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01:26 | <nate> | lol, well, network helper was kind enough to "see" I completely disabled networkmanager and as such added the nm_controlled="no" to my eth0 config (even though I had done so already as well), but it wasn't kind enough to fix the IPv6 address network manager assigned originally lol. Bugger it, gonna do what I shoulda done ages ago, just manually assign it :P |
01:27 | <dwfreed> | network helper should Just Work |
01:27 | <dwfreed> | it does not do static IPv6 assignment, but it should configure it so SLAAC works properly |
01:28 | <nate> | Yeah but I guess that's the issue, for some reason on CentOS7's SLAAC is doing 'private' instead of 'hwaddr', at least according to the results I've been finding |
01:28 | <dwfreed> | sysctl |
01:28 | <nate> | There's a forum post saying Linode fixed it at some point w/ the CentOS7 images, but that was a year and a half ago |
01:29 | <dwfreed> | or interface addrgenmode |
01:29 | <dwfreed> | the past is the past, stop focusing on it |
01:30 | <nate> | Well if it's an issue in current CentOS images as well that seems like something they might want to fix again no? Though I'm not sure how nobody would have noticed before now, unless mine just by some chance became an oddity out of all installs |
01:32 | <dwfreed> | pastebin 'ip -d link show eth0' and 'sysctl -a | grep net.ipv6' |
01:33 | <nate> | addgenmode is eui64 if that's what you're looking for, as for the rest let me re-paste it, looks like it expired |
01:34 | <nate> | https://paste.st-projects.com/4b6w2y7mp9n0dwhzrkdd as far as I can tell it SHOULD be pulling the public address, I don't know if it's simply not though because it already 'sees' an address that was assigned by networkmanager (which has since been disabled and the system even restarted) |
01:35 | <nate> | It's a fresh CentOS install, only thing I've done with it is build php, lighttpd, and replace ufw with iptables, and yes I made sure the IPv6 ICMP was open in the firewall |
01:37 | <drussell[m]> | Wait what |
01:37 | <drussell[m]> | Linode's CentOS image comes with ufw? |
01:37 | <nate> | Sorry meant firewalld |
01:37 | <drussell[m]> | o right. |
01:37 | <nate> | (been dealing with an ubuntu system on and off too the past couple days *_*) |
01:39 | <drussell[m]> | I still don't 100% understand what the problem is -- didn't read far enough back I'm guessing. |
01:39 | <drussell[m]> | Was just thrown off by your ufw comment :p |
01:40 | <nate> | drussell[m]: Fresh CentOS7 install, it decided to 'bind' my private local IPv6 address as my eth0 IPv6 rather than the public and now I can't get it to stop |
01:40 | <drussell[m]> | Well that's neat. |
01:41 | <nate> | it's actually network helper that's doing it looks like, as I just piddled with the config to manually do an IPv6 (so it would reset it on boot) and it's still pulling the private, possibly because of SLAAC |
01:41 | <nate> | I thought it was networkmanager in CentOS but apparently not |
01:41 | <drussell[m]> | Did you check Network Manager to make sure it's not stuck in there still? |
01:41 | <dwfreed> | pastebin 'ps aux' 'ls -l /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts' 'cat /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0' |
01:42 | <drussell[m]> | Er, it should be NetworkManager in CentOS -- upstream has NetworkManager. Not sure if Linode removes it in their images tho |
01:42 | <dwfreed> | NetworkMangler is a steaming pile of shit |
01:42 | <nate> | drussell[m]: It's there yes, but I disabled it completely (thus my comment about thinking it was but apparently not) |
01:42 | <dwfreed> | so going back to network-scripts is a good choice |
01:43 | <drussell[m]> | Yeah what dwfreed said :p |
01:43 | <nate> | Cause the eth0 script was even updated by network helper to make sure nm_controlled=no because it identified networkmanager was disabled |
01:43 | <dwfreed> | nate: see my new pastebin requests above |
01:43 | <nate> | dwfreed: Not sure what you expect to see in ps aux but one sec |
01:43 | <dwfreed> | that networkmanager isn't running :P |
01:44 | <drussell[m]> | He also wants to confirm that you're not uploading janky stuff to the internet via a headless browser. He's a spy, he wants all our ps auxes :p |
01:44 | <nate> | If it is then I have even worse issues than I thought considering I smoked the service in systemctl lol |
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01:57 | <nate> | dwfreed: https://paste.st-projects.com/8r8jzpo4kqs262mcfp1r like I said, I smoked networkmanager, since even network helper identified it as dead :P. Also sorry for delay, had to pee lol |
01:58 | <nate> | and now I'm gonna go heat up some left over lo mein cause my grumbling stomach isn't helping anything either lol |
02:00 | <dwfreed> | that seems to be missing 'IPV6_AUTOCONF=yes' try adding that |
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02:05 | <nate> | I did before, as well as a change w/ it set to no and a manual address assignment, main issue is they get reset by networkhelper on restart. Let me try with just that one again though |
02:06 | <dwfreed> | you have to disable Network Helper if you're going to be editing the file directly |
02:07 | <dwfreed> | because it completely replaces the file |
02:07 | <dwfreed> | oh, /etc/sysconfig/network is also needed, please pastebin that |
02:09 | <nate> | if I'm disabling network helper I might as well just manually assign the IP and be done with it lol |
02:10 | <dwfreed> | it makes 0 sense why your system is not getting the address automatically |
02:10 | <dwfreed> | if this change doesn't fix it, i'm going to start questioning your firewall |
02:10 | <dwfreed> | your sysctl settings are correct for SLAAC to work |
02:10 | <dwfreed> | and yet it isn't |
02:12 | <drussell[m]> | I mean, he did say he "replaced firewalld with iptables" -- is it possible Linode ships with nftables? Maybe nftables and iptables are both in use? |
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02:13 | <dwfreed> | drussell[m]: plausible |
02:14 | <dwfreed> | 'nft list ruleset' |
02:14 | <nate> | I doubt linode changed the default firewall in centos, that would be goofy, plus if it was a firewall issue I wouldn't expect it to be pulling the private IP, it shouldn't be able to pull any at all |
02:14 | <dwfreed> | Linode doesn't have to change anything |
02:14 | <dwfreed> | if nftables is available, and firewalld is recent enough, firewalld will use nftables instead of xtables |
02:15 | <nate> | Well firewalld is otherwise 'out' and disabled, anywhoot I just took the lazy path and manually assigned the IP in eth0 and disabled network helper |
02:15 | <nate> | I'll work on figuring out the bug when I have more time |
02:15 | <drussell[m]> | nate: Just for giggles and shits, if you start a Linode in the same DC with the same distro, does it do the same thing with Network Helper? |
02:16 | <dwfreed> | nate: the kernel assigns fe80::/64 addresses when the interface is brought up and IPv6 is not disabled in sysctl; it does not depend on firewall in any way |
02:20 | <dwfreed> | drussell[m]: I deployed a nanode in fremont with cent 7, waiting for it to boot |
02:20 | <dwfreed> | with network helper enabled |
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02:21 | <dwfreed> | comes up with IPv6 just fine |
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02:22 | <dwfreed> | so I'm going to blame firewall |
02:23 | <nate> | dwfreed: Came up with the -public- firewall displayed on the account? |
02:23 | <dwfreed> | yes |
02:23 | <nate> | The issue wasn't that I had no IPv6, the issue was that it was assigning the private |
02:23 | <dwfreed> | do I have to repeat myself? |
02:23 | <dwfreed> | the kernel assigns fe80::/64 addresses when the interface is brought up and IPv6 is not disabled in sysctl; it does not depend on firewall in any way |
02:24 | <dwfreed> | it does not depend on anything |
02:24 | <dwfreed> | heck, pretty sure it still does it on real NICs if the cable is unplugged |
02:25 | <dwfreed> | right now I'm applying package updates, so it's a fully up-to-date system, and then will reboot |
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--- | Log | opened Wed Sep 26 02:25:43 2018 |
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02:26 | <dwfreed> | I disabled NetworkManager for good measure |
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02:29 | <dwfreed> | still has v6 |
02:30 | <dwfreed> | fwiw, on default cent 7 deployments, firewalld uses iptables, so we can rule out nftables |
02:30 | <dwfreed> | CentOS helpfully doesn't enable /proc/config.gz |
02:32 | <nate> | dwfreed: The main issue with that though is what I said earlier (at least pretty sure I did), in that it was like that on a fresh install, ie; no reboots yet, unless somehow in the process of switching to purely iptables it lost the assignment which would be weird :P |
02:32 | <nate> | either that or something else got messed with and I completely forgot lol |
02:32 | <nate> | which is possible |
02:33 | <dwfreed> | PEBKAC |
02:34 | <Woet> | this is one long ass conversation about boring stuff |
02:36 | <dwfreed> | on this fresh linode, firewalld allows SSH on both v4 and v6, as well as allowing DHCPv6; ICMP and ICMPv6 are both completely allowed; everything else is rejected with icmp-host-prohibited or icmp6-adm-prohibited |
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02:37 | <dwfreed> | and firewalld does not change chain policies |
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02:39 | <dwfreed> | it uses goto as needed, which is interesting |
02:47 | <nate> | dwfreed: Yeah but you keep those policies, that's just it. when you disable firewalld and enable iptables service the policies stay, it doesn't reset them, so all the default policies were still there |
02:47 | <nate> | all I did was add things like 80 and 443 |
02:51 | <dwfreed> | no reason you can't flush them away and put in your own |
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02:52 | <dwfreed> | sometimes I wish tcpdump could choose to apply after the firewall rather than before |
02:52 | <dwfreed> | (or the inverse, in the case of output packets) |
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06:33 | <Waseem> | Help: who should i speak to ? |
06:33 | <Woet> | your lawyer |
06:33 | <Woet> | or your doctor |
06:33 | <Woet> | or your mechanic |
06:33 | <Woet> | not sure, "Help" isn't very descriptive |
06:34 | <LouWestin> | Or us? |
06:34 | <Woet> | unlikely |
06:34 | <LouWestin> | True |
06:34 | <Waseem> | :)- me being dumb, aplogy. |
06:35 | <Woet> | Waseem: I definitely didn't say "please pm me for private free one-on-one support" |
06:35 | <Woet> | https://workaround.org/getting-help-on-irc/ |
06:37 | <LouWestin> | Strangers PMing for help is a big no no here. |
06:37 | <Woet> | s/here/anywhere on IRC/ |
06:37 | <Waseem> | wow - my first contact with the #linode (admit being dumb) but this is not the help a first timer would have expected |
06:38 | <LouWestin> | So... what’s the question? |
06:38 | <wraeth> | Waseem: Just state your issue, any relevant errors, links to logs, and someone who is able can jump in and help. |
06:38 | <Woet> | Waseem: then I definitely recommend reading https://workaround.org/getting-help-on-irc/ |
06:39 | <wraeth> | ^ |
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06:40 | <Woet> | cya |
06:40 | <wraeth> | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
06:41 | <LouWestin> | And he’s gone! |
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11:32 | <Peng> | Does Linode have any interest in adding authoritative nameserver instances in the other data centers? For moar redundancy. Cloudflare means you wouldn't have to add more hostnames, right? |
11:32 | <Peng> | I mean, is 5 data centers really enough? What if the entire US and UK explode? |
11:33 | <Abi12> | um what. |
11:33 | <LouWestin> | Are the five name servers located in the same DC? |
11:33 | <Peng> | No, they're in 5 DCs. |
11:34 | <LouWestin> | Ok. All in the States? |
11:34 | <Peng> | No. |
11:34 | <Peng> | London too. |
11:34 | <LouWestin> | Ok |
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12:30 | <hawk> | What is the architecture with the cloudflare bits, btw? Are all the cloudflare proxies in front of all the nameservers or is there like a 1:1 mapping or what is up? |
12:31 | <Peng> | If you send a bunch of queries and look at the response times, it appears to be all:all |
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13:13 | <hawk> | Peng: Makes sense |
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13:29 | <drussell[m]> | I like that bottom one on that link "Careful who you trust" |
13:29 | <drussell[m]> | Should include a note about rm -rfv / |
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13:48 | <LouWestin> | I was slightly surprised that I was trusted (in root) to fix a SSL redirect issue on a couple sites. IDK, maybe they don’t consider security a top priority. |
13:51 | <drussell[m]> | LouWestin: Here or where? |
13:52 | <LouWestin> | Different service, non Linode client who found me on the internet. |
13:52 | <drussell[m]> | Hah that's fun |
13:56 | <LouWestin> | I’m a trustworthy person, BUT...you should error on the side of caution anyway. I probably should’ve suggested that we switched to a sudo account and straighten out a few other things but i don’t think he would’ve cared. Lol |
13:57 | <LouWestin> | He wanted the problem fixed fast and he wanted it cheap. Done! Lol |
14:00 | <LouWestin> | Although I did at least update the servers, turn on the firewall, and added fail2ban. |
14:04 | <drussell[m]> | #GoodSamaritan |
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14:37 | <Alvaro009> | Help me, i want to ask, how much does it cost / year 16GB RAM 2TB SSD ? |
14:38 | <millisa> | https://www.linode.com/pricing#all |
14:38 | <millisa> | That's what they sell |
14:39 | <Alvaro009> | can i want to custom storage? |
14:39 | <LouWestin> | $960 a year for the 16 GB. |
14:40 | <millisa> | a few of the datacenters have a blockstorage addon https://www.linode.com/blockstorage |
14:40 | <Peng> | Most of them, by now |
14:40 | <millisa> | might be all but Tokyo |
14:40 | <Peng> | Tokyo and Atlanta |
14:41 | <Alvaro009> | Ok Thank you dear... |
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14:41 | <millisa> | Peng = dear. right? |
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14:45 | <LouWestin> | Aww that’s cute. LOL! |
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15:44 | <gparent_> | Peng = deer |
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15:53 | <dand> | cloudflare alliance for egress requires me to use cloudflare infront of linode to benefit from it? |
15:54 | <dand> | https://blog.cloudflare.com/smart-routing-for-bandwidth-alliance/ |
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15:59 | <Peng> | At this point, yes. |
15:59 | <Peng> | Other CDNs may sign up in the future. |
16:12 | <dand> | Peng: using CloudFlare means public catchable content? |
16:12 | <dand> | or can I use it with private content as well? |
16:12 | <Peng> | How private? |
16:12 | <dand> | like signed object url from object storage (minio) |
16:12 | <Peng> | Isn't that as public and cacheable as anything else? |
16:13 | <Peng> | Anyway, Cloudflare's intended to proxy whole websites. Including dynamic and private content. Doesn't necessarily make it convenient for all use cases, but you can probably do it. |
16:14 | <dand> | thanks. I'll read about it |
16:14 | <dand> | I also need UDP which CloudFlare can't handle |
16:15 | <Peng> | You can still use it for some things, if you want. |
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20:58 | <staticsafe> | is there confirmation that Linode is part of this Bandwidth Alliance? |
21:00 | <MrPPS> | https://www.cloudflare.com/bandwidth-alliance/linode/ |
21:04 | <staticsafe> | MrPPS: thanks |
21:04 | <MrPPS> | np |
21:09 | <Peng> | Linode tweeted it |
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22:29 | <millisa> | Just saw the blog from 9/18 about the year end events and you (probably unknowingly) mentioned one of my customers; that happens to use cloudflare+linode and will benefit from the new alliance deal |
22:34 | <millisa> | (that was more a 'thanks!' not a complaint) |
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22:58 | <john> | hi |
22:58 | <millisa> | hi |
22:58 | <john> | do you have dedicate server in singapore |
22:59 | <millisa> | Linode has a datacenter in singapore, but they sell VPS, not dedicated. https://www.linode.com/speedtest |
22:59 | <john> | thank you |
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