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#linode IRC Logs for 2018-08-16

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02:45<linbot>New news from community: For some reason rubygems.org is not available when I try bundle install or ping rubygems.org from my new ubuntu/debian linode - what did I do wrong? <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/17121>
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03:39<Razvan>How does Linode compare to other hosts on Speed and time to first byte?
03:39<Razvan>Any public data tests?
03:49<Woet>Razvan: time to first byte depends on the location, and even more, your webserver and app.
03:53<grawity>Razvan: most importantly, Linode is not a webhost – they manage hardware, network, but *you* manage your own webserver and apps
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06:10<tafa2>What is the snapshot equivalent in Linode?
06:11<tafa2>I'm about to make some modifications to a VM and wanted to save it's state before I do so
06:12<grawity>the closest thing is to 'Clone' a linode into a new one
06:12<grawity>it'll also cost as much
06:14<tafa2>That's annoying...
06:15<tafa2>Can't I just save it's current state without cloning it?
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06:22<grawity>you can manually create a file-level backup, if you have enabled that feature
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09:51<deep>hell
09:51<deep>hello
09:52<ericoc>hi
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09:53<deep>at this page https://www.linode.com/pricing there are many server with different prices but are these shared, vps, cloud of dedicated server
09:55<smallclone>vps
09:56<deep>do you offer clode or dedicated
09:56<deep>cloud
09:56<smallclone>"cloud" doesn't mean anything by itself
09:56<smallclone>they do not offer dedicated
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09:59<ericoc>"they're shared vps cloudy partially-dedicated hosted node servers"
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10:04<Woet>i love cloudy
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10:21<ericoc>only the cloudiest at linode
10:25<gparent>can I spin up a stratocumulus instance
10:39<ericoc>cumulonimbus all the way
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10:43<csnxs>i have plenty of cloud above me, i just need to get a really long ladder
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10:54<Entwine>hi there
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10:57<ericoc>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_elevator next linode product?
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11:05<Entwine>H there
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11:08<pdpie>Hi all, I have a quick question about hourly billing
11:08<pdpie>is it possible to have a monthly cap or limit, so that instead of charging an extra $0.02 / gb, my website just goes down instead?
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11:09<myq>buenos dias
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11:10<myq>i have this error
11:10<myq>Error establishing a database connection
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11:14<Woet>myq: and whast is your question?
11:14<Woet>what *
11:15<Woet>pdpie: you can install software that does that, or at least warns you
11:16<pdpie>Woet: any recommendations?
11:19<myq>when i go to my page www.emprendecondatos.gov.co the error is Error establishing a database connection
11:20<Woet>myq: and?
11:20<Woet>pdpie: theres so many, any will do
11:20<Woet>myq: SSH seems to be working fine.
11:23<@scrane>myq That error typically indicates an error on one of the services in the Linode.
11:24<@scrane>Your best bet is probably to log into the Linode and check the Apache error logs to see if there is anythign more specific there in terms of error outputs.
11:25<@scrane>probably running tail -n 30 /var/log/apache/error.log or tail -n 30 /var/log/apache2/error.log will give you the most useful outputs.
11:28<myq>ok thanks
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12:31<Eugene>Argh. I have had the worst time getting motivated to fiddle with computers lately.
12:31<Eugene>These things suck.
12:31<synfinatic>consider it job security
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13:35<linbot>New news from kernels: Latest 64 bit (4.17.15-x86_64-linode115) <https://www.linode.com/kernels/?ver=1534440259#138> || Latest 32 bit (4.17.15-x86-linode134) <https://www.linode.com/kernels/?ver=1534440123#137> || 4.17.15-x86-linode134 <https://www.linode.com/kernels/?ver=1534439636#318> || 4.17.15-x86_64-linode115 <https://www.linode.com/kernels/?ver=1534439608#317>
13:47<linbot>New news from community: How is Linode handling L1TF/Foreshadow? <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/17122>
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15:25<TTUU>Hello, I need in this, how can I open the port 21? I need to use that one since the 3rd party app only use this port
15:26<TTUU>I have used uwf and iptables, but it does not work
15:26<TTUU>ufw*
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15:26<gparent>Keep in mind that ufw is just a wrapper over iptables.
15:26<TTUU>I turn off ufw
15:27<gparent>You'll want to show us your ruleset using the command "iptables-save -c", and put the complete output of that in a pastebin.
15:27<gparent>!paste
15:27<linbot>Please paste longer snippets over at https://bpaste.net/ and not in the channel
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15:31<TTUU>https://bpaste.net/show/a1a2c239ebb0
15:34<TTUU>this is the masage that Fzille shows"Status: Connecting to 198.xxx.xxx.180:21... Status: Connection established, waiting for welcome message... Error: Could not connect to server"
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15:41<gparent>try modprobe nf_conntrack_ftp
15:41<gparent>shouldn't give any output. then retry your FTP connection.
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15:45<TTUU>give me this:" [ 1936.561764] nf_conntrack: default automatic helper assignm."
15:47<smallclone>i mean...did you actually configure the ftp server? can you confirm locally that it's listening on port 21?
15:49<TTUU>how can I check that? maybe thats the issue
15:50<smallclone>ss -lpnt | grep 21
15:50<smallclone>is one way
15:53<TTUU>no
15:53<TTUU>https://bpaste.net/show/4c3fbe227353
15:54<smallclone>well that's port 22
15:54<smallclone>anyway, i feel like you'd remember setting up an ftp server
15:54<smallclone>so...what application are you using that requires you to use ftp as opposed to sftp
15:54<smallclone>because you really shouldn't use ftp
15:55<TTUU>Yeah I am using Tems, that use Phone to downloading data
15:55<TTUU>so I just using this server for FTP no more than that
15:55<TTUU>how can I setup one?
15:56<smallclone>i guess look up a guide on it for your distro
15:58<smallclone>but it doesn't really sound like you need ftp if you're connecting to it from filezilla..
15:58<smallclone>just use your ssh credentials with sftp
15:58<smallclone>easier and also way more secure
16:00<gparent>smallclone is right, I just didn't have the patience to go there.
16:01<gparent>It also doesn't require a kernel module to do conntracking tracking correctly.
16:01<gparent>connection*
16:02<@sjacobs>i'm stumped why a service perforiming network testing, only supports ftp.
16:02<@sjacobs>https://www.infovista.com/tems/ if this is what we are talking about.
16:03<gparent>maybe they think the F stands for fast
16:03<TTUU>ok I am using Fzile to tester the port, I'd like to use sftp but the Tems program does not support it, so we have to use ftp.
16:03<TTUU>yes that's the one
16:04<@sjacobs>so you need a server to run ftp, and the phone uploads the data to that configured server?
16:04<@sjacobs>the answer is still look up a guide on how to install and secure an FTP server on your distirbution. just curious.
16:06<TTUU>Ues
16:06<TTUU>yes*
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16:07<smallclone>i don't even really see where that terrible website mentions technical requirements
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16:35<csnxs>how do i li my node
16:38<linbot>New news from blog: Intel’s L1TF CPU Vulnerabilities & Linode <https://blog.linode.com/2018/08/16/intels-l1tf-cpu-vulnerabilities-linode/>
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18:28<relidy>So live guest migrations are possible now? Is that something new? (source: caker's comment on the latest blog post)
18:35<Peng>:O
18:42<csnxs>neat
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19:48<linbot>New news from community: aws s3 like alternative for linode customers? <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/17123>
19:48<Peng>Spaces from DigiCOUGHCOUGH
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19:49<Peng>Interesting reply though :O
19:57<MrPPS>Yeah :)
19:57<csnxs>ooh
20:02<MrPPS>it's easy; just spin up a linode, add minio + block storage, done
20:02<MrPPS>:P
20:02<MrPPS>hahah
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20:48<trippeh>with all the bad bugs these days they prob had to add some internal live migration
20:52<trippeh>or get stabbed by the support staff
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21:03<csnxs>!lick mcintosh
21:03<linbot>csnxs: Point given to mcintosh. (59) (Biggest fan: csnxs, total: 18)
21:03<csnxs>autocorrect really didn't want me to lick him
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21:43<richard>hello?
21:44<richard>Someone maliciously attacked our website, the IP used is your server.
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21:59<rsdehart>there should be some sort of dedicated email address for abuse complaints
21:59<rsdehart>they could mandate it in the rfc, even, to ensure that it exists
22:00<rsdehart>too bad that will never happen
22:02<ericoc>if only
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22:05<rsdehart>until then, the only option for abuse complaints will be a provider's community chat
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