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---Logopened Thu Oct 04 00:00:10 2018
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00:19<rashed>do you offer cpanel
00:19<rashed>of your vps package
00:19<linbot>Install cPanel on CentOS: Linode does not sell cPanel licenses, but it's provided free to Linode Managed customers: Or try a free panel like Webmin: Or just use the command line:
00:19<tafa2>millisa beat me to it
00:20<rashed>i need cpanel with WHM configuration 4gb ram minimum
00:20<rashed>price please
00:20<millisa>One brazilian dollars
00:20<Abi12>2 rupees.
00:20<rashed>yearly price please
00:20<millisa>Their prices are at
00:20<rashed>us $
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00:21<millisa>If you are interested in managed, you can read about it here - (though sourcing your own cpanel license is cheaper)
00:21<Abi12>lol wut
00:21<millisa>or just leave. whatever works
00:22<Abi12>That's a man who knows what he wants.
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03:06<hussein>any sales person of linode is here ?
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05:55<Arean>i have some Questions regarding Linnode
05:56<linbot>Arean: If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read
05:57<Arean>I am looking for a space to host my emails
05:57<Arean>can Linnode do this
05:58<Arean>I alreade have a domain
05:58<dwfreed>you can run a mailserver on a Linode, yes
05:59<dwfreed>but generally unless you already know how to run a mailserver or are *really* interested in learning how and dealing with spam every day, it's better to let somebody else handle it (like GApps)
05:59<Arean>I have configured Zimbra colabration suit
06:00<Arean>but i dont know the poart to host it with a domain / already avaliable domain.
06:00<dwfreed>that's one way to do it, I guess; you can run Zimbra on a Linode
06:01<Arean>ok, thats my plan
06:01<Arean>but still i need help to link the domain
06:01<Arean>for my emails
06:03<Arean>can I get help for this if I get the service
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10:35<linbot>New news from community: Failover IP questions <>
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11:35<nate>Really hate google sometimes
11:35<Abi12>nate: touche'
11:36<nate>apparently decided that email from my personal domain qualifies for auto-spam-boxing, won't tell me why, how, when, and half the time it's not sending me email from gmail users either it seems
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11:43<Sam_>Is there any testing ips
11:43<Sam_>I can test the ping time
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11:50<nate>Hm, maybe it's my DKIM. Did we reach a point where 1024-bit was considered not decent enough for DKIM or does google still accept that?
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13:08<Abi12>nate: that's probably not it. I use a 1024-bit key, and my mail goes through.
13:09<Abi12>nate: you have SPF/DKIM/DMARC/rDNS setup right?
13:09<Peng_>1024-bit RSA ;_;
13:21<nate>Abi12: DKIM apparently broke at some point and I'm having issues getting it going again, probably due to a fedora install the age of a grandmother
13:21<nate>Peng_: Yes, but to what I recall DNS had issues with the 'size' of 2048 bit ones, though I wasn't sure if that was still an issue
13:23<Peng_>If your DNS service sucks and doesn't support TXT records larger than 255 bytes.
13:24<synfinatic>so uh, does Linode use Supermicro servers?
13:25<nate>synfinatic: Wait until the dust settles first before putting on the tin-foil
13:25<synfinatic>fwiw, i used to work for a certain large company mentioned in that article. I can't confirm or deny the facts, but I definitely heard rumors internally.
13:27<nate>Of course there are going to be internal rumours with a story like this, but amazon's direct refuting of the story adds a lot of weight as well, but I am curious to see what the next month is gonna be like
13:28<synfinatic>i'm saying i heard rumors of this a year ago
13:28<synfinatic>(well over a year ago... i haven't worked there in 16mo)
13:29<synfinatic>i'm sure all the companies involved want to say "yes, we were hacked by the Chinese gov't, but everything is ok now... trust us"
13:30<Peng_>It's interesting that Apple says they threw out Supermicro for other reasons
13:30<Peng_>'This story is false but there were 2 other security incidents'
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13:33<nate>synfinatic: Generally they would stay mum rather than directly deny though
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13:38<gary>hi, guys, i want to use linode for rankerx
13:38<nate>okay, DKIM fixed, now to figure out why gmail is showing my emails aren't coming in 'secure' at all :|
13:38<gary>which package should i use?
13:39<Peng_>what's rankerx?
13:39<millisa>and seo thing
13:39<millisa>er, an
13:39<Peng_>Is it legal and/or useful?
13:40<millisa>probably, no
13:40<millisa>er, that was probably / no
13:40<nate>It's legal as far as I recall, as far as useful goes, about as useful as any other "SEO"
13:40<nate>*thing these days
13:41<millisa>gary: if it's legal, and you can set it up on linux, any of the linodes would probably work. they are easy to resize if you find you need more resources
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13:48<Peng_>Interesting comment:
13:50<gary>thx guys. i will check this out
13:51<gary>why you think this is not useful? ha. just wondering. new to SEO
13:51<millisa>it's kind of a scummy way to do it.
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13:52<millisa>if you were running a site, would you want someone using automated methods to come in, create accounts, just for the purpose of linking back to their site (that is usually unrelated) in comments sections?
13:52<LouWestin>I once tried to convince a client that she didn’t three websites and what millisa said. She didn’t listen.
13:53<LouWestin>I asked her, are you getting calls for golf lessons? Her: No. me: Then your plan isn’t working.
13:55<LouWestin>Correction: A potential client
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14:00<LouWestin>I’d reckon Gary didn’t like our advice.
14:14<linbot>New news from kernels: 4.18.8-x86-linode137 <>
14:18<Peng_>I reckon you should repeat your advice several times using different nicks
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14:21<LouWestin>I could face to face conversations with common sense and fancy charts and there are those who will still throw their money away.
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14:37<nate>There's no kind of port 25 filtering going on at fremont these days are there?
14:38<nate>hm, looks to be okay on IPv4 but not IPv6
14:39<dwfreed>Linode doesn't do any filtering
14:39<nate>I know linode didn't, wasn't sure if dramatics at the DC though maybe :P
14:39<dwfreed>Linode doesn't use DC transport anymore
14:40<dwfreed>(that might not be entirely true for Fremont, since HE is a great transit provider, but HE doesn't filter anything on their transit anyway)
14:42<dwfreed>nate: tcptraceroute is your friend
14:43<dwfreed>you could also use mtr for this purpose, but it's not very nice to the receiving side, and you don't care about proper latency readings anyway
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14:46<nate>Oh, wonder if it's because the other linode I'm testing from is within the same DC, might be not routing the IPv6 right. I thought I opened a different DC
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14:47<dwfreed>are you using routed IPv6 blocks for your mailserver or your testing server?
14:54<linbot>New news from kernels: Latest 32 bit (4.18.8-x86-linode137) <> || Latest 64 bit (4.18.8-x86_64-linode117) <>
14:54<nate>dwfreed: Nothing routed, just a plain bind on the public IPv6
14:55<dwfreed>so then routing has nothing to do with it
14:55<dwfreed>if it's in the same DC
14:55<nate>dwfreed: Well I mean the routing -in- the DC, going from a public IPv6 to another public IPv6 within the same center, that's the only thing I can think would be causing complete drops the moment it leaves the box
14:56<dwfreed>there is no routing involved
14:56<dwfreed>both Linodes are on the same layer 2 network
15:00<nate>I'm just saying what the traceroute is implying, what they are is not what the result reflects, something is dropping it literally right out of my linode at the same DC :P
15:00<nate>My other-location linodes can reach it fine though
15:01<dwfreed>did the Linode you're testing from ever have a ToS violation ticket?
15:01<dwfreed>also, tcpdump for fun and profit
15:01<nate>Not unless they forgot to notify me and only took action on IPv6 lol
15:05<nate>double checked iptables even just to be sure all output on IPv6 was okay
15:05<nate>that said admittedly not sure what I'm supposed to see from tcpdump on outbound traffic being dropped right at sender
15:08<@mcintosh>do you have a ticket open?
15:09<dwfreed>tcpdump from the receiver
15:13<nate>dwfreed: I'll give that a shot but I feel like tcptrace would have at least shown it 'hit' the box rather than drop as if it can't see the route
15:14<nate>mcintosh: Neg, until I'm sure it's not a local thing I won't generally do that
15:14<nate>I might gripe it feels DC-related but I'll still test for benefit of doubt :P
15:17<nate>and somehow in the middle of all this shit I broke starttls on my mail setup lol, I hate today
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15:27<nate>God damnit gmail give me a god damned grey padlock already
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16:04<LouWestin>Neko_: Hi
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16:16<linbot>New news from community: Are the private IPs reachable from linodes of other customers, or only mine? <>
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16:31<dzho>how are things shaping up, Morph?
16:32<dzho>worth the joke tho
16:32<relidy>!point dzho
16:32<linbot>relidy: Point given to dzho. (7)
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16:41<@mcintosh>!point dzho
16:41<linbot>mcintosh: Point given to dzho. (8)
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19:49<LouWestin>Is logcheck commonly used for monitoring?
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20:31<aamarques>need help
20:31<linbot>If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read
20:31<aamarques>cant login im my account
20:31<LouWestin>Wrong password?
20:32<aamarques>pass is ok
20:32<relidy>aamarques: You'll probably have to email They aren't going to be able to help you here in a public IRC channel.
20:32<aamarques>try to reset
20:32<dwfreed>tried the reset password route anyway?
20:32<aamarques>i did
20:32<dwfreed>did you get an email?
20:32<LouWestin>What relidy said
20:32<aamarques>just block my account
20:32<aamarques>i think
20:33<dwfreed>did you check spam?
20:34<Cromulent>great - just had an email from Namecheap saying that ICANN are going to change the root key and that DNSSEC might be affected - I hope it doesn't bring down all of my DNSSEC enabled domains because of the change
20:36<Peng_>The root key rollover is about resolvers. Nearly every part of the Namecheap email is wrong.
20:37<Cromulent>ah good
20:37<Cromulent>I was worried for a bit
20:37<Peng_>Validating resolvers will either fail completely and be unable to resolve *anything*, or (if configured correctly) continue working fine.
20:37<Peng_>Whether your domains are signed or not isn't really relevant.
20:37<Cromulent>cool - thanks for the info
20:38<Peng_>It's an important thing that will result in disruption for people, but I'm pretty sure literally every sentence in the email has an error. :X
20:38<Peng_>I didn't get one. :(
20:39<Cromulent>it was most likely me misinterpreting the email rather than a problem on Namecheaps side
20:41<dwfreed>no, it wouldn't suprise me if namecheap got the email wrong
20:41<dwfreed>because they get dnssec wrong anyway
20:43<LouWestin>Does linode use dnssec for their NS or is it even important?
20:43<Peng_>I've seen a copy of the email. It is super wrong.
20:44<Peng_>LouWestin: Linode's resolvers validate. Linode's authoritative DNS service will host signed secondary zones. isn't signed.
20:44<Peng_>The importance of DNSSEC is hotly debated :D
20:45<LouWestin>Peng_: Thanks. That’s why I love this channel!
20:48<LouWestin>I’m not going to worry about it then.
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21:17<Peng_>!dns6 trustanchor.unbound txt ch
21:17<linbot>Peng_: . 19036 20326
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