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| 01:14 | <LaxNax> | Hello |
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| 01:15 | <LouWestin> | Hi and bye |
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| 01:22 | <tayfur> | hi guys! |
| 01:22 | <LouWestin> | Hi |
| 01:23 | <tayfur> | I came across Linode connection on the web. But I do not have any information. I need hosting for WordPress projem. Will it meet my needs? Could you give me some information on this? |
| 01:23 | <LouWestin> | !plans |
| 01:23 | <linbot> | https://www.linode.com/pricing#all |
| 01:24 | <LouWestin> | and !docs |
| 01:24 | <LouWestin> | https://linode.com/docs/ |
| 01:25 | <tayfur> | I have studied the plans but I need management and information. Is Cpanel available? Does it support needs like instant backups |
| 01:25 | <dwfreed> | !cpanel |
| 01:25 | <linbot> | Install cPanel on CentOS: https://www.linode.com/docs/websites/cms/cpanel-on-centos Linode does not sell cPanel licenses, but it's provided free to Linode Managed customers: https://www.linode.com/managed Or try a free panel like Webmin: https://www.linode.com/docs/websites/cms/webmin-control-panel Or just use the command line: https://www.linode.com/docs/platform/linode-beginners-guide/ |
| 01:25 | <dwfreed> | !backups |
| 01:26 | <LouWestin> | Linode is not managed unless you signup for their managed option. |
| 01:26 | <linbot> | You should probably have backups. If you don't want to set up your own, use Linode Backups. Prices start at $ 2.00/month depending on your plan. https://www.linode.com/backups |
| 01:26 | <LouWestin> | Backups are daily and there's a snapshot option |
| 01:28 | <LouWestin> | As far as what plan you need is going to entirely depend on your site project and how much traffic your're getting. |
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| 01:29 | <LouWestin> | and he's gone! |
| 01:31 | <rsdehart> | Hi all, how long is a piece of string? Plz answer |
| 01:31 | <LouWestin> | from here to there |
| 01:31 | <rsdehart> | ooh, good one |
| 01:34 | <Peng> | long enough for a cat to chew on |
| 01:35 | <LouWestin> | Don't let the cat swallow it though! |
| 02:27 | <linbot> | New news from community: Why can't I receive mail from dovecot <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/17184> |
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| 05:38 | <santhosh> | hi |
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| 05:45 | <kryptonik> | anyone from support online? |
| 05:46 | <Woet> | this is the community chat |
| 05:46 | <Woet> | if you have a question, ask it. |
| 05:46 | <kryptonik> | need to get my account verified so i can deploy my server |
| 05:46 | <rsdehart> | how long have you been waiting? |
| 05:46 | <Woet> | just wait? |
| 05:48 | <kryptonik> | been waiting about an hour.. if waiting was an option, i would, but this is time sensitive |
| 05:49 | <Woet> | can't speed it up i'm afraid |
| 05:49 | <Woet> | as long as you send all the requested info it won't be long |
| 05:58 | <linbot> | New news from community: L2TP/IPsec configuration failure logs. I need helps. <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/17185> |
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| 12:06 | <Roomii> | Hello |
| 12:06 | <Roomii> | Linode CPU are shared are dedicated? |
| 12:07 | <LouWestin> | Shared |
| 12:07 | <LouWestin> | Cloud servers |
| 12:08 | <Roomii> | And all other things like ram, storage and bandwidth are dedicated |
| 12:09 | <LouWestin> | The storage devices, etc. are shared. But you get “dedicated” space/memory. |
| 12:09 | <linbot> | New news from community: Convert ext3 boot filesystem to ext4 <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/17186> |
| 12:10 | <Roomii> | No, My question is that it is like virtual server in which I get dedicated ram, storage and bandwidth on the same shared physical server |
| 12:11 | <LouWestin> | Mmm.... I don’t know 100% |
| 12:12 | <Roomii> | You are from linode support or any user on linode |
| 12:13 | <LouWestin> | If you need true dedicated server(s) then I’d go with another service. |
| 12:13 | <Toba> | linode has stated in the past that it's abuse of the service to mine coins using cpu time on the linodes |
| 12:14 | <Toba> | so cpu at least is over-committed, not dedicated |
| 12:14 | <LouWestin> | Toba: Oh is that what he’s looking for? |
| 12:14 | <Roomii> | No, I am asking that your are from linode support team or any user on linode |
| 12:14 | <Toba> | 'abuse of resources' only matters if those resources are shared |
| 12:14 | <Toba> | I am just a customer. |
| 12:14 | <LouWestin> | Same as Toba. |
| 12:15 | <Toba> | I think linode does not overcommit RAM, but don't quote me |
| 12:15 | <Roomii> | So it means I will get better answer from linode support team |
| 12:15 | <Toba> | yeah |
| 12:15 | <LouWestin> | You can send an email/ticket. |
| 12:15 | <Roomii> | Ok, thanks |
| 12:15 | <LouWestin> | Np |
| 12:16 | <Roomii> | Why you are here to waste your time in answering people leaving your buisness |
| 12:16 | <LouWestin> | You asked a question and we answered it. |
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| 12:17 | <Toba> | Pretty rude to get mad that we tried to help |
| 12:17 | <Toba> | classic IRC |
| 12:18 | <LouWestin> | Toba: Facebook is worse. LOL |
| 12:18 | <LouWestin> | Much worse. Lol |
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| 12:22 | <LouWestin> | I should ask Linode just out of curiosity if the resources are spread across physical machines. |
| 12:29 | <dwfreed> | no, each Linode runs on 1 host |
| 12:29 | <dwfreed> | storage that is part of the plan is locally attached to that host; RAM and CPU are all local |
| 12:30 | <dwfreed> | Block Storage is the only thing that runs on other servers that you might be dependent on for normal functioning, depending on your setup |
| 12:31 | <LouWestin> | Ah ok. thanks dwfreed. |
| 12:32 | <dwfreed> | RAM and storage space are dedicated to the Linode; disk and network throughput and CPU time are all shared |
| 12:35 | <LouWestin> | Ok that’s what I thought. |
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| 14:35 | <ces> | hi |
| 14:35 | <millisa> | hi |
| 14:37 | <LouWestin> | Hi |
| 14:38 | <ces> | I'm trying to setup irssi |
| 14:38 | <ces> | do you know about that? |
| 14:38 | <LouWestin> | On Debian or? |
| 14:38 | <millisa> | i know about https://www.linode.com/docs/applications/messaging/using-irssi-for-internet-relay-chat/ |
| 14:38 | <millisa> | might have better luck asking your real quest |
| 14:39 | <LouWestin> | And Irssi has documentation too |
| 14:40 | <ces> | thanks you! i'm still a newby using linux,but the more i use it the more i like it |
| 14:40 | <millisa> | drugs are like that |
| 14:41 | <LouWestin> | What distro are we using? |
| 14:41 | <ces> | kali |
| 14:42 | <ces> | i have setup a new non-root user |
| 14:43 | <ces> | and by now i'm happy with it because i use some of the tools it has |
| 14:43 | <LouWestin> | You’d have to look at the Kali docs. |
| 14:43 | <ces> | louwesting i will |
| 14:43 | <ces> | but it takes soooo long to read it all |
| 14:44 | <ces> | and i have lotta things to do |
| 14:44 | <ces> | :'( |
| 14:46 | <ces> | thanks you all! have to go see you |
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| 14:47 | * | LouWestin Thinks Hmm... new Linux user and distro of choice of Kali? |
| 14:47 | <dwfreed> | people are dumb |
| 14:48 | <dwfreed> | and kali is the leet haxxor distro |
| 14:50 | <LouWestin> | I don’t buy his story about being a noob. When you say “I can’t install xyz” but can setup a non-root user account... Someone is a really bad lier. |
| 14:51 | <millisa> | I also don't believe they really setup another account. |
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| 15:43 | <Lyka> | i have a question about Longview: how useful is pro compared to the free version? |
| 15:48 | <Lyka> | i mean, for the average user |
| 15:52 | <phlux> | kali lol |
| 15:53 | <Abi12> | Lyka: I think the data retention/resolution intervals are what's different. |
| 15:53 | <Abi12> | Pro is unlimited retention and has gives insights every 1 minute. |
| 15:54 | <Lyka> | it's expensive |
| 15:54 | <dwfreed> | storage ain't free |
| 15:54 | <Abi12> | well for what you're getting ofcourse. |
| 15:54 | <Abi12> | ^^ |
| 15:56 | <Abi12> | Isn't longivew open source ( so you can host it yourself ? ) |
| 15:56 | <LouWestin> | $20 a month for up to 3 servers...pocket change |
| 15:58 | <dwfreed> | Abi12: the server side is not opensource |
| 15:58 | <dwfreed> | the client is, by nature of being written in perl |
| 15:58 | <Lyka> | of my 3 linodes, 2 are $5, 1 is $10 |
| 15:59 | <Abi12> | dwfreed: Yeah. I couldn't find a server anywhere. I assumed it works based off of REST, so you could just change the destination host in the client. |
| 16:00 | <Abi12> | Lyka: There are free system monitoring tools out there for linux too. |
| 16:00 | <Abi12> | You'll just need to house the data on your own server(s). Longview's benefits are that you don't need to worry about data detention + it's integrated with the manager. |
| 16:01 | <Lyka> | thanks |
| 16:02 | <Abi12> | dwfreed: 'our $post_target = 'https://longview.linode.com/post';' |
| 16:03 | <Abi12> | I'm assuming the longview posts the data there using some type of api key for auth. |
| 16:04 | <Abi12> | I don't speak perl though.. |
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| 16:08 | <dwfreed> | yes |
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| 16:30 | <syam> | hi |
| 16:30 | <millisa> | hi |
| 16:31 | <syam> | i need 32 GB 8 Cores 1TB GB SSD 16 TB 40 Gbps 7000 Mbps |
| 16:31 | <millisa> | Linode sells these - https://www.linode.com/pricing#all |
| 16:31 | <syam> | is there any customisable price |
| 16:32 | <dwfreed> | no |
| 16:32 | <millisa> | other than an attachable block storage, "CPU, transfer, storage, and RAM bundled into one simple price." |
| 16:32 | <millisa> | https://www.linode.com/blockstorage might interest you |
| 16:32 | <syam> | ok |
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| 20:51 | <Ian_A> | Hello |
| 20:51 | <Ian_A> | i was wondering if anyone is using block storage for running databases? |
| 20:52 | <Ian_A> | the only source i could find about it is an article from 2017 when block storage was in beta and the article advises against running critical data on block storage |
| 20:53 | <Woet> | not a great idea |
| 20:53 | <LouWestin> | Hi. I don’t. But I don’t have anything that large to need to. |
| 20:53 | <Woet> | unless you don't mind slower performance |
| 20:53 | <Ian_A> | any idea how much slower it would be? |
| 20:53 | <Woet> | depends on your amount of memory, cache hits, type of queries, indexes, etc |
| 20:54 | <Ian_A> | my database has outgrown the server, but i am not using anywhere near 10% of the CPU/RAM, so upgrading the linode might be an overkill |
| 20:56 | <Woet> | you can just try it. |
| 20:56 | <Woet> | attach block storage, copy your database to it, run the same queries, compare |
| 20:56 | <Woet> | but 10% of RAM means you can increase caching quite a bit |
| 21:00 | <Ian_A> | thank you for the advice |
| 21:01 | <Ian_A> | ill run some tests and and maybe upgrade the linode if necessary |
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| 21:04 | <MrPPS> | Ian_A: fwiw, very basic metric - buffered reads I've found to be about 40% of the speed |
| 21:05 | <MrPPS> | but as Woet said - best way is testing yourself, and increase your caching and test again :) |
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| 21:16 | <Ian_A> | huge performance loss |
| 21:17 | <Ian_A> | about 60% on complex queries that require lots of joins |
| 21:17 | <Ian_A> | and about 20~35% on the usual queries |
| 21:17 | <Ian_A> | i guess ill upgrade the linode and increase the innodb buffer |
| 21:17 | <Ian_A> | thank you all for the help |
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