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00:02<linbot>New news from community: Get free promo internet with data codes <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/17486>
00:22<linbot>New news from community: 504 Timeout while reading response from Server <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/17487>
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01:32<linbot>New news from community: Can i use japan linode in China? <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/17488>
01:42<linbot>New news from community: Can not verify visa card. <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/17489>
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09:03<zimk>hi is their no affalite option?
09:03<zimk>only Referral?
09:10<@mcintosh>that's correct
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10:04<linbot>New news from community: Installing Longview on Arch Linux <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/17490>
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11:26<arby>The very popular php filesystem abstraction layer, "Flysystem" (https://flysystem.thephpleague.com/docs/sponsors/) provides adapters for Azure, AWS, DigitalOcean, Dropbox, Rackspace + others. But, no trace of Linode -- there, or anywhere I've found online so far.
11:26<arby>Anyone know if there's an existing, or in the works, adapter 'out there' with equivalent functionality for @Linode services?
12:00<@marques>arby: would the sftp support work your use? https://flysystem.thephpleague.com/docs/adapter/sftp/ give your app a key and authorize it on for a linode ssh account with only sftp/scp (a restricted shell called scponly exists and has docs on this).
12:02<@marques>another option would be to run https://github.com/minio/minio and use the AwsS3Adapater to connect to your private object store https://flysystem.thephpleague.com/docs/adapter/aws-s3/#compatible-storage-protocols
12:07<arby>@marques Hi. It's not a question of how to do it otherwise -- many paths to that mountain. Simply one of, "everybody else" has an 'official' adapter there -- what about Linode?
12:07<@marques>those adapters interface to object storage services, Linode doesn't offer one (yet)
12:08<@mcintosh>yet ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
12:08<arby>Right -- hence my " ... or in the works ... equivalent functionality ...". Ok, I'll bank on 'yet' for now.
12:09<@marques>bank of @mcintosh's "yet", which was much more suggestive than mine.
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12:09<arby>@mcintosh's yet is creepy. Too lifelike. Looks like my brother in law.
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12:10<@marques>but has your brother in law ever steered you wrong? mmm, maybe don't answer that.
12:11<arby>No, not from SingSing he hasn't
12:11<@marques>secure storage.. that's the goal.
12:12<arby>Anything that makes AWS & DO go away, is worth waiting for!
12:14<linbot>New news from community: How do I enable nested virtualization for my Linode? <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/17491>
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12:45<linbot>New news from community: Office 365 DKIM CNAME and Linode DNS Manager <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/17492>
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14:07<jackhill>In the cloud.linode.com dashboard, when creating a new linode from a image I created, it tells me "Image is not valid". Is there a way to see what is wrong with my image?
14:12<jackhill>oh, it looks like I was just too fast with a newly created image :)
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16:55<linbot>New news from community: Get started with Linode? <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/17493>
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20:56<linbot>New news from community: China support <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/17494>
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21:09<SleePy>Why can't I delete a disk that isn't mounted from manager? Tells me I have to power off the node, but its not mounted
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21:12<dwfreed>RIP
21:13<LouWestin>That’s the breaks
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21:15<dwfreed>SleePy: the answer is that the host has no idea whether the disk is mounted or not; all it knows is that the disk is attached to the VM
21:18<SleePy>Surprised it can't see if the disk is active or not. Don't think there is a way from the host side to eject a "physical" disk
21:20<dwfreed>I mean, qemu can be told to remove the disk, but there's no mechanism for the guest to tell qemu the disk is in use and that it shouldn't be removed
21:20<dwfreed>(akin to locking the cd tray on cd drives)
21:20<LouWestin>dwfreed: is that for security reasons?
21:21<dwfreed>I think it just wasn't implemented, because there's no such mechanism for real disks either
21:22<SleePy>Huh. We use hyperv at work, as long as I offline the disk, I can eject any scsi based vhd no issue.
21:22<LouWestin>Ok. I was thinking along the lines of access control; prevent users from unmounting a whole disk.
21:22<SleePy>Wonder if thats only qemu that has this issue then or just hyperv does it differently
21:23<dwfreed>1) hyperv probably does it differently; 2) qemu can remove the disk, it'll just do it whether it's mounted or not; there's no safety
21:30<LouWestin>Since there’s no safety is that why it’s turned off? If I’m understanding it correctly.
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21:43<dwfreed>LouWestin: yes
21:43<LouWestin>Ok thanks
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