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---Logopened Fri Aug 31 00:00:29 2018
00:02<Peng>Same as anything else. Local IPv6 is free. IPv4 over public IPs counts. IPv4 over private IPs is free. The mirrors have IPv6 and public IPv4 IPs. If you're using the right mirrors and have IPv6 on, it's free.
00:02<phlux>Right on
00:02<Peng>Keep in mind that inbound traffic is always free, so you'd only pay for a few hundred byts of HTTP *request*, not the responses, anyway.
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00:33<phlux>Ah, I see
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06:16<linbot>New news from community: How to setup all the security needs for StackScript WordPress <>
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10:24<Alaa>Please i want to know, if i buy a VPS plan A, could i upgrade it after as needed ??
10:25<LouWestin>You can also downgrade as needed, though you might have issues with diskspace depending on how much you have stored.
10:25<Alaa>I also need to make a Docker image for my installation in order to use it for my future installation, could I have that support ??
10:27<csnxs>if it runs on linux it runs on linode
10:27<LouWestin>I'm not familiar with docker, but you can check the guides. You do have root access to the server.
10:28<Alaa>Also i want my backups space to be software and hardware isolated for more security of my customers data security, is that possible with your plans ??
10:28<LouWestin>You'd need a dedicated plan for that.
10:29<LouWestin>Linode is only cloud based.
10:30<Alaa>Thanks, what i mean is if i have a VPS on Linode stored on Datacenter A, could i have backup storage in Datacenter B ??
10:31<LouWestin>I know for the backups, they're assigned...somewhere. You could have two linodes in different locations though.
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10:44<Woet>> wants security of customers data
10:44<Woet>> doesnt want off-site backups
10:45<Woet>(my definition of off site being "not with the same provider")
10:48<phlux>I've never had a problem with a Linode backup, personally
10:48<phlux>Not saying it couldn't happen, but I don't particularly care where they're stored - they've always been available when I've needed them in the past.
10:50<smallclone>they're in the same datacenter
10:50<relidy>I consider Linode backups to be one layer. They're the backups I'm mostly likely to use if things go sideways with a VM, but I do maintain additional backups that aren't stored with Linode.
10:57<LouWestin>Well he could always handle the backups by another means too.
10:57<LouWestin>Sounded like he really needs a dedicated solution.
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11:04<Woet>phlux: Linode account hacked -> backups gone
11:04<Woet>phlux: Linode bankrupt -> backups gone
11:04<Woet>if you care about your backups, don't have them with the same provider
11:05<Woet>that doesn't mean you need to spend hours restoring backups
11:05<phlux>I mean I really doubt your second point would happen without some sort of warning
11:05<Woet>sure, have some convenience backups on the same Linode or snapshots
11:05<phlux>but yeah, point 1 is pretty valid.
11:05<Woet>but they shouldn't be your only backups
11:05<phlux>I mean I have offsite backups, but I've just never had to rely on them
11:05<phlux>idk if that makes sense or not
11:05<Woet>as long as you test them every now and then
11:06<phlux>Good point, actually
11:06<gparent>the point of backing up stuff is for when it happens without warning, too.
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16:26<Cypher100>or if you screw something up beyond repair
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17:18<linbot>New news from community: website upload <>
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18:17<phlux>Something just went rogue and took up my entire HDD on my Linode...
18:18<millisa>ncdu as root from /
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18:19<phlux>I found it
18:19<phlux>thanks for the ncdu idea
18:19<millisa>porn, right?
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18:19<phlux>Somehow an eggdrop trivia bot created some file called 'nohup.out' and it was nearly 70G
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18:20<millisa>uuencoded porn. *nods*
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18:21<phlux>wtf this is weird
18:21<phlux>df -H is reporting that my HD is now only 79GB and it has 0 space available
18:21<phlux>Whereas sudo ncdu / reports I am only using 20GB
18:22<arby>Does lish support ssh-ed25519 host key algo for access? iiuc ... no. only ssh-rsa/ssh-dsa?
18:22<millisa>file handle still open?
18:23<phlux>OK, killing the trivia bot cleared it up.
18:23<phlux>Note to self: do not run the eggdrop trivia bot
18:24<phlux>I wonder how that happened..
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21:29<phlux>Do any of you use backupsy or another offsite backup service?
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23:27<LouWestin>I use BackBlaze for offsite backups, but that's for my home computers
23:28<millisa>I'm a fan of their quarterly drive statistic posts ( last one - )
23:28<Woet>blaze it
23:28<LouWestin>I also use sync for smaller backups like documents and stuff that I can sync between my computer and phone.
23:30<LouWestin>Yeah the drive statistics are great... I can't remember where I started seeing those...
23:32<LouWestin>Lastly I use Syncback Lite for local backups.
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23:40<duckx0r>I just updated my 18.04 server (VPS with Linode) and I received several warning messages to do with cryptsetup and grub: As far as I can tell, none of the partitions are encrypted. Here is the output of blkid: and here is my /etc/fstab: One weird thing I notice is that my fstab references devices (/dev/sda) instead of partitions (/dev/sda
23:40<duckx0r>Also, here is the output of `parted -l`. I don't see any partitions listed under /dev/sda:
23:41<duckx0r>Is this normal. Should I be worried about anything here?
23:42<millisa>Do you mean - is using /dev/sda without a partition number normal on a linode ? or something else
23:42<millisa>(it's common)
23:44<duckx0r>millisa: Yes, that's what I mean. It's using /dev/sda as the root device without a partition number.
23:45<duckx0r>millisa: and why no partitions are listed under /dev/sda
23:46<duckx0r>note, this server was installed about 4-5 months ago and I haven't touched the partition table. Everything pre-installed uses default settings.
23:47<millisa>Well, by default it won't partition the disk, it just uses the whole block device. You can change the block devices around by changing the configuration profile (
23:47<millisa>(though that image there appears to be old and still shows the /dev/xvd? device names)
23:49<linbot>New news from community: How do I trace down postfix problem <>
23:51<duckx0r>millisa: No, it doesn't have any /dev/xvd* devices
23:52<millisa>It's just an outdated image. They should be /dev/sd? on any recent linode.
23:53<millisa>you can slice your disk allocation up into multiple block devices if you want to break up your disk allocation
23:53<duckx0r>millisa: But they are /dev/sda and /dev/sdb
23:53<millisa>it's simpler?
23:53<duckx0r>I'm not sure what you're asking
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23:55<millisa>I'm not sure what you are asking. Why do you think there should be partitions?
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