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| 00:34 | <hays> | im doing something that is definitely less sensible that whatever you were suggesting :) |
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| 00:43 | <Shashidhar> | HI |
| 00:43 | <millisa> | Greetings |
| 00:43 | <Shashidhar> | Hi Mellisa How ru |
| 00:44 | <retro|blah> | What is a ru? |
| 00:44 | <Shashidhar> | It is r as an ARE, u as an YOU |
| 00:44 | <dcraig> | shouldn't it be "ay" then? |
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| 01:26 | <hays> | wow this is horrible |
| 01:26 | <hays> | i probably should not have done this :) |
| 01:26 | <LouWestin> | Do you have a reliable backup at least? |
| 01:26 | <hays> | you know things are going bad when you have to make a symlink to /bin/bash to get your package manager to work |
| 01:27 | <hays> | yeah. we'll see |
| 01:27 | <LouWestin> | No, no no, there's no we'll see if the back up works. ;-) lol |
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| 01:29 | <hays> | well i think ive maybe got through the bad part |
| 01:30 | <LouWestin> | Ok |
| 01:30 | <hays> | i think im left with a bunch of i386 packages with no installation candidate.. or maybe ihave duplicates |
| 01:31 | <LouWestin> | i386!? |
| 01:32 | <hays> | yeah |
| 01:32 | <hays> | this server im thinking it might be a bit more performant |
| 01:32 | <LouWestin> | Wow, that reminds me of the good old days when we bought our first computer, a 486 |
| 01:33 | <LouWestin> | Ah, DOS 6.2 is what influenced me into Linux |
| 01:34 | <dwfreed> | please tell me you didn't try to manually convert to amd64 by installing all the amd64 packages |
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| 02:04 | <hays> | dwfreed: i did |
| 02:05 | <hays> | i think i got it |
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| 02:20 | <rsdehart> | millisa: how .ru? |
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| 02:24 | <Shentino_> | DOS 6.22 is best dos |
| 02:26 | <LouWestin> | Shentino_: YES! When we went to Windows 95, I was like where’s the command line!? |
| 02:27 | <hays> | slackware was the best dos |
| 02:28 | <hays> | alias dir=ls -l |
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| 02:41 | <Woet> | what just happened |
| 02:42 | <Woet> | dwfreed: please elaborate |
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| 05:41 | <coinflow> | Hi there, are you guys available? |
| 05:41 | <coinflow> | Ive got an urgent matter with my root account |
| 05:42 | <csnxs> | !ask |
| 05:42 | <linbot> | If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read http://alexfornuto.com/how-to-ask-for-help-on-irc/ |
| 05:46 | <Woet> | coinflow: apparently it's not urgent enough to actually ask your question for the past 5 minutes |
| 05:46 | <coinflow> | sorry |
| 05:46 | <coinflow> | the link above doesnt work so im just trying to find out how to use this |
| 05:47 | <Woet> | just ask your question |
| 05:47 | <Woet> | and then wait |
| 05:47 | <Woet> | :) |
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| 05:47 | <Woet> | bye |
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| 05:49 | <coinflow> | Sory about that...I was using my account through ssh tunnel when it started being very slow (to type anything). I had just migrated to a stronger server so no processes were running outside of the main centos ones. I logged out of ssh and logged back in and it said "Login incorrect". I rebooted and changed the root password but I still get the same issue. |
| 05:50 | <coinflow> | I can log in as my other account which I do not use, does anyone know what could be wrong? |
| 05:52 | <Woet> | coinflow: did you try using LISH? |
| 05:54 | <coinflow> | Yes I did, it seems to have the same issue, I can login to a non super user account, which doesnt help, I am stupid enough to install all my files in the root folder like they told me not to, I am sorry... |
| 05:55 | <Woet> | coinflow: so you already reset the password through the panel? and it won't work on LISH? |
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| 05:59 | <coinflow> | that is correct |
| 05:59 | <coinflow> | longview has stopped working as well if that helps? |
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| 11:23 | <uembank_> | hi |
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| 14:38 | <Xaif> | Hello |
| 14:38 | <millisa> | Hi |
| 14:38 | <Xaif> | I love your new cloud.linode.com |
| 14:39 | <millisa> | I think they have a feedback link somewhere if you want to tell them |
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| 14:42 | <@scrane> | I appreciate Xaif. |
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| 15:01 | <newlinodeuser> | Hi there. |
| 15:01 | <millisa> | Greetings |
| 15:02 | <newlinodeuser> | Can I upgrade Linode plans at anytime without much hassle? |
| 15:02 | <millisa> | Yep |
| 15:02 | <millisa> | https://www.linode.com/docs/platform/disk-images/resizing-a-linode/ |
| 15:03 | <newlinodeuser> | It doesn't require a complete migration? |
| 15:03 | <newlinodeuser> | Awesome. Thanks. |
| 15:03 | <millisa> | It does take a little time to move the disk |
| 15:03 | <millisa> | Their estimate on that page is pretty conservative though |
| 15:03 | <LouWestin> | newlinodeuser: You can also switch data centers too if need be. |
| 15:04 | <newlinodeuser> | So if I needed to do this...it would move the files, databases, everything? The .com domains wouldn't need any re-configuring? |
| 15:05 | <LouWestin> | If you’re upgrading/downgrading. No |
| 15:05 | <newlinodeuser> | Also. I am use to using cPanel. Is there a Control Panel that comes installed that has similar function to cPanel? |
| 15:05 | <Peng> | !cpanel |
| 15:05 | <linbot> | Install cPanel on CentOS: https://www.linode.com/docs/websites/cms/cpanel-on-centos Linode does not sell cPanel licenses, but it's provided free to Linode Managed customers: https://www.linode.com/managed Or try a free panel like Webmin: https://www.linode.com/docs/websites/cms/webmin-control-panel Or just use the command line: https://www.linode.com/docs/platform/linode-beginners-guide/ |
| 15:05 | <Peng> | Not preinstalled. |
| 15:07 | <LouWestin> | Peng: If you transfer your server to another data center, does your up address change? |
| 15:08 | <LouWestin> | *IP |
| 15:08 | <millisa> | right now it does |
| 15:18 | <LouWestin> | K |
| 15:20 | <newlinodeuser> | I am trying out Linode. Is there a major difference between Nanode Instance versus Standard Instance? Basically the $5 vs $10 /m plan. |
| 15:20 | <Peng> | No |
| 15:20 | <millisa> | Other than the resources involved, not particularly |
| 15:20 | <millisa> | the nanode's backup service costs a higher percent than the others... |
| 15:38 | <linbot> | New news from community: use xshell on windows to create connection between VPS and SSH <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/17172> |
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| 15:42 | <BDIkaros> | !wx kdfw |
| 15:42 | <linbot> | BDIkaros: [metar] OBS at KDFW: 73.4F/23C, visibility 10 miles, wind 11.51 mph, chill 74.90F (altimeter: 29.93) [KDFW 091853Z 35010KT 10SM BKN023 OVC026 23/17 A2993 RMK AO2 SLP126 T02330172] |
| 15:42 | <csnxs> | !wx egnx |
| 15:42 | <linbot> | csnxs: [metar] OBS at EGNX: 59.0F/15C, visibility 9999 miles, wind 14.96 mph, chill 56.18F (altimeter: ) [EGNX 091920Z 26013KT 9999 SCT040 15/09 Q1017] |
| 15:42 | <BDIkaros> | It feels good out here. |
| 15:43 | <csnxs> | it feels windier than that |
| 15:43 | <BDIkaros> | Wind's dynamic, reporting stations only capture a static measurement every period. |
| 15:50 | <newlinodeuser> | I am following the Getting Started article. How do I open the "hosts" file in a text editor? How do I access it? |
| 15:50 | <millisa> | There are lots of text editors. This is one of them - https://www.linode.com/docs/tools-reference/tools/use-nano-text-editor-commands/ |
| 15:51 | <millisa> | That same tools section has links to others like vim and emacs |
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| 15:54 | <newlinodeuser> | I installed CentOS WebPanel Admin GUI but it is not loading. |
| 15:54 | <newlinodeuser> | But I forgot to update the host file so that is probably my issue. |
| 15:54 | <millisa> | That'd be unusual to be the cause |
| 15:55 | <newlinodeuser> | Scratch that. It would be helpful if I added the :2030 at the end of the IP address :-) |
| 15:56 | <hays> | any way to fix this warning: |
| 15:56 | <hays> | grub-install: warning: File system `ext2' doesn't support embedding. |
| 15:56 | <hays> | grub-install: warning: Embedding is not possible. GRUB can only be installed in this setup by using blocklists. However, blocklists are UNRELIABLE and their use is discouraged.. |
| 16:05 | <newlinodeuser> | Do I need to enable firewall? |
| 16:06 | <@scrane> | newlinodeuser You don't HAVE to but I highly recommend it. |
| 16:06 | <@scrane> | https://www.linode.com/docs/security/securing-your-server |
| 16:06 | <@scrane> | https://www.linode.com/docs/security/linux-security-basics |
| 16:06 | <@scrane> | https://www.linode.com/docs/security/firewalls/control-network-traffic-with-iptables |
| 16:06 | <@scrane> | https://www.linode.com/docs/security/using-fail2ban-for-security |
| 16:06 | <newlinodeuser> | Thank you. |
| 16:06 | <@scrane> | ^ Those docs are ones I highly recommend following |
| 16:07 | <@scrane> | hays Are you using an ext2 filesystem? |
| 16:08 | <hays> | scrane: it looks to be ext3 |
| 16:08 | <hays> | based on fstab |
| 16:08 | <@scrane> | Then you're most likely fine |
| 16:08 | <newlinodeuser> | So I have CentOS WebPanel Admin GUI up and running. I am getting myself familiar with it right now. To get a domain pointed here, do I update the DNS to ns1.centos-webpanel.com? |
| 16:08 | <hays> | https://bpaste.net/show/dfb16dfdbc80 |
| 16:09 | <hays> | its also interesting it says installing for the i386-pc platform |
| 16:14 | <LouWestin> | For CentOS didn’t they move away from ip tables? |
| 16:16 | <hays> | i thought the new thing was gonna be BPF |
| 16:17 | <LouWestin> | Cent is using firewallLD |
| 16:20 | <hays> | https://developers.redhat.com/blog/2018/08/10/firewalld-the-future-is-nftables/ |
| 16:20 | <hays> | maybe rhel8 |
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| 16:49 | <hays> | wow the more i read about this the more i have no idea whether iptables or nftables syntax is going to be around for the future |
| 16:51 | <LouWestin> | That’s one reason why I stuck to Debian for simplicity |
| 16:53 | <hays> | there seems to be a big bias in some circles to RH, as if it is the only 'serious' distro |
| 16:54 | <hays> | centos is for those people :) |
| 16:54 | <hays> | my linode is also debian/stable |
| 16:54 | <LouWestin> | I would use it if I was in an enterprise place that used it. |
| 16:55 | <hays> | yeah i have used it it a bit. it was fine. I found it a bit off-putting what they do with the kernel |
| 16:56 | <hays> | the latest RHEL7.5 kernel is 3.10.0-862 |
| 16:57 | <LouWestin> | For me, it was at the time that Linode mainly had only Ubuntu/Debian guides. I don’t like Ubuntu so I stuck to Debian. |
| 16:58 | <hays> | Ubuntu as a server is growing on me |
| 16:58 | <hays> | seems like theres a tendency to find ubuntu packages/ppas for things and not debian |
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| 17:02 | <LouWestin> | I run about as straight Debian as I can, minus the kernel. lol |
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| 18:14 | <phlux> | I run Debian stable on my servers, Fedora for most of my local needs. |
| 18:18 | <phlux> | I'm a FreeBSD native. Still miss it sometimes. |
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| 19:29 | <Cloudminer420> | Hi, is cloud mining allowed on your service? |
| 19:30 | <rsdehart> | Cloudminer420: generally, anything legal is allowed |
| 19:30 | <Cloudminer420> | I'm currently using digital ocean looking for a switch because i heard mining isnt allowed on DO |
| 19:30 | <Peng> | Excessive use of resources is not allowed. To paraphrase the terms of service. |
| 19:30 | <@scrane> | In general we would consider mining an abuse of resources on the Linode. |
| 19:30 | <Cloudminer420> | Something about excessive resources cause account bans.. anotherwords, 100% cpu usage for 24/7 |
| 19:31 | <Cloudminer420> | thats what i was trying to figure out before i started an account |
| 19:31 | <rsdehart> | is there really anything you can cpu mine that will cover the cost of the server, anyway? |
| 19:32 | <Cloudminer420> | yes, right now there is |
| 19:32 | <rsdehart> | huh. TIL |
| 19:32 | <Cloudminer420> | lol well if its not allowed here its kinda pointless right? |
| 19:34 | <rsdehart> | only if the only computers you ever use are linode instances |
| 19:35 | <Cloudminer420> | no i have gpu rigs.. but i found a cpu coin thats difficulty is low and alot of vCPU's would do the trick for a few months. |
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| 20:39 | <rahul> | Hi there, I wanted to ask how many ssh users can I add on my plan? |
| 20:39 | <rahul> | I am planning to teach some students Linux. So wanted to give each one their own account to log on and explore linux commands, learn vi, awk, grep, etc. |
| 20:40 | <retro|blah> | There is no artificial restriction that Linode places on number of accounts per VPS. |
| 20:40 | <wraeth> | As many as you like, as far as I'm aware. |
| 20:40 | <rahul> | Awesome. Will they also be able to do FTP to the machine? |
| 20:41 | <Peng> | That's up to you |
| 20:41 | <wraeth> | If you have an FTP service running, sure. The VPS is a full host of your chosen distribution - it runs what you put on it. |
| 20:41 | <Peng> | SFTP is better, and doesn't require extra setup. :D |
| 20:41 | <rahul> | Great. Thanks guys. |
| 20:42 | <rahul> | By the way, right now my budget is less, so thinking of using the Nanode i.e. $5 per month. Is it a VPS? |
| 20:42 | <Peng> | Yes. |
| 20:43 | <rahul> | Awesome. I think I will come to this irc more often. Looks like a helpful place. |
| 20:46 | <trippeh> | we have our moments |
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| 21:31 | <Abi12> | Cloudminer420: I don't think 100% cpu 24/7 would be an abuse of resources. I remember pushing a faulty patch to my gameserver, and it was eating up a whole core for a few days. |
| 21:32 | <Abi12> | No one ever reached out to me about that. |
| 21:33 | <Peng> | They don't necessarily whack everyone immediately, or at all. |
| 21:35 | <Peng> | It probably depends on how long you do it, how highly loaded the host is in general, and if anyone else complains. |
| 21:36 | <Abi12> | Using a vps for mining is a sort of.. trashy thing to do anyway. |
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| 21:43 | <dwfreed> | Linode considers mining to be an abuse of resources |
| 21:43 | <dwfreed> | and it's generally not profitable |
| 21:43 | <dwfreed> | oh, scrane already said mining was abuse, I should read up farther |
| 21:43 | <Peng> | The user also said it actually would be profitable |
| 21:44 | <dwfreed> | I mean, that depends on the conversion rate to something useful |
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| 21:48 | <Cloudminer420> | rsdehart pm me again |
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| 21:53 | <flutter_shy> | o/ |
| 23:19 | <linbot> | New news from community: Can I download the CPU, Network and Disk data from the graph tab? <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/17174> || How do I upload my angular app to an A Record? <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/17173> |
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| 23:46 | <limit_pb> | My account is under review. How long does it usually take to wait for results? |
| 23:47 | <chesty> | don't know but asking on irc usually speeds it up, so i imagine it won't be long now |
| 23:48 | <limit_pb> | thanks |
| 23:48 | <Woet> | limit_pb: within 24 hours. |
| 23:49 | <limit_pb> | ok |
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