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| 06:18 | <SteveA> | I'm not a customer (yet). Would I be possible for me to install Mailman (list manager) on a host if ordered one? |
| 06:23 | <LouWestin> | You should as long as it runs Linux. They don’t really have any restrictions on what you run. |
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| 08:08 | <Willi> | Hello |
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| 08:15 | <DrJ> | goodbye |
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| 10:10 | <Antony> | Is there a problem with the Ubuntu images? |
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| 10:13 | <Peng> | ... |
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| 10:15 | <Rajat> | Hi |
| 10:15 | <DrJ> | Hello |
| 10:15 | <Rajat> | is there any issue in Linode network |
| 10:15 | <Rajat> | i am getting sloow network issue on my server |
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| 10:17 | <Rajat> | ? |
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| 10:49 | <linbot> | New news from status: Block Storage Switch Maintenance <https://status.linode.com/incidents/psr3x21y0zlf> |
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| 13:06 | <excid3> | When you create a new Linode via the API with the private_ip: true option, does the private IP interface not get automatically configured? Do I have to configure that manually? |
| 13:10 | <ericoc> | correct |
| 13:11 | <@scrane> | If you have Network Helper enabled by default on your account, the private IP interface should be automatically configured. |
| 13:11 | <@scrane> | If not,m you will need to manually configure it |
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| 13:13 | <excid3> | @scrane I do have Network Helper enabled just confirmed that, but I don't see the interface in ifconfig on the instance. It's also using Ubuntu LTS with auto-configure networking on. |
| 13:13 | <grawity> | excid3: do you see the address in `ip addr`? |
| 13:14 | <@scrane> | Ubuntu 18.04 LTS? |
| 13:14 | <grawity> | excid3: Linux generally supports multiple IP addresses on the same interface, without the use of aliases... but nobody told ifconfig about that. |
| 13:15 | <grawity> | if the same eth0 has multiple IPv4 addresses, ifconfig just won't show them |
| 13:15 | <excid3> | I do see it in ip addr, didn't realize ifconfig wouldn't show it |
| 13:15 | <excid3> | good to know |
| 13:17 | <@scrane> | I'm a huge fan of using `ip a` and `ip r` to see what IP addresses are configured. |
| 13:18 | <excid3> | thanks guys! |
| 13:18 | <grawity> | this is the main reason why `ip addr` and `ip route` (iproute2) are recommended over `ifconfig` and `route` (net-tools): the former get updates almost as soon as the kernel itself does, while the latter are stuck in the past and can omit lots of information |
| 13:19 | <grawity> | well, just as importantly, `ip addr` also has colours |
| 13:19 | <@scrane> | Just tested via API, and yeah network helper does automatically configure private IPs for 18.04 so you should be good. Glad we could help! |
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| 17:45 | <millisa> | Qualys started marking sites as untrusted today that have the last set of those symantec affiliated certs. |
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| 18:13 | <Peng> | :D |
| 18:13 | <Peng> | I wish they'd done it sooner |
| 18:19 | <millisa> | there's likely one over in the 'recent worst' column with a 'T' that shows what it looks like now: https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/ |
| 18:20 | <LouWestin> | millisa: That site’s test taught me how better setup ssl. :-) |
| 18:24 | <dwfreed> | https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=printsuppliesprov2.glb.itcs.hp.com RIP HP |
| 18:25 | <millisa> | I know of at least one banking login/management site that has it... |
| 18:26 | <Peng> | >_< |
| 18:26 | <millisa> | It's not even one that is confusing either. It is an actual symantec cert, not one of those rebranded ones. |
| 18:27 | <Peng> | People should have stopped using Symantec certs weeks ago |
| 18:27 | <Peng> | months ago? |
| 18:27 | <millisa> | years? |
| 18:27 | <Peng> | well yeah :D |
| 18:28 | <millisa> | which . . I didn't. But the earlier deadline was the one that finally got me off my lazy but to actually learn how to do LE certs... |
| 18:28 | <LouWestin> | Wasn’t it Symantec that was voiding ssls certs or something? I can’t remember off the top of my head now. |
| 18:28 | <millisa> | s/but/butt |
| 18:29 | <Peng> | It's just unfortunate that people are screwing Chrome canary and Firefox nightly users |
| 18:33 | <hawk> | That kind of makes it sound like the expectation is that they are aware but plan to make the change last minute.... I would rather expect that most cases are people who are living under a rock in blissful ignorance. |
| 18:35 | <Peng> | ;_; |
| 18:35 | <Peng> | Less than 6 weeks until we find out which it was! |
| 18:36 | <hawk> | Well, maybe the Chrome Canary users save them by complaining... |
| 18:38 | <hawk> | I don't know. I just feel like if you are aware, why didn't you reissue your certs like six months ago? |
| 18:43 | <Peng> | Dunno. But there's not that much reason to do it faster than necessary. |
| 18:43 | <Peng> | Necessary was last month though |
| 18:48 | <hawk> | Well, sure. But one advantage is at least that you don't start the jumping through hoops process last minute. |
| 18:49 | <hawk> | My impression is that Digicert did not trust any validation work done by Symantec/subbrands. |
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| 21:19 | <tharkun> | Good day. I set up an A record on the dns web page and the record does not appear at all. Any ops around? |
| 21:19 | <millisa> | how long ago? |
| 21:19 | <tharkun> | Disregard it took like 2 hours to unscrew it self but it seems ok. |
| 21:19 | <millisa> | typically it's a 15 minute publish period |
| 21:20 | <dwfreed> | keep in mind that resolvers are allowed to cache negative results |
| 21:20 | <dwfreed> | dig +trace is your friend |
| 21:21 | <Peng> | And auths can cache stuff! |
| 21:21 | <tharkun> | dwfreed: Yes, I know about NXDOMAIN and its caching period but this was far too large. As if the record was not updated at all for like 1:30 |
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| 21:21 | <dwfreed> | nxdomain caching is controlled by the last field in the soa |
| 21:21 | <tharkun> | dwfreed: Yeap me knows about it and likes it very much ideed sir :) |
| 21:22 | <dwfreed> | Linode's default value is 1 day |
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| 21:22 | <dwfreed> | (the default ttl setting also controls the nxdomain caching value) |
| 21:22 | <tharkun> | dwfreed: Hard to get that one but I am almost certain that there were no isues there. Then again no certainty about it so no claims to it. |
| 21:24 | <tharkun> | dwfreed: Forget I asked you. Second time you answer something to me on speculation from your part. Have a nice day. Take care. |
| 21:25 | <tharkun> | BTW Thanks everyone. Got to go. |
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| 21:25 | <dwfreed> | wut |
| 21:25 | <dwfreed> | all we can do is speculate when you give us no useful info |
| 21:25 | <dwfreed> | (I know he quit) |
| 21:26 | <ericoc> | wow |
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| 21:29 | <millisa> | hm hm hm http://irclogs.thegrebs.com/linode/2017/11/24#17:07 |
| 21:34 | <millisa> | they like having folks guess stuff |
| 21:34 | <LouWestin> | Wow that escalated quick... |
| 21:35 | <dwfreed> | millisa: yeah, it's lots of fun |
| 21:36 | <dwfreed> | I'm tempted to see if I can't set a herald for him |
| 21:38 | <dwfreed> | (a herald will cause linbot to say something when he joins; the idea is to have linbot tell him he has to give us meaningful specific information if he wants help) |
| 21:39 | <LouWestin> | Maybe that should be standard or part of the announcement? |
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| 21:41 | <dwfreed> | Normally it isn't an issue |
| 21:42 | <dwfreed> | he's a special case |
| 21:42 | <LouWestin> | K |
| 21:45 | <Peng> | dwfreed: Many resolvers limit negative caching to a couple hours though |
| 21:45 | <dwfreed> | true |
| 21:45 | <dwfreed> | 8.8.8.8 caps at 6 hours, doesn't it? |
| 21:45 | <Peng> | I think it caps to half an hour |
| 21:46 | <Peng> | dig day.negative.ttl.mattnordhoff.xyz @8.8.8.8 |
| 21:46 | <Peng> | The largest negative TTL it will return is 1799. I don't know if it caches longer internaly. |
| 21:47 | <dwfreed> | right, it caches for 21600 on positive results, and 1800 on negative |
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| 21:47 | <Peng> | day.ttl.mattnordhoff.xyz. 21599 IN A 45.79.1.70 |
| 21:47 | <Peng> | Huh. |
| 21:47 | <dwfreed> | or 6 hours for positive, and 30 minutes for negative |
| 21:47 | <Peng> | Not very long |
| 21:48 | <dwfreed> | they figure somebody else will look it up soon anyway |
| 21:48 | <dwfreed> | also they don't want memory exhaustion issues |
| 21:48 | <dwfreed> | stuff the cache with records that effectively never expire |
| 21:49 | <Peng> | Maybe they should add more memory, or stop running half a dozen separate segmented caches. ;-P |
| 21:49 | <Peng> | in each PoP |
| 21:49 | <dwfreed> | cache cohesion would be interesting |
| 21:50 | <Peng> | 1.1.1.1 does it, somehow |
| 21:51 | <dwfreed> | their resolver is probably written in go |
| 21:52 | <dwfreed> | 8.8.8.8 is probably just a patched BIND |
| 21:52 | <dwfreed> | and are you sure you aren't just hitting the same resolver every time with 1.1.1.1? |
| 21:53 | <Peng> | No. |
| 21:53 | <Peng> | If I am, they're very good at it. |
| 21:53 | <dwfreed> | cloudflare has an... interesting... routing configuration |
| 21:53 | <Peng> | And I know they've flirted with ways to make multiple resolvers share caches. |
| 21:54 | <dwfreed> | I mean, one could do cache tiering, I guess |
| 21:58 | <Peng> | Oh gosh I'm in that IRC log |
| 21:59 | <dwfreed> | of course you are |
| 21:59 | <dwfreed> | you're in every IRC log |
| 21:59 | <Peng> | D: |
| 22:01 | <millisa> | (it was black friday) |
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