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| 09:35 | <linbot> | New news from community: How do I install the latest version of PostgreSQL on Ubuntu 16.04? <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/17509> |
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| 09:55 | <linbot> | New news from community: Copy Block Storage Volumes <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/17510> |
| 10:05 | <linbot> | New news from community: Nginx built with Pagespeed,ssl, http2, brotli and mod security <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/17511> |
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| 11:50 | <LouWestin> | Off topic there was someone on here a few months ago who was asking why we bother with unsecured IRC.. Well... |
| 11:50 | <LouWestin> | https://blog.talosintelligence.com/2018/05/telegrab.html |
| 11:50 | <LouWestin> | When malware can grab your encrypted communications... eh... |
| 11:52 | <LouWestin> | This case it’s telegram which I’m a little familiar with. |
| 11:55 | <Abi12> | unsecured irc is better than using a secured discord/slack which will store every click and sell that information. |
| 11:55 | <Abi12> | oftc doesn't allow ssl? |
| 11:55 | <synfinatic> | sure it does. |
| 11:56 | <Abi12> | \o/ then it's secure :p |
| 11:56 | <synfinatic> | but unless everyone is ssl, then ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
| 11:56 | <dwfreed> | "secure" |
| 11:56 | <Woet> | Abi12: "which will store every click and sell that information." - source? |
| 11:57 | <synfinatic> | pretty sure slack doesn't do that. would hurt their biz model |
| 11:57 | <synfinatic> | discord afaik, has no biz model so can't comment :) |
| 11:57 | <LouWestin> | At least with IRC I know that everything is basically public. |
| 11:57 | <synfinatic> | yeah. sets expectations |
| 11:57 | <synfinatic> | also: let's face it. you can write a bot to log an irc channel. same for a slack/discord channel. |
| 11:57 | <Woet> | synfinatic: https://discordapp.com/nitro |
| 11:58 | <dwfreed> | synfinatic: discord's business model is nitro, and istr they started a game store thingy too |
| 11:58 | <Abi12> | I'm just talking out of my ass. 0 sources. It just seems like what closed-source products enjoy doing. |
| 11:58 | <Abi12> | 'have to do'. They might not enjoy it. |
| 11:58 | <LouWestin> | But I don’t do illegal stuff where I’d be freaking out that telegram or whatever got breached. |
| 12:00 | <synfinatic> | Woet ah, forgot about that. there's like half a dozen other companies (like Amazon) also on the "monthly fee for a bunch of games" model. i guess the extra perks in chat is nice. but i've never understood todays kids desire to spend hours watching other people play games when you can play yourself |
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| 12:01 | <dwfreed> | LouWestin: and if you were, you'd want to use Signal anyway |
| 12:01 | <synfinatic> | anyways, thats why I talk about all my felonies via gpg/dead drops |
| 12:01 | <csnxs> | I highly doubt discord can fund their infrastructre on nitro alone, and I doubt anyone actually uses the game store |
| 12:01 | <Abi12> | ^ |
| 12:01 | <Abi12> | Isn't nitro just paid reactions? |
| 12:01 | <dwfreed> | csnxs: oh, I'm sure that there are people that do |
| 12:02 | <dwfreed> | Abi12: there's more to it than that, see Woet's link |
| 12:02 | <LouWestin> | dwfreed: I’d still be too paranoid lol |
| 12:02 | <Abi12> | o.o when did this happen. |
| 12:02 | <dwfreed> | and there are *a lot* of nitro subscribers, you'd be surprised |
| 12:02 | <synfinatic> | there are people who have planned felonies in public irc channels. nothing surprises me anymore. |
| 12:03 | <Abi12> | ahh I was thinking about Nitro classic. |
| 12:03 | <dwfreed> | https://techcrunch.com/2018/08/09/discord-is-launching-a-game-store/ |
| 12:03 | <dwfreed> | and nitro classic is more than just paid reactions too :P |
| 12:03 | <dwfreed> | the game store actually launched in mid-October |
| 12:08 | <Abi12> | I know a couple people who subscribe to nitro class. Is their game store actually doing well? |
| 12:09 | <Abi12> | err I have no clue any of this gaming stuff works. Is it just the same as steam or whatever? lol |
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| 13:01 | <alexf> | "also: let's face it. you can write a bot to log an irc channel. " <= I'm pretty sure mikegrb is doing exactly that for this chan |
| 13:02 | <alexf> | https://irclogs.thegrebs.com/linode/2018/12/27 |
| 13:06 | <dwfreed> | that isn't a bot, though, that's just mikegrb's irc client |
| 13:09 | <alexf> | The point is to demonstrate the principle |
| 13:14 | <LouWestin> | Side note: That’s interesting though Discord is going to compete with steam |
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| 15:06 | <linbot> | New news from community: After I upgraded from Ubuntu 16 to Ubuntu 18, my network configuration seems to be a broken mess. <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/17512> |
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| 15:46 | <linbot> | New news from community: What's My Linodes Carbon Footprint? <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/17513> |
| 15:46 | <LouWestin> | Seriously... |
| 15:48 | <LouWestin> | I vote that Linode switches their DC’s solar. Unless solar panel production causes some other harm to the earth. |
| 15:50 | <Peng> | I vote Linode builds a nuclear power plant |
| 15:51 | <Woet> | ^ |
| 15:51 | <LouWestin> | LOL |
| 15:52 | <LouWestin> | Linode Fusion |
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| 16:29 | <dwfreed> | LouWestin: solar production is nasty shit |
| 16:30 | <LouWestin> | dwfreed: I had a strong feeling that you’d know. ;-) |
| 16:30 | <dwfreed> | friend from college works for First Solar |
| 16:30 | <LouWestin> | I know battery production is environmentally bad too. |
| 16:31 | <dwfreed> | yep |
| 16:31 | <LouWestin> | So those hippies driving electric cars laughing at us gas users... yeah... |
| 16:32 | <dwfreed> | I mean, the thing is we can do stuff about that |
| 16:32 | <dwfreed> | there's only so much you can do to exhaust from burning gas |
| 16:32 | <LouWestin> | I’m still driving my 2006 Civic at least that’s kind of helping. |
| 16:33 | <LouWestin> | I’d say more mass transportation would be great. |
| 16:34 | <dwfreed> | yeah, mass transit helps significantly |
| 16:35 | <LouWestin> | At least by me we got buses and Metra within walking distance. You can get to to Chicago by bus, train and L train. |
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| 16:36 | <LouWestin> | I mean take the bus to the L Train. |
| 16:38 | <LouWestin> | Metra is nicer though. The issue they have is funding though |
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| 23:37 | <linbot> | New news from community: Possible SYN flooding on port 443 error in Lish console <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/17514> |
| 23:50 | <zifnab> | kindly help |
| 23:51 | <LouWestin> | With? |
| 23:52 | <zifnab> | i'm kidding, i just love the bad translation at the end of that forum post |
| 23:52 | <zifnab> | 'kindly help in this issue' |
| 23:53 | <LouWestin> | Ah... |
| 23:53 | <zifnab> | however, i'm now trying to figure out the environmental impact of solar panel production |
| 23:53 | <zifnab> | thanks to you |
| 23:53 | <LouWestin> | You’re welcome |
| 23:53 | <zifnab> | it appears the answer is "it's better than coal, but not quite as good as hydro" |
| 23:54 | <zifnab> | that's probably a good enough answer. |
| 23:54 | <zifnab> | linode should build hydroelectric plants to power their datacenters |
| 23:54 | <LouWestin> | Hydro dams might be best |
| 23:55 | <zifnab> | the downside is dams generally destroy ecosystems behind them, when they cause an area to flood and turn into a lake |
| 23:55 | <LouWestin> | Right right |
| 23:56 | <LouWestin> | I can ping that site https://addguru.in/ |
| 23:56 | <zifnab> | icmp != tcp |
| 23:56 | <zifnab> | if someone's doing a synflood of some sort, icmp probably still works |
| 23:56 | <LouWestin> | Getting 200’ish from where I’m at. |
| 23:56 | <LouWestin> | Ok. So it’s not totally down |
| 23:56 | <zifnab> | icmp is on the transport layer, same as tcp and udp |
| 23:57 | <zifnab> | but meh, i just found the bad english funny, as i normally do |
| 23:57 | <zifnab> | 'would you kindly, please to thanks in advance' is still my favorite |
| 23:57 | <LouWestin> | It’s been over a year since I took a networking class. I remember some of theory. Lol |
| 23:58 | <zifnab> | oh man, centurylink's outage today? |
| 23:58 | <zifnab> | brought 911 services down for a chunk of montana |
| 23:58 | <zifnab> | someone's gonna be in trouble. |
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