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#linode IRC Logs for 2018-09-09

---Logopened Sun Sep 09 00:00:42 2018
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00:34<hays>im doing something that is definitely less sensible that whatever you were suggesting :)
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00:43<Shashidhar>HI
00:43<millisa>Greetings
00:43<Shashidhar>Hi Mellisa How ru
00:44<retro|blah>What is a ru?
00:44<Shashidhar>It is r as an ARE, u as an YOU
00:44<dcraig>shouldn't it be "ay" then?
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01:05-!-el is "elky" on #ubuntu #linux #debian #linode #moocows #oftc
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01:26<hays>wow this is horrible
01:26<hays>i probably should not have done this :)
01:26<LouWestin>Do you have a reliable backup at least?
01:26<hays>you know things are going bad when you have to make a symlink to /bin/bash to get your package manager to work
01:27<hays>yeah. we'll see
01:27<LouWestin>No, no no, there's no we'll see if the back up works. ;-) lol
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01:29<hays>well i think ive maybe got through the bad part
01:30<LouWestin>Ok
01:30<hays>i think im left with a bunch of i386 packages with no installation candidate.. or maybe ihave duplicates
01:31<LouWestin>i386!?
01:32<hays>yeah
01:32<hays>this server im thinking it might be a bit more performant
01:32<LouWestin>Wow, that reminds me of the good old days when we bought our first computer, a 486
01:33<LouWestin>Ah, DOS 6.2 is what influenced me into Linux
01:34<dwfreed>please tell me you didn't try to manually convert to amd64 by installing all the amd64 packages
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02:04<hays>dwfreed: i did
02:05<hays>i think i got it
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02:20<rsdehart>millisa: how .ru?
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02:24<Shentino_>DOS 6.22 is best dos
02:26<LouWestin>Shentino_: YES! When we went to Windows 95, I was like where’s the command line!?
02:27<hays>slackware was the best dos
02:28<hays>alias dir=ls -l
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02:41<Woet>what just happened
02:42<Woet>dwfreed: please elaborate
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05:41<coinflow>Hi there, are you guys available?
05:41<coinflow>Ive got an urgent matter with my root account
05:42<csnxs>!ask
05:42<linbot>If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read http://alexfornuto.com/how-to-ask-for-help-on-irc/
05:46<Woet>coinflow: apparently it's not urgent enough to actually ask your question for the past 5 minutes
05:46<coinflow>sorry
05:46<coinflow>the link above doesnt work so im just trying to find out how to use this
05:47<Woet>just ask your question
05:47<Woet>and then wait
05:47<Woet>:)
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05:47<Woet>bye
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05:49<coinflow>Sory about that...I was using my account through ssh tunnel when it started being very slow (to type anything). I had just migrated to a stronger server so no processes were running outside of the main centos ones. I logged out of ssh and logged back in and it said "Login incorrect". I rebooted and changed the root password but I still get the same issue.
05:50<coinflow>I can log in as my other account which I do not use, does anyone know what could be wrong?
05:52<Woet>coinflow: did you try using LISH?
05:54<coinflow>Yes I did, it seems to have the same issue, I can login to a non super user account, which doesnt help, I am stupid enough to install all my files in the root folder like they told me not to, I am sorry...
05:55<Woet>coinflow: so you already reset the password through the panel? and it won't work on LISH?
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05:59<coinflow>that is correct
05:59<coinflow>longview has stopped working as well if that helps?
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11:23<uembank_>hi
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14:38<Xaif>Hello
14:38<millisa>Hi
14:38<Xaif>I love your new cloud.linode.com
14:39<millisa>I think they have a feedback link somewhere if you want to tell them
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14:42<@scrane>I appreciate Xaif.
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15:01<newlinodeuser>Hi there.
15:01<millisa>Greetings
15:02<newlinodeuser>Can I upgrade Linode plans at anytime without much hassle?
15:02<millisa>Yep
15:02<millisa>https://www.linode.com/docs/platform/disk-images/resizing-a-linode/
15:03<newlinodeuser>It doesn't require a complete migration?
15:03<newlinodeuser>Awesome. Thanks.
15:03<millisa>It does take a little time to move the disk
15:03<millisa>Their estimate on that page is pretty conservative though
15:03<LouWestin>newlinodeuser: You can also switch data centers too if need be.
15:04<newlinodeuser>So if I needed to do this...it would move the files, databases, everything? The .com domains wouldn't need any re-configuring?
15:05<LouWestin>If you’re upgrading/downgrading. No
15:05<newlinodeuser>Also. I am use to using cPanel. Is there a Control Panel that comes installed that has similar function to cPanel?
15:05<Peng>!cpanel
15:05<linbot>Install cPanel on CentOS: https://www.linode.com/docs/websites/cms/cpanel-on-centos Linode does not sell cPanel licenses, but it's provided free to Linode Managed customers: https://www.linode.com/managed Or try a free panel like Webmin: https://www.linode.com/docs/websites/cms/webmin-control-panel Or just use the command line: https://www.linode.com/docs/platform/linode-beginners-guide/
15:05<Peng>Not preinstalled.
15:07<LouWestin>Peng: If you transfer your server to another data center, does your up address change?
15:08<LouWestin>*IP
15:08<millisa>right now it does
15:18<LouWestin>K
15:20<newlinodeuser>I am trying out Linode. Is there a major difference between Nanode Instance versus Standard Instance? Basically the $5 vs $10 /m plan.
15:20<Peng>No
15:20<millisa>Other than the resources involved, not particularly
15:20<millisa>the nanode's backup service costs a higher percent than the others...
15:38<linbot>New news from community: use xshell on windows to create connection between VPS and SSH <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/17172>
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15:42<BDIkaros>!wx kdfw
15:42<linbot>BDIkaros: [metar] OBS at KDFW: 73.4F/23C, visibility 10 miles, wind 11.51 mph, chill 74.90F (altimeter: 29.93) [KDFW 091853Z 35010KT 10SM BKN023 OVC026 23/17 A2993 RMK AO2 SLP126 T02330172]
15:42<csnxs>!wx egnx
15:42<linbot>csnxs: [metar] OBS at EGNX: 59.0F/15C, visibility 9999 miles, wind 14.96 mph, chill 56.18F (altimeter: ) [EGNX 091920Z 26013KT 9999 SCT040 15/09 Q1017]
15:42<BDIkaros>It feels good out here.
15:43<csnxs>it feels windier than that
15:43<BDIkaros>Wind's dynamic, reporting stations only capture a static measurement every period.
15:50<newlinodeuser>I am following the Getting Started article. How do I open the "hosts" file in a text editor? How do I access it?
15:50<millisa>There are lots of text editors. This is one of them - https://www.linode.com/docs/tools-reference/tools/use-nano-text-editor-commands/
15:51<millisa>That same tools section has links to others like vim and emacs
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15:54<newlinodeuser>I installed CentOS WebPanel Admin GUI but it is not loading.
15:54<newlinodeuser>But I forgot to update the host file so that is probably my issue.
15:54<millisa>That'd be unusual to be the cause
15:55<newlinodeuser>Scratch that. It would be helpful if I added the :2030 at the end of the IP address :-)
15:56<hays>any way to fix this warning:
15:56<hays>grub-install: warning: File system `ext2' doesn't support embedding.
15:56<hays>grub-install: warning: Embedding is not possible. GRUB can only be installed in this setup by using blocklists. However, blocklists are UNRELIABLE and their use is discouraged..
16:05<newlinodeuser>Do I need to enable firewall?
16:06<@scrane>newlinodeuser You don't HAVE to but I highly recommend it.
16:06<@scrane>https://www.linode.com/docs/security/securing-your-server
16:06<@scrane>https://www.linode.com/docs/security/linux-security-basics
16:06<@scrane>https://www.linode.com/docs/security/firewalls/control-network-traffic-with-iptables
16:06<@scrane>https://www.linode.com/docs/security/using-fail2ban-for-security
16:06<newlinodeuser>Thank you.
16:06<@scrane>^ Those docs are ones I highly recommend following
16:07<@scrane>hays Are you using an ext2 filesystem?
16:08<hays>scrane: it looks to be ext3
16:08<hays>based on fstab
16:08<@scrane>Then you're most likely fine
16:08<newlinodeuser>So I have CentOS WebPanel Admin GUI up and running. I am getting myself familiar with it right now. To get a domain pointed here, do I update the DNS to ns1.centos-webpanel.com?
16:08<hays>https://bpaste.net/show/dfb16dfdbc80
16:09<hays>its also interesting it says installing for the i386-pc platform
16:14<LouWestin>For CentOS didn’t they move away from ip tables?
16:16<hays>i thought the new thing was gonna be BPF
16:17<LouWestin>Cent is using firewallLD
16:20<hays>https://developers.redhat.com/blog/2018/08/10/firewalld-the-future-is-nftables/
16:20<hays>maybe rhel8
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16:49<hays>wow the more i read about this the more i have no idea whether iptables or nftables syntax is going to be around for the future
16:51<LouWestin>That’s one reason why I stuck to Debian for simplicity
16:53<hays>there seems to be a big bias in some circles to RH, as if it is the only 'serious' distro
16:54<hays>centos is for those people :)
16:54<hays>my linode is also debian/stable
16:54<LouWestin>I would use it if I was in an enterprise place that used it.
16:55<hays>yeah i have used it it a bit. it was fine. I found it a bit off-putting what they do with the kernel
16:56<hays>the latest RHEL7.5 kernel is 3.10.0-862
16:57<LouWestin>For me, it was at the time that Linode mainly had only Ubuntu/Debian guides. I don’t like Ubuntu so I stuck to Debian.
16:58<hays>Ubuntu as a server is growing on me
16:58<hays>seems like theres a tendency to find ubuntu packages/ppas for things and not debian
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17:02<LouWestin>I run about as straight Debian as I can, minus the kernel. lol
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18:14<phlux>I run Debian stable on my servers, Fedora for most of my local needs.
18:18<phlux>I'm a FreeBSD native. Still miss it sometimes.
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19:29<Cloudminer420>Hi, is cloud mining allowed on your service?
19:30<rsdehart>Cloudminer420: generally, anything legal is allowed
19:30<Cloudminer420>I'm currently using digital ocean looking for a switch because i heard mining isnt allowed on DO
19:30<Peng>Excessive use of resources is not allowed. To paraphrase the terms of service.
19:30<@scrane>In general we would consider mining an abuse of resources on the Linode.
19:30<Cloudminer420>Something about excessive resources cause account bans.. anotherwords, 100% cpu usage for 24/7
19:31<Cloudminer420>thats what i was trying to figure out before i started an account
19:31<rsdehart>is there really anything you can cpu mine that will cover the cost of the server, anyway?
19:32<Cloudminer420>yes, right now there is
19:32<rsdehart>huh. TIL
19:32<Cloudminer420>lol well if its not allowed here its kinda pointless right?
19:34<rsdehart>only if the only computers you ever use are linode instances
19:35<Cloudminer420>no i have gpu rigs.. but i found a cpu coin thats difficulty is low and alot of vCPU's would do the trick for a few months.
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20:39<rahul>Hi there, I wanted to ask how many ssh users can I add on my plan?
20:39<rahul>I am planning to teach some students Linux. So wanted to give each one their own account to log on and explore linux commands, learn vi, awk, grep, etc.
20:40<retro|blah>There is no artificial restriction that Linode places on number of accounts per VPS.
20:40<wraeth>As many as you like, as far as I'm aware.
20:40<rahul>Awesome. Will they also be able to do FTP to the machine?
20:41<Peng>That's up to you
20:41<wraeth>If you have an FTP service running, sure. The VPS is a full host of your chosen distribution - it runs what you put on it.
20:41<Peng>SFTP is better, and doesn't require extra setup. :D
20:41<rahul>Great. Thanks guys.
20:42<rahul>By the way, right now my budget is less, so thinking of using the Nanode i.e. $5 per month. Is it a VPS?
20:42<Peng>Yes.
20:43<rahul>Awesome. I think I will come to this irc more often. Looks like a helpful place.
20:46<trippeh>we have our moments
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21:31<Abi12>Cloudminer420: I don't think 100% cpu 24/7 would be an abuse of resources. I remember pushing a faulty patch to my gameserver, and it was eating up a whole core for a few days.
21:32<Abi12>No one ever reached out to me about that.
21:33<Peng>They don't necessarily whack everyone immediately, or at all.
21:35<Peng>It probably depends on how long you do it, how highly loaded the host is in general, and if anyone else complains.
21:36<Abi12>Using a vps for mining is a sort of.. trashy thing to do anyway.
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21:43<dwfreed>Linode considers mining to be an abuse of resources
21:43<dwfreed>and it's generally not profitable
21:43<dwfreed>oh, scrane already said mining was abuse, I should read up farther
21:43<Peng>The user also said it actually would be profitable
21:44<dwfreed>I mean, that depends on the conversion rate to something useful
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21:48<Cloudminer420>rsdehart pm me again
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21:53<flutter_shy>o/
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23:46<limit_pb>My account is under review. How long does it usually take to wait for results?
23:47<chesty>don't know but asking on irc usually speeds it up, so i imagine it won't be long now
23:48<limit_pb>thanks
23:48<Woet>limit_pb: within 24 hours.
23:49<limit_pb>ok
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