> | Could always contact the bank and ask :) |
| 21:41 | <uriah> | fuck it and fuck egypt |
| 21:41 | <MrPPS> | whoah |
| 21:41 | <MrPPS> | ? |
| 21:42 | <uriah> | what ? |
| 21:43 | <MrPPS> | where'd that comment come from, and what does it have to do with any of what you just said? |
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| 21:45 | <uriah> | comment come from egypt ! |
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| 21:51 | <big_bro> | any one here? |
| 21:51 | <big_bro> | any Official staff here? |
| 21:52 | <Peng_> | Usually. Why do you ask? |
| 21:53 | <big_bro> | dude are you form china |
| 21:53 | <Peng_> | I'm afraid not |
| 21:53 | <big_bro> | from |
| 21:54 | <big_bro> | peng ,it is like a chinese name,sorry bro |
| 21:55 | <big_bro> | shit happened， forget my linode password,also forget my rigister email password |
| 21:56 | <millisa> | https://www.linode.com/docs/platform/accounts-and-passwords/#resetting-your-linode-manager-password |
| 21:56 | <big_bro> | millisa thanks |
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| 22:36 | <Peng_> | 100.0% CPU usage, 0.0% steal. Either my counters are broken or this host is lightly loaded. :D |
| 22:38 | <AlexMax> | Eugene: Yeah, I was able to confirm this firsthand, honestly. |
| 22:38 | <AlexMax> | I wrote a program that runs in a tight loop and repeatedly polls the monotonic high-resolution timer |
| 22:39 | <AlexMax> | and had it printf anytime there was a >1ms slip |
| 22:40 | <AlexMax> | On real hardware, there was almost never any problems, but on most virtual machines I tried slips of 2-3ms were regular |
| 22:42 | <AlexMax> | Linode included |
| 22:42 | <dwfreed> | that's the nature of virtualization |
| 22:43 | <AlexMax> | yeah, I run Windows on my home machine and was going to test it before realizing that I'd be running the test binary in a Virtualbox VM |
| 22:43 | <dwfreed> | WSL |
| 22:44 | <AlexMax> | not sure I could trust WSL |
| 22:44 | <dwfreed> | WSL is basically the reverse of Wine |
| 22:44 | <AlexMax> | WSL isn't Linux, it's a reimplementation |
| 22:44 | <rsdehart> | your bias is showing |
| 22:45 | <rsdehart> | if it were me I'd be keen to test it just to have the evidence against it |
| 22:49 | <AlexMax> | I also wouldn't expect Wine to behave exactly like Windows either |
| 22:50 | <AlexMax> | I also didn't want to install WSL just to test that one thing |
| 22:50 | <rsdehart> | oh, well that's a big hindrance |
| 22:50 | <AlexMax> | I don't need a linux environment. I already have multiple VPS's that I can access from anywhere |
| 22:50 | <rsdehart> | yeah, so do I. I still like a local one |
| 22:50 | <AlexMax> | so I don't need a local one |
| 22:50 | <AlexMax> | If I want a local one, I want the whole thing |
| 22:51 | <rsdehart> | what is WSL missing in particular? |
| 22:51 | <rsdehart> | I guess I mainly use it to ssh |
| 22:51 | <AlexMax> | I want a hardware-accelerated desktop |
| 22:51 | <AlexMax> | that's something I can't get with a Linode |
| 22:51 | <rsdehart> | I see. I use windows for my desktop |
| 22:51 | <AlexMax> | and there is - occasionally - a need for such an environment |
| 22:52 | <jfred[m]> | My main issue with it is its lack of smartcard support |
| 22:52 | <jfred[m]> | I use yubikeys for SSH auth and if I had to use windows I'd want that to still work |
| 22:52 | <AlexMax> | but not often enough for me to install linux on bare metal |
| 22:53 | <AlexMax> | as for normal desktop use, I use the roman proverb |
| 22:53 | <AlexMax> | When in rome, do as the romans do |
| 22:53 | <AlexMax> | in other words, when on Windows, do as Windows users do |
| 22:53 | <rsdehart> | you're defending your use of Windows by describing behavior on Windows? |
| 22:54 | <rsdehart> | too deep recursion. core dumped |
| 22:54 | <millisa> | You mean 'Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabris, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam '? |
| 22:54 | <AlexMax> | I don't like using "unix-alikes" in a windows environment |
| 22:54 | <rsdehart> | why not? |
| 22:54 | <AlexMax> | because the two environments just don't mix |
| 22:54 | <rsdehart> | ok |
| 22:55 | <AlexMax> | I think the WSL home directory is still hidden because trying to open stuff in the WSL mount from Win32-land causes a big kaboom |
| 22:55 | <rsdehart> | cool. I use what works best for me |
| 22:55 | <AlexMax> | same |
| 22:56 | <AlexMax> | I don't hate linux |
| 22:56 | <AlexMax> | on the contrary |
| 23:00 | <AlexMax> | I just wouldn't trust WSL 100% to behave like actual Linux - and Virtualbox is a virtual machine, thus unsuitable for tests. I just pastebinned the program and asked a friend who did run linux on bare metal to compile+run it. |
| 23:01 | <rsdehart> | where is this intended to be deployed? |
| 23:01 | <AlexMax> | oh, it's literally just a page-long binary that runs in a tight loop and tests to see if there is any >1ms slip between polls |
| 23:02 | <AlexMax> | s/binary/c program |
| 23:02 | <rsdehart> | right, I got that |
| 23:02 | <AlexMax> | If I get slippage, then it follows that the game I host will also "jerk" |
| 23:02 | <AlexMax> | potentially |
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