--- | Log | opened Sun Jun 10 00:00:47 2018 |
00:27 | <trippeh> | aaaa /116 pool addresses dont want to migrate to new linode |
00:27 | <Peng_> | What D: |
00:28 | <trippeh> | been 25 minutes and they still ded |
00:30 | <dwfreed> | try pinging the gateway from them? |
00:31 | <trippeh> | yes that worked hum |
00:31 | <dwfreed> | NDP caching |
00:32 | <trippeh> | for this long? that is silly |
00:32 | <trippeh> | I did try to ping external hosts with them fwiw |
00:38 | <trippeh> | so a ND should have made it to the gw for the nexthop lookup |
00:39 | <dwfreed> | when the host is trying to find its gateway, those ND packets don't necessarily have to come from the address being used for the packet to be sent |
00:40 | <trippeh> | I guess you have to send the gw a packet that makes it to the control plane |
00:42 | <trippeh> | and then it does a new lookup or something |
00:43 | <dwfreed> | the NDP cache on the router is configurable, at least |
00:44 | <dwfreed> | though what I'm reading is for IOS, dunno about NXOS or IOS XR |
00:45 | <dwfreed> | on IOS, the default cache is 4 hours |
00:45 | <Woet> | thats why you should update your IOS to 11.4 |
00:46 | <dwfreed> | wat |
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01:10 | <tj> | howdy |
01:20 | <linbot> | hi |
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01:50 | <dcraig> | hi linbot |
01:50 | <linbot> | hi dcraig |
01:52 | <dcraig> | ugh, robots |
01:53 | <linbot> | ugh, humans |
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01:56 | <xsanfara05> | Hi, I have just signed up and received email receipt. but it says accout pending. does anyone here could help? Thanks |
01:57 | <dwfreed> | that means your account was flagged for manual review by staff; you should get an email soon |
01:57 | <xsanfara05> | thanks for your response. But why flagged do you think ? |
01:58 | <dwfreed> | because it presented a higher than usual risk of being fraudulent; for example, right now it looks like you're tunneling through a hosting provider |
01:59 | <xsanfara05> | Oh yes, I'm using cloud remote desktop |
01:59 | <xsanfara05> | what is the best way to not get usually flagged? how should I sign up? |
01:59 | <dcraig> | kids these days |
02:00 | <xsanfara05> | dcraig lol |
02:00 | <dcraig> | don't be suspicious ;) |
02:00 | <dcraig> | just ride it out... it's an honor to be flagged |
02:00 | <xsanfara05> | using a windows virtual machine, thats suspicious? |
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02:01 | <Srdr> | Hello everyone |
02:01 | <dwfreed> | it's the fact that your IP address's geolocation is very different from your billing address |
02:01 | <dcraig> | yeah, I mean... these run linux, not windows |
02:01 | <dwfreed> | which is a very common situation when people have stolen credit card information |
02:02 | <Srdr> | No it is not like as you think |
02:02 | <Srdr> | Maybe I'm at another country |
02:03 | <xsanfara05> | yeah thats make sense. you think using linux is much better when signing up ? |
02:03 | <dwfreed> | xsanfara05: dcraig is just messing around |
02:03 | <dcraig> | :D |
02:04 | <Srdr> | I have two questions if you should answer |
02:04 | <linbot> | Srdr: If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read http://alexfornuto.com/how-to-ask-for-help-on-irc/ |
02:05 | * | dcraig tickles linbot around a bit with a large walleye |
02:05 | <dcraig> | there's an addendum for "how to ask for fish tickles on irc" |
02:06 | <Srdr> | I have a running VPS with domain name connected to it. So is it possible to connect that domain to an ip which depends on onather hosting |
02:06 | <dwfreed> | yes, you just change the DNS |
02:07 | <dcraig> | that alexfornuto.com site has a new blog theme :D |
02:08 | <xsanfara05> | dcraig is right, he is not messing around.I will just use socks or proxy with addons random agent linux or Mac and same billing address. and things should be fine |
02:08 | <xsanfara05> | no need for my id proof scan |
02:08 | <Srdr> | I changed ip adress in domain zone on linode. DNS didn't change until now. About 12 hours past after I chnaged IP in domain zone |
02:09 | <dcraig> | you can pick how long dns records are cached by recursive resolvers |
02:09 | <dwfreed> | xsanfara05: using a proxy is what got you flagged, not that you were using windows |
02:09 | <dwfreed> | xsanfara05: source: I used to work for Linode, I know how their fraud detection system works |
02:09 | <dcraig> | pick a shorter time to make updates take effect faster |
02:10 | <dwfreed> | xsanfara05: signing up again is not going to help you at all (it will actually make things worse) |
02:10 | <xsanfara05> | not if Webrtc is disabled. and proxy with good ISP like comcast ... etc |
02:10 | <dwfreed> | that isn't going to change the fact that the IP address Linode sees is going to be in a completely different country than your billing information (which has to match your credit card) |
02:11 | <xsanfara05> | I will use different credit card |
02:11 | <dwfreed> | you're gonna just get cancelled as fraud at this rate |
02:11 | <dcraig> | I wish I could add multiple cards... |
02:12 | <xsanfara05> | dwfreed, I will mismatch the dns proxy location with my billing |
02:12 | <xsanfara05> | probably change the street address |
02:12 | <dwfreed> | dude, you're not helping matters |
02:12 | <Srdr> | I know that when we change nameservers for new domain, it takes from 24 hour up to 72 hour. But in mine all settings are configured. I only changed IP address in domain zone |
02:13 | <dcraig> | at this point I think the fraud detection is working as designed |
02:13 | <dwfreed> | dcraig: yeah... |
02:13 | <xsanfara05> | hopefully you staying online, I will share screen capture and u will see |
02:13 | <xsanfara05> | that sucks, how come you gotta upload your ID and ur information and be cool with it |
02:13 | <dcraig> | Srdr, https://www.linode.com/docs/networking/dns/dns-manager-overview/#set-the-time-to-live-or-ttl |
02:14 | <Srdr> | Be optimistic. There are many possible conditions in the world. Don't just think in your conditions |
02:15 | <Srdr> | Ok thanks dcraig |
02:15 | <Srdr> | You understand me :) |
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02:17 | <dcraig> | I can read you like a book |
02:17 | <Srdr> | :) yeah it it true. Thanks a lot |
02:19 | <Srdr> | I have second question too. I wonder if you could help me dcraig |
02:21 | <dcraig> | if it's an easy question |
02:23 | <Srdr> | Yeah . It it only hard for me. I have purchased a new VPS. But VPS provider doesn't have nameservers. How can i connect new domain to that VPS? |
02:23 | <dcraig> | is this a linode vps? |
02:24 | <dcraig> | if you have a linode, you can use the linode nameservers and point the domain at the other provider |
02:24 | <Srdr> | No. I purchased it in different VPS provider |
02:24 | <dcraig> | or, domain registrars often provide dns services.... |
02:25 | <dcraig> | or you can sign up for dns hosting from some other company, like amazon route 53 |
02:26 | <Srdr> | I have a domain configured with linode nameservers. I want to connect that domain to my new VPS. So I only changed IP adress in domain zone. I think it must work. But It doesn't take effect now |
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02:26 | <Srdr> | Maybe I have to wait 12 hours more :) |
02:26 | <dcraig> | it might take a day to take effect |
02:26 | <dcraig> | per that link I sent you earlier |
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02:27 | <Srdr> | Yeah I read it |
02:27 | <dcraig> | you would have needed to change the TTL a day before you made your DNS change |
02:28 | <Srdr> | I set TTL as default yesterday |
02:29 | <dwfreed> | the default TTL is 1 day |
02:31 | <Srdr> | It it to long for me :). |
02:31 | <Srdr> | Until tomorrow I have to configure that |
02:33 | <Srdr> | Is it take effect faster if I change TTL now? |
02:33 | <dcraig> | you could try "dig +trace yourdomain.com" to confirm that the right result is returned |
02:33 | <dcraig> | no, the damage is already done.... |
02:34 | <dcraig> | you can try clearing the dns cache on your computer |
02:38 | <Srdr> | I tried dig. It shows my old servers IP |
02:39 | <Srdr> | Ok then I will wait 12 hour more for changes |
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02:41 | <Rainbow> | I keep my TTLs at 60 seconds |
02:42 | <Rainbow> | I mean I almost never have to change records but |
02:44 | <dcraig> | :D |
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03:23 | <Zimsky> | Rainbow: real women use 10 second TTLs |
03:23 | <Rainbow> | lol |
03:24 | <Zimsky> | actually |
03:25 | <Zimsky> | real women don't even use DNS, but instead just have everyone else install local authoritative nameservers with all the records |
03:25 | <Rainbow> | pfff |
03:25 | <Zimsky> | pf won't save you |
03:26 | <Rainbow> | A REAL woman pwns networks and forcibly installs new /etc/hosts files so people can connect to her server. |
03:26 | <Rainbow> | :D |
03:26 | <Rainbow> | How's it hangin, Zimsky? |
03:26 | <Zimsky> | what about rrtypes that don't work in hosts |
03:26 | <Zimsky> | it's hanging well |
03:27 | <Zimsky> | lynching supplies are getting cheaper by the day in this 12th century french village |
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03:45 | <Woet> | Zimsky: what do you have that's hanging? |
03:45 | <Woet> | and should it be? |
03:46 | <Zimsky> | curing cheese, and no |
03:46 | <@bmartin> | What is happening |
03:46 | <Zimsky> | also some grape vines |
03:46 | <Zimsky> | but they should be hanging |
03:48 | <Zimsky> | i did say this was a 12th century french village |
03:50 | <Woet> | bmartin: how's it hanging? |
03:50 | <Zimsky> | Woet: have you ever had casu marzu? |
03:50 | <@bmartin> | It is good.... |
03:50 | <Woet> | Zimsky: no thanks |
03:51 | <Zimsky> | interesting you already know what that is |
03:51 | <Woet> | Zimsky: this thing called Google |
03:51 | <Woet> | Casu marzu, literally 'rotten/putrid cheese', is a traditional Sardinian sheep milk cheese that contains live insect larvae. A similar cheese, casgiu merzu, is found in Corsica. Wikipedia |
03:51 | <Zimsky> | a google sounds like a 70s dance move |
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04:04 | <trippeh> | tfw you reset a login in a webapp using the output from /usr/bin/md5sum |
04:05 | <trippeh> | found it today >:( |
04:05 | <Woet> | tfw you still use md5 in 2018 |
04:05 | <trippeh> | yes, this was part of my feelings :p |
04:06 | <trippeh> | not even salted (not that it matters much for md5 these days...) |
04:06 | <Woet> | you can ask Zimsky for help, she's pretty salty |
04:07 | <Zimsky> | don't write web apps |
04:07 | <Zimsky> | give people shell accounts and write stuff in ncurses |
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04:09 | <trippeh> | a terminal ui on a mainframe |
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05:40 | <grawity> | I don't know about that, I heard ncurses deserves its name |
05:52 | <Zimsky> | at least it isn't javascript |
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06:45 | <ssddsqq> | helllloooo |
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06:48 | <Zimsky> | that about sums up the day |
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07:21 | <quickquestion4u> | Does Linode have decent ddos protection? |
07:24 | <Zimsky> | linode has no ddos protection! |
07:24 | <Zimsky> | you just get nulled |
07:24 | <Zimsky> | so don't get ddosed I guess |
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07:28 | <adam_> | Hi there, are there any plans for DNS plugin for Let's Encrypt? |
07:28 | <Zimsky> | do you mean like something integrated with linode's dns? |
07:29 | <grawity> | do you mean a certbot plugin? |
07:29 | <grawity> | https://github.com/certbot/certbot/issues/5771 |
07:29 | <adam_> | there are plugins for other providers: https://certbot.eff.org/docs/using.html#dns-plugins |
07:30 | <adam_> | I need wildcard certificate which needs DNS challenge for verification, and even though I'm able to generate one, I'm not sure how can I renew it automatically without a plugin |
07:31 | <Zimsky> | you could just script it |
07:31 | <Zimsky> | you don't necessarily need a plugin |
07:31 | <grawity> | in fact also https://github.com/certbot/certbot/pull/5302 |
07:32 | <Zimsky> | grawity: quick, what's a good hostname for a new box |
07:32 | <@smccabe> | newbox |
07:32 | <@bmartin> | Oldbox |
07:32 | <@bmartin> | throw them off the scent |
07:32 | <@smccabe> | That works too XD |
07:32 | <Zimsky> | smccabeXgrawity it is |
07:33 | <grawity> | Zimsky: clownmobile |
07:33 | <Zimsky> | no, no clowns |
07:33 | <Zimsky> | I don't like clowns |
07:33 | <grawity> | "how many websites can I run on my server?" "well, how many clowns fit in a bus?" |
07:33 | <Zimsky> | lol |
07:33 | <Zimsky> | that's great actually |
07:34 | <grawity> | is what I'm always tempted to reply whenever someone here asks the former |
07:34 | <@bmartin> | anywhere between 1 and infinite |
07:34 | <Zimsky> | do it |
07:34 | <adam_> | https://github.com/certbot/certbot/pull/5302 looks nice, could be done in a fairly short amount of time |
07:34 | <Zimsky> | give in to temptation |
07:36 | <quickquestion4u> | So, with ddos protection, could cloudflare (or something rubbish like that) be linked to the linode server? |
07:36 | <quickquestion4u> | *vps |
07:37 | <Zimsky> | sure |
07:38 | <Zimsky> | just pop a cloudflare thing in front of your web server or whatever you're running |
07:38 | <quickquestion4u> | cool beans... |
07:38 | <quickquestion4u> | Okay. Thanks. |
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10:31 | <Eugene> | Every day I'm Linodin' |
10:33 | <CornishPasty> | Good point |
10:40 | <linbot> | New news from community: Linode has been upgraded my storage but downgraded my CPU <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/16916> |
10:50 | <linbot> | New news from community: Price of Linode Backup for $5 linode is too high <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/16917> |
11:06 | <Woet> | so don't use it |
11:16 | <Zimsky> | lol |
11:17 | <ericoc> | but /usr/bin/rsync is $0 !!111 |
11:17 | <ericoc> | like $2 is highway robbery |
11:17 | <Zimsky> | what are you rsyncing to though? |
11:18 | <Peng_> | rsync.net |
11:18 | <ericoc> | do they even list their prices |
11:18 | <ericoc> | ah, 4 Cents Per GB / Month minimum |
11:19 | <Peng_> | It's gone down like an order of magnitude |
11:19 | <ericoc> | > Sorry, you must order at least 200 GB of disk with this product |
11:20 | <ericoc> | so minimum 200 GB @ $8.00 per month (0.04 per GB/Mo.) |
11:20 | <ericoc> | so have no backups and risk 100% data loss, pay $2/month for linode backups, or backup manually to wherever or find some other solution |
11:20 | <ericoc> | $2/month pls |
11:22 | <Peng_> | Somehow my account's minimum is 100 GB |
11:22 | <ericoc> | i don't have an account, was just looking at like /pricing.html ... maybe you're special grandfatherd? |
11:22 | <Peng_> | Yeah maybe |
11:23 | <Peng_> | at this point I suspect rsync.net's pricing is more complicated than people with ten-year-old Linodes who skip upgrades, except rsync.net's pricing is totally undocumented |
11:24 | <Woet> | backing up to the same provider is silly anyways |
11:26 | <Zimsky> | but but but Woet they said they had an SLA |
11:27 | <Woet> | Zimsky: bbigger wants me to pay $5 so I can help out Linode customers on the community |
11:27 | <Woet> | this is a massive scam |
11:28 | <Zimsky> | is it a scam or a racket? |
11:28 | <Woet> | both |
11:28 | <Woet> | and a ponzi scheme |
11:28 | <Zimsky> | and a pyramid scheme |
11:29 | <Woet> | i've actually been to the pyramids |
11:29 | <Woet> | twice |
11:29 | <Woet> | have you? |
11:31 | <@bbigger> | @Woet the $5 charge is primarily for card verification -- I'd be happy to refund it after it's processed so you can get to posting (rip pyramids) |
11:33 | <Woet> | bbigger: i trust you, unlike that gjjansen fellow |
11:33 | <Woet> | glad he got fired |
11:33 | <Woet> | Zimsky: give me your referral code if you want free money |
11:34 | <Woet> | or Peng_ |
11:34 | <Woet> | or Eugene |
11:34 | <Eugene> | https://eugenekay.com/linode |
11:34 | <Woet> | that doesn't seem like a valid referral code |
11:34 | <Eugene> | I assure you, it is |
11:34 | <Woet> | so it's bb9b0e63250635a11a87da7cde2f22ac30af9e57? |
11:34 | <Woet> | i mean, it's an input field |
11:34 | <Woet> | i didn't ask for a link |
11:35 | <Eugene> | That sounds right |
11:35 | <Eugene> | I'm lazy, eat me |
11:35 | <Woet> | just the referral will d |
11:35 | <Woet> | do |
11:42 | <orblivion> | hm, ok, trying something weird |
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11:43 | <Woet> | super weird |
11:45 | <Woet> | bbigger: now I upgraded my account and someone deleted the question |
11:45 | <Woet> | https://www.linode.com/community/questions/16916 |
11:45 | <Woet> | very suspicious |
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11:49 | <Woet> | You have given Ben Bigger a Happy rating. |
11:51 | <Zimsky> | adorable |
11:51 | <@bbigger> | Woet: hmm, I didn't see your post come up |
11:51 | <Woet> | bbigger: I'm working on it. my answers require a lot of prep. |
11:52 | <Woet> | I did give you two Happy ratings, if that helps. |
11:52 | <Woet> | just because I like your name. |
11:53 | <@bbigger> | thanks! my name has served me well |
11:53 | <Woet> | does anyone ever tell you to be bigger person |
11:53 | <Woet> | i hope you punch them in the face |
11:54 | <@bbigger> | not as often as you might think |
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11:58 | <Zimsky> | Woet: do you condone punching people in the face |
11:59 | <Woet> | Zimsky: depends on the target |
11:59 | <Zimsky> | are you one of those silly people that goes around telling people to punch anyone they think is a nazi |
12:00 | <@bmartin> | Why does punching a person depend on which Target you are in? |
12:00 | <Woet> | I've only been in the Australian ones |
12:00 | <Woet> | the one that's slowly going bankrupt |
12:00 | <Peng_> | bmartin: guess it depends on whether there are cops in the parking lot |
12:02 | <Zimsky> | cops don't matter |
12:02 | <Zimsky> | they don't do anything |
12:02 | <Woet> | yea I'm white, they won't do anything to me |
12:03 | <Zimsky> | I thought you were Kenyan |
12:04 | <Woet> | only on omegle |
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15:17 | <VN> | hello! |
15:17 | <VN> | have reported a rather tricky abuse report |
15:18 | <VN> | Hope you guys will take a look to it |
15:19 | <VN> | seems the IP 96.126.103.245 of yours is involved in some kind of shady page forwarding network somehow |
15:20 | <VN> | There are some IP on other hosting companies which - when opened point to a domain name which leads to this IP which leads to a strange advertisement platform called "https://com.com/" |
15:21 | <linbot> | New news from community: What do they mean by "IPv6 forwarding" and why is it "not available"? <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/16918> |
15:22 | <VN> | and the IP on other providers which point in the end to this platform page are having a scam/fraud redirection network - so you see, this is a bit complex |
15:46 | <VN> | btw. sent a reply - with the domaindiagnosis link which shows that that IP is connected to that url and a picture proof of the connection to "com.com" :) |
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16:02 | <@bbigger> | VN: thanks for the report, I've responded to your abuse email |
16:30 | <VN> | No problem. |
16:31 | <VN> | That guys are also ban avoiding. Having multiple accounts everywhere, you report them and they instantly re-route themselves elsewhere to continue their fraudulent activities |
16:32 | <VN> | their activity ranks from forwarding to ads with fake download to streaming/gambling pages which lead the subscriber into a 5 day trial where it is not obvious that after that 5 days a constant payment subscription is going on - and it is hard to get that criminals away from your bank account |
16:32 | <VN> | as written by many people in reviews of the various pages which are forwarded |
16:51 | <linbot> | New news from community: Linode Manager Suggestions <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/16919> |
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17:51 | <Zimsky> | bbigger is like the new bmartin |
17:51 | <Zimsky> | but bigger |
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20:03 | <marc> | hi |
20:04 | <marc> | quessome qestions about your plan compare |
20:04 | <marc> | and looking for recommendation |
20:05 | <marc> | anyone can help? |
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23:21 | <Woet> | no |
23:22 | <rsdehart> | not with that attitude |
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