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#linode IRC Logs for 2018-07-05

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02:30<vinay_>hi
02:33<millisa>greetings
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02:56<rsdehart>ok then, thanks for stopping by
02:56<rsdehart>I mean, do people really just come in here for the atmosphere? That's got to be it
03:00<Solver>Come for the atmosphere. Stay because someone has stolen your wheels.
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03:00<hai>hai
03:01<millisa>greetaings
03:02<Solver>I always say, don't criticise someone unless you've walked a mile in their shoes. Because then you'll be a mile away from them, and you'll have their shoes.
03:03<hai>we need dedicated servers
03:03<millisa>Linode sells vps.
03:03<hai>k we need vps no pblm
03:04<Solver>You can get a VPS the size of a full host I believe.
03:04<hai>in vps are you provide whm panel
03:04<millisa>!cpanel
03:04<linbot>Install cPanel on CentOS: https://www.linode.com/docs/websites/cms/cpanel-on-centos Linode does not sell cPanel licenses, but it's provided free to Linode Managed customers: https://www.linode.com/managed Or try a free panel like Webmin: https://www.linode.com/docs/websites/cms/webmin-control-panel Or just use the command line: https://www.linode.com/docs/platform/linode-beginners-guide/
03:04<Solver>CLI FTW
03:05<hai>what is the difference between managed and normal
03:05<millisa>!managed
03:05<linbot>https://www.linode.com/managed
03:07<hai>same cost or what
03:07<millisa>Definitely what
03:08<hai>what is the minimum package of vps
03:08<rsdehart>!plans
03:08<linbot>https://www.linode.com/pricing#all
03:08<hai>same cost for managed vps also
03:09<rsdehart>please read the links
03:09<hai>already read
03:09<rsdehart>you didn't, or you'd know the answer to your question
03:09<hai>5$
03:09<rsdehart>Stop losing valuable time and money from downtime. Enroll in Linode Managed with no obligation or contract. Pricing is $100 per month per Linode on your account.
03:10<rsdehart>from the managed link
03:10<hai>am not able to pay 100$
03:11<hai>in 5$ what we get
03:11<rsdehart>what does the page say?
03:11<millisa>You get all these lovely features. https://www.linode.com/linodes
03:12<millisa>And free, unlimited access to https://www.linode.com/docs/getting-started/
03:15<hai>bye.
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03:15*rsdehart sighs
03:17<millisa>How much for one rib?
03:20<rsdehart>expectations are funny things
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04:11<@bmartin>hmmm
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05:25<arvind>hi
05:26<arvind>can any help me with the SLA of Linode
05:26<arvind>??
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05:28<@bmartin>Welp.
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05:52<linbot>New news from community: After installing iRedMail server on linode my domain stop working <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/17005>
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06:05<jay>Can i use ffmpeg with the standard plans
06:05<Woet>jay: do you know what Linode sells?
06:05<jay>what
06:05<Woet>jay: do you know what product Linode sells?
06:05<jay>webhosting?
06:05<Woet>jay: no, VPSes.
06:06<jay>the difference being?
06:06<Woet>jay: with webhosting you sign up, you get a panel (e.g. cPanel), you upload your website files and you're done
06:06<Woet>jay: with a VPS, you get SSH access and you have to install, configure and maintain everything yourself.
06:07<jay>cool
06:07<jay>so ican use ffmpeg?
06:07<Woet>jay: if you have to ask, it shows that you're not familiar with managing a VPS, so getting one is probably a bad idea.
06:07<Woet>jay: but yes, you can use whatever is supported by Linux.
06:07<jay>ill learn
06:07<Woet>if you say so
06:08<@bmartin>Please keep in mind that as an infrastructure provider, the configuration of your services on our platform is ultimately your responsibility, though we're happy to provide guidance whenever we can.
06:08<Woet>bmartin: guide me through life
06:09<jay>wait, are even the nanode plans VPS?
06:09<@bmartin>yes
06:09<Woet>jay: Yes.
06:09<jay>wow theyre really cheap
06:10<@bmartin>Nanodes are just a different family of Linodes. Right now there is only 1 member of the family, but there will be more
06:10<Woet>jay: $5 / 512 MB has been the standard since DigitalOcean launched, and recently both Linode and DigitalOcean upped it to 1 GB.
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06:11<Richard>Hi
06:11<Woet>Hi
06:11<@bmartin>Hi
06:11<Richard>I have just sent through some ID to support@linode.com
06:11<Richard>Hoping you can help me gain access to my linode account as I have 2FA
06:12<Richard>Swapped my phone and don't have a scratch code
06:12<@bmartin>Thank you Richard someone will take a look shortly
06:12<Richard>ok cool - what happens next?
06:12<Woet>Richard: I'm guessing you used Google Authenticator?
06:12<@bmartin>We will respond directly to your email if you need anything else
06:12<Richard>Yeah I used the google auth app
06:13<Woet>Richard: don't do that, use something like Authy.
06:13<Richard>ok - will amend that when I get back in
06:13<Woet>Richard: you can use it to swap between phones easily.
06:13<Woet>Richard: and *always* save your emergency codes in your password manager.
06:13<Woet>Richard: there are sites that will straight up not reset your 2FA, no matter what.
06:14<jay>Woet
06:14<jay>you got a referral?
06:14<Woet>wow
06:14<Woet>thats the first time someone asked me
06:14<Woet>one second
06:15<Richard>ha ha
06:15<Woet>jay: https://www.linode.com/?r=ea757ebcdca95aaf33a5774a953894afb5d6d8f1
06:16<jay>coolio
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06:17<jay>Wait, will i be protected from DMCA claims on this?
06:17<Woet>jay: no, why should you be?
06:17<jay>idk i found this on a offshore hosting list
06:17<jay>damn
06:17<jay>that kind throws a wrench in my plans
06:18<Woet>tfw the first person who asked me for a referral link is a dirty pirate
06:18<Woet>what did i do to deserve this
06:18<jay>"dirty pirate"
06:18<@bmartin>(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ THIS IS RIDICULOUS
06:19<jay>you need some sugar cubes for that high horse of yours?
06:19<@bmartin>Nothing protects from DMCA except not committing DMCA infringements
06:19<jay>offshore hosts do
06:19<jay>i just assumed this was one cus it was on the list
06:19<Woet>no, that just makes it harder for people to get justice
06:19<Woet>not impossible
06:20<jay>aight but scratch that referral thing. Enjoy your false sense of superiority
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06:20<Woet>:(
06:20<@bmartin>It's gonna be one of THOSE days
06:20<Woet>bmartin: wanna sign up for Linode? https://www.linode.com/?r=ea757ebcdca95aaf33a5774a953894afb5d6d8f1
06:20<@bmartin>sure
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06:46<rainbow>"false sense of superiority"
06:46<rainbow>ugh
06:47<rainbow>"hurr people don't have a right to make money off their work CUZ I WANT EVERYTHING FREE FOREVER"
06:48<@bmartin>Woet is superior though
06:48<@bmartin>and does have a very tall horse
06:48<rainbow>I *choose* to put my software out under BSD 2-clause licensing. I *choose* to give my music away in many cases and upload it to trackers myself because it gains me listeners. But that's my right to make that choice. And I respect it when someone goes "nah bruh this cost me years to do i want some effing compensation"
06:48<rainbow>i am not a tall horse
06:48<rainbow>:(
06:48-!-rainbow is now known as Rainbow
06:49<Rainbow>Woet, don't use authy, they keep getting popped :<
06:49<@bmartin>you are not a tall horse. This is correct.
06:50<Rainbow>just root your phone and maintain encrypted backups of your authenticator data!
06:50<Rainbow>bmartin, i am an average height horse
06:50<Rainbow>this is acceptable.
06:50<@bmartin>and that is ok
06:50<Rainbow>suboptimal but acceptable.
06:50<Rainbow>:D
06:50<@bmartin>Can't win them all
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06:50<Rainbow>OH YEAH?
06:50<Rainbow>JUST YOU WATCH ME
06:50<Rainbow>>:I
06:51<Zimsky>nah eastenders is on
06:53<Rainbow>pfft
06:53<@bmartin>Always Sunny is on
06:53<Zimsky>pretty sure only people in the west end watch eastenders to remind themselves what the east end is like
06:53<Rainbow>Lucifer is on
06:53<Rainbow>the piano
06:54<Rainbow>my god Tom Ellis can sing
06:54<Zimsky>tell him to get off
06:54<Zimsky>he can damage pianos doing that
06:54<@bmartin>Pianos are for playing not for laying
06:54<Rainbow>but he plays so beautifully ;~;
06:54<@bmartin>or something
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08:27<Woet>Rainbow: I don't know what "popped" means
08:27<Woet>Rainbow: but it seems weird you're saying Authy is insecure and then suggesting people to root their phone, which is a 100 times more insecure.
08:32<Zimsky>not if you airgap it on mercury
08:32*Woet airgaps Zimsky on pluto
08:32<Zimsky>further away from you, the better
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09:49<Interestee>Hello. Can anyone please tell me how many block storage disks (max 10TB per disk) can I attack to one VM ?
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10:01<Woet>no
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10:44*rsdehart attacks Woet's VM
10:44<rsdehart>forgot to say with a block storage disk
11:00<Zimsky>rsdehart: haven't you had enough troubles this week?
11:01<rsdehart>Zimsky: name a week that isn't true
11:01<Zimsky>tuesday
11:01<rsdehart>tuesday isn't a week
11:02*rsdehart rephrases
11:02<Zimsky>not with that attitude
11:02<rsdehart>Zimsky: name a week in which that doesn't apply
11:02<rsdehart>to which, I guess
11:02<Zimsky>you had asked me to name a week
11:02<Zimsky>I'd like an entire week with the name 'tuesday'
11:04<rsdehart>well, right. I asked you to name a week that wasn't true. One called 'tuesday' fits that description. Hence my rephrasing
11:05*rsdehart further rephrases his request into a statement: I have more than enough troubles every week.
11:08<Zimsky>alternatively, you said to name a week isn't true
11:08<Zimsky>that isn't true
11:08<Zimsky>tuesday would be a week untrue
11:08<Zimsky>completely unrelated, I'm going to go to turkmenistan now
11:08<rsdehart>I acknowledged that tuesday is an untrue week
11:08<Zimsky>not necescelery
11:10<@ctarquini>/buffer/msg chanserv deop sszyszkiewicz
11:10<@ctarquini>oops
11:10<Zimsky>nice
11:10<dwfreed>RIP
11:10<@scrane>You see nothing behind the curtain.
11:11<Zimsky>scrane: neither do you.
11:11<@scrane>There is no curtain. Only ZUUL!
11:11<Zimsky>sounds like a wonk
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13:20<sproket90>i have a linode at centos 6.9 i want to move to centos 7 can i upgrade or should i just start over?
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14:00<ssot>Hello! Can I ask a general question about custom servers?
14:01<relidy>!ask
14:01<linbot>If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read http://alexfornuto.com/how-to-ask-for-help-on-irc/
14:01<ssot>I saw that coming :D
14:01<relidy>Asking to ask is a pretty common thing.
14:02<ssot>What model SSDs would you recommend to run a high-write-load postgresql on?
14:02<ssot>I'm currently using consumer grade Samsung 960 Pros in a mirror configuration (ZFS on Debian), and they're unable to perform under sustained INSERT load.
14:03<relidy>Yeesh, that sounds like a pretty heavy workload.
14:05<ssot>I wish it was a piece of cake to setup postgres clusters. I would've never decided to not put this on linode. :/
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14:12<ssot>I'm currently looking at 4 x Samsung SM863A "Enterprise" drives (mirror + stripe). I wonder if anyone have any experience with them, and if the enterprise in them would be able to sustain write load.
14:18<Zimsky>there's some intel drives that might be better, but they're extremely expensive
14:18<Zimsky>perhaps you might want to optimise your postgres setup too
14:19<Zimsky>something something memory caching
14:25<ssot>Performance tanked after the db size outgrew the the zfs memory arc of about 224GB.
14:26<ssot>I had to switch from primarycache=metadata to primarycache=all for that fs after that
14:27<ssot>(recordsize=16K, compression=lz4, logbias=latency)
14:29<Zimsky>nice
14:30<Zimsky>what's the dataset?
14:30<ssot>user data with a bunch of btree indexes and a GIN tsvector
14:32<ssot>stored as jsonb; each UPDATE rewrites the row.. so there's some optimization to make.
14:34<ssot>It's taking 4-5 days for vacuum to finish at this stage. I've optimized pg conf to the best of my understanding (i'm not a pg expert – just a long time user). A bulk upsert takes about 1 to 30 secs randomly.
14:34<ssot>Optimizing the schema would require a bunch of new rows + indexing, which means more write load. ^^
14:42<dwfreed>IPv6 appears to have died in Dallas?
14:42<dwfreed>linbot: mtratlanta -6n speedtest.dallas.linode.com
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14:42<linbot>dwfreed: [mtr-atlanta] 4.|-- 2600:3c00:2222:11::2 0.0% 3 22.5 22.6 22.5 22.6 0.0 -- 5.|-- 2600:3c00::4b 0.0% 3 22.1 22.1 22.0 22.1 0.0 -- see https://mtr-atlanta.mn0.us/?c=02538620 for full mtr
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14:48<@mcintosh>!point dwfreed
14:48<linbot>mcintosh: Point given to dwfreed. (54) (Biggest fan: mcintosh, total: 13)
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14:55<Zimsky>ssot: sounds fun
14:56<warewolf>IPv4 blipped in dallas earlier
14:56<relidy>It appears to be more than IPv4.
14:56<dwfreed>it was both, but IPv4 came back much faster than v6
14:57<warewolf>yah
14:57<warewolf>I don't use v6, but I'm here chatting to y'all over v4 from my linode.
14:59<Peng_>D:
15:14<relidy>I'm still seeing intermittent cutout over IPv6 (via an HE tunnel) to Dallas. Am I alone on that?
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15:15<dwfreed>probably not, but my traffic is not dropping, though it goes straight to Dallas over Charter
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15:17<Rainbow>ssot, there's some ZFS shenanigans I can help you out with later
15:17<Rainbow>once you're beyond the ARC size, you need some ZFS tuning to keep everything humming along happily
15:17<ssot>oo
15:18<Rainbow>do me a favor
15:18<Rainbow>PM me
15:18<Rainbow>and stick around
15:19<Rainbow>might be a few hours before i can get to it but i'll lend ya a hand
15:19<Rainbow>ZFS happens to be one of my specialties
15:19<relidy>!point Rainbow
15:19<linbot>relidy: Point given to rainbow. (3)
15:19<ssot>Exciting.. thanks so much!
15:19<ssot>!point Rainbow
15:19<linbot>ssot: Point given to rainbow. (4)
15:19<Rainbow>though I use it on FreeBSD, not ZoL. Same difference at the end of the day tho.
15:20<Rainbow>aww, thanks y'all <3
15:20*warewolf hisses at ZFS
15:20<warewolf>I'm sure it's great.
15:20<warewolf>I've just had bad experiences with FreeBSD zelots.
15:21<Rainbow>warewolf, i'm no zealot
15:21<Rainbow>:p
15:22<Rainbow>I strongly prefer it in every way, and contribute to FreeBSD in my spare time.....but I also run alinux distro and ported software I wrote for FreeBSD to Linux as well.
15:23<warewolf>that sounds less zelot-y than my bad experience. My bad experience was "EVERYTHING MUST RUN ON FREEBSD" .. "including this app specifically designed for linux" ... and when it came time to upgrade it, the update script [again, expecting linux] destroyimated the box.
15:23<@jalter>Rainbow: orly?
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15:24<Zimsky>i wonder if there's anyone worthwhile who uses original solaris zfs
15:24<Rainbow>warewolf, see, i'd try to get it running appropriately in a portable way first
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15:24<Rainbow>and if i couldnt do that
15:24<dwfreed>I'm sure there's a lot of people that do
15:24<Rainbow>then a single purpose linux box
15:24<Rainbow>is a-ok with me
15:24<Rainbow>jalter, oh i play it up online
15:24<Rainbow>you know me
15:25<Rainbow>im a sentient ball of OpsRage
15:25<@jalter>I _do_ know you!
15:25<Rainbow>but you damn well know IRL i'm way less KJDGJGYTIHD
15:25<ssot>Don't the illumos based distros have the ZFS implementation forked from the original solaris zfs?
15:25<dwfreed>yes
15:25<Rainbow>I use the tool needed for the job at the time. :p
15:25<dwfreed>because they're using the opensolaris kernel
15:25<@jalter>You're fairly KJDGJGYTIHD IRL as well :p
15:25<Rainbow>not these days
15:25<Rainbow>heh
15:25<Zimsky>ssot: ya
15:26*jalter imagines Rainbow sitting in a rocking chair on a porch, sipping tea
15:26<dwfreed>but even illumos has brought in a lot of developments from the freebsd zfs implementation
15:26<dwfreed>(hole_birth is important for snapshotting, for example)
15:26<Rainbow>jalter, s/sipping tea/drinking coffee and smoking kretek/
15:26<Rainbow>rocking chairs kick ass
15:26<Zimsky>Rainbow seems like the type of person that always has a katana
15:27<Rainbow>nah
15:27<Zimsky>unsure where i get this image
15:27<Rainbow>I do Kung Fu.
15:27<Rainbow>Katana are pretty but not really my jam
15:28<Zimsky>a properly forged and folded katana is worth it
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15:29<@scrane>Nah, I assume Rainbow is more of a nunchuck kind of person
15:30<Zimsky>only behind the curtain
15:30<Zimsky>the one you're not behind
15:30<millisa>revolver, bowie knife, lariat, and cowboy hat. to fit in.
15:30<Zimsky>a nunchuck sounds like an alarming thing if you don't know what it is
15:30<Zimsky>>nun-chuck
15:31<@jalter>https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/001/064/302/0f4.jpg
15:31<Zimsky>it's bad enough we have dwarf throwing
15:32<@scrane>a nun-chuck is Chuck Norris dressed in a habit.
15:32<Zimsky>david bowie getting cancer is why there either is no god, or god's a massive dick
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15:39<millisa>!point Linode
15:39<linbot>millisa: Point given to linode. (4)
15:39<millisa>The port mortem is appreciated.
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15:56<warewolf>post mortem?
15:57<@mcintosh>warewolf: https://status.linode.com/incidents/2hd9pdyl81p5
15:58<Peng_>> At this time, the affected UPS has been repaired and is operating normally. We have confirmation that there were subsequent power loss events early last week and the repaired UPS operated normally.
15:58<warewolf>oh
15:58<Peng_>That makes me sweat and I don't even use Fremont :P
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15:58<warewolf>I looked at status.linode and saw "No incidents today" I thought we were talking about the little blip earlier
16:00*DanielNM pets his vps in fmt
16:08<Rainbow>scrane, again, nah :p
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16:24<SleePy>At least they are moving it. I was wondering why they talk about a single UPS failing systems that should have a A and B side for power
16:24<linbot>New news from community: Cpanel / Cyberduck Authentication Errors <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/17006>
16:25<Peng_>Which data centers do have fully redundant power...?
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16:42<devilspgd>There's redundant and then there's redundant.
16:43<Eugene>Every day I'm Linodin'
16:45<Zimsky>don't forget redundant
16:45<Peng_>devilspgd: Yeah. Which ones are redundant and which ones are redundant? :D
16:46<devilspgd>Specs, design and configuration never answer that question. Only experience.
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18:35<linbot>New news from community: Unknown storage alerts pagerduty / Icinga2 <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/17007>
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23:57<krsna>hello sir
23:58<rsdehart>hi krsna, something we can help you with?
23:58<krsna>yes i need help for restore my file
23:59<krsna>i accident delete my file
23:59<millisa>what do you use for backups?
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