--- | Log | opened Tue Jan 22 00:00:26 2019 |
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01:44 | <SwadeNet> | hello anyone in here used to setting up websites? |
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01:47 | <SwadeNet> | hello |
01:50 | <Woet> | SwadeNet: what is your actual question? |
01:51 | <SwadeNet> | just need someone who knows there way around to help me set one up willing to pay for setup fees |
01:51 | <Woet> | SwadeNet: yes, most people who buy an unmanaged Linux VPS know how to set up a website. |
01:51 | <SwadeNet> | as im not really familer with the websites |
01:53 | <SwadeNet> | you know how to set one up? |
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02:14 | <zifnab> | i fucking hate email |
02:14 | <zifnab> | i keep getting emails saying fjksldajfkld@sdkjfklsdjflds.lineageos.org or something is sending spam |
02:14 | <zifnab> | okay, fine, i'll finally set up an opensmtpd server and force everyone to use it and just dkim reject everything not from that server, that's fine |
02:15 | <zifnab> | "hey we spammed your valid email, it passed dkim/spf/dmarc but we just decided it wasn't worth accepting" |
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02:41 | <SwadeNet> | hello |
02:45 | <SwadeNet> | HELP SENDPASS |
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02:47 | <SwadeNet> | hello all |
02:49 | <SwadeNet> | is anyone on that can help me with a website |
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05:08 | <atiqch> | hi |
05:18 | <Shailen> | hi everyone |
05:18 | <Shailen> | i'm having an issue with my sendmail .. |
05:22 | <Shailen> | https://bpaste.net/show/dd0fbb7f956c |
05:22 | <Shailen> | any idea please |
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05:28 | <Shailen> | can you please help me? for the sendmail |
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05:42 | <Shailen> | No one :( |
05:45 | <Shailen> | https://bpaste.net/show/ca27198adcc4 |
05:45 | <Shailen> | any idea? |
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06:43 | <dzho> | Shailen: has it ever worked? if it has, what did you change? if it hasn't, why in FSM's name are you using sendmail or all things? |
06:43 | <dzho> | are you using some sort of installation and configuration instructions from somewhere, if so, what and where? |
06:44 | <dzho> | it looks like it could be a permissions problem, but I can't tell from the error messages where |
06:44 | <dzho> | and I don't use sendmail as such so I don't have the experience or a good reference system running to check. |
06:44 | <Shailen> | i grand all permissions to the mqueue folders |
06:45 | <dzho> | how? |
06:45 | <Shailen> | chmod |
06:45 | <dzho> | recursively? |
06:45 | <Shailen> | no |
06:45 | <dzho> | there's more than one? |
06:45 | <Shailen> | var/mail too |
06:45 | <dzho> | can you increase the verbosity level of your logging? |
06:46 | <Shailen> | i'm logging as root |
06:48 | <dzho> | that's the owner, not the level |
06:48 | <dzho> | I mean, maybe that isn't something one can do, I'm just working from general principles here. |
06:48 | <dzho> | owner/user |
06:49 | <dzho> | I'm talking about "how much stuff does it write in the logs: none, a little, a lot, oh please make it stop this will fill up my hard disk soon" |
06:50 | <Shailen> | yes .. i'm looking into it ... |
06:50 | <Shailen> | sorry i'm not very conversant with linux ... just trying |
06:50 | <dzho> | you should probably *not* use root, by the way |
06:51 | <dzho> | use some mail-specific user and group |
06:51 | <dzho> | your mail program should have the ability to run roughshod over the rest of the system |
06:51 | <dzho> | the group sticky bit in these examples is telling: https://community.hpe.com/t5/System-Administration/About-sendmail-sm-io-flush-sm-io-error/td-p/4226088 |
06:51 | <dzho> | also, the setuid bit |
06:52 | <Shailen> | so permission /var/spool is set to 2750 no recursive |
06:53 | <Shailen> | and 2770 for mqueue-client |
06:53 | <dzho> | is that a directory? |
06:54 | <dzho> | /var/spool might be used for more than mail, printing for example, so I'd look for permissions at least another level down |
06:54 | <dzho> | /var/spool/mail maybe? |
06:55 | <Shailen> | yes .. directory |
06:55 | <Shailen> | https://bpaste.net/show/3141091dd97c |
06:55 | <Shailen> | sendmail -Ac -q -v |
06:56 | <dzho> | try running sendmail with strace, maybe, to see what it's trying to write? |
06:56 | <dzho> | I'm not certain /var/spool/mqueue-client is your problem |
06:57 | <Shailen> | va/mail is set to 0770 |
06:57 | <Shailen> | running sendmail with strace ... i really dont understand |
07:00 | <dzho> | strace sendmail -Ac -q -v |
07:02 | <Shailen> | https://bpaste.net/show/8c208f7d3a15 |
07:02 | <Shailen> | and lot more |
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07:06 | <Shailen> | https://bpaste.net/show/63796403e33b |
07:06 | <Shailen> | i'm getting an error of (no such file or directory) |
07:08 | <Shailen> | lstat var/lib/sendmail/sm-client.st - file doesn't exist |
07:10 | <dzho> | it also tried to unlink it earlier |
07:10 | <dzho> | but that can't be everything, where does that filename even come from in the first place? |
07:11 | <Shailen> | i think the file doesnt exist coz sendmail mailstats is not enable |
07:11 | <dzho> | yeah, sorry, I have no idea |
07:14 | <Shailen> | i erally think the issue is there https://bpaste.net/show/b3fe21a11b14 |
07:15 | <Shailen> | but i can't really figure out where or what is the issue |
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10:21 | <forgotmyname8> | Hello to everybody! I am not sure if this is the right place to ask about help troubleshooting an issue I am having with apache on ubuntu 18.04, but I am a newbie with server setup :( |
10:24 | <forgotmyname8> | I am trying to set up a testing server for a Symfony project I am working on. Symfony would provide a REST API backend for a js frontend, but for some reason I am getting a CORS policy error. At this point I am 99 percent sure the error is in the Apache configuration |
10:25 | <forgotmyname8> | But I don't know how to troubleshoot that |
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12:14 | <Anil> | Hi |
12:16 | <linbot> | New news from community: Getting error in Sendmail <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/17631> |
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15:06 | <grawity> | "That's actually kind of weird because we don't pay for hosting. [...] it might be that we're not 100% sure where we're hosted." -- not the words you want to hear when you're trying to help someone with their website... |
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15:07 | <grawity> | "[...] so it looks like somehow the site is still hosted by <company>, even though we stopped paying that years ago" |
15:07 | <relidy> | Oh man, I've had clients like that. |
15:08 | <relidy> | Dealing with one right now that hasn't paid his email hosting in years. When that host realized and tried to collect for that period, the client threw a fit. |
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15:28 | <dzho> | heh |
15:28 | <dzho> | I had an account with a VPS provider and they had some sort of a rough patch, organizationally. |
15:28 | <dzho> | they stopped charging me, amongst other problems, so I migrated away, but kept the VPS running just to see what would happen. |
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15:29 | <dzho> | like, I expected they'd get on track again and try to reach out to bill me or something, but they never did. |
15:29 | <dzho> | eventually it stopped working and that was that. |
15:29 | <dzho> | the end. |
15:30 | <relidy> | Strange. Wonder if they just completely lost track of who to contact regarding that VPS and decided that terminating it would be easier? |
15:30 | <dzho> | that was two providers ago: I moved from them to slicehost, and then when slicehost ended their incredible journey by being absorbed by rackspace, I moved here. |
15:32 | <dzho> | yeah, no iea |
15:32 | <dzho> | idea |
15:32 | <dzho> | they seemed to get better, eventually, and are still a thing. I have a friend who used them since then (maybe still does, I don't know?) |
15:33 | <relidy> | On the flip side, we've had clients order multi-thousand dollar projects only to go dark and abandon it. Occasionally they reappear years later wanting a refund or to pick the project up again (but of course prices have changed dramatically in that time). |
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17:50 | <zifnab> | going to say this again |
17:50 | <zifnab> | i hate email |
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20:08 | <linbot> | New news from community: I cannot get my test page to load. <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/17632> |
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20:12 | <Shailen> | Hi again guys |
20:13 | <Shailen> | im still having issues with sendmail ... |
20:13 | <Shailen> | https://bpaste.net/show/18646190f5f5 |
20:13 | <Shailen> | smtp + port 25 are well configured in UFW |
20:14 | <Shailen> | chmod 0755 var/mail + var/spool/mqeue |
20:15 | <Shailen> | but all mails are stucked in var/spool/mqueue-client/ |
20:15 | <Shailen> | any idea please |
20:16 | <millisa> | not sure sendmail like the mqueue permissions being 755. |
20:16 | <Shailen> | I like modify it for testing |
20:17 | <Shailen> | https://bpaste.net/show/9decb9013ca9 |
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20:18 | <Shailen> | @millisa check the output sample |
20:18 | <millisa> | I did... and I don't think sendmail likes the permissions on the mqueue dir to be that broad. |
20:18 | <millisa> | you've set it so any user on the system can read it |
20:19 | <Shailen> | there is only one user "root" |
20:21 | <Shailen> | any idea why i'm getting an I/O error please? |
20:21 | <millisa> | other than what I've said twice already? that your permissions on the mqueue dir are too broad? |
20:22 | <millisa> | do not set it to 755 |
20:23 | <Shailen> | ok. to which level should i set it please? |
20:25 | <millisa> | haven't found the reference; probably either 750 or 700 |
20:25 | <Shailen> | ok |
20:25 | <millisa> | there used to be a dontblamesendmail option if you really wanted to use permissions that didn't make sense for those dirs. |
20:27 | <Shailen> | restart sendmail ... still getting this I/O error |
20:29 | <Shailen> | the error seems to be like a permission since it is mentioned "Cannot Write ./ ...." |
20:29 | <millisa> | what is the output of: ls -l /var/spool/mqueue |
20:29 | <Shailen> | total 0 |
20:29 | <Shailen> | ls -l /var/spool/mqueue-client |
20:30 | <Shailen> | total 4964 |
20:30 | <dwfreed> | (you need -d to view the permissions on the directory itself, unless you use -a to look at the permissions of .) |
20:30 | <dwfreed> | so presumably millisa wanted 'ls -ld /var/spool/mqueue' |
20:30 | <millisa> | yeah, sorry |
20:31 | <dwfreed> | alternately, use namei :) |
20:31 | <Shailen> | drwxr-x--- 2 smmsp smmsp 4096 Jan 22 15:28 /var/spool/mqueue |
20:31 | <millisa> | why is your mqueue dir owned by smmsp? |
20:31 | <Shailen> | euhhh don't know .. sorry |
20:32 | <Shailen> | what does that mean please? |
20:33 | <Shailen> | https://bpaste.net/show/28d77eb1a37e |
20:34 | <millisa> | i dont have a sendmail install in front of me; but I could swear that was a dir that needed to be owned by root or sendmail would refuse to do stuff with it unless you use a donotblame option |
20:34 | <Shailen> | no donotblame option |
20:34 | <Shailen> | how can i check this please? |
20:35 | <millisa> | which version of linux are you doing this on? |
20:36 | <Shailen> | Ubuntu 16.04 LTS |
20:36 | <Shailen> | 64 bits |
20:37 | <Shailen> | bit |
20:38 | <Shailen> | I checked on my other linode where sendmail is working and the dir mqueue is owned by smmsp too |
20:41 | <millisa> | I just installed sendmail on a relatively fresh install of 16.04. the permissions look like this: https://bpaste.net/show/ff4f3e590d5d |
20:42 | <Shailen> | ok let me try it |
20:42 | <Shailen> | do you think if i remove sendmail and install it again .. this might solve it |
20:43 | <millisa> | maybe. without knowing why the permissions are the way they are or why they were changed I wouldn't say for sure. for all I know your disk is full |
20:44 | <Shailen> | how can i check if my disk is full please |
20:44 | <millisa> | df |
20:44 | <Shailen> | sorry again |
20:44 | <Woet> | why are you running a mail server if you don't know commands like "df"? |
20:45 | <Woet> | it's just asking for daily headaches |
20:45 | <Shailen> | https://bpaste.net/show/4725aee8f0cf |
20:45 | <Shailen> | sorry Woet ... pls |
20:46 | <Woet> | "sorry pls" is not a reason |
20:47 | <Shailen> | u r right |
20:50 | <Shailen> | so i can't see that my disk is full |
20:50 | <Shailen> | from https://bpaste.net/show/4725aee8f0cf |
20:51 | <millisa> | that'd be how I'd interpret that... |
20:52 | <Shailen> | ohhh |
20:52 | <millisa> | smmta? |
20:53 | <Shailen> | smmta ?? |
20:53 | <millisa> | On a fresh install system, the mqueue dir is owned by smmta, is that true for both of your systems? |
20:55 | <Shailen> | oh no ... the one with the issues is owned by smmsp |
20:58 | <Shailen> | let me change this |
21:04 | <Abi12> | this process shouldn't be this difficult. |
21:04 | <Woet> | I mean, if you're not familiar with basics like "df", running a mail server will be very difficult |
21:08 | <Shailen> | Thank you Woet |
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