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00:31<dwfreed>there goes OFTC's fremont server
00:31<greggypoo>my traceroute to fremont gets bounced between a bunch of dfw routers at cogentco
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00:32<dwfreed>mine dies after HE sjc2
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00:33<Archon810>Fremont down?
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00:33<hanksims>Fremont down?
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00:33<hanksims>Thank you.
00:33<Zimsky>everything is fine
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00:34<Zimsky>see even the status page shows it
00:35<dwfreed>the status page has to be manually updated
00:35<Zimsky>no dwfreed
00:35<Zimsky>the status page would never lie
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00:35<nyancat>roses are red, violets are blue, fremont is down, this channel will do
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00:35<eam>ah, fremont is down?
00:35<nyancat>Seems to be having some connectivity issues at present.
00:36<eam>great, just came to confirm it wasn't me. Have a good evening all
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00:36<nyancat>cheers mate
00:36<Hydroxide1>yup, basically same for me. good luck with the fix.
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00:36<Archon810>Called Linode support, all the admins are looking into it
00:36<Archon810> will be updated in a few mins
00:37<jme>it's updated now
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00:37<nyancat>they have ninjas working overnight.
00:38<greggypoo>i tried but i couldn't think of a better poem than nyancat's
00:38<linbot>New news from status: Connectivity Issues - Fremont <>
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00:39<Woet>Zimsky: you were wrong, the status page clearly shows issues
00:40<dwfreed>Zimsky can't speak at the moment
00:40<enc0de>yeah i'm having issues connecting to my linode in fremont for about the last 15 minutes
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00:40<nyancat>enc0de: Alright. see
00:40<enc0de>hopefully nothing too major and things are up again soon
00:40<enc0de>yeah saw that
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00:42<levlaz><3 hugops to whoever is on call right now.
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00:47<mlabs>hi all - any eta on freemont
00:47<dwfreed>it'll be fixed when it's fixed
00:47<mlabs>gee thnx
00:47<dwfreed>the status page has ways of notifying you when there are updates
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00:48<fpfpfdev>so how bad is the outage
00:48<mlabs>thnx for the tip dwfreed but our mail is impacted so it's a pita
00:48<dwfreed>time spent trying to figure out an eta is time not spent fixing the problem
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00:48<dwfreed>fpfpfdev: it appears that all of fremont is inaccessible
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00:49<fpfpfdev>any idea of cause yet? like tractorhitthecable cause or just general network being bad
00:49<hanksims>Power outage at the datacenter
00:49<levlaz>oh fun, that brings back a lot of great memories.
00:49<dwfreed>fmt1, anybody?
00:49<fpfpfdev>oh ugh
00:49<Peng_>fmt is up
00:50<Peng_>fmt1 is up* !!!
00:50<Peng_>bad typo Peng_
00:50<fpfpfdev>is it really
00:50<Peng_>hanksims: That's not proof the data center lost power though. I mean, it's likely, but. Could also have taken out the routers but not (many of) the servers.
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00:51<Peng_>fpfpfdev: Yes. fmt1 is really up, and it really was a bad typo
00:51<fpfpfdev>whats fmt1- one of the data centers?
00:51<fpfpfdev>because I can't reach the servers I use there
00:52<Peng_>fpfpfdev: It's a Hurricane Electric data center Linode used to use but no longer users because it sucked
00:52<Peng_>It's a useless ironic observation on my part
00:52<fpfpfdev>so now we're on suck centre #2
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00:53<Peng_>No, it's a lovely but only *almost* perfect data center. ;D
00:54<jme>assuming it's still there ;-
00:54<dwfreed>nyancat: you've been beaten: < furrywolf> oh where, oh where, did my linode go? it all started when I noticed my connection geting slow, with my packets unable to flow. checking the status page, it seems you have seen that this is so, but waiting is still causing me woe. any estimate on when it will resume its glow, if anyone should perchance to know?
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00:54<fpfpfdev>l33t rhymes
00:54<nyancat>dwfreed: i shall recoup my loss
00:55<nyancat>and emerge victorinyan
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00:55<Woet>dwfreed: why not? I didn't see any channel op taking any action.
00:56<linbot>New news from community: i can't opencart my website <>
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00:57<dwfreed>everyone with op in this channel is either: 1) not working and thus probably sleeping; 2) wading through the fresh mountain of tickets; or 3) working on trying to fix the problem in Fremont
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01:00<nyancat>dwfreed: eat shit.
01:00<Q3Man>so... anyone have any Fremont insights? any news on if its power or connectivity? Trying to determine how bad my night is going to be....
01:00<nyancat>also i might be drunk.
01:00<greggypoo>+1 nyancat
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01:02<dwfreed>nyancat: that doesn't quite rhyme very well
01:02<circlenet>We don't see the BGP networks advertised
01:02<nyancat>i let the liquor talk.
01:02<circlenet>for Freemont
01:02<nyancat>this is what happened.
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01:02<dwfreed>circlenet: the current theory is power outage
01:03<nyancat>dwfreed: I'm quite aware that it doesn't rhyme, but you know what, there was an attempt, and I will not be beaten at my own game
01:03<dwfreed>I mean, it's not a successful attempt unless it rhymes
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01:03<nyancat>challenge accepted.
01:04<Hydroxide1>nyancat: if we're analyzing closely, "while I ping tested, many a query" has the wrong scansion - The Raven is mostly in trochaic octameter, including the original of that line. nice work though!
01:05<nyancat>I tried
01:05<Woet>what the fuck am I reading
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01:05<nyancat>Woet: someone trying to show me up
01:05<nyancat>and i'm responding with drunken stupor
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01:05<nyancat>and failing miserably
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01:05<nyancat>vyanky: Good evening.
01:06<vyanky>my linode is not rebooting
01:06<archon810m>I really hope the servers are still up and just don't have network
01:06<nyancat>vyanky: what region is your linode located in?
01:06<Hydroxide1>vyanky: if it's in fremont, known outage, they're working on it
01:06<hanksims>vyanky: Don't reboot if you're in Fremont
01:06<nyancat>as per Hydroxide1, please reference
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01:06<vyanky>Fremont, CA, USA
01:07<transfervans>Hi All
01:07<nyancat>Please pay close attention to the link I've just pasted for your convenience.
01:07<vyanky>is there any problem in Fremont, CA, USA
01:07<nyancat>transfervans: Good evening.
01:07<Q3Man>has anyone said if its power or connectivity?
01:07<nyancat>vyanky: please review the link I've just pasted.
01:07<nyancat>Q3Man: There's been no further direction on exactly what's happened or what will happen
01:08<Peng_>archon810m: Hopefully. They may be up. They may not be. Sometimes *some* of them are up.
01:08<Q3Man>ok.. assuming nuclear attack by N. Korea until proven otherwise...
01:08<Hydroxide1>Q3Man: dwfreed said above that the current theory is a power outage, but I think the people who will give an official answer to that are busy fixing the problem now
01:08<hanksims>PG&E is down at their datacenter -- or what I believe to be their datacenter -- but the outage might have just taken out routers.
01:08<vyanky>We are aware of connectivity issues affecting Linodes in our Fremont data center and are currently investigating. We will continue to provide additional updates as this incident develops.
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01:08<kenyon_>reminds me of 2015...
01:08<jasonlshelton>why is there no backup generator at a big data center?
01:09<Q3Man>heck.. reminds me of a few months ago
01:09<hanksims>Yes indeed.
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01:09<hanksims>They do have backup generators. Sometimes things go wrong.
01:09<archon810m>These big dumb backup generators are always failing
01:09<TEAMGEN>tf happened
01:09<jasonlshelton>hanksims: clearly
01:09<greggypoo>i would imagine there is a back up generator but it is having a bad day
01:09<dwfreed>hanksims: your PG&E map does include where fmt2 is located, which is where Linode's Fremont facility is
01:09<Peng_>TEAMGEN: Don't know yet.
01:10<Peng_>Aren't there six backup generators
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01:10<Hydroxide1>TEAMGEN: if your linode is in Fremont, CA, USA, keep an eye on for official updates, and here for random blather/chatter. they're working on the outage
01:10<Peng_>Also, sometimes a UPS or ATS goes
01:10<kenyon_>there were apparently 8 generators according to that 2015 outage report
01:10<hanksims>dwfreed: Well, there ya go. The time was about right, too.
01:10<Peng_>kenyon_: Ah. Thanks. :D
01:10<Q3Man>.. but only 4 lights!
01:11<enc0de>8 generators, but how many of them were plugged in and fueled up?
01:11<levlaz>kenyon_: that was a good night -- I was on call at Linode back then. Didn't sleep for two days :)
01:11<Peng_>enc0de: All of them probably
01:11<jasonlshelton>so, what you are all saying is that right when there was a power outage, all of the generators and backup batteries failed all at there's a coincidence
01:11<dwfreed>they didn't all fail
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01:12<Q3Man>backup batteries only last 10-15 minutes under the best of conditions
01:12<dwfreed>all of HE's fmt2 core routers are still responding
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01:12<hanksims>jasonlshelton: They're usually very transparent with their postmortems. So we'll see.
01:12<kenyon_> still respons
01:12<Peng_>kenyon_: That's in fmt1 :D
01:12<dwfreed>that's in fmt1
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01:13<jasonlshelton>hanksims: yeah, i'm just kinda being a punk, I know they are working hard
01:13<Q3Man>send the intern down to IRC to let us know what's going on :)
01:13<kenyon_> responds :P
01:13<kenyon_>only on legacy IP though
01:14<nyancat>@ dwfreed this any better?
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01:14<TEAMGEN>nyancat: thats beautiful
01:15<dwfreed>kenyon_: you mean tserv1?
01:15<nyancat>the last two sentences do not make any sence
01:15<kenyon_>same for tserv1
01:15<vyanky>when Fremont data center will start again?
01:16<dwfreed>when it's fixed
01:16<dwfreed>nyancat: line 2 and 4 still do not rhyme
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01:17<dyous87>hello all. are there any linode reps here who could give me an eta on the fremont datacenter outage?
01:17<kenyon_>finally my ssh sessions are starting to time out
01:18<dwfreed>nyancat: also line 4, 5, and 6 all have to rhyme
01:18<dwfreed>dyous87: when it's fixed
01:18<jme>i'd say the outage has already arrived
01:18<circlenet>I have some other equipment in a cage at HE Freemont it's working
01:18<dwfreed>jme: hah
01:19<dwfreed>circlenet: fremont2?
01:19<circlenet>but the provider *might* have extra batterys
01:20<dyous87>my servers in freemont have been down ~45 minutes now. i know there is an outage, does anyone have any additional info on the situation?
01:20<TEAMGEN>should have set up a failover
01:20<Hydroxide1>dyous87: only what's at the status link
01:20<dwfreed>dyous87: we only have theories; current theory is power outage
01:20<Affliction>dyous87: There was a rumor of a power failure, no idea if the linodes themselves are affected.
01:21<circlenet>Yeah atleast some things are running at fm2
01:23<dwfreed>STATUS: PG&E is assessing the cause at the outage location.
01:23<dwfreed>LAST UPDATED: JUN 21, 1:14 AM
01:23<dwfreed>from PG&E's outage map
01:24<dwfreed>Linode posted this to the status page about 6 minutes ago: "Our team is still in communications with our upstream provider to determine the cause of this outage. We are continuing our investigation and will provide additional updates as the issue develops."
01:24<Peng_>Does HE have their VoIP system in fmt2 now?
01:25<enc0de>doesn't sound like it will be fixed quickly
01:26<circlenet>I can ping which is an HE router my traffic passes through at fmt
01:26<circlenet>doesn't mean the whole building has power
01:27<circlenet>it might be on a battery and will pop off in a but
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01:27<Peng_>Surely the batteries would be dead by now
01:28<Peng_>Unless they run the routers on a separate, overprovisioned UPS
01:28<circlenet>Could be
01:28<hanksims>Something seems to be happening with my Linodes. ssh timing out.
01:29<circlenet>BGP just came back up
01:29<circlenet>I'm seeing the networks in my router tables now
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01:30<circlenet>Interesting I see the networks from GTT now but not from Tata. Still no access but something changed.
01:31<levlaz>dwfreed: I was in the middle of packaging up that mysql-utilities thing on my linode when the outage happened. I hope the disk is still ok because naturally I didn't commit any of my changes. :)
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01:32<dwfreed>levlaz: lol
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01:32<Peng_>Hey those are Fremont people joining
01:33<Affliction>no ping reply from mine yet
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01:34<Peng_>Soon :D
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01:35<dru>are we still down in fremont?
01:35<archon810m>I just got an email from my server
01:36<Peng_>Some folks just came up
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01:36<enc0de>yeah i can get to my linode now
01:36<fpfpfdev>not mine
01:36<hanksims>Some but not all of my sites up
01:36<dru>was it power outage or network outage or both?
01:36<Affliction>enc0de: was it rebooted?
01:36<levlaz>dru: power outage per status page
01:37<dru>I can ping my nodebalancer but not my nodes
01:37<archon810m>Woo didn't reboot
01:37<archon810m>2 out of 4 db servers are up
01:38<archon810m>And with my luck, 0 of 5 web boxes
01:38<enc0de>nope my linode wasn't rebooted
01:38<archon810m>And it's not a master db either
01:38<archon810m>I fear the other 7 were rebooted
01:38<archon810m>Happened this way last outage
01:39<dru>yikes, it took an hour to figure out network was down due to power outage?
01:40<archon810m>Linode manager still says all 9 servers are up
01:40<archon810m>There's hope
01:40<circlenet>Linode DNS server are back up
01:40<Peng_>Everyone was busy
01:40<circlenet>at FM2
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01:40<jme>it was dark
01:40<levlaz>They were probably waiting for HE to respond as well. They only have remote hands.
01:40<dwfreed>archon810m: if the host is not up, the status is not updated
01:42<wpidea>Hi guys, my VPS are down, are yours running?
01:43<linbot>Peng_: I am connected to OFTC as linbot.
01:43<linbot>Think something is wrong? Check out
01:43<dwfreed>Peng_: I'd fix that, but I don't have the access :/
01:43<wpidea>oh,god, Fremont again?
01:43<dwfreed>it only happens once every 7 years
01:44<dwfreed>or months
01:44<dyous87>1 of my db servers is back up, still waiting on my app server
01:44<Peng_>dyous87: What's the uptime?
01:44<dwfreed>fwiw, neither the speedtest server nor the lish gateway are accessible at the moment
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01:45<Peng_>Oh dear
01:45<dyous87>@Peng_ 33 days uptime, wasn't rebooted. service returned to it about 7 minutes ago
01:45<Peng_>Great :-)
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01:46<Hydroxide1>mine is back now - thanks for working on recovery! good luck with cleanup, postmortem, and remediation. 'night all
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01:46<dwfreed>also OFTC's ircd host running in Fremont is still down
01:46<BlkStormy>1/5 are back up for me
01:47<archon810m>No changes for me. 2/9 up
01:47<jrhunt>looks like pg&e cleared the outage from their map
01:48<dwfreed>jrhunt: there's still an outage, it's just much smaller, and HE is no longer in the affected area
01:49<dwfreed>the nice thing is that PG&E's outage map is browser-timezone-aware
01:49<dwfreed>so I don't have to remember to add 3 hours
01:49<jrhunt>ah, there it is. their refresh apparently doesn't always redraw properly. whatevs.
01:50<jrhunt>it sounds like kvm hosts are being powered back on?
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01:50<archon810m>Someone seeing fresh boots?
01:50<Affliction>most people have reported no reboot
01:50<Peng_>Has *anyone* reported a reboot?
01:50<Affliction>Mine hasn't come back yet
01:50<Peng_>Three or four people have said no reboots and nobody else has specified.
01:50<levlaz>im on fremont964 -- nothing yet
01:50<Peng_>I'm not optimistic, but I don't think it's been confirmed yet
01:53<BlkStormy>The 1/5 linodes that have come back for me did not restart
01:54<archon810m>Do other locations have this many serious issues?
01:54<archon810m>I don't really follow their uptimes
01:54<jrhunt>is fremont a particularly problematic datacenter?
01:54<TEAMGEN>seems like it
01:54<jrhunt>i've been in ATL forever and don't recall having lots of issues
01:54<Peng_>Not really.
01:55<Peng_>jrhunt: HURRICANE IRMA
01:55<jrhunt>it could just be that i have a client with monitoring dialed in quite tight on this particular setup
01:55<Peng_>These kinds of incidents are so rare that it's hard to say, without detailed information, which data centers are "better" and which are luckier.
01:56<Peng_>but Atlanta is terrible
01:56<jrhunt>again, ATL is my personal site, and i really don't care much for its availability compared to sleep and other fun things to do not on computers
01:57<Affliction>fremont used to have a reputation
01:57<Peng_>They literally moved Fremont to a new building. Less of a reputation since.
01:58<Affliction>Personally, I haven't noticed it being particularly awful since ~2011
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01:58<Affliction>And 2011 was before the move.
01:58<Affliction>Perhaps I just have low expectations!
01:58<dwfreed>shit happens
01:59<dwfreed>it's when shit happens too often that it's time to move
01:59<Affliction>Pretty much
01:59<archon810m>Fremont is getting it all over again
01:59<dwfreed>I don't think "too often" is anywhere near being reached with fmt2
02:01<jrhunt>we got bit back in feb by a generator autostart failure
02:01<jrhunt>that was fun
02:02<Peng_>Who's we?
02:02<Peng_>like Fremont?
02:02<Peng_>I don't remember that :P
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02:02<dwfreed>i do
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02:03<Affliction>1738 packets transmitted, 5 received, 99% packet loss, time 1778153ms
02:03<dwfreed>the generator's starter battery was dead, iirc
02:03<Affliction>hm, port 22, connection refused. Think I got rebooted
02:03<jrhunt>we = my instances in fremont
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02:04<Peng_>Lish is up over IPv4
02:04<Affliction>Yeah, linode manager says I got rebooted.
02:04<dwfreed>yep, just came back
02:05<dwfreed>speedtest is still down and charm is still down
02:07<BlkStormy>2/5 linodes up for me now
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02:07<dwfreed>"Lassie initiated boot: My Debian 3.0r1 (Small) Profile" oh man this Linode is old
02:09<fpfpfdev>0/2 :(
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02:10<jrhunt>do linode power-on ops count as "migration" operations from the point-of-view of the linode manager interface?
02:10<archon810m>A migration would involve moving your data
02:11<wpidea>I can reach my vps via putty, but website is still not accessible
02:11<dwfreed>because storage is generally locally attached, Linodes are fixed to a specific host
02:11<jrhunt>if i click the "free upgrade avail!" it says there's 215 migrations ahead of me in queue
02:11<jrhunt>seems like an odd time for 200+ people to decide to upgrade :/
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02:11<dwfreed>wpidea: is your Linode's webserver running
02:11<hanksims>They took away the WE ARE AWARE OF THE PROBLEM ON THIS LINODE message on my manager page, but one of my machines still ain't up
02:12<Affliction>I guess those people didn't know about the upgrade and only just now logged in?
02:12<Peng_>They might be scheduling migrations for people on iffy hardware?
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02:12<Peng_>E.g. if a server came back up but lost a drive
02:12<dwfreed>jrhunt: doesn't for me; people log into the manager to see why their linode is down and see there's a free upgrade
02:12<json>re fremont.. data center operator issues?
02:12<dwfreed>also what Peng_ said
02:12<dwfreed>json: power outage
02:13<nyanev>@linode this is lame, Our servers are down for 2 hours
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02:13<dwfreed>nyanev: shit happens
02:13<Peng_>No one's happy about it, but you'll probably be up soon
02:13<Affliction>nyanev: they slowly seem to be coming back, mine just did.
02:13<dwfreed>Peng_: i'm happy about it
02:14<Peng_>dwfreed: I'm glad everyone is running new kernels now, but this was a little extreme
02:14<nyanev>Peng_: I hope so
02:14<dwfreed>Peng_: rofl
02:14<Affliction>Yeah, there is that little element of excitement on an outage. "Will I have to restore from a backup!"
02:14<TEAMGEN>what backup?
02:15<hanksims>Aw damn, I guess they rebooted me.
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02:15<Affliction>Yeah, there's a nice hole in my munin graphs
02:16<TEAMGEN>should i do the free upgrade right now?
02:16<hanksims>They've rebooted my Linode. Praying they didn't stick me in the goddamn free upgrade queue
02:17<archon810m>I'm so looking forward to glusterfs eating up all the CPU for the next 4 hours after boot
02:17<wpidea>my websites are back now
02:18<json>mine went up.. then went out again..
02:18<dwfreed>charm and speedtest are still down :(
02:18<TEAMGEN>still no response from mine
02:19<nyanev>frfrom mine too
02:19<json>misery loves company.. @linode =)
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02:21<dwfreed>woo, charm has a boot job now
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02:22<archon810m>How have none of my 7 booted yet
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02:24<dwfreed>and charm is back
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02:25<archon810m>1 just came up
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02:33<lilytrade>my server down
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02:33<TEAMGEN>1 server just came back for me
02:33<lilytrade>when come back
02:33<linbot>Think something is wrong? Check out
02:33<Affliction>Power outage at fremont, they seem to slowly be coming back up
02:33<TEAMGEN>finally one is up
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02:33<yhager>dashboard says server is up, but lish says it is down..
02:33<lilytrade>why so slow
02:34<Q4Man>"There are 301 Linode migrations queued in front of you"
02:34<dwfreed>because there were probably a lot of hosts that went down and need to be checked that they're okay
02:34<lilytrade>It affect a lot of owers there
02:36<dwfreed>yhager: that can happen; I probably can't say why without getting in trouble
02:36<dwfreed>yhager: it'll be updated soon
02:36<lilytrade>it take so long time
02:36<lilytrade>my 3 site all affected
02:36<yhager>dwfreed: thanks. don't get in trouble for me.. I guess I'll wait for things to stabilize
02:37<jme>ya gonna let a little trouble scare ya? ;-
02:37<dwfreed>jme: it's a first rule of fight club kind of thing
02:37<jme>rules? what are those?
02:38<Peng_>the first rule of Fight Club is the GRU publishes Fight Club's listserv on WikiLeaks
02:38<dwfreed>in this case it's protected by a legally binding agreement
02:38<fpfpfdev>comon already been down for a while now
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02:39<jme>i see - like the stormy daniels thing ;-
02:39<dwfreed>yeah, but I didn't get any hush money :(
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02:39<jme>or hopefully the other part
02:42<lilytrade>fuck slow
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02:44<TEAMGEN>rage quit
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02:46<dwfreed>speedtest is up
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02:47<vyanky>any update on Fremont data center?
02:47<serverDown>Server id down ?
02:47<dwfreed>vyanky: things are coming back up
02:47<vyanky>ok thanks for update
02:47<TEAMGEN>waiting on one more
02:48<TEAMGEN>both mine are up now
02:49<TEAMGEN>gl guys
02:49<TEAMGEN>have a good night
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02:49<nyanev>0/3 :(
02:50<jrhunt>1/7 up, whee!
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02:53<FastLizard4>1/3 here, but at least the one that's up is my important one :P
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02:57<Archon810>4/9 up
02:57<Archon810>5/9 up
02:57<Archon810>6/9 now
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02:58<nate>unfortunately only got one at fremont and it's still down
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03:01<Archon810>replication broke on all slaves
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03:11<yhager>mine is up too
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03:12<nate>anyone want to trade me their up linode? I'd love to get back to sleep already lol
03:15<json>2/2.. ciao!
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03:18<Archon810>it's been real, y'all
03:18<Archon810>time to fix replication and sleep
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03:18<FastLizard4>yay 3/3
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03:20<BlkStormy>Just 1 more and I can go back to bed...
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03:40<darwin>if anyone runs Slackware on a linode with IPv6, do you recall if it's usually best to leave /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules or stop IPv6, delete that file, restart? Linode staff had me do that at one time, which restored my IPv6 connection, but later, it may have been best to leave that file...
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03:44<darwin>my linode is at Fremont and is back up, but now I have to figure out how to restore that connectivity
03:44<darwin>on every reboot, IPv6 is down
03:46<grawity>when does it come back up?
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03:50<dwfreed>darwin: pastebin the following: 'ip addr show' 'sysctl -a | grep ipv6'
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03:54<darwin>it's a lot of output:
03:58<dwfreed>you've statically configured a lot of addresses, so the kernel skips doing SLAAC
03:58<darwin>I'm not sure what all that means
03:58<darwin>there's no automatic IPv6 on Slackware
03:59<grawity>there is
03:59<grawity>unless slackware deliberately remove it from their kernels
03:59<grawity>which is... fairly unlikely imho
03:59<darwin>well not more than one address
03:59<dwfreed>I'm assuming slackware has an /etc/sysctl.conf ? if so, put 'net.ipv6.conf.eth0.max_addresses=32' in it, and do 'sysctl net.ipv6.conf.eth0.max_addresses=32' as a command as well
04:00<darwin>yes, it has that
04:00<darwin>wait, no it doesn't
04:00<darwin>I saw something that looked similar
04:01<dwfreed>do you have any initscripts that call 'sysctl --system' or similar?
04:02<dwfreed>relatedly, if you run 'sysctl --system' does it work? (work here means no output)
04:02<darwin>yes, and some check for the file you mentioned
04:02<darwin>so I guess I could make it with just that
04:03<darwin>I added that and did the command
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04:07<darwin>I think it's working now! :)
04:08<dwfreed>yep, responds here
04:09<darwin>thanks for explaining that; I'll look up max_addresses
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04:14<underscorenorth>Good morning.
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04:15<underscorenorth>That was pretty wild haha
04:17<linbot>New news from community: [ Fremont Power Outage ]ⁿ <>
04:17<grawity>darwin: tbh the address can be configured statically as well, not just via SLAAC
04:17<grawity>darwin: but it still needs to be present in order for your /64 to work
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04:23<Woet>everyone move your Linodes to fremont now
04:23<Woet>statistically its less likely to be affected by the net outage
04:23<Woet>next *
04:24<darwin>I don't know what the difference is. I just use an unofficial script to bring up addresses, that people wrote in the Slackware Usenet newsgroup
04:24<darwin>which I modified
04:24*dwfreed beats Woet with the troll bat
04:24<Woet>at least it's not a +q
04:24<Woet>like some other losers get
04:25<dwfreed>his mistake was trolling when customers needed real answers
04:25<dwfreed>besides, there are no girls on the internet
04:26<Woet>what about bhanks
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04:29<cbernard>I just added a volume to my Linode using the Manage Volumes option at the dashboard, but does anyone know the pricing for external volumes? It's not listed on the pricing page of the site.
04:29<bmartin_>.10 a gb per month
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04:36<bmartin_>No problem!
04:38<dwfreed>bmartin_: nice tail
04:38<bmartin_>yeah apparently I need to fix my name or I was let go
04:38<bmartin_>either way
04:38<dwfreed>you're probably at work, so I doubt it was the latter
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05:41<bmartin>bmartin is back
05:44<zhonghuali>cannot connect to my vps probably due to wrong configuration in /etc/fstab file, is there a way to rescue?
05:44<grawity>reboot to the Finnix rescue image
05:44<Peng_>zhonghuali: How do you know it's /etc/fstab?
05:45<zhonghuali>Just guess.
05:45<dwfreed>it's best not to guess
05:46<dwfreed>log into lish and start investigating
05:46<linbot>LISH allows you to perform certain actions without having to log in to the Linode Manager. LISH's primary function is to allow you to access your Linode's console, even if networking is disabled.
05:46<dwfreed>bmartin: /msg ChanServ op #linode
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05:48<zhonghuali>I tried to reboot the rescue, but still cannot connect with glish. no terminal popup .
05:49<dwfreed>finnix doesn't use glish as far as I know
05:49<grawity>connect with the SSH one then
05:49<dwfreed>you have to use regular lish
05:55<zhonghuali>I created a new volume, and mounted it with /etc/fstab. then I removed the new volume. but forget to edit /etc/fstab. after rebooting, I cannot connect it via all ways.
05:57<zhonghuali>In the Rescue page, there still is a volume (with name 'data' in it).
06:00<zhonghuali> [ TIME ] Timed out waiting for device dev-di…csi\x2d0Linode_Volume_data.device. [DEPEND] Dependency failed for File System C…sk/by-id/scsi-0Linode_Volume_data. [DEPEND] Dependency failed for /mnt/data. [DEPEND] Dependency failed for Local File Systems. Starting ebtables ruleset management... Starting Set console font and keymap...
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06:01<zhonghuali>this is the logview by lish.
06:06<Zimsky>Woet: oh damn gee whizz I feel like a downright ninny now
06:10<Woet>dwfreed: remember what I PMed you the other day?
06:10<Woet>dwfreed: now would be a great time to apply that
06:13<dwfreed>You have not PMed me
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08:17<linbot>New news from community: How to remove linode ipaddess from spam database <>
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09:24<VetraNyx>hello, as i am not getting any response over mail.. what happened to my abuse report of
09:24<VetraNyx>solved? or still in progress?
09:26<@bmartin>you send an abuse report to
09:27<VetraNyx>with mail vetranyx @
09:27<@bmartin>Where did you send this abuse report?
09:28<@bmartin>Did you send it to If not please do with any pertinent logs and we can take a look
09:28<VetraNyx>have sent there
09:28<@bmartin>ok excellent someone will be looking into this
09:29<VetraNyx>no no... it is an old one but i never got a response if solved or not ;)
09:29<@bmartin>what was the nature of the abuse report? Usually unless it's copyright there isn't a follow up once the customer has resolved the issue.
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09:30<bartwe>o hai, trying out my ipv6 stuff
09:31<VetraNyx>last answer from jun 11
09:31<VetraNyx>Hello, We have yet to hear back from our customer. Once we have more information, we will update you
09:31<@bmartin>Can you follow up via they are going to have access to more details than I will
09:31<bartwe>the ipv6 address listed on the publics ip section can be reached from linodes in the same datacenter
09:31<bartwe>but not from linodes in another datacenter
09:31<bartwe>and not from the public internet
09:32<VetraNyx>i tried - but i guess my mails hit spam
09:32<bartwe>maybe i'm missing a detail on how ipc6 is supposed to work
09:32<Peng_>bartwe: It's supposed to already Just Work
09:33<VetraNyx>@bmartin sent a new one now
09:33<bartwe>Peng_ that is what i was thinking, but its not ;)
09:33<Peng_>bartwe: Can you pastebin "ip -6 a" and "ip -6 r"?
09:33<@bmartin>VetraNyx I have someone looking into this now on my end
09:34<VetraNyx>Thanks. Just curious what was the outcome, as that abuse was quite a messy one
09:34<VetraNyx>@bmartin perhaps someone can check if my mail has arrived or hit spam ;)
09:35<@sjacobs>VetraNyx: i can confirm we got it. we're looking into it and will have a response after we take a closer look.
09:37<Peng_>bartwe: That looks... not actually wrong
09:37<bartwe>Peng_: two linodes at the 'London, England, UK' datacenter can ping to it, others can't
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09:38<bartwe>i think the london site might have ipv6 misconfigured
09:38<VetraNyx>@sjacobs the Ip is populated again btw
09:39<VetraNyx>@sjacobs so most likely my report was denied
09:39<@bmartin>Or the customer took appropriate action and remedied the situation
09:40<Peng_>bartwe: Maybe. Have you double checked the firewall?
09:40<bartwe>i have yeah
09:41<bartwe>machine a and b can ping eachother both in london, home, c and d can't, home, c, and d can ping eachother, i am using the public ipv6 not the private/lan one
09:41<bartwe>traceroute stops at 2001:668:0:3:ffff:1:0:2ce
09:41<bartwe>but dunno what machine is that
09:42<Peng_>It just started working.
09:43<VetraNyx>@bmartin could also be. Anyway, looking forward for a reply which clears that up ;)
09:43<bartwe>... it did
09:43<Peng_>I was pinging it and boom.
09:43<@bmartin>VetraNyx we are looking at it now to make sure and you should have a reply shortly
09:43<bartwe>(did a linode engineer pick up on this conversation perhaps ? if so, thanks for the fix ;)
09:44<Peng_>Technically this IRC conversation probably did pass through the London routers at some point. Maybe the router is sentient. :D
09:44<frailtyy>Don't say that.
09:44<frailtyy>I don't want the computers coming for me.
09:46<VetraNyx>@bmartin thanks :)
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10:14<veritaseum>I need help!
10:15<veritaseum>I need help!
10:15<Woet>I need help!
10:15<veritaseum>I lost access to my email
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10:30<Whiskey`Wonka>hello. anyone know if there was a event that caused some linodes to reboot last night around 22:28 pst ?
10:31<Whiskey`Wonka>Sorry I mean 21:25 pst
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10:34<Whiskey`Wonka>So linode doesnt run redundant power? thats.... oh my
10:35<Woet>Whiskey`Wonka: Linode doesn't run the DC, and I'm sure the DC does.
10:35<Woet>Whiskey`Wonka: apparently it failed for whatever reason
10:35<Peng_>Not everything went wrong
10:36<@bmartin>Yes, we do. However, even with these in place, there was still a partial power outage and our teams are working with the data center to determine the "why?" behind that. This information isn't available to us at the moment, and for that we apologize, but as soon as we do have more details to share, a postmortem will be made available on our Status page.
10:36<Peng_>Not everything went down*
10:36<Woet>wait, Linode uses the HE datacenter?
10:37<Whiskey`Wonka>bmartin: thanks for the info.
10:37<@bmartin>No problem!
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10:37<Woet>HE is not known for their.. outstanding quality, are they?
10:37<Woet>or did things change in the past few years
10:38<Woet>weren't they like the ultra budget guys, undercutting even cogent?
10:38<Whiskey`Wonka>Over all, I was just worried that I didnt have a ticket for a scheduled reboot and didnt see anything related, and i keep forgeting the status page
10:38<Whiskey`Wonka>Woet: for IP services HE has been far more reliable in most markets for me then c*
10:38<@bmartin>We also could have communicated better. We appreciate your patience and also your understanding
10:38<Whiskey`Wonka>cheap as hell sure
10:39<Whiskey`Wonka>bmartin: in fairness linodes hardware level failures have been darn rare (for me)
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10:45<Whiskey`Wonka>well at least this DC is still standing. the last DC event I remember right now was the power room failure in houston
10:46<Peng_>Thankfully Linode was 200 miles from that
10:46<Peng_>though using the same provider!
10:48<Whiskey`Wonka>I wasnt using linode much back then
10:50<Whiskey`Wonka>that particular even took down both my email servers, cause I didnt know that my backup server (hosted to a partner compay) /was in the same damn DC/
10:51<Peng_>Oh no :(
10:52<Whiskey`Wonka>Oh Yes <coolaid man enters power room>
10:53<Whiskey`Wonka>I learned real fast to not trust IT people about where crap is hosted and to get proof.
10:58<Whiskey`Wonka>welp, thanks for your time and info. time to go assemble a tower and upset the neighbors. Something about playing Sabaton loud enough to hear it over the welding grinding ect, they just dont like.
11:00<linbot>New news from status: Scheduled Network Maintenance - Frankfurt <>
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12:06<BigBox>Morning! I was wondering if Linode offers the ability to create/destroy VM's via an API at all?
12:07<@ctarquini>BigBox: Sure do! and (deprecated) should get you on your way
12:07<@mcintosh>!point ctarquini
12:07<linbot>mcintosh: Point given to ctarquini. (2)
12:07<@bmartin>So fast
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12:38<@bmartin>How can we help you?
12:39<namero999>I joined to ask a question about the feaseability of something I would like to achieve on linode
12:39<linbot>If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read
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12:40<namero999>basically I would like to reach my linode via an IP, but have the outbound traffic of such linode go through a different interface/ip. on other cloud providers I managed to do so with the concept of "elastic ip" or "floating ip" but I'm not sure linode has such a concept
12:40<namero999>my specific use case is this
12:41<namero999>I have a squid, and my app goes through it when it performs requests towards external service providers
12:41<namero999>assuming that my squid has ip x.x.x.1
12:42<namero999>I would like that the service provider sees my traffic as a different ip, x.x.x.9 for instance
12:42<@sjacobs>you could most definitely set up a squid proxy.
12:42<namero999>the squid proxy is already up and running
12:42<@sjacobs>each Linode is going to have it's own unique static ip address. it's not going to change, but each Linode will have a unique one.
12:43<namero999>yep so far so good
12:44<@sjacobs>any other questions to see if what you are trying to do is feasable?
12:44<namero999>yes, I can maybe elaborate a bit more. I want to understand if I can achieve the "feature parity" with my other cloud providers, specifically aws and digital ocean. with a "floating ip" I basically have 2 networks interfaces on the box. I managed to configure squid to use the second interface for outbound traffic.
12:45<namero999>the reason is so that
12:45<namero999>I can always keep the "real" ip of the machine to access it myself
12:45<namero999>while being able to assign a different ip on the outbound traffic
12:45<@sjacobs>oh. so you just need two ip addresses per Linode?
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12:45<namero999>yes. I know about the failover ip on linode
12:46<namero999>but I don't know if I can "change" it on demand like I do with elastic ip, where I can just "detach", get another one, and "attach".
12:46<namero999>no problem to automatize everything with ansible on my side
12:46<namero999>just want to know if I can achieve this setup on linode
12:47<@sjacobs>the second ip address would need approval from support, which requires technical justification. if you provide some more details as to why you need it in a ticket, you may get it.
12:47<ericoc>you get one IPv4 address per linode. you don't get to simply burn through addresses and unassign and reassign to get a new one at will however... you _can_ swap IPv4 addresses between linodes if you have more than a single linode, but you don't get unlimited numbers of IPv4 addresses per linode
12:47<@sjacobs>if you could use ipv6, though, a /64 pool of addresses would let you swap addresses all day.
12:47<ericoc>a "floating" IPv4 address is sort of just a gimmick/buzzword by other providers
12:48<ericoc>an IP address is an IP address, calling it "floating" just makes it sound cooler
12:48<namero999>I might need 2/3 different ip addresses per year, and only one "per time" (so, no 2/3 concurrently)
12:49<ericoc>why do you need to cycle through multiple IP addresses?
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12:50<namero999>in order to protect myself from faulty rate limits on one of the providers (from which we got the permission to do such an operation because we have the ability to do so, while they inherited a certain infrastructure which is less prone to change)
12:52<Peng_>No offense to you, but that is so gross, wow
12:52<namero999>so if every tot or so the ip changes, we don't risk being cut off (especially during spikes). but I would like not to have change also my app configuration. so I would like to reach my proxy via a static ip, but having flexibility to change the outbound traffic ip
12:52<Woet>you have permission but you still need to change IP to get around their rate limits?
12:52<Woet>that doesnt add up
12:52<Woet>anyways, thats not correct justification, so you can't do that.
12:52<namero999>meh, I've seen wierder stuff :) anyway, it's like that. I change ip, everyone is happy.
12:53<ericoc>you might allegedly have "permission" from some provider (who is still rate limiting you??), but i wouldn't blame linode for not giving you permission to do that...
12:53<Peng_>Woet: It adds up. "We configured fail2ban wrong but you have permission to ban-evade."
12:53<Woet>Peng_: lol.
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12:53<namero999>basically only "when it's needed" which can be said to be 2/3 time a year, following certain spikes.
12:53<namero999>so far the solution was to spin a new node
12:54<namero999>I managed to achieve this on our DO fleet, would love to do something similar on linode, just for "feature parity" so that I can forget about differencies. on linode it's only a box
12:55<namero999>squid has the tcp_outgoing_address that does the trick. just need this second ip, and possibly, a way to cycle it, ideally via api
12:55<ericoc>hahaha, you're definitely not going to get an api to burn ip addresses
12:56<namero999>a rate limit of "once per year" would be more that enough for this use case :)
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12:57<Peng_>I don't suppose they support IPv6
12:57<namero999>also why burn? (genuine question). if you "release" an ip once you are done, is it burned?
12:57<ericoc>if you got it blacklisted from a service? it's absolutely burned
12:59<ericoc>you're literally "releasing" it because you misused and subsequently ruined it
13:01<namero999>it's blacklisted by that service but it's not that you can't use it anymore. I get a new IP address from my internet provider each day, but I don't blame my neighboor for the ip I get the day after :)
13:02<@sjacobs>have we established they don't accept ipv6?
13:02<millisa>i think we have established that they dont really want namero999's traffic since they've tried to ban his traffic repeatedly.
13:03<namero999>it's not established but I am ready to bet they are not (ancient, ugly stuff there....) anyway will check.
13:03<namero999>in the unlikely case they do.... where should I look into, to get closer to my solution?
13:05<@mcintosh>namero999: you can spin up second linode and swap IPs
13:05<@mcintosh>spin up a second linode, even
13:05<namero999>interesting. will look into it
13:05<namero999>spinning up a new node is what we do now
13:06<namero999>what this requires, is that the proxy configuration of our backend propagates to acknowledge the new node (and aventually decomission the old one)
13:07<namero999>the improvement here would be to always keep the same node (so that no new configuration needs to propagate to the backend) while changing the outbound ip.... maybe some DNS wizardry might help, but it's not my territory
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13:38<linbot>New news from community: How do I switch from a commercial SSL to Let's Encrypt? <>
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13:46<mrrobot>hello everyone
13:48<mrrobot>how you doing?
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13:53<VetraNyx>@bmartin @sjacobs i have replied to the mail again
13:53<VetraNyx>perhaps you find that information here interesting.
13:59<VetraNyx>in short words... - was used earlier for quite some fraud domains - has moved them now to their own IP - on Amazon ( and sell them - as far as i can see and say, they have been responsible for many compromised domains - and now where they are defunct.. either reported or taken offline, they make money out of them.
14:01<VetraNyx>just pick a random domain from the list, look on abuseipdb - and then open the domain.. the end-redirect is - where they are offered for sale then
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14:03<user33>I am looking for the email address of the marketing/PR team at Linode. Can anyone assist?
14:04<millisa> is usually pretty good about getting things to the right place
14:05<user33>kinda feels spammy to send to there, but okay. ty
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15:11<Eugene>Every day I'm Linodin'
15:12*Q3Man wasn't Linodin' around Fremont last night for a few hours
15:13<millisa>did anyone find what the official excuse was from HE this time?
15:22<Peng_>Linode hasn't announced it yet
15:25<Q3Man>Can we engage in rampant speculation?
15:25<millisa>my money is on ats failure
15:25<millisa>it's their goto move
15:26<Q3Man>my biggest problem is that just a few months ago the same thing happened at fremont.... did they not make any changes after that disaster?
15:27<millisa>maybe the changes are what broke it
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15:31<Peng_>You can be unlucky as hell twice
15:31<Peng_>Or totally incompetent *and* unlucky :D
15:32<millisa>this was the one from Feb: that says 'autostart controller had failed'; which probably wasn't the ats failing I guess
15:35<Peng_>Changing the subject to focus on me, that's why I'm so upset about the Atlanta Hurricane Irma outage! The data center is run by clowns, but it was actually a weird ATS failure, which was probably totally unpredictable and not their fault. So I can't blame them. >:|
15:36<Q3Man>I can understand crazy failures... Having the same failure twice in 4 months just looks like they don't care about actually fixing the problem
16:09<nyancat>The official excuse was "power outage" but it doesn't get any more specific than that
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16:11<joolsr>is the linode manager beta client still available ?
16:11<millisa> you mean?
16:12<joolsr>ah ok i'll give it a try
16:13<joolsr>there was a link from the old manager but i couldnt see it
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17:32<nyancat>Question - Would linode ever restrict outbound traffic on a virtual server?
17:33<Eugene>Historically, only the Atlanta datacenter was subject to outbound packet filters, as a byproduct of using the datacenter-provided IP transit. That is no longer the case since Linode runs their own ASN.
17:34<Eugene>However, "would they ever do X" is a very, very loaded question. Abuse cases would definitely be subject to limiting
17:34<nyancat>My proxy scrape seems to be producing way more "bad" proxies as of late, I've tested this by collecting samples and running them through an external judge, and approximately 40-50% of tests yielded positive results
17:36<nyancat>Then again, my issue could simply be explained as the end-user restricting traffic from Linode, in which case there's not much I can do short of attempting to switch the IP
17:37<Eugene>Good luck with that
17:38<nyancat>Thanks! It might also be the script I'm running locally to judge - It's years old and hasn't been maintained much
17:39<nyancat>(Just so we're clear - These proxies aren't being used for abuse, they're being processed and sent for listing on RBL)
17:40<nyancat>(Just so we're clear - These proxies aren't being used for abuse, they're being processed and sent for listing on RBL)
17:40<nyancat>er, sorry for the double message.
17:41<nyancat>meant to up+enter on my terminal and accidentally did so here.
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20:30<linbot>New news from community: DNS problem: NXDOMAIN looking up A for domain <>
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20:54<Q3Man>hmm.. anyone notice that those forum links from linbot don't actually work anymore?
20:54<Peng_>Which links?
20:54<Peng_> works for me
20:55<Q3Man>ah.. its this web irc client... it's embedding the ending > as part of the link
20:55<Peng_>Oh. :X
20:56<linbot>New news from zombo: Welcome <>
20:56<millisa>The impossible is possible
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21:38<@mcintosh>The unattainable is unknown at Linodecom.
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21:47<Woet>stability at fremont is pretty unattainable apparently
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21:52<Peng_>Woet: you don't know that for sure
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22:55<retro|blah>Well, good to know that my Linode rebooting was NOT due to a localized issue. Though that leaves me guessing where my compiles left off last night. Hm
22:56<Zimsky>you don't stream your tmux sessions to another server and take snapshots every minute?
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23:00<@mcintosh>!boo Woet
23:00<linbot>mcintosh: Point taken from woet! (17)
23:10<linbot>New news from community: why now i can not ssh to my domain in china <>
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