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| 00:24 | <fergtm> | you will need to add the private IP address to the configuration in /etc/systemd/network/05-eth0.network |
| 00:25 | <fergtm> | the instructions for Ubuntu 17.10 should also work for Ubuntu 18.04 |
| 00:25 | <fergtm> | https://www.linode.com/docs/networking/linux-static-ip-configuration/#arch-coreos-container-linux-ubuntu-17-10 |
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| 00:43 | <fergtm> | what could be causing slow transfers over IPv6? |
| 00:43 | <fergtm> | from two linodes in the same datacenter (dallas) I get a scp transfer speeds of 3.9MB/s in one and just 275.5KB/s for the other |
| 00:44 | <millisa> | scp'ing out to somewhere non-linode? |
| 00:44 | <fergtm> | to my laptop |
| 00:44 | <millisa> | and it's fast over ipv4 to the same systems? |
| 00:45 | <grawity> | fergtm: 18.04 uses networkd but IIRC the configs are autogenerated via netplan |
| 00:45 | <fergtm> | yes, using ipv4 I get around 3.9MB/s for both |
| 00:45 | <grawity> | so editing the .network file directly might not quite work |
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| 00:47 | <Peng_> | Lousy ISP? |
| 00:47 | <millisa> | the speedtest at https://www.linode.com/speedtest has 100mb files - if you pull those onto the slow linode, do you see any difference doing it ipv4/ipv6? |
| 00:47 | <fergtm> | grawity: I followed those instructions for ubuntu 18.04 and they seem to work. Maybe some other black magic is happening |
| 00:47 | <Abi12> | Maybe it's not a pure ipv6 path. |
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| 00:48 | <fergtm> | back to the ipv6 issue I'm using hurricane electric tunnel broker |
| 00:48 | <fergtm> | traceroute to both linodes is the same |
| 00:48 | <fergtm> | not sure why one is slower |
| 00:50 | <grawity> | the same in which ways |
| 00:50 | <Peng_> | The Internet is magic. Different IPs can take surprisingly different paths. |
| 00:50 | <fergtm> | from my laptop to linode |
| 00:50 | <fergtm> | haven't tried the other way |
| 00:50 | <grawity> | but it's not |
| 00:50 | <grawity> | it's from your laptop to he.net to linode |
| 00:50 | <grawity> | that's how a tunnel works |
| 00:51 | <Peng_> | Also, different protocols can get different paths. ;D |
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| 00:53 | <Peng_> | You're using the Dallas tunnel server, huh? |
| 00:53 | <fergtm> | yes, dallas tunnel server |
| 00:54 | <fergtm> | mmm, I just ran traceroute from linode to my laptop, from the fast linode the path looks "normal" I think, from the slow one it show only one hop |
| 00:54 | <Peng_> | ...One hop? |
| 00:55 | <fergtm> | yes |
| 00:55 | <fergtm> | oh |
| 00:56 | <fergtm> | oops, sorry, I just remembered I'm running a vpn between that linode and my laptop |
| 00:56 | <fergtm> | now I have to figure why the vpn is slow |
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| 01:01 | <fergtm> | but still how is ipv6 going through the vpn? |
| 01:01 | <fergtm> | I'm using openvpn with ethernet bridging |
| 01:02 | <grawity> | well, why wouldn't it be going through the VPN |
| 01:02 | <fergtm> | I though that the openvpn interfaces would only get a link local ipv6 address |
| 01:02 | <grawity> | they normally would, but you also mentioned bridging |
| 01:02 | <fergtm> | how does it know about the public IPv6 address and why it prefers that route |
| 01:02 | <grawity> | although are you sure you didn't configure server-ipv6 in OpenVPN? |
| 01:03 | <grawity> | in general |
| 01:03 | <grawity> | `ip -6 route show match <laptop_ipv6>` |
| 01:03 | <grawity> | `ip -6 route get <laptop_ipv6>` |
| 01:04 | <@mtjones> | If your laptop has IPv6 and your Linode's IPv6 address is reachable the VPN could be doing 6to4 encapsulation of IPv6 packets over IPv4 |
| 01:05 | <grawity> | well, sure it could, but it generally doesn't do so unless told to by the routing table |
| 01:06 | <@mtjones> | Good point! |
| 01:09 | <fergtm> | I bridged the openvpn interface in my laptop with the physical interface connected to my router, I think the linode got a public ip from my router via the bridge |
| 01:10 | <fergtm> | for the openvpn interface in the linode I assigned an static ipv4 address in the same subnet as my local network |
| 01:11 | <fergtm> | I'm trying to have the linode accesible as if it is a local computer in my network |
| 01:16 | <fergtm> | but the dns record I used to reach the node points to the ipv6 address provided by Linode, why it prefers to route over the vpn? |
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| 01:24 | <fergtm> | ok, it makes sense that it will prefer the interface with a IPv6 address in the same subnet |
| 01:24 | <fergtm> | I completely forgot about the vpn |
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| 01:32 | <grawity> | paths can be asymmetric |
| 01:32 | <grawity> | it doesn't matter if your requests go to the Linode directly |
| 01:32 | <grawity> | the Linode makes its own choice on how the *replies* should be sent |
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| 03:09 | <linbot> | New news from community: Edit Ip Address from DNS Manager <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/17224> |
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| 03:37 | <linbot> | New news from status: Emergency Network Maintenance - Fremont <https://status.linode.com/incidents/y8dsr9n5fndx> |
| 03:40 | <Woet> | DEFCON 1 |
| 03:40 | <Woet> | EMERGENCY |
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| 07:15 | <JessicaNewb> | Are there any limitations (bandwidth, speed, etc) on the private network? |
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| 07:36 | <DrJ> | JessicaNewb: the private network is free, doesn't count towards your bandwidth or anything |
| 07:37 | <DrJ> | obviously there is a max speed you can get, but I'm not sure what that is |
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| 07:47 | <grawity> | fwiw, I'm getting roughly ~450 Mbps locally |
| 07:48 | <grawity> | but the private 'network' is just private *addressing* – there's no separation |
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| 09:40 | <LouWestin> | I started testing cpanel out and I’m curious if anyone has run into the same firewall issue? Continuing |
| 09:42 | <LouWestin> | I set IPtables to allow input on 22,80,443, and 2087. Installation finishes up, restart, and when go to the IP address:2087 the page times out. So... |
| 09:43 | <LouWestin> | Check IP tables, some rules look like they’ve changed, so I flush them, redo it, and then the page loads. |
| 09:44 | <tafa2> | LouWestin |
| 09:44 | <tafa2> | cPanel configures it's own firewall using the GUI |
| 09:44 | <tafa2> | You shouldn't have to set your own rules |
| 09:45 | <tafa2> | let cPanel do it's thing - I'd also recommend looking into CSF |
| 09:45 | <tafa2> | https://configserver.com/cp/csf.html |
| 09:45 | <LouWestin> | Ok. The firewall rules inset is during the initial installation. |
| 09:46 | <LouWestin> | The problem is for some reason, the login page doesn’t come up. |
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| 09:50 | <LouWestin> | Actually I should say the page doesn’t come up due to the firewall. |
| 10:15 | <LouWestin> | tafa2: I’ll also test out CSF too. Thanks! |
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| 10:38 | <khuchpenh> | Hello |
| 10:38 | <LouWestin> | Hi |
| 10:40 | <khuchpenh> | i ssh connection was closed , how can i do ? |
| 10:40 | <LouWestin> | Log into your Linode account, see if you can get in through Lish |
| 10:41 | <LouWestin> | And check your firewall settings |
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| 11:24 | <server> | hi |
| 11:24 | <LouWestin> | Hi |
| 11:24 | <server> | can I set windows system in linode server? |
| 11:24 | <LouWestin> | !windows |
| 11:24 | <linbot> | It is possible to run Windows on !kvm Linodes. Here's a set of unofficial instructions: https://github.com/linode/docs/pull/501 |
| 11:25 | <server> | I can set windows? |
| 11:25 | <server> | I can install it? |
| 11:25 | <LouWestin> | Windows server? |
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| 11:25 | <server> | yes |
| 11:26 | <LouWestin> | Read the link from linbot. |
| 11:26 | <@scrane> | It's something you can do, but Support wouldn't be able to provide any troubleshooting if you encounter issues with it. |
| 11:26 | <@scrane> | !winode |
| 11:26 | <linbot> | It is possible to run Windows on !kvm Linodes. Here's a set of unofficial instructions: https://github.com/linode/docs/pull/501 |
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| 13:29 | <peter> | Good evening |
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| 13:30 | <smallclone> | hi, feel free to ask your question |
| 13:30 | <Guest415> | I might have a few |
| 13:30 | <Guest415> | ^^ |
| 13:31 | <Guest415> | So I have a linode that I haven't touched in god knows how long, mainly used it to send files via ftp |
| 13:31 | <Guest415> | But it is also hosting a website |
| 13:31 | <Guest415> | Now I had the idea of instead of using strato or the like for websites for friends I could simply use the linode |
| 13:32 | <Guest415> | But I have an e-mail server running on it as well that is my personal e-mail |
| 13:32 | <Guest415> | And apparently I am running ubunto 8.04 |
| 13:32 | <smallclone> | well, we're still not at a question but you should stop running ubuntu 8.04 |
| 13:32 | <Guest415> | So the question is should I start by backing up the wordpress website it currently hosts and the |
| 13:33 | <Guest415> | Database and start over? |
| 13:33 | <Guest415> | Yeah figrued that was a little outdated |
| 13:33 | <Guest415> | I'm just not sure how to keep my e-mail stuff working as well |
| 13:34 | <smallclone> | make a new Linode, copy your configs, etc to the new one, set it up, then when you're sure everything works swap the IP addresses so you don't have to set up a bunch of records for your mail server again |
| 13:34 | <Guest415> | It's a googlemail server installation I think. It's been a while since I did that. I am def a hard nub at admin stuff |
| 13:35 | <Guest415> | Sounds like a plan |
| 13:35 | <smallclone> | do you mean like, just a google apps things where you basically just create a record and use gmail |
| 13:36 | <Guest415> | I think yes |
| 13:36 | <Guest415> | Is that easy enough to do? |
| 13:36 | <Guest415> | I mean I must have done that once before |
| 13:36 | <smallclone> | do you go to gmail to access your mail? |
| 13:36 | <Guest415> | Yes |
| 13:36 | <smallclone> | ok then yeah, that shouldn't be affected |
| 13:36 | <Guest415> | I mean I click login on google |
| 13:36 | <Guest415> | And type in my password |
| 13:36 | <smallclone> | you're not actually hosting anything on the Linode |
| 13:36 | <smallclone> | for that anyway |
| 13:36 | <Guest415> | Oh |
| 13:37 | <Guest415> | lol |
| 13:37 | <Guest415> | o.k. |
| 13:37 | <Guest415> | I think I did some configuration with google mail on the linode though. But that was 4 years ago so I am not sure what it is that I did. |
| 13:38 | <Guest415> | Alright so spin up a new Linode |
| 13:38 | <Guest415> | And start over with new ubunto |
| 13:38 | <smallclone> | yes, make sure it is in the same datacenter as the current one so you can swap IPs when you're done |
| 13:38 | <Guest415> | Follow the guides for security etc. |
| 13:38 | <smallclone> | yeah there's 16.04 or 18.04 LTS available currently |
| 13:39 | <Guest415> | When ready to start hosting a website copy the files onto the new one and then swap the ip addresses |
| 13:39 | <Guest415> | correct? |
| 13:39 | <Guest415> | And by the way thanks a lot for helping me out here |
| 13:39 | <Guest415> | That's very kind of you |
| 13:39 | <smallclone> | copy the files, set up the web server, test it, then swap |
| 13:40 | <Guest415> | Do you mind if I copy paste this for my own reference? |
| 13:40 | <smallclone> | basically the reason to have two Linodes is so you can set things up and test them while still having your other one up and running |
| 13:40 | <smallclone> | it's a public IRC channel copy-and-paste away |
| 13:40 | <Guest415> | Yeah that makes sense. |
| 13:41 | <Guest415> | O.k. then the relatively obvious next question is, should I try to go with some form of management software? |
| 13:42 | <Guest415> | If the goal was to get multiple websites running as virtual hosts |
| 13:42 | <Guest415> | ? |
| 13:42 | <Guest415> | Or is that overkill for my purpose |
| 13:42 | <smallclone> | if you don't feel comfortable configuring this stuff yourself |
| 13:42 | <Guest415> | I saw there was a guide for using nginx to host multiple websites |
| 13:42 | <Guest415> | No def not comfortable to configure much myself |
| 13:43 | <Guest415> | As I recall I was hanging out here in chat and getting a ton of help when I set up my first linode 4 years ago. It is also my only linode still to this day lol. And I haven't done much with it, but it's been amazing for ftp |
| 13:44 | <Guest415> | So there is a comparison with using plesk and some other ones |
| 13:44 | <smallclone> | there's plesk and webmin and cpanel and probably others |
| 13:44 | <smallclone> | I couldn't really offer much input as to what is better, though cpanel costs money |
| 13:44 | <smallclone> | there's comparisons available if you search for it I'm sure |
| 13:45 | <Guest415> | I have used plesk before, but I rly won't need many of the features at all I don't think, so is there anything that would be more suited to a newb that just wants to have a bit of an overview as to what is going on with multiple wordpress based websites |
| 13:45 | <Guest415> | Have you used webmin |
| 13:46 | <Guest415> | No. |
| 13:46 | <smallclone> | i haven't really used any of them, maybe cpanel briefly. |
| 13:46 | <Guest415> | Yeah me too cpanel |
| 13:47 | <LouWestin> | CPanel will require CentOS |
| 13:47 | <smallclone> | it will also require money |
| 13:47 | <Guest415> | Probably not worth it |
| 13:48 | <Guest415> | I mean my ideal management system will let me add websites easily |
| 13:48 | <Guest415> | lol |
| 13:48 | <LouWestin> | I’m testing cpanel on the two week trial, but that’s just for fun. |
| 13:48 | <smallclone> | Guest415: if you have experience with plesk that's probably your best bet |
| 13:48 | <Guest415> | I don't even know if that is what they are for, seems to me that panels help with a shitload of things |
| 13:48 | <Guest415> | plesk also costs money i think |
| 13:48 | <smallclone> | it looks like they have a fairly easy setup process: https://www.plesk.com/blog/product-technology/install-plesk-on-linode/ |
| 13:48 | <smallclone> | since they have a stackscript |
| 13:49 | <Turkeylegjones> | Cash Money |
| 13:49 | <smallclone> | ah plesk costs money too huh |
| 13:50 | <Guest415> | Yes, but 7.33 for up to 10 websites is not that bad |
| 13:50 | <LouWestin> | I’d be weary of a panel option that was totally free. |
| 13:50 | <smallclone> | well they have a webmin guide anyway if you want to spin up a new Linode and try that https://www.linode.com/docs/websites/cms/how-to-install-a-webmin-control-panel-and-modules/ |
| 13:50 | <Guest415> | Smallclone you are the best |
| 13:50 | <Guest415> | Here have some bacon |
| 13:51 | <Guest415> | Where did the mmmmmh bacon bot go? |
| 13:51 | <Guest415> | ^^ |
| 13:51 | <smallclone> | i'm not familiar with that one |
| 13:51 | <smallclone> | is it |
| 13:51 | <smallclone> | !bacon |
| 13:51 | <linbot> | mmm bacon |
| 13:51 | <Guest415> | ahhhh |
| 13:51 | <Guest415> | yes |
| 13:52 | <Guest415> | hehe |
| 13:52 | <Guest415> | So why should be weary of webmin Mr. Westin? |
| 13:55 | <Guest415> | There is def not a whole lot out there as far as info on webmin + nginx + virtual servers for hosting multiple websites |
| 13:56 | <LouWestin> | Just anything that is totally free, I’m weary to use it unless I know there’s strong support/up keep and there’s not some backdoor/spyware component. |
| 13:56 | <Guest415> | I saw a linode guide somewhere |
| 13:57 | <smallclone> | LouWestin: both of those things can totally be concerns with paid software |
| 13:57 | <Guest415> | @LouWestin Yeah as a total noob I am not even sure it is a good idea for me to have management software o there |
| 13:57 | <Guest415> | Apparently there aren't exactly a shitload of guides out there for hosting websites |
| 13:57 | <Guest415> | via webmin |
| 13:57 | <LouWestin> | smallclone: True. Think M$ |
| 13:58 | <LouWestin> | And google. lol |
| 13:59 | <Guest415> | I am sure that almost everything has backdoors, but I have nothing to hide bwahahahahahahaa, no but seriously if someone with knwoledge wants to hack me, I am sure they can anyway. Not really that worried about adding more backdoors by using a management software. I think webmin, plesk and cpanel are all relatively normal things to use for web hosts, so there are better value targets out there using this stuff |
| 13:59 | <LouWestin> | I mean it’s a trade off in the sense of budget vs how much convenience. |
| 14:00 | <LouWestin> | vs support. |
| 14:02 | <Guest415> | Yes looking at webmin stuff on the side here |
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| 14:02 | <Guest415> | plesk def seems much more refined and a bigger user base and 7.33 per month is not exactly a shitton of money |
| 14:03 | <LouWestin> | If say Cpanel closedown, you’ve built your whole system around it, now you have migrate that to something else. |
| 14:03 | <Guest415> | if it does make my job easier, it'll probably be very worth it |
| 14:03 | <smallclone> | this is your job? |
| 14:03 | <Guest415> | is plesk bigger than cpanel? |
| 14:03 | <Guest415> | oh hell no this is not my job |
| 14:03 | <Guest415> | But I do make some websites here and there on the side |
| 14:03 | <Guest415> | Like many people lol |
| 14:04 | <Guest415> | And usually I get them a strato account or something like that and that's that, but I just thought why the hell am I doing that, when I have a linode and could just host people's sites myself |
| 14:04 | <Guest415> | Like we are talking small local things |
| 14:04 | <LouWestin> | For me I went to terminal since there’s really nothing really major that’s going to change. |
| 14:05 | <Guest415> | Terminal = no management layer? |
| 14:05 | <smallclone> | Guest415: it's worth learning how to administer a linux server yourself, if you have the time and inclination to learn |
| 14:06 | <Guest415> | I always had that, but then I quickly shy away when it gets to it |
| 14:06 | <LouWestin> | I mean there’s updates/upgrades that you have to manage, but it’s built into Linux more or less. |
| 14:06 | <Guest415> | I feel comfortable with trying stuff and making things work of course, but it is a very hard field to truly understand in my opinion. |
| 14:07 | <LouWestin> | Using the Terminal means im not tied to Cpanel or whatever. |
| 14:07 | <Guest415> | I'd rather not kid myself into believing I can administer much of anything. But I can def try and host multiple websites on one linode and maybe get ftp to work for those sites. I think I can pull that off within a few days. There is youtube and google and this irc and what not plus linode has fantastic guides |
| 14:08 | <LouWestin> | Meh, admining is easy. It’s when you break stuff... |
| 14:09 | <Guest415> | I understand what you are saying LouWestin, but I feel like I will be in over my head trying to utilize the terminal for things like iptables config and virtual servers and what not |
| 14:09 | <Guest415> | lol |
| 14:09 | <LouWestin> | Use ufw instead of managing iptables manually |
| 14:09 | <Guest415> | Yeah I feel like I will probably break stuff more often than someone with a bit of experience woluld |
| 14:09 | <Guest415> | What is ufw? |
| 14:09 | <LouWestin> | That’s what backups are for. Lol |
| 14:09 | <Guest415> | hahahaha |
| 14:09 | <LouWestin> | Uncomplicated firewall |
| 14:10 | <Guest415> | Oh cool goes in the tips folder |
| 14:10 | <Guest415> | I shall research that |
| 14:10 | <LouWestin> | It’s on Debian |
| 14:13 | <Guest415> | Oh boy |
| 14:13 | <Guest415> | That's a whole other discussion then, cause Debian over Ubunto or not lol |
| 14:13 | <Guest415> | I wonder what the most used distro is on linode for hosting wordpress sites. I would guess ubunto but heck if I know |
| 14:14 | <Guest415> | Install WordPress Using WP-CLI on Ubuntu 18.04 How to Choose a Control Panel How to Speed Up a WordPress Website Install WordPress on Ubuntu 18.04 |
| 14:15 | <Guest415> | Lots of guides for ubunto specifically for wordpress stuff as well |
| 14:15 | <Guest415> | So I think Debian is not for me? |
| 14:16 | <DrJ> | 2 minutes until every driver in the united states takes their eyes off the road at the same time to stop their phone from making a loud noise |
| 14:16 | <DrJ> | glad I'm not driving right now |
| 14:19 | <LouWestin> | Ubuntu is based on a Debian |
| 14:20 | <LouWestin> | CentOS probably has it too, I just don’t know off the top of my head. |
| 14:20 | <dwfreed> | DrJ: my phone is set to only vibrate for those alerts |
| 14:20 | <Guest415> | So Ubunot should work almost the same in that regard? |
| 14:20 | <Guest415> | DrJ is there some kind of warning system being tested nationwide? |
| 14:21 | <@scrane> | Yes. |
| 14:21 | <LouWestin> | Commands are pretty much the same. It’s really the difference in repos. And yes it’s a test |
| 14:21 | <Guest415> | Ah thanks LouWestin |
| 14:21 | <LouWestin> | There’s a Linode guide on UFW |
| 14:22 | <LouWestin> | Also the Linux pocket guide is good too for command reference |
| 14:24 | <LouWestin> | Lastly, use Linode’s backups and snapshot when making big changes. |
| 14:28 | <DrJ> | dwfreed: you can't vibrate only this alert |
| 14:30 | <DrJ> | from what I read you can't even stop it with do not disturb |
| 14:30 | <nate> | Technically you kinda can, or in my case it came over as vibration only, I had no audible on mine lol |
| 14:30 | <nate> | I just heard the cell vibrating on the laptop lid |
| 14:31 | <DrJ> | how did you stop it? |
| 14:31 | <Guest415> | He tweeted make it only vibrate @DonaldTrump most likely |
| 14:32 | <DrJ> | just imagine now if twitter was to ban trump |
| 14:32 | <nate> | DrJ: I just swiped it away? |
| 14:33 | <DrJ> | we'd be getting 45 presidential alerts forced to our phones every hour |
| 14:33 | <millisa> | Presidential Alert: Oh no she di'int! |
| 14:34 | <nate> | Thankfully as I've actually had to tell people seriously elsewhere, trump isn't likely allowed anywhere near this system so lol |
| 14:35 | <DrJ> | actually their is a law around it saying the president can't use it for personal messages |
| 14:35 | <DrJ> | only in times of peril or whatnot |
| 14:35 | <DrJ> | but still, just a joke |
| 14:35 | <DrJ> | but if he could I'm sure he would |
| 14:36 | <nate> | I mean there are multitudes of guidelines on who can use it in general, which is why I find it amusing all the people wanting to block them |
| 14:37 | <nate> | the day an actual presidential alert goes out is the day you probably don't want to be out of the loop cause it's likely gonna be WW3 :P |
| 14:37 | <DrJ> | everyone's phone goes off at 3am in the morning: welp, donald is on the toilet again |
| 14:37 | <millisa> | see hawaii. |
| 14:37 | <millisa> | excuse me. Presidential Alert: See what happened in Hawaii. |
| 14:37 | <nate> | that wasn't a presidential alert |
| 14:37 | <millisa> | Presidential Alert: It's the new cool thing |
| 14:38 | <nate> | That was a generic state-level EAS message |
| 14:38 | <millisa> | Presidential Alert: (no, but it was a similar mistake made on a wide broadcast system like it) |
| 14:38 | <Guest415> | Presidential alert: The democrats did it! Find out in the next alert, what it was, that they did... |
| 14:38 | <nate> | On the same wide broadcast system yes, but state-level EAS is a lot more loosly controlled unfortunately, mostly due to the usage of amber alerts |
| 14:38 | <nate> | And critical weather warnings, etc |
| 14:38 | <millisa> | and silver alerts |
| 14:39 | <Guest415> | What is a silver alert? |
| 14:39 | <millisa> | old people that wander off |
| 14:39 | <DrJ> | silber alerts are when adults go missing |
| 14:39 | <DrJ> | usually people with dementia |
| 14:39 | <Guest415> | Ah o.k. |
| 14:39 | <nate> | Is that actually part of the EAS system now? |
| 14:40 | <nate> | Or are they just piggy backing that off the amber alert model? Though that would probably be rough since those send a somewhat specific format for cells to identify explicitly as amber alerts |
| 14:41 | <millisa> | They have used them around here. phones, highway boards, the whole shebang. presidential alert. |
| 14:41 | <millisa> | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver_Alert |
| 14:41 | <DrJ> | nate: I don't think silver alerts are |
| 14:41 | <DrJ> | I've never had my phone go off for a silver alert |
| 14:42 | <DrJ> | amber alerts yes |
| 14:42 | <Guest415> | It's fairly easy to scale a Linod up if the smallest one isn't enough any more right? |
| 14:42 | <Guest415> | I think it was trivial |
| 14:42 | <millisa> | It is trivial, yes. |
| 14:42 | <Guest415> | good thanks |
| 14:43 | <nate> | Yeah, that's cause they're actually part of the EAS (and you can control them on your cell) |
| 14:43 | <millisa> | https://www.linode.com/docs/platform/disk-images/resizing-a-linode/ |
| 14:43 | <DrJ> | guest415: upsizing is very easy |
| 14:43 | <DrJ> | downsizing is still easy, but a little more complicated |
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| 14:44 | <Guest415> | Alright I got a new linode, go me |
| 14:44 | <Guest415> | Thanks millisa |
| 14:44 | <DrJ> | congrats |
| 14:44 | <rodolfojcj> | Hello everybody |
| 14:44 | <DrJ> | hello |
| 14:44 | <Guest415> | hello |
| 14:45 | <Guest415> | Thanks Julius |
| 14:45 | <rodolfojcj> | I'm following the guide at https://www.linode.com/docs/tools-reference/custom-kernels-distros/install-a-custom-distribution-on-a-linode/ |
| 14:45 | <rodolfojcj> | but it doesn't work for me |
| 14:45 | <rodolfojcj> | then I want to know if someone has used it with success |
| 14:45 | <DrJ> | you need to explain more |
| 14:46 | <DrJ> | "it doesn't work" tells us nothing |
| 14:57 | <rodolfojcj> | When I boot with the Installer profile the installer image doesn't boot. See https://imgur.com/a/I4vDFgG to get an idea |
| 14:59 | <smallclone> | rodolfojcj: you should maybe try glish in a different browser |
| 14:59 | <smallclone> | graphical installers are going to need it |
| 15:01 | <rodolfojcj> | Ok, good option... |
| 15:04 | <Guest415> | So I'm trying to get putty to work for me |
| 15:05 | <Guest415> | I guess you need to log in with lish at least once |
| 15:05 | <rodolfojcj> | @smallclone: good suggestion. Glish opens on Chromium, but not in Firefox |
| 15:05 | <Guest415> | Any idea what localhost username and password will be here? |
| 15:06 | <Guest415> | ssh root and so on and so forth for username? |
| 15:06 | <Guest415> | I don't want to make to many false attempts here |
| 15:06 | <Guest415> | too |
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| 15:14 | <Guest415> | O.k. that sucks |
| 15:14 | <Guest415> | I can't get into the new linode via lish via browser |
| 15:15 | <dwfreed> | DrJ: my phone only vibrated for the alert |
| 15:16 | <dwfreed> | DrJ: no sound was emitted |
| 15:16 | <Guest415> | I see localhost login: .... |
| 15:16 | <Guest415> | Anybody got an idea as to what I should enter here? |
| 15:17 | <millisa> | root and your root password? |
| 15:17 | <smallclone> | you set the root password when you create the linode |
| 15:18 | <Guest415> | I tried username@location ssh username@location with my name as shown in the linode manager and tried just my name |
| 15:18 | <Guest415> | root is a good idea |
| 15:18 | <Guest415> | haven't tried that yet |
| 15:18 | <dwfreed> | DrJ: also the UI in Android 9 suggests that you *can* opt out of presidential alerts, but in order to do so you must opt out of all alerts |
| 15:18 | <smallclone> | erm |
| 15:18 | <smallclone> | you should read through this: https://www.linode.com/docs/getting-started/ |
| 15:19 | <Guest415> | milissa you were right of course |
| 15:19 | <Guest415> | thanks |
| 15:23 | <Guest415> | Hm which brings me to putty saying error connection timed out |
| 15:23 | <smallclone> | what are you entering into putty |
| 15:23 | <Guest415> | The key that putty showed me was same as the one I saw in lish |
| 15:23 | <Guest415> | The ip address and port 22 |
| 15:24 | <smallclone> | and the root user? |
| 15:24 | <smallclone> | and password |
| 15:24 | <Guest415> | https://www.linode.com/docs/networking/ssh/ssh-connections-using-putty-on-windows/ |
| 15:24 | <Guest415> | I am trying to work along this |
| 15:25 | <Guest415> | I don't see a user and password field |
| 15:26 | <Guest415> | I should try and find that probably? Makes sense that it can't accept a connection from me unless I give it the correct credentials.... |
| 15:26 | <smallclone> | it's the same info you used in lish most likely |
| 15:26 | <smallclone> | unless you've set up key auth and ssh users |
| 15:26 | <Guest415> | yes gonna try to find out where to put that... |
| 15:26 | <Guest415> | haven't done anything yet. Just trying to get on with the getting started guide |
| 15:27 | <Guest415> | But apparently I am much more stupid than Linode's guide expected a user to be. ^^ |
| 15:27 | <smallclone> | that guide is kind of stupid for not taking the authentication mechanism into consideration at all, tbh |
| 15:28 | <smallclone> | but it's a good idea to run through the getting started and securing your server guides |
| 15:29 | <Guest415> | Nice, so I did find the right guides. |
| 15:30 | <Guest415> | There is hope after all |
| 15:30 | <Guest415> | I can put in usernames in many places within putty apparently |
| 15:30 | <Guest415> | The only place where I find username and password right next to each other is under connection - proxy |
| 15:31 | <Guest415> | I don't think I am trying to connect through a proxy here... |
| 15:31 | <millisa> | in putty, just put the ip of the linode in and connect. it'll ask for the user/pass in the putty window |
| 15:32 | <Guest415> | It times out my connection |
| 15:32 | <millisa> | what's the linode ip? |
| 15:32 | <Guest415> | 139.162.194.201 |
| 15:33 | <smallclone> | well ssh appears to be listening |
| 15:33 | <Guest415> | well that's good, it seems it booted up finde, lish worked |
| 15:33 | <millisa> | looks open to me too |
| 15:33 | <Guest415> | so it is an sue issue |
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| 15:34 | <Guest415> | ssh port 22 and my ip is all i would need i think, but maybe i am wrong... |
| 15:34 | <smallclone> | can you ping that ip address? |
| 15:34 | <Guest415> | let me try |
| 15:34 | <Guest415> | yip |
| 15:35 | <Guest415> | 4 sent 4 received pinging seems to work |
| 15:35 | <smallclone> | hm this might be easier if you just take a picture of your putty config screen thing |
| 15:35 | <millisa> | could your isp/network be blocking ssh? |
| 15:35 | <Guest415> | i highly doubt it |
| 15:36 | <LouWestin> | Is putty set to 22? |
| 15:36 | <Guest415> | y |
| 15:36 | <LouWestin> | Because there’s options to set it to telnet or other. |
| 15:36 | <Guest415> | https://imgur.com/a/m0uX9ov |
| 15:37 | <Guest415> | It is on ssh |
| 15:37 | <LouWestin> | K |
| 15:37 | <Guest415> | There is probably something obvious I am not seeing |
| 15:37 | <smallclone> | wrong IP |
| 15:37 | <smallclone> | 139.161 |
| 15:37 | <smallclone> | is what you entered |
| 15:37 | <LouWestin> | ^ |
| 15:37 | <Guest415> | y? |
| 15:38 | <Guest415> | 139.161.194.201 is what i entered |
| 15:38 | <smallclone> | the IP you gave us is 139.162.194.201 |
| 15:38 | <Guest415> | lulz |
| 15:38 | <Guest415> | now that you say that |
| 15:38 | <millisa> | Presidential Alert |
| 15:38 | <Guest415> | how can that happen copying and pasting hard lol |
| 15:38 | <Guest415> | Presidential Alert: POay attention to the numbers dude |
| 15:39 | <Guest415> | I think the democrats changed out the number after I put it in |
| 15:39 | <Guest415> | Or russians |
| 15:39 | <Guest415> | One or the others |
| 15:39 | <smallclone> | did it work with the correct IP then? |
| 15:39 | <LouWestin> | It was the Russians |
| 15:39 | <Guest415> | Yes it works |
| 15:39 | <Guest415> | My god |
| 15:39 | <Guest415> | So emberassing |
| 15:39 | <Guest415> | embarassing |
| 15:39 | <Guest415> | ? |
| 15:40 | <Guest415> | Second one looks right |
| 15:40 | <Guest415> | Embarassing |
| 15:40 | <Guest415> | If not it was the russians too |
| 15:40 | <LouWestin> | Then you confirmed the hash thing |
| 15:40 | <Guest415> | yes i confirmed that |
| 15:40 | <LouWestin> | K |
| 15:40 | <Guest415> | Thanks though LouWestin |
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| 15:41 | <LouWestin> | Run the update and upgrade commands too and reboot. |
| 15:41 | <LouWestin> | Ubuntu right? |
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| 15:42 | <linbot> | New news from community: How do you move a Authorized_keys? <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/17227> || Why is swap space configured as part of CoreOS image? <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/17226> |
| 15:50 | <Guest415> | And here is the next question....it asks me if I want to update tmp grub or leave it, because it has been locally modified |
| 15:51 | <Guest415> | I'm inclined to keep the modified version, since there must be a reason it was modified |
| 15:51 | <smallclone> | keep it |
| 15:51 | <Guest415> | The GRUB boot loader was previously installed to a disk that is no │ │ longer present, or whose unique identifier has changed for some reason. │ │ It is important to make sure that the installed GRUB core image stays in │ │ sync with GRUB modules and grub.cfg. Please check again to make sure │ │ that GRUB is written to the appropriate boot devices. |
| 15:51 | <Guest415> | hmmm |
| 15:52 | <LouWestin> | If Guest415 switch’s to the latest kernel then would that message not come up again? |
| 15:53 | <Guest415> | Welp I can only click o.k. on this prompt |
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| 15:55 | <Guest415> | https://askubuntu.com/questions/23418/what-do-i-select-for-grub-install-devices-after-an-update |
| 15:56 | <Guest415> | K found the answer to that |
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| 16:23 | <Guest415> | Thanks again for all the help guys and girls. I will finish the rest of the getting started and securing your server guides tomorrow and then hopefully get to the nitty gritty |
| 16:23 | <Guest415> | gn |
| 16:23 | <Guest415> | Presidential Alert: GN |
| 16:24 | <LouWestin> | Ok. |
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| 19:41 | <Montanacraneser> | Hello |
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| 20:16 | <Abi12> | dwfreed: https://www.usenix.org/system/files/conference/nsdi14/nsdi14-paper-jeong.pdf |
| 20:16 | <Abi12> | They point out some pretty interesting statistics in that paper. Have you heard of it? |
| 20:25 | <dwfreed> | I've heard of similar approaches, like DPDK |
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| 20:31 | <dco> | Howdy! |
| 20:33 | <dco> | Would anyone here know how a 6c 3.4GHz xeon would perform versus 6 cores out of a 16c xeon 2.1GHz cpu? |
| 20:34 | <dco> | This would be Xeon Gold 6128 vs 6130 for a large SQL database. Sadly this one has to live outside linode (although only 2ms away) due to database constraints. |
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| 20:35 | <dco> | Both the processors turbo to the same 3.7GHz. |
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| 20:36 | <dco> | I guess my concern is to know if the lower 2.1GHz base clock of 6130 is a downgrade in comparison to 3.4GHz. (anyone with experience with these would know is the turbo clock speeds are sustainable). |
| 20:42 | <dwfreed> | dco: as long as there is thermal headroom, I don't think you'll see much difference |
| 20:43 | <dwfreed> | so as long as your heatsink is properly applied, your fans are working properly, and your DC cooling is functioning properly, it should be similar |
| 20:44 | <dwfreed> | the 6130 might even perform better, due to more free cores and more L3 cache |
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| 20:46 | <dco> | If those/thermal conditions are ideal in either case, are my worries about 6130 being a downgrade in comparison to 6128 unfounded? |
| 20:46 | <dwfreed> | yes |
| 20:46 | <dco> | re: turbo clock sustenance (for at least 6 cores) |
| 20:47 | <dco> | s/sustenance/sustainability/ |
| 20:52 | <dco> | Thanks dwfreed. Sounds good.. |
| 20:53 | <dco> | There's not much price difference in 6128 vs 6130 (less than a couple of hundred bucks). Makes me wonder why the 6128 even exists if turbo clock speed can be the sustained speed (at ideal conditions).B |
| 20:53 | <dwfreed> | sometimes $200 is $200 |
| 20:54 | <dwfreed> | if you don't need the extra cores, you can spend that $200 on something else, like more RAM or more storage |
| 20:55 | <dco> | :) |
| 20:55 | <dco> | The difference is only $96 on superbiiz right now. |
| 20:56 | <dco> | Nevertheless, thanks dwfreed |
| 20:57 | <LouWestin> | Is there a benchmark site to compare? |
| 20:59 | <dco> | https://servethehome.com is pretty good.. but none of their reviews peered the SKUs I'm looking at. |
| 20:59 | <dco> | https://www.servethehome.com/intel-xeon-gold-6130-benchmarks-and-review/ |
| 20:59 | <LouWestin> | Ok. |
| 21:00 | <dco> | s/peered/paired\/compared/ |
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| 21:22 | <dco> | 6130 US$ 1,894 16c 2.1 GHz 3.7 GHz Turbo 16 MiB L2 22 MiB L3 125 W6142 US$ 2,946 16c 2.6 GHz 3.7 GHz Turbo 16 MiB L2 22 MiB L3 150 W |
| 21:22 | <dco> | Whoops. |
| 21:22 | <dco> | 6130 US$ 1,894 16c 2.1 GHz 3.7 GHz Turbo 16 MiB L2 22 MiB L3 125 W |
| 21:22 | <dco> | 6142 US$ 2,946 16c 2.6 GHz 3.7 GHz Turbo 16 MiB L2 22 MiB L3 150 W |
| 21:22 | <dco> | Intel :@ |
| 21:24 | <dco> | Just some Intel price gouging I suppose |
| 21:25 | <dwfreed> | trying to compete with EPYC in certain markets |
| 21:27 | <dwfreed> | https://ark.intel.com/compare/120492,120487 |
| 21:27 | <dwfreed> | ark is really useful |
| 21:27 | <LouWestin> | Looks like price gouging. |
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| 22:17 | <tharkun> | dwfreed: To the dns isue I mentioned the other day, your guess was insanely correct it was the ISP. I ended up pinpointing the isue to some missconfigured edge router. (or about to break down. Your guess will be more educated than mine.) Anyway thanks for the heads up. |
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| 22:42 | <Woet> | dcraig: I feel inclined to notify you I am currently residing on a boat |
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| 22:44 | <dwfreed> | bumbleVole: please fix your IRC client or disable power nap on your laptop |
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| 22:44 | -!- | mode/#linode [+o dwfreed] by dwfreed |
| 22:44 | -!- | bumbleVole is "bumbleVole" on #linode |
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| 22:44 | <@dwfreed> | bumbleVole: please fix your IRC client or disable power nap on your laptop |
| 22:44 | <@dwfreed> | ping me when you have |
| 22:45 | -!- | mode/#linode [+b *!*@ool-43522b0d.dyn.optonline.net] by dwfreed |
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| 22:45 | -!- | mode/#linode [-o dwfreed] by dwfreed |
| 22:45 | <warewolf> | this is why I have /join and /part ignored! I don't see any of the noise :) |
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| 22:45 | <dwfreed> | I cannot do that |
| 22:45 | <warewolf> | such a glorious signal to noise ratio. |
| 22:45 | <warewolf> | *: JOINS PARTS QUITS KICKS MODES NICKS |
| 22:45 | <warewolf> | oh yeah you're an oper |
| 22:46 | <rsdehart> | I do it on an offender-by-offender basis in many channels |
| 22:46 | <warewolf> | been there, done that, didn't get a t-shirt |
| 22:46 | <dwfreed> | 2018-10-04 02:44:35 -!- mode/#linode [+o dwfreed] by dwfreed |
| 22:46 | <dwfreed> | :) |
| 22:46 | <Peng_> | magic D: |
| 22:47 | <dwfreed> | god mode |
| 22:47 | <warewolf> | *** is an IRC GOD |
| 22:47 | <dwfreed> | 2018-10-04 02:44:35 [TrekWebOFTC] !weber.oftc.net dwfreed is setting God mode |
| 22:47 | <dwfreed> | 2018-10-04 02:44:35 [TrekWebOFTC] !weber.oftc.net dwfreed is using God mode: MODE #linode +o dwfreed |
| 22:47 | <dwfreed> | 2018-10-04 02:44:35 [TrekWebOFTC] !weber.oftc.net dwfreed is removing God mode |
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| 22:54 | <Woet> | dwfreed is just a disgruntled employee who, after being fired for spending too much time on the toilet, started abusing his oper powers to do a hostile take over of #linode |
| 22:54 | <Woet> | (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻ ＴＨＩＳ ＩＳ ＲＩＤＩＣＵＬＯＵＳ |
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| 22:56 | <dwfreed> | if my legs wouldn't fall asleep, I could totally work from the toilet |
| 22:59 | <LouWestin> | The problem with being on the toilet too long is, you develop hemorrhoids. |
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| 23:10 | <gparent> | You're also particularly vulnerable to crossbow fire. |
| 23:12 | <millisa> | And tyrannosaurs |
| 23:14 | <millisa> | !point dwfreed |
| 23:14 | <linbot> | millisa: Point given to dwfreed. (59) (Biggest fan: mcintosh, total: 14) |
| 23:15 | <@mcintosh> | !point dwfreed |
| 23:15 | <linbot> | mcintosh: Point given to dwfreed. (60) (Biggest fan: mcintosh, total: 15) |
| 23:15 | <@mcintosh> | damn right |
| 23:15 | <Woet> | !point dwfreed |
| 23:15 | <linbot> | Woet: Point given to dwfreed. (61) (Biggest fan: mcintosh, total: 15) |
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