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#linode IRC Logs for 2018-12-20

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00:18<dcraig>linode is the true story of seven sysadmins
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00:18<dcraig>picked to live in a house, work together, and have their lives taped
00:19<dcraig>to find out what happens when people stop being polite
00:19<dcraig>and start getting real
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00:32<zifnab>they don't pay enough for them to get their own apartments anyways :O
00:32<zifnab>oh wait, am i allowed to say that
00:32<zifnab>i think i am
00:33<@mcintosh>weird, i seem to be sitting here my own apartment
00:33<@mcintosh>but what do I know? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
00:34<@mcintosh>here in my own, even
00:34<zifnab>huh
00:34<zifnab>maybe things have changed in however many years its been since i went digging and asking people things
00:35<zifnab>glassdoor still says "lol"
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00:46<dwfreed>I mean, I had my own apartment when I was working there
00:47<dwfreed>but there's a huge cost of living difference between Galloway and Philly too
01:21<zifnab>i make fun of these things, yet i know people who work in sf and rent a closet for more than my tiny apartment
01:24<dwfreed>SF rent is *expensive*
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02:26<Cusomer2018>hi @Linode - do you guys offer WHM and cPanel license in your Linode 2GB VPS package ?
02:27<Cusomer2018>I am new to VPS hosting; comparing providers and value
02:28<grawity>in general, Linode is an unmanaged VPS provider – WHM/cPanel are a bit out of scope
02:29<Cusomer2018>oh ok... thank you!
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02:39<Cusomer2018>I am not so expert in VPS hosting so was hoping for a bit of expert help in setup and security .... and once I install WordPress and other plugins, may be just a bit of admin support when I get stuck
02:40<Cusomer2018>how do you guys suggest I get manage costs well ? its paid out of pocket for a not-for-profit project
02:40<Cusomer2018>in a 3rd world country
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03:49<Cromulent>wow the ubuntu mirrors are slow today
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05:14<clipvui2512>hi
05:15<clipvui2512>I need re-open VPS
05:15<clipvui2512>any help ?
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07:39<linbot>New news from community: Update Credit Card, but can't make a payment <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/17483>
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08:40<Cromulent>hopefully this isn't against the rules but does anyone here offer a service to help get a blog approved for google adsense? I've been rejected and I'm not sure why
08:41<LouWestin>Google didn’t specify why you were rejected?
08:43<Cromulent>nope
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08:47<Cromulent>I think it might be because of GDPR though or cookies
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09:13<LouWestin>According to what I read (I’m not an Adsense expert) they’re really really strict on approving blogs. So yeah it could be GDPR or something of that kind.
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09:26<Cromulent>hmm that is a shame
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10:19<linbot>New news from community: Moving IP during emergency maintenance <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/17484>
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10:48<U_>Hi
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10:48<U_>I want to make sure this code will work
10:48<U_>for $50 credit
10:48<U_>BOOTSTRAPPEDFM
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10:50<linbot>New news from community: PHP unable to fully use CPU cores <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/17485>
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11:14<DrJ>I think that user will be disappointed because that code appears to be from 2014
11:14<Abi12>People really give PHP a bad name.
11:16<Abi12>The OP doesn't even understand what he's asking of. :p
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11:27<LouWestin>A $50 dollar credit?
11:29<@mcintosh>that's what they said
11:48<LouWestin>Hmm... sounds phishy to me.
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12:06<aman>hello sir
12:07<aman>please contact with me
12:07<aman>i need a help
12:11<LouWestin>With?
12:11<aman>hello
12:11<aman>LouWestin
12:12<aman>can you help me about linode problem
12:12<aman>i want to setup cron job in linode c-penal
12:12<LouWestin>You need to be more specific about what it is you need help with.
12:13<aman>so i have no idea about it
12:13<aman>how to do i start
12:13<aman>please help me
12:13<relidy>https://www.linode.com/docs/getting-started/
12:13<LouWestin>I’m not familiar with CPanel cron jobs.
12:14<LouWestin>They probably have documents on it though
12:14<aman>i also read all document
12:14<relidy>Assuming it's actually cPanel. Are you talking about the Linode Manager, aman?
12:15<aman>yes
12:15<aman> please connect with me
12:15<LouWestin>Linode manger or CPanel?
12:16<aman>i want to know about Cpanel cronjob
12:16<LouWestin>I’d read up on CPanel
12:18<aman>so i want to etup conob on my linode c panel
12:19<aman>can you please help me to integrate his
12:19<aman>There?
12:20<aman>hello...??
12:21<LouWestin>https://confluence1.cpanel.net/plugins/servlet/mobile?contentId=17174344#content/view/17183363
12:21<LouWestin>There’s information on CPanel.net
12:24<aman>r u talking about linode c-penal
12:24<aman>..
12:24<aman>??
12:24<LouWestin>CPanel.net
12:25<relidy>Linode doesn't directly use cPanel. The Linode Manager (https://manager.linode.com or https://cloud.linode.com) is where you purchase and manage your servers. It does not manage cron jobs
12:27<aman>ok i check
12:28<LouWestin>If we’re talking about Linode manger, then that’s a different story.
12:28<aman>ok
12:29<aman>LouWestin actually i want to implement cronjob
12:30<aman>and i follow your link
12:30<aman>but i did not cronjob option
12:31<aman>get'
12:32<aman>if i doen't have cronjob option on my c panel(linode), so what i need to do to get this
12:32<aman>and use this
12:32<aman>?
12:34<LouWestin>Are you talking about CPanel.net? The software you pay for?
12:34<LouWestin>Or Linode manager?
12:34<aman>yes my cpenal is linode manages
12:35<aman>manager*
12:35<LouWestin>Linode manger doesn’t have cron jobs
12:36<LouWestin>You’d have to set it up in the terminal.
12:36<aman>ok give me link
12:36<aman>about full process
12:37<aman>please
12:37<aman>for it
12:37<LouWestin>Here’s one link. https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/how-do-i-add-jobs-to-cron-under-linux-or-unix-oses/
12:38<aman>ok thanks
12:39<LouWestin>You’re welcome
12:39<relidy>!point LouWestin
12:39<linbot>relidy: Point given to louwestin. (6)
12:40<LouWestin>Yay! lol
12:41<aman>hahahahha
12:41<aman>by the way
12:42<aman>u r from where..??
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12:57<Karrde>Null Island
13:14<LouWestin>Mars because that’s where men come from.
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16:49<alexf>That crontab link is stale for OS's using systemD, unless you install one of the crontab adaptability packages, which I never had much luck with.
16:50<tmberg>systemd-- :(
16:50<dwfreed>I mean, you can still use cron on systemd systems
16:50<dwfreed>there are downsides to using systemd timers
16:50<dwfreed>and every distro still ships with crond, even the systemd ones
16:50<LouWestin>Did Debian switch over to systemd or away from it?
16:51<dwfreed>they use systemd for init
16:51<dwfreed>by default, anyway
16:51<alexf>LWN had a story a few weeks back that recapped a discussion on the Debian mailing lists about getting the Devuan maintainers back into maintianing sysv on the Debian upstreams, which may lead to better non-systemd support for Debian in the future
16:51<alexf>but yea, systemD is the default for Deb
16:52<tmberg>But you can remove most of it. Luckily!
16:52<LouWestin>Ok somewhere, sometime I had read about it. Maybe it’s what alexf mentioned.
16:52<tmberg>alexf: Oh? I have missed that.
16:54<LouWestin>I don’t really use cron jobs so I’m glad people are mentioning downsides/issues.
16:55<tmberg>I have is disabled. :)
16:55<alexf>You _can_ but i don't suggest it unless you know what you're doing.
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16:57<tmberg>alexf: Why? http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/How_to_remove_systemd_from_a_Debian_jessie/sid_installation
16:59<dwfreed>because sysvinit support in upstream debian has died, and stuff can easily be broken and you need to know how to handle it
17:00<dwfreed>also all debian documentation tells you how to do it with systemd
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17:00<dwfreed>so if you need docs, you're going to be lost
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17:03<tmberg>dwfreed: Nah. Sysv still gets updated. Havent had any problems. And it was a long time ago i removed systemd now. ( Well. Some of it is still there. )
17:03<dwfreed>I mean package maintainers maintaining the sysvinit support in their packages
17:04<tmberg>Ah.
17:05<dwfreed>sure, most of it doesn't need touching, but some stuff can
17:05<dwfreed>it's not for the faint of heart
17:06<dwfreed>as much as I dislike systemd, I'd rather deal with it on the few debian systems I have access to than try to rip it out
17:06<dwfreed>and I'm intimately familiar with init systems
17:07<tmberg>On running boxes in production. I can understand. You dont want to "touch" it.
17:07<tmberg>Oh.
17:08<tmberg>Or: https://devuan.org/
17:08<tmberg>*Oh?
17:09<dwfreed>the system I'm on now I recently deployed; it's debian partly because I'm being lazy; I still left systemd installed
17:09<dwfreed>and basic aspects of systemd, not including the journal, really aren't that bad
17:09<tmberg>dwfreed: Oooh. You were the guy that helped me with ipv6.
17:09<dwfreed>yep, same guy
17:10*tmberg gives dwfreed a big hug.
17:10<dwfreed>my biggest annoyance is the need for the --user flag to systemctl when managing the user instance, rather than just including that in the system instance data
17:10<tmberg>dwfreed: Its like a big uncontrollable blob.
17:11<dwfreed>basic system service stuff is fine
17:11<dwfreed>though @ units are a bit weird
17:11<csnxs>systemd has a decent init system, it's everything else i hate
17:11<tmberg>dwfreed: Poettering dont give a shit what other people say.
17:12<tmberg>dwfreed: Oh. Well. I could go on. But nvm. :)
17:12<dwfreed>yes, his attitude and unwillingness to consider others' usecases really annoys me
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17:45<hodlon>I'm setting up a cluster of IPFS nodes and would like to have them geographically separated from each other. Should I create another linode to do this, or can I accomplish this simply by creating a new volume?
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19:36<LouWestin>Pong
19:39<@mcintosh>pang
19:41<LouWestin>Tang?
19:42<@mcintosh>tang?
19:42<@mcintosh>who needs tang when you have juice!
19:46<LouWestin>Tang was the great thing of the 80’s. lol
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19:48<nyancat_>you can still get it here and it's the greatest shit since when i got up this morning
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19:50<LouWestin>I haven’t seen it in years
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23:23<Abi12>my socks proxy just dies after 1TB transfer
23:24<Abi12>weird stuff.
23:24<Abi12>'dies' = connections start dropping
23:25<LouWestin>Is it a home based proxy or Linode?
23:25<Abi12>linode ofcourse
23:26<LouWestin>ok, that is weird
23:26<Abi12>I think it's a rogue process causing it.
23:26<Abi12>ahh hacked together discord client running through proxychains
23:28<Abi12>The program crashes after being idle for awhile, and spams the proxy with requests to the discord gateway
23:28<Abi12>I'm just guessing :p. A restart fixed it.
23:28<LouWestin>Sometimes a reboot is all that's needed.
23:30<Abi12>A reboot can fuck shit up too.
23:30<LouWestin>true. lol
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23:31<Abi12>ahhh and bumblevole is right on time..
23:32<LouWestin>oh lawd...
23:32<LouWestin>not that again
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23:32<Abi12>His macbook needs beauty sleep.
23:33<LouWestin>that reminds me
23:33<LouWestin>when my wife ask's why she's so tired, I tell her its probably from carrying around all that beauty.
23:36<Abi12>That's smoothe.
23:36<Abi12>#foreveraloneabi
23:37<LouWestin>I've come up with the most cheesiest lines possible.
23:37<LouWestin>lol
23:37<LouWestin>I 've had times where she just looked at me and laughed out of shock. lol
23:37<LouWestin>all in good fun
23:38<Abi12>Yeah. Noone flirts like that anymore. Atleast not seriously.
23:38<Abi12>Well I guess being cheesy is a way of flirting.
23:40<LouWestin>I don't recommend my lines in all cases, but rather use careful discretion. lol
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