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| 00:29 | <vineesh> | hello |
| 00:30 | <millisa> | greetings |
| 00:30 | <vineesh> | are you providing vps or dedicated |
| 00:30 | <millisa> | Linodes are vps |
| 00:31 | <vineesh> | ok, did you provide complete root access |
| 00:31 | <Peng_> | Yes |
| 00:32 | <vineesh> | whm and cpanel is in package or not? |
| 00:32 | <Woet> | no. |
| 00:32 | <millisa> | !cpanel |
| 00:32 | <linbot> | Install cPanel on CentOS: https://www.linode.com/docs/websites/cms/cpanel-on-centos Linode does not sell cPanel licenses, but it's provided free to Linode Managed customers: https://www.linode.com/managed Or try a free panel like Webmin: https://www.linode.com/docs/websites/cms/webmin-control-panel Or just use the command line: https://www.linode.com/docs/platform/linode-beginners-guide/ |
| 00:32 | <vineesh> | checking links wait |
| 00:33 | <Woet> | the answer is no |
| 00:33 | <Woet> | its not. |
| 00:35 | <vineesh> | managed plan is available or not? |
| 00:36 | <MrPPS> | vineesh: managed plan is available, which includes a license for cpanel, yes |
| 00:36 | <Woet> | for $100 per month extra |
| 00:37 | <vineesh> | Linode 8GB i interested this plan managed cpanel, how much cost |
| 00:37 | <Woet> | https://www.linode.com/pricing |
| 00:37 | <Woet> | + [12:36:53] <Woet> for $100 per month extra |
| 00:37 | <Peng_> | It's not fully managed though |
| 00:37 | <vineesh> | 100 extra |
| 00:37 | <millisa> | per linode in the account |
| 00:38 | <MrPPS> | vineesh: for managed, yes |
| 00:39 | <vineesh> | in cpanel fee showing only $20 on thier site monthly |
| 00:39 | <vineesh> | then why not you asking 100 extra |
| 00:39 | <millisa> | you can get your own cpanel license |
| 00:40 | <millisa> | you can likely find it for closer to 13-14 bucks if you shop around |
| 00:40 | <Woet> | vineesh: because it comes with managed. |
| 00:40 | <millisa> | you'll just have to do the install yourself |
| 00:42 | <vineesh> | $40/mo for hosting spce |
| 00:42 | <vineesh> | then cpanel license 20 |
| 00:42 | <vineesh> | total 60 |
| 00:43 | <Zimsky> | assuming 40 + 20 = 60 |
| 00:44 | <Woet> | vineesh: and then its up to you to install, configure, maintain and manage your VPS. |
| 00:44 | <zifnab> | Zimsky: what if it's base 40 |
| 00:44 | <zifnab> | ...i mean base 6, obviously |
| 00:44 | <zifnab> | or base 4! |
| 00:45 | <Zimsky> | then you calculate it the same? |
| 00:45 | <zifnab> | but if this is a base 4 system, the answer would be 210 |
| 00:45 | <Zimsky> | there you go |
| 00:47 | <vineesh> | yes |
| 00:47 | <zifnab> | it's actually wrong, it can't be base 4 |
| 00:47 | <zifnab> | 4 is not a valid number in base 4 |
| 00:47 | <zifnab> | if it's base 5 however, 110 would be accurate. |
| 00:47 | * | zifnab goes to sleep now |
| 00:48 | <vineesh> | now i am using cloud hosting from siteground |
| 00:48 | <Zimsky> | unless you describe the nature of the base 4 system using base10 |
| 00:48 | <Zimsky> | which is what you did, zifnab |
| 00:48 | <Zimsky> | must everything be explained to you? |
| 00:48 | <zifnab> | well, no, valid digits in base 4 are 0, 1, 2, 3 |
| 00:48 | <vineesh> | i want to decrease cost thats why i checked your site |
| 00:48 | <Woet> | vineesh: except siteground is fully managed |
| 00:48 | <Woet> | vineesh: and Linode, even for $100 a month extra, is not. |
| 00:49 | <Woet> | vineesh: so perhaps you should compare oranges to oranges. |
| 00:50 | <vineesh> | so 100 for managed and 40 for hosting total 140 |
| 00:51 | <vineesh> | send me managed plan link |
| 00:51 | <zifnab> | !managed |
| 00:51 | <linbot> | https://www.linode.com/managed |
| 00:54 | <vineesh> | so total cost 140 |
| 00:54 | <zifnab> | congrats, you've mastered base 10 math. |
| 00:54 | <vineesh> | did you take backup |
| 00:55 | <millisa> | There is an addon https://www.linode.com/backups |
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| 03:51 | <Sil3ntOne> | Hi, doesn't Lassie reboot on it's own after a server resize?? |
| 03:52 | <mattmcc> | I could've sworn it used to too, but yeah, my last couple resizes didn't come back on their own. |
| 03:56 | <Peng_> | If the node was booted before the resize ran, the manager should boot it again regardless of Lassie. |
| 03:56 | <Peng_> | Nonetheless I might have experienced the same thing last time I resized. |
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| 05:22 | <Sil3ntOne> | Thanks |
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| 05:28 | <frodeborli> | Hi all! I'm having network lag when I connect to SSH on my linode - but no network lag if I connect via a second linode. |
| 05:29 | <frodeborli> | Traffic on the server is low (2 mbit currently), and CPU usage is low (1%) |
| 05:30 | <Sil3ntOne> | are both linodes located in the same region? (could the 2nd one be located closer to you?) |
| 05:30 | <frodeborli> | Both are in Frankfurt. |
| 05:31 | <Sil3ntOne> | Then i'm not sure why. Btw, you might want to check number of connections too rather than just bandwidth. |
| 05:32 | <frodeborli> | Sil3ntOne: There are very few connections (only one SSH - me). |
| 05:32 | <Sil3ntOne> | [when I connect to SSH on my linode] is there just an initial delay? or continuous delay? |
| 05:32 | <frodeborli> | Sil3ntOne: It's very laggy. Similar to packet loss |
| 05:32 | <frodeborli> | but no packet loss when I connect via another linode in the same region. |
| 05:32 | <Sil3ntOne> | can you mtr to your server and check if it actually packet loss? |
| 05:33 | <frodeborli> | Sil3ntOne: I'm not sure what you mean by mtr... sorry |
| 05:33 | <Sil3ntOne> | you could just try to ping to start with before moving to mtr |
| 05:34 | <Sil3ntOne> | is the ping jittering? many spikes / drops? |
| 05:34 | <Sil3ntOne> | https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-use-traceroute-and-mtr-to-diagnose-network-issues |
| 05:34 | <frodeborli> | Sil3ntOne: A traceroute from the failing server is very slow, but from the second server it is fast. |
| 05:34 | <Sil3ntOne> | >.> sorry linode, that's just the first article i came across for mtr lol |
| 05:35 | <frodeborli> | Sil3ntOne: But the numbers seem similar... |
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| 05:35 | <frodeborli> | Sil3ntOne: lol :) |
| 05:35 | <Sil3ntOne> | pastebin / screenshots of both? |
| 05:35 | <Peng_> | IPv6? |
| 05:37 | <frodeborli> | Peng_: I'm experiencing lag with ipv4. |
| 05:37 | <Sil3ntOne> | can you provide screenshot of both the traceroutes frodeborli? |
| 05:38 | <Sil3ntOne> | or pastebin.. either works |
| 05:38 | <frodeborli> | Sil3ntOne: The host is odin.ennerd.com. Working on Windows tracert - I don't have a shell available on hand that I could use Linux from. |
| 05:39 | <frodeborli> | https://pastebin.com/swwySZcV |
| 05:39 | <frodeborli> | It seems fine |
| 05:40 | <frodeborli> | But server still lagging |
| 05:40 | <Sil3ntOne> | There is a windows alternative for mtr |
| 05:40 | <Sil3ntOne> | http://winmtr.net/ |
| 05:41 | <Sil3ntOne> | odin.ennerd.com is the one that lags? |
| 05:42 | <frodeborli> | Sil3ntOne: Yes |
| 05:42 | <frodeborli> | Sil3ntOne: https://pastebin.com/miwJApRh WinMTR |
| 05:42 | <Sil3ntOne> | Can you also get this and record a gif/video of the lag? maybe seeing a video of that would give some ideas - This free tool helps with recording sections of screen - https://getsharex.com |
| 05:42 | <Sil3ntOne> | let winmtr run for a minute or 3 |
| 05:42 | <frodeborli> | I'm using putty, and it takes a couple of seconds before what I write is shown on the shell |
| 05:43 | <frodeborli> | Sil3ntOne: Actually, up to 7-8 seconds sometimes. |
| 05:43 | <frodeborli> | And HTTP traffic is also slow. |
| 05:44 | <Sil3ntOne> | hmm no idea why there is that much of a delay with below 100ms ping then |
| 05:44 | <frodeborli> | Sil3ntOne: https://pastebin.com/0PAJ3p6g MTR for a few minutes. Seems to be dropping a few packets at be2798.ccr42.fra03.atlas.cogentco.com |
| 05:45 | <frodeborli> | Sil3ntOne: I'm assuming it is TCP traffic that is troubling. |
| 05:45 | <Sil3ntOne> | isn't too high, ping is great too, it should even have 1 sec delay |
| 05:45 | <Sil3ntOne> | shouldnt* even have |
| 05:46 | <frodeborli> | I'm considering a reboot |
| 05:46 | <Sil3ntOne> | see if any of these help |
| 05:46 | <Sil3ntOne> | https://www.exchangecore.com/blog/find-number-active-connections-linux-using-netstat/ |
| 05:46 | <Sil3ntOne> | okie, i g2g away for a bit |
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| 05:47 | <frodeborli> | Sil3ntOne: Thanks for your help. |
| 05:48 | <Zimsky> | not very silent for one who claims one is silent |
| 05:48 | <frodeborli> | Zimsky: hehe :) |
| 05:49 | <Sil3ntOne> | The irony o.o |
| 05:49 | <Sil3ntOne> | :P |
| 05:49 | <frodeborli> | Turns out that the first SSH connection is the one lagging - and another SSH connection to the same server does not lag. |
| 05:49 | <frodeborli> | Perhaps there is some load balancing going on on linodes end? |
| 05:49 | <Sil3ntOne> | That's really odd |
| 05:49 | <Sil3ntOne> | or somewhere in between? |
| 05:50 | <frodeborli> | Sil3ntOne: With static routing. That my first shell window goes through one device (firewall, router or something), and my second goes through another? |
| 05:51 | <Sil3ntOne> | if you open up 3-5 different winmtr instances and start them one after another, do the routes differ? |
| 05:52 | <Sil3ntOne> | not sure if that's the right way to check |
| 05:53 | <frodeborli> | Sil3ntOne: The routes are the same. |
| 05:53 | <Peng_> | Other direction could be different |
| 05:54 | <Sil3ntOne> | hmm ya, try mtr from server to your IP |
| 05:55 | <Sil3ntOne> | lag could be downstream |
| 05:55 | <erik> | frodeborli: It could be DNS related |
| 05:56 | <Sil3ntOne> | no, if it was DNS related there would only be initial lag, not continous |
| 05:56 | <frodeborli> | erik: I don't think DNS is involved now - my SSH connection is open and has been open for a while |
| 05:56 | <erik> | Sil3ntOne: Ah, i thought it was initial lag on first connection |
| 05:56 | <erik> | my bad for not reading properly |
| 05:56 | <frodeborli> | erik: Pressing a button in putty causes 7-8 seconds delay. |
| 05:57 | <erik> | frodeborli: and a second connection is quick? |
| 05:57 | <frodeborli> | erik: But in another window - no noticeable delay to the same server. |
| 05:57 | <Sil3ntOne> | it's really weird :P his first connection lags continuously while the 2nd doesn't.. |
| 05:57 | <erik> | frodeborli: You have tried restarting putty? |
| 05:57 | <erik> | just to rule it out |
| 05:57 | <frodeborli> | Sil3ntOne: And I did connect to SSH because we noticed slow HTTP traffic. |
| 05:58 | <Sil3ntOne> | Could it be the NSA spying on SSH connections some how? xD may be their interceptor only intercepts the 1st connection and it's lagging badly.. |
| 05:58 | <frodeborli> | erik: Since new windows seem quick, I am worried that there is a problem on some device somewhere along the route. |
| 05:58 | <Sil3ntOne> | but it's http traffic too.. hmm.. so above is not likely.. |
| 05:59 | <Peng_> | Horribad steal? |
| 05:59 | <Sil3ntOne> | wuzzat? |
| 05:59 | <Peng_> | When the CPU is overloaded and everyone suffers |
| 06:00 | <Peng_> | Particularly those using too much CPU. :P |
| 06:00 | <Sil3ntOne> | oh, noisy neighbors? |
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| 06:00 | <Sil3ntOne> | could be.. but then 2nd ssh should lag too |
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| 06:00 | <Sil3ntOne> | Frodeborli try using https://www.bitvise.com/ instead of putty? |
| 06:01 | <Sil3ntOne> | or try MOSH |
| 06:01 | <Sil3ntOne> | https://mosh.org/ |
| 06:02 | <frodeborli> | Sil3ntOne: I've used putty for around 12 years with no issues and I am a creature of habit :) |
| 06:02 | <frodeborli> | Sil3ntOne: I've never seen this before. HTTP traffic seems to be okay now. Perhaps there was some failover event somewhere. |
| 06:03 | <frodeborli> | Sil3ntOne: And that my first putty window is stuck on a failing router due to some session stickyness. |
| 06:04 | <frodeborli> | Sil3ntOne: I've probably used putty for 15000 hours or so - it's my main development tool. :-) I'll test bitvise just because I am curious. |
| 06:05 | <Sil3ntOne> | bitvise has some niceties ... right click paste, profiles, inbuilt sftp browser etc. |
| 06:05 | <Sil3ntOne> | Mosh is for when you are travelling and have horrible phone internet that keeps reconnecting.. Mosh would preserve whatever you are doing over SSH and restore that on reconnect |
| 06:05 | <frodeborli> | Sil3ntOne: Yeah, I've missed sftp-browser. Putty has right click paste and profiles though |
| 06:06 | <frodeborli> | Sil3ntOne: I usually use screen for that purpose |
| 06:07 | <Sil3ntOne> | configuring putty profiles seems tedious to me |
| 06:09 | <frodeborli> | Sil3ntOne: If I had to connect to several different hosts all the time, it might be problematic - but I have a dedicated shell server that I use to connect to other servers with. |
| 06:10 | <Sil3ntOne> | ohh ok |
| 06:11 | <frodeborli> | Sil3ntOne: Thanks a lot for your effort. Kudos! |
| 06:11 | <Sil3ntOne> | my pleasure :) always something new to experience / learn lol |
| 06:12 | <Sil3ntOne> | now I know this is a possibility :P 1 ssh lags other doesn't |
| 06:12 | <frodeborli> | hehe |
| 06:12 | <frodeborli> | me too. |
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| 06:28 | <Mike> | HI |
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| 06:30 | <Guest4607> | Hello |
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| 06:53 | <arsa> | hello |
| 06:54 | <arsa> | i want to ask about cloud vps hosting at 5 dollar price |
| 06:54 | <arsa> | is the package has been include mysql, wen server and python installed? |
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| 07:01 | <voker57> | no but you can install whatever you need yourself |
| 07:01 | <voker57> | meh |
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| 07:18 | <Sil3ntOne> | Arsa, that's the price of an un-managed server, they will install the selected Operating System and give you SSH access.. You are free to install whatever you want to.. I read somewhere that linode also provided 'managed hosting' at a higher price but I'm not sure what all that covers. |
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| 07:28 | <loadkick> | Hello Guys |
| 07:29 | <@sjacobs> | loadkick: howdy. |
| 07:29 | <Sil3ntOne> | hey |
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| 07:41 | <loadkick> | i just wanted to understand how can i use the linode image i have created out side linode hosting system? |
| 07:41 | <loadkick> | can anyone help me? |
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| 09:34 | <raytube> | Hi, I was trying to find out more about the managed hosting options from Linode |
| 09:35 | <@sjacobs> | raytube: did you have any specific questions? general info can be found here: https://www.linode.com/managed |
| 09:35 | <raytube> | Well, I guess the main was an idea of price? |
| 09:35 | <@sjacobs> | it's $100 per linode per month. |
| 09:37 | <grawity> | it's probably also not quite the same managed hosting as you expect? |
| 09:37 | <raytube> | Ok, so basically a $100 per server? |
| 09:37 | <raytube> | @grawity - Can you clarify further? |
| 09:41 | <@sjacobs> | Linode Managed is more of an incident response plan. Software installation and configuration is still your responsibility. It comes with a WHM and cPanel installation, if you choose, but the configuration stops there. |
| 09:42 | <raytube> | Ah ok thanks. Perhaps not what I'm looking for then. Thanks for the info! |
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| 11:23 | <arby> | I've installed a clean Linode instance by deploying LinodeStackscript -> 64bit OpenSUSE 15. It installes, & boots, and is immediately accessible via SSH. I'm trying to change some config, particularly grub2's in /etc/default/grub. Logged in as root, every file on the linode instance is modifiable -- except for /etc/default/grub. Can't edit it, can't move it -- only get "operation not permitted". Tried booting into Finnix, mounting the drive -- same issue |
| 11:23 | <arby> | unmodifiable. |
| 11:23 | <arby> | Tried reinstalling the instance from scratch -- same issue. |
| 11:24 | <arby> | What can possibly be preventing mod of that single file? |
| 11:25 | <Peng_> | ext4 supports setting a file immutable via an attribute |
| 11:25 | <Peng_> | https://www.tecmint.com/chattr-command-examples/ |
| 11:26 | <Peng_> | If it was done on purpose for some reason, I wouldn't suggest changing it. |
| 11:26 | <Peng_> | But that might be the mechanism |
| 11:28 | <arby> | Peng_: That's it. `chattr -i /etc/default/grub` does the trick; now editable. That's *SUPPOSED* to be a user-editable file ... |
| 11:28 | <Peng_> | Sure, but there might be a reason Linode set it up that way |
| 11:29 | <arby> | Heh, I'm sure it's sooooooper-secret |
| 11:34 | <@sjacobs> | arby: that is odd. i'm taking a look. |
| 11:35 | <arby> | sjacobs: Thx. Makes changing/adding mounts -- particularly "/boot" a challenge! Also, would ask whether it makes sense on your end to NOT set "GRUB_DISABLE_LINUX_UUID=true" by default |
| 11:38 | <@sjacobs> | that setting avoids a lot of headache in the virtual environment. there are a few things which can cause UUIDs to change. don't have them off the top of my head, but just respecting what is in the /dev/sd* slots in the manager, and using /dev/sd* in the grub and fstab simplifies it quite a bit. |
| 11:39 | <Peng_> | Restoring from a backup? |
| 11:39 | <dwfreed> | if you use the Linode Backup Service, restoring a backup will give a different UUID |
| 11:39 | <dwfreed> | Peng_: :D |
| 11:39 | <arby> | sjacobs: The problem is, the 'respecting' part isn't as robust as you'd like ... at least not in tests here so far. |
| 11:39 | <dwfreed> | ? |
| 11:40 | <dwfreed> | you put a disk as /dev/sda, and it'll be /dev/sda until you change it |
| 11:40 | <@sjacobs> | what is in /dev/sda of the configuration profile, will always be in /dev/sda of the linode. using that avoids UUID changes. is that not the case for you? |
| 11:40 | <dwfreed> | even across backup restores |
| 11:43 | <arby> | sjacobs: working aon *knowing* what the issue is, but ... Simple experiment: Deploy a clean Linode instance from StackScript:OpenSUSE15. Create a drive, "BOOT" (500MB, ext4). |
| 11:43 | <arby> | rsync "/boot/" contents to BOOT drive. |
| 11:43 | <arby> | Set BOOT drive as /dev/sda; SWAP as /dev/sdb; rest ("/") as /dev/sdc. |
| 11:43 | <arby> | Try to mount BOOT & get Linode to boot from it ... |
| 11:44 | <arby> | Haven't been able to do that -- drop to grub shell at boot -- UNLESS grub config's changed to mount by UUID= |
| 11:45 | <dwfreed> | did you do update-grub after making a separate boot device? |
| 11:46 | <arby> | Tried to avoid the problem by starting with an OS-Installer disk, and installing from it rather than starting off with StackScript-deployed instnace; ended up in filesystem-unrecognized hell. Haven't followed up on that. Yet. |
| 11:46 | <dwfreed> | installer probably made partitions, whereas linode's grub2 "kernel" is probably expecting a straight fs |
| 11:49 | <dwfreed> | (neat trick: grub2's "search" command can pick a device by checking if a certain file is on it, say grub.cfg) |
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| 12:20 | <arby> | instead of monkeying with it, appears that simply avoiding what grub2 thinks are the right devices, using a grub custom.cfg works around the problem. I'm up & booted with GRUB2, and /boot on /dev/sda, swap on /dev/sdb and / on /dev/sdc. |
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| 12:41 | <mokil> | hi guys |
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| 12:41 | <millisa> | greetings |
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| 15:01 | <Eugene> | Every day I'm Linodin' |
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| 15:37 | <Guest4650> | Any problems with the internal mirrors for APT ubuntu 16.06 |
| 15:37 | <millisa> | you'd be the first to say something. |
| 15:37 | <Guest4650> | Then it might be something I've done. :lol: |
| 15:38 | <millisa> | might be. or you could just be first. |
| 15:38 | <millisa> | what are you seeing? |
| 15:38 | <retro|blah> | Ubuntu 16.06??? |
| 15:39 | <millisa> | i recollect something from a few months back where you had to force ipv4 to get it to talk to security.ubuntu.com |
| 15:39 | <@mcintosh> | Guest4650: what error are you seeing? |
| 15:39 | <@sjacobs> | that specific issue should all be resolved. and it was often upstream security.ubuntu.com. |
| 15:39 | <Guest4650> | 16.04... |
| 15:40 | <@sjacobs> | not aware of any current issues. |
| 15:40 | <Guest4650> | Err:2 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu yakkety-security/main amd64 git-man all 1:2.9.3-1ubuntu0.1 404 Not Found |
| 15:40 | <@sjacobs> | apt update first? |
| 15:40 | <Guest4650> | Doing apt update |
| 15:41 | <retro|blah> | Also, Yakkety is not 16.04. |
| 15:41 | <@mcintosh> | Guest4650: can you run this command? ubuntu-support-status |
| 15:42 | <@sjacobs> | Yakkety stopped receiving updates last July. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases |
| 15:42 | <Guest4650> | Support status summary of 'xxx': You have 0 packages (0.0%) that can not/no-longer be downloaded You have 544 packages (100.0%) that are unsupported Run with --show-unsupported, --show-supported or --show-all to see more details |
| 15:43 | <Guest4650> | Why they heck is my apt on Yakketty? I did a 16.04 installation. |
| 15:44 | <@sjacobs> | does `lsb_release -a` show 16.04? |
| 15:45 | <Guest4650> | Well it has been upgraded at some point. (glares at the new kid) |
| 15:45 | <Guest4650> | sb_release -a No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID: Ubuntu Description: Ubuntu 16.10 Release: 16.10 Codename: yakkety |
| 15:45 | <Guest4650> | Okay. so do I understand correctly that 16.10 is not LTS? |
| 15:45 | <@sjacobs> | correct. |
| 15:46 | <Guest4650> | Any options besides rebuild or take chances on 18.04? |
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| 15:47 | <millisa> | Best option: install empty 18.04, get 'new kid' to get all the services you care about on that 16.10 working, then do a data migration/sync. |
| 15:47 | <millisa> | you wanted to upgrade anyways. right? right? |
| 15:48 | <Guest4650> | Oh I'd love to, but I true 'new kid' no further than I can throw him. He's like a kitten on catnip in a room full of shreddables. |
| 15:48 | <Guest4650> | :lol: Uh, right. |
| 15:48 | <millisa> | second best option: do it yourself. demote new kid to Junior Coffee Retriever (in training) |
| 15:48 | <Guest4650> | /true/trust |
| 15:49 | <Guest4650> | :takes deep breath: :seeks upgrade guide: |
| 15:49 | <Guest4650> | Thanks for the help! |
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| 15:52 | <Guest4650> | :reads upgrade guide: I think the unplanned emergency of the day deserves its own Linode. :adds linode to account: |
| 15:53 | <millisa> | you can always swap the IP later if it looks like it' |
| 15:53 | <millisa> | er, if it looks like it'll work |
| 15:55 | <@sjacobs> | yeah. you can shut that linode down. clone it to a another in the same dc, which should go fairly quickly. and boot it up while you work on the cloned copy. |
| 15:55 | <@sjacobs> | if everything goes as planned, and you're happy with it, you can swap their IP addresses, as millisa mentioned. |
| 16:01 | <Guest4650> | Yep. Considered that. Since the E.O.T.D. is a chat bridge, and it appears the chats are temporary in nature, I'm going to pretend I didn't see anything like an OS in an unauthorized state, and move on to greener pastures. :lol: I can come back to this cluster once the E.O.T.D. is over. The server is operational and case tests indicate no immediate danger. I just can't install git. |
| 16:01 | <Cromulent> | have you guys seen the mass exodus from Github to Gitlab in the last 24 to 48 hours or so? Seems Microsoft buying Github isn't all that popular |
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| 16:03 | <Guest4650> | Microsoft has a history of destroying platforms. They know not the wonders of incremental updates, or non-bloat-ware. |
| 16:14 | <Cromulent> | I've been on Gitlab for a couple of months now - have to say it is pretty cool for open source (and closed source stuff if you can afford it or run your own instance from the open source code) |
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| 16:20 | <Eugene> | Meh. I'm not planning on changing who I give money to or where my git URLs live any time soon. |
| 16:20 | <Cromulent> | fair play |
| 16:20 | <Eugene> | Knee-jerk movements for ideological reasons are rarely good for long term stability |
| 16:20 | <@mcintosh> | if they handle GH like they handle VS Code it will (continue to) be the best in its class |
| 16:21 | <Cromulent> | I still prefer PyCharm for Python |
| 16:21 | <Eugene> | I didn't like the Github product very much anyway. Its a place that I can SSH to and from. THat works fine. |
| 16:21 | <Cromulent> | the CI/CD on Gitlab is pretty cool |
| 16:22 | <Cromulent> | took me a little while to figure out (never used Docker before) but you can do some pretty powerful things |
| 16:23 | <Guest4650> | PyCharm for the win Cromulent. ;) |
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| 17:50 | <RamenN00dles> | Did anyone know Josh? |
| 17:52 | <smallclone> | huh? |
| 17:54 | <RamenN00dles> | Josh. Guy who apparently used to come here. A canadastani programmin' EDM guy. I'm trying to figure out if his friends I used to talk to are still around. I lost track of them ages ago. |
| 17:55 | <millisa> | happen to know a username? |
| 17:59 | <RamenN00dles> | Mostly Josh - seen a couple instances of Loveless and one of ` apparently. |
| 18:01 | <RamenN00dles> | Of the friends? Only one of them I was familiar with on IRC was lilkittenboi and I don't ~think~ he was on this server. |
| 18:01 | <millisa> | talking 2012-ish? |
| 18:04 | <RamenN00dles> | Most likely. |
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| 21:21 | <meik> | Hello? |
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| 21:21 | <millisa> | Hi |
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| 23:21 | <Eric_> | hello |
| 23:21 | <Eric_> | any serveice here? |
| 23:21 | <millisa> | !ask |
| 23:21 | <linbot> | If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read http://alexfornuto.com/how-to-ask-for-help-on-irc/ |
| 23:22 | <Woet> | Eric_: I have 4G service right now |
| 23:23 | <Woet> | if that answers your question |
| 23:23 | <Woet> | actually, I checked, LTE right now |
| 23:23 | <Eric_> | HAHA |
| 23:23 | <Eric_> | I mean Linode customer service |
| 23:24 | <Woet> | The #linode channel on OFTC is where the Linode community comes together to chat about system administration, development, and all things Linode. Stop on by for real-time advice on Linode products and troubleshooting tips. We love our community, and we're sure you will too. |
| 23:24 | <Peng_> | They're often here but not all the time |
| 23:24 | <Eric_> | got it |
| 23:25 | <Eric_> | Woet I just want to change my host ,any advive for me? |
| 23:25 | <Woet> | Eric_: you only live once |
| 23:26 | <millisa> | resizing your plan often moves you to a new host. or you can put a ticket in to request it. what's wrong with your host? |
| 23:26 | <Woet> | millisa: oh, you think they mean host node, not actual hosting company? |
| 23:26 | <Woet> | its possible |
| 23:26 | <rsdehart> | you're not going to be able to officially request a host change in the community chat, but we're happy to talk you through deciding whether you need it or not |
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| 23:32 | <Peng_> | I want to change hosts to one where I'm the only person using too much CPU |
| 23:38 | <rsdehart> | Peng_: I had to look twice because I worried it was in fact Eric_ who said that |
| 23:38 | <Peng_> | Sorry :( |
| 23:38 | <rsdehart> | hahaha |
| 23:38 | <rsdehart> | that would be a pretty brazen thing to unironically state :D |
| 23:40 | <Peng_> | It's my true feeling, but I don't have the nerve to say it in a ticket :P |
| 23:43 | <Eric_> | My trouble is acess problem in China |
| 23:44 | <Peng_> | Do you want to move to a different data center? |
| 23:44 | <Peng_> | Or change IPs? |
| 23:44 | <rsdehart> | I think he has a ping of several minutes |
| 23:44 | <Eric_> | current IP is in LONDON |
| 23:45 | <Eric_> | I wanna change it to Tokyo |
| 23:45 | <Woet> | Eric_: then create an image of your Linode and launch it in Tokyo |
| 23:45 | <Woet> | no guarantees on geo IPs though |
| 23:46 | <Eric_> | migate directly |
| 23:46 | <Peng_> | Eric_: What do you mean? Is your Limode in London? |
| 23:46 | <Eric_> | No need to creat image |
| 23:46 | <Peng_> | Eric_: You can file a support ticket to be moved to Tokyo |
| 23:46 | <Woet> | Eric_: https://www.linode.com/docs/platform/linode-beginners-guide/#can-i-transfer-my-linode-to-another-data-center |
| 23:48 | <millisa> | or do it yourself. https://www.linode.com/docs/platform/disk-images/clone-your-linode/ |
| --- | Log | closed Tue Jun 05 00:00:41 2018 |