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| 00:35 | <linbot> | New news from community: Geolocation block using UFW <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/17287> |
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| 08:59 | <io____[m]> | hallo I ve updated Longview but I still get "An update for the Longview agent is available. Please update your installation of Longview. " |
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| 09:02 | <Cromulent> | oh I like the new cloud manager - first time I've looked at it |
| 09:06 | <guzzlefry> | Is it build on top of some massive client-side framework? Those don't work so well over my slow connection. |
| 09:06 | <Cromulent> | no idea |
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| 10:57 | <rnowak> | that does look much nicer, thumbs up |
| 10:58 | <@mcintosh> | rnowak: <3 |
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| 11:18 | <@jackley> | guzzlefry: it's built on react. you can check out the repo here https://github.com/linode/manager |
| 11:20 | <guzzlefry> | will do, thanks |
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| 11:53 | <Steven_> | Hi good day |
| 11:53 | <Steven_> | I have a question |
| 11:56 | <Steven_> | currently a companion has its Linode 4GB hosting |
| 11:56 | <Steven_> | If you want to increase the Linode 16GB, would there be any problems with the applications that are already working? |
| 11:57 | <LouWestin> | You’re going to have some downtime |
| 11:57 | <DrJ> | Steven_: should be no problem, but their will be some downtime. Probably about 10-20 minutes |
| 11:58 | <DrJ> | however, they should enable linode backups, if not already, and take a snapshot before they do |
| 11:58 | <DrJ> | if they don't have linode backups enabled they can then turn it back off after they determine the migration to be successful |
| 11:58 | <LouWestin> | You’ll want to expand the disk size too while it’s off. |
| 11:59 | <Steven_> | Would not have to reconfigure applications that are already working? |
| 12:00 | <LouWestin> | No. At least you shouldn’t |
| 12:00 | <LouWestin> | Like DrJ says, better run a snapshot before upgrading. |
| 12:01 | <Steven_> | another query, what would happen if after about 3 months of Linode 16GB pass to Linode 8GB? |
| 12:02 | <LouWestin> | You want to downgrade? |
| 12:02 | <LouWestin> | It should migrate fine, but that’s going depend on how much disk space you have. |
| 12:03 | <Steven_> | Currently we have Linode 4GB, we want to increase a 16GB Linode for 3 months and then have Linode 8GB |
| 12:03 | <LouWestin> | I’d just go to a 8GB. |
| 12:03 | <Steven_> | Is this possible? |
| 12:05 | <LouWestin> | Downsizing is really only an issue with disk space since you’re shrinking down. |
| 12:05 | <LouWestin> | If you’re moving up to a 16 and back down to 8. Why not just stick to 8GB? |
| 12:06 | <LouWestin> | Of course if you want to ensure that you’re not going to have issues, then you could clone the server, and upgrade the clone. |
| 12:07 | <Steven_> | But as long as I do not exceed the capacity of the Linode 8GB disc, there would be no problem true? |
| 12:07 | <relidy> | Steven_: Correct |
| 12:09 | <Steven_> | One last query, if I make these changes. with whom should I communicate? |
| 12:10 | <relidy> | You can manage that all yourself. |
| 12:10 | <Steven_> | And the payments are adjusted automatically? |
| 12:12 | <relidy> | Yep |
| 12:14 | <Steven_> | ok thanks for the estimated information |
| 12:34 | <Woet> | Steven_: you need to make backups and do the upgrade with a sysadmin available |
| 12:34 | <Woet> | things could break. |
| 12:39 | <Steven_> | Could they break? |
| 12:40 | <Steven_> | but if backup copies are enabled and increase of memory and disk with the administrator Should not you have a problem? |
| 12:41 | <relidy> | Steven_: I think Woet's trying to make the point that things can break at any time, for any reason. Tested backups are your friend. There are no specific concerns with your migration/resize plan, however. |
| 12:42 | <Woet> | Steven_: if anything, it involves a reboot. reboots can always break things. |
| 12:42 | <relidy> | Indeed. |
| 12:42 | <Woet> | especially if you don't do them regularly. |
| 12:43 | <Steven_> | I must enable the backup and Linode does the backup automatically right? |
| 12:44 | <Woet> | https://linode.com/docs/platform/disk-images/linode-backup-service/ |
| 12:44 | <Woet> | but again, have a sysadmin available. don't just upgrade and then panic if things break. |
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| 12:45 | <LouWestin> | You should have backups enabled anyway. |
| 12:46 | <LouWestin> | Backup, clone, upgrade clone, test upgraded clone, and see how things workout. |
| 12:50 | <Steven_> | Ok thanks for the information If I do not have backup copies enabled How long would it be advisable to be able to do the capacity increase? |
| 12:53 | <LouWestin> | Just switch on backups and create a snapshot. |
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| 13:16 | <Cromulent> | is anyone getting a lot of inbound IPv6 traffic from the private network in London? |
| 13:16 | <Cromulent> | wondering if it is something I should be concerned about |
| 13:17 | <Woet> | you shouldn't be concerned. |
| 13:18 | <frailtyy> | hack the ip and find out what it is |
| 13:22 | <dwfreed> | Cromulent: tcpdump is your friend |
| 13:22 | <Cromulent> | I'll hunt around with it - thanks |
| 13:35 | <LouWestin> | I need to add that to my servers. |
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| 14:50 | <linbot> | New news from status: Scheduled Network Maintenance - Newark <https://status.linode.com/incidents/p2855wjsxfyg> |
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| 15:33 | <SToP_GAP> | Hi. Upon updating grub under Ubuntu 18.04 and choosing to keep the locally installed configuration, I then get a Configuring grub-pc dialogue box which says "The GRUB boot loader was previously installed to a disk that is no longer present..., or whose unique identifier has changed for some reason." and then /dev/sda, sdb and sda again. When I select the first sda, it proceeds but then I get a bunch of other errors including: |
| 15:33 | <SToP_GAP> | "grub-install: warning: File system `ext2' doesn't support embedding." |
| 15:34 | <SToP_GAP> | Then cryptsetup starts reporting : cryptsetup: WARNING: failed to detect canonical device of /dev/sda cryptsetup: WARNING: could not determine root device from /etc/fstab |
| 15:34 | <SToP_GAP> | Can anyone assist, I'm not sure what's going on here. |
| 15:47 | <@scrane> | The cryptsetup warning you can ignore. You get that because the drives are designated by /dev/sd* instead of UUID |
| 15:50 | <SToP_GAP> | OK, I'm not actually using encryption on drives. So why isn't grub finding the drive? Has something messed up the UUIDs or something? |
| 15:50 | <SToP_GAP> | (thanks, by the way!) |
| 15:51 | <LouWestin> | Just a shot in the dark, but maybe try switching to the latest 64 bit kernel and reboot |
| 15:51 | <@scrane> | It's not finding the drives because we don't rely on UUIDs |
| 15:52 | <SToP_GAP> | So if I select the first SDA it should be OK then, I presume? |
| 15:52 | <@scrane> | Pretty much. Are you usuing the Linode Kernel or the distribution-supplied kernel via GRUB2? |
| 15:53 | <@scrane> | the cryptsetup thing you can ignore entirely. |
| 15:54 | <SToP_GAP> | I just built this server from a linode 18.04 image and performed a full apt upgrade... is that potentially changing the kernel? I think I saw kernel whizzing by in the list of things it updated... |
| 15:55 | <@scrane> | The apt upgrade won't change the kernel. I believe by default the 18.04 image uses GRUB2 |
| 15:56 | <SToP_GAP> | Yes I think so. In which case, it should be the default Linode Kernel, yes |
| 15:57 | <@scrane> | Sorry, I misspoke. I mean the apt upgrade will upgrade the kernel to the latest distribution-supplied one if you are using GRUB2. Otherwise, it won't upgrade the kernel if you are using one of the Linode-supplied kernels. |
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| 15:57 | <SToP_GAP> | I invert my statement then. Should I switch back then? |
| 15:58 | <@scrane> | Nah. As I said, the warning from cryptsetup is just a warning and so long as you are not encrypting anything you can ignore it. |
| 15:58 | <@scrane> | It won't hurt or impact anything |
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| 15:59 | <@scrane> | change "encrypting anything" to "encrypting the disk" |
| 15:59 | <SToP_GAP> | Great, many thanks - I was struggling to find a good answer via google! Cheers :) |
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| 16:00 | <@scrane> | Not a problem! Have a great day! |
| 16:00 | <SToP_GAP> | You too. Bye |
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| 16:04 | <@cparsons> | Hey everyone! We are working on a Linode Discord channel to increase community engagement. If there is anyone here that would like to participate, feel free to PM me |
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| 16:17 | <LouWestin> | cparsons: Sure. |
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| 16:29 | <dwfreed> | cparsons: what's wrong with IRC |
| 16:33 | <millisa> | not enough discussion of linoder's mom's proclivities |
| 16:33 | <@cparsons> | dwfreed not a thing. We are not moving away from IRC. Only opening up additional community touch points. |
| 16:35 | <dwfreed> | you say that, and then 6 months from now the IRC channel will be closed down because of "lack of use" |
| 16:36 | <dwfreed> | that's just what happens when people "add" chat services |
| 16:37 | <relidy> | Unless it's bridged with the other service(s), then things just get weird. |
| 16:38 | <dwfreed> | bridging doesn't always work well, because irc is lacking certain fancy features |
| 16:38 | <relidy> | Mhmm |
| 16:38 | <dwfreed> | message edits, reactions, native emoji support |
| 16:41 | <relidy> | Honestly, go where the people are. If it means that this channel eventually goes away because the other chat service is crazy popular, so be it. I'll always have a soft spot in my heart for IRC. |
| 16:42 | <millisa> | ln -sn ./IRC /myheart/spot |
| 16:44 | <LouWestin> | Personally I don’t like Discord as much and its possible that they’ll start charging businesses for commercial use. But I’ll offer my help for linode |
| 16:44 | <dwfreed> | in the hierarchy, it's IRC > Discord >>>>>>>> Slack |
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| 16:45 | <relidy> | Not a fan of Slack, eh dwfreed? |
| 16:45 | <dwfreed> | no |
| 16:45 | <relidy> | I can appreciate the simplicity of that answer :) |
| 16:46 | <LouWestin> | I’m only on Discord because of my kids really. |
| 16:47 | <LouWestin> | There’s a lot of privacy settings that I needed to go through and turn off. That’s another reason I don’t like it. |
| 16:48 | <grawity> | I kind of find it ironic that everyone's moving to Discord from what once was the "Eris-free network" |
| 16:50 | <LouWestin> | I don’t think Discord will remain free. If it does, then they’re selling information or something |
| 16:51 | <LouWestin> | Or it’s going to be ad hell. |
| 16:51 | <grawity> | um, they've been selling Discord Plus subscriptions (err, "Discord Nitro") for quite a while now |
| 16:51 | <LouWestin> | Ah... ok |
| 16:52 | <grawity> | besides, how does OFTC remain free? |
| 16:52 | <LouWestin> | I’m not well versed with it |
| 16:52 | <LouWestin> | Donations? |
| 16:53 | <LouWestin> | Server sponsors I believe |
| 16:58 | <dwfreed> | OFTC has a lot of server sponsors |
| 16:58 | <dwfreed> | there are 5 Linodes, for example |
| 16:58 | <dwfreed> | and only one of them is a hub |
| 17:00 | <LouWestin> | I’ve been wondering, what would be the minimum requirements for a server donation? |
| 17:04 | <dwfreed> | not much, though we don't really need anything right now |
| 17:04 | <@mcintosh> | this channel isn't going anywhere |
| 17:05 | <millisa> | not until we buckle up and be quiet back there? Dont make him turn this channel around. |
| 17:05 | <LouWestin> | dwfreed: k |
| 17:05 | <@mcintosh> | !point millisa |
| 17:05 | <linbot> | mcintosh: Point given to millisa. (71) (Biggest fan: relidy, total: 17) |
| 17:05 | <dwfreed> | !point millisa |
| 17:05 | <linbot> | dwfreed: Point given to millisa. (72) (Biggest fan: relidy, total: 17) |
| 17:15 | <relidy> | !leaderboard |
| 17:15 | <linbot> | relidy: 1. mcintosh (82) 2. eugene (72) 3. millisa (72) 4. dwfreed (65) 5. peng (27) |
| 17:16 | <Woet> | where am I |
| 17:16 | <Woet> | also, is Eugene dead? |
| 17:16 | <Woet> | he hasn't been linodin' for 1 month, 13 days, 13 hours, 54 minutes, 29 seconds. |
| 17:20 | <LouWestin> | And counting |
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| 19:44 | <cusanet> | Hi.. |
| 19:45 | <cusanet> | Does linote cap network speeds by plan? |
| 19:47 | <LouWestin> | The only upload speed limits are listed by each plan |
| 19:48 | <cusanet> | You mean -> Nanode 1GB 1 GB 1 Core 25 GB SSD 1 TB 40 Gbps 1000 Mbps --- 1000 Mbits? |
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| 19:58 | <LouWestin> | That's it! Next time don't leave so fast! |
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| 20:10 | <frailtyy> | LouWestin: You're doing gods work but they don't want the help |
| 20:10 | <frailtyy> | !point LouWestin |
| 20:10 | <linbot> | frailtyy: Point given to louwestin. (4) |
| 20:10 | <frailtyy> | since they wont |
| 20:10 | <LouWestin> | Lol |
| 20:10 | <LouWestin> | thanks |
| 20:10 | <LouWestin> | It happens a few times. lol |
| 20:41 | <Abi12> | LouWestin: lol'd |
| 20:41 | <Abi12> | More than a few times m8. |
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| 21:07 | <LouWestin> | Abi12: Ok I'm being modest. lol |
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