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| 02:36 | <linbot> | New news from community: Unable to set name servers <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/17761> |
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| 03:26 | <zlb> | Hello, |
| 03:26 | <zlb> | I need some IPs to do a ping and have a test |
| 03:26 | <grawity> | https://www.linode.com/speedtest |
| 03:26 | <zlb> | I am in China, and not sure whether the host in here is suit for me |
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| 06:17 | <linbot> | New news from community: How do I delete a tag in the new linode interface? <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/17762> |
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| 08:58 | <bestdesign> | hey |
| 08:58 | <bestdesign> | linode |
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| 09:02 | <Woet> | hi |
| 09:02 | <Woet> | bestdesign |
| 09:08 | <bestdesign> | whats s up? |
| 09:09 | <Woet> | my Linodes. |
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| 09:17 | <dzho> | it is thursday, my linodes |
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| 09:38 | <linbot> | New news from community: How do I mount a volume without rebooting? <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/17763> |
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| 12:48 | <mezzat> | how to link domain with linode with new cloud manager? |
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| 13:12 | <SPAMKILLER> | trmuirm+ |
| 13:13 | <SPAMKILLER> | On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 12:22 AM - I SENT ABUSE ABOUT YOUR FUCKING CRIMINAL CUSTOMER !!!!!! |
| 13:14 | <SPAMKILLER> | I GET EACH DAY OVER 20 EMAILS FROM THS BASTARD YND YOU ARE STILL SLEEPING !!!! |
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| 14:40 | <Shentino> | I'd like to create a linode from scratch, by booting it off of a linux distro's install CD |
| 14:40 | <Shentino> | how do I do that? |
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| 14:40 | <millisa> | https://www.linode.com/docs/tools-reference/custom-kernels-distros/install-a-custom-distribution-on-a-linode/ |
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| 14:42 | <Shentino> | not quite what I want |
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| 14:42 | <Shentino> | I want to do low level installation from an ISO |
| 14:43 | <millisa> | you would have to dd the iso out to a temporary installer disk |
| 14:43 | <Shentino> | I am willing to download it from within the linode itself |
| 14:43 | <Shentino> | :< |
| 14:43 | <dwfreed> | that's exactly what that guide tells you how to do |
| 14:43 | <dwfreed> | dd an iso to a disk and boot it |
| 14:43 | <Shentino> | ...can the installer disk be seen by the linode as a cdrom and not a hard drive? |
| 14:44 | <dwfreed> | that distinction is irrelevant |
| 14:44 | <dwfreed> | the fs is iso9660, which is readonly |
| 14:44 | <Shentino> | I mean how the volume is seen hard-ware wise by the guest kernel |
| 14:44 | <dwfreed> | regardless of whether the block device hosting it is a cdrom drive or a hard drive |
| 14:44 | <Shentino> | Anyway I thought I could just boot off the rescue image and do it the manual way |
| 14:45 | <dwfreed> | ...you can... |
| 14:45 | <millisa> | did i link the wrong doc? |
| 14:45 | <dwfreed> | millisa: no |
| 14:46 | <millisa> | booting into rescue mode, getting the iso and puttig it on the installer disk the first 2 steps at https://www.linode.com/docs/tools-reference/custom-kernels-distros/install-a-custom-distribution-on-a-linode/#download-and-install-image |
| 14:46 | <millisa> | what OS are you trying to install? |
| 14:47 | <Shentino> | linux mint, or a raw install of gentoo |
| 14:47 | <Shentino> | let me check the docs again |
| 14:47 | <dwfreed> | I have done a gentoo install from rescue mode before |
| 14:48 | <Shentino> | ok I messed up :P |
| 14:48 | <dwfreed> | you don't even need an iso, just use rescue mode as what you install from |
| 14:48 | <Shentino> | ok, so next question |
| 14:49 | <Shentino> | can I just create a blank linode to start with or do I have to create from a dummy that i'm just going to overwrite? |
| 14:49 | <v0lksman> | stange...can't edit or delete NS records that are pointing to ns*.linode.com but can that point to other nameservers. Is there a reason? |
| 14:49 | <smallclone> | i think the guide kinda covers that as well |
| 14:49 | <dwfreed> | v0lksman: so you don't break anything |
| 14:50 | <smallclone> | with a new linode, you create the installer disk, and then a second disk that the installer will...err, install to |
| 14:50 | <smallclone> | you don't really need a "dummy," this can all be done with one linode |
| 14:50 | <dwfreed> | v0lksman: it's fine if the zone has more nameservers than the delegation specifies; the reverse, however, is not okay |
| 14:50 | <millisa> | Shentino: your linode can be completely new. I'd argue it's even preferable |
| 14:50 | <Shentino> | so...ho0w do I create a blank linode? |
| 14:50 | <v0lksman> | so I have to use the API to remove them then? |
| 14:50 | <dwfreed> | v0lksman: you can't remove them at all |
| 14:51 | <v0lksman> | but I created them |
| 14:51 | <millisa> | Shentino: goto add a linode, pick it, pick the location, click add this linode. https://www.linode.com/docs/getting-started/#sign-up |
| 14:51 | <dwfreed> | why did you make duplicates? O.o |
| 14:51 | <Shentino> | that documentation appears to be out of date |
| 14:51 | <Peng> | v0lksman: ...Can you post a screenshot? What's your domain? |
| 14:51 | <millisa> | Shentino: you dont have to deploy an image to a linode. they are completely bare, no disk setup by default. |
| 14:51 | <Shentino> | I now have the "cloud" interface |
| 14:51 | <v0lksman> | I didn't...I delegated authority for a sub domain |
| 14:51 | <Peng> | Oh. |
| 14:52 | <dwfreed> | going to need specific example, like screenshots |
| 14:53 | <millisa> | Shentino: manager.linode.com gets to the old interface |
| 14:54 | <v0lksman> | https://dpaste.de/K1Ly - I can edit the last two to update them. I can't edit the first 4 |
| 14:54 | <dwfreed> | can you not redact? |
| 14:54 | <v0lksman> | gah...last two lines would actually be more like another.foo.com |
| 14:54 | <v0lksman> | cannot delete or edit |
| 14:54 | <millisa> | Shentino: it looks like you can deselect the Image in the new cloud interface to have it deploy empty |
| 14:55 | <v0lksman> | (new dashboard interface if that helps any) |
| 14:55 | <dwfreed> | works fine in the old manager |
| 14:56 | <dwfreed> | https://i.imgur.com/Uvw7Xsz.png |
| 14:56 | <dwfreed> | (I actually have a zone in the DNS manager called 'thisdomaindoesntreallyexi.st' |
| 14:57 | <v0lksman> | how do you switch back to the old interface? |
| 14:57 | <dwfreed> | just go to it |
| 14:57 | <dwfreed> | https://manager.linode.com/ |
| 14:57 | <v0lksman> | ahhh...there we go |
| 14:57 | <dwfreed> | if in the cloud manager you can't remove the equivalent foobar NS ns1.linode.com record, then that's a bug in the cloud manager |
| 14:58 | <v0lksman> | yep...totally is |
| 14:58 | <v0lksman> | and all that just to adjust the TTL |
| 14:58 | <dwfreed> | lol |
| 15:13 | <Shentino> | figured it out |
| 15:17 | <Shentino> | it's under advanced configurations to muss with the volumes |
| 15:49 | <linbot> | New news from community: My website has a 522 error <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/17764> |
| 16:03 | <Shentino> | ok |
| 16:03 | <Shentino> | new question |
| 16:03 | <Shentino> | can I tell my linode to boot off a custom bootloader like grub installed to the linode's hard drive? |
| 16:08 | <Shentino> | wait |
| 16:08 | <Shentino> | let me try creating a bios boot partition first |
| 16:08 | <Shentino> | yay for GPT ^^ |
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| 17:26 | <jose> | When I register as a new user, are there limits of the size of instance I can create? |
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| 17:27 | <Shentino> | I copied a bootable iso to a disk, and I'm trying to get my linode to boot from the iso |
| 17:27 | <Shentino> | but it's saying it's not bootable |
| 17:28 | <millisa> | did you set it up exactly like the custom distribution doc using the same profile names? |
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| 17:29 | <Shentino> | I just created a custom config after using the rescue config to cat an iso |
| 17:31 | <Shentino> | ok it booted from that |
| 17:31 | <Shentino> | but apparently I need to catch the VM within 15 seconds of bootup or the iso's own bootloader crashes |
| 17:32 | <millisa> | sounds odd, what iso are you using |
| 17:32 | <Shentino> | gentoo livecd |
| 17:35 | <Shentino> | I officially give up |
| 17:35 | <Shentino> | I'm just going to go with a premade linode config |
| 17:35 | <Shentino> | less hassle |
| 17:36 | <Shentino> | my impression is that my kind of custom setup isn't supported |
| 17:38 | <Shentino> | gentoo's iso appears to want to default to booting from the "local hard disk" which, chicken vs egg, isn't bootable yet |
| 17:40 | <millisa> | gentoo used to work with this method; haven't tried it recently though |
| 17:41 | <Shentino> | well, it works, technically |
| 17:41 | <Shentino> | the problem is that the gentoo iso doesn't give me enough time to use the lish thing to get to the "screen" before it defaults to the local disk and then bites the dust |
| 17:42 | <millisa> | are you using lish or glish? |
| 17:42 | <Shentino> | both |
| 17:42 | <smallclone> | so you're booting into the installer profile? |
| 17:43 | <Shentino> | sorta. I cat'ed the gentoo install iso to a disk, and then created a config to boot that disk, with the "Direct Disk" kernel |
| 17:43 | <smallclone> | err, i assumed by "cat'd" you mean used dd? |
| 17:43 | <Shentino> | same thing, but yeah |
| 17:43 | <millisa> | The minimal install cd or the hybrid iso/livedvd? |
| 17:43 | <Shentino> | I used cat |
| 17:44 | <Shentino> | minimal install cd |
| 17:45 | <millisa> | i'll take a stab at it if you want to wait a few mins |
| 17:45 | <Shentino> | sure |
| 17:46 | <smallclone> | Shentino: could you post a screenshot of your config profile page? |
| 17:46 | <Shentino> | once I get past the "install from the iso" bit I was going to set up lvm on gpt |
| 17:48 | <Shentino> | I'm afraid the profile page is too big to screenshot |
| 17:48 | <smallclone> | nvm i have to run, but if you do find that there's an issue with that guide please open a GH issue - it doesn't get much attention these days |
| 17:48 | <smallclone> | huh odd |
| 17:48 | <smallclone> | i haven't used the new manager yet |
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| 17:51 | <millisa> | seems to be working ok for me. |
| 17:51 | <millisa> | oooh, and ended up on an epyc 7501 too. maybe i'll keep this |
| 17:52 | <Woet> | im gonna sell "pick the cpu you want" as a service |
| 17:52 | <Woet> | you enter the cpu you want |
| 17:52 | <Woet> | my service will spam the linode api and create thousands of linodes until you get the one you want |
| 17:52 | <Woet> | mcintosh: thats ok right? |
| 17:53 | <millisa> | Shentino: so I used lish for the initial hitting a key. Had lish open in rescue mode first - kept that session open while hitting the reboot key in the manager. when lish dumped me out to the lish prompt, i hit enter a few times |
| 17:55 | <millisa> | i took over with a glish session once I saw it booting |
| 18:04 | <@mcintosh> | Woet: sure, it'll cost ya though ;p |
| 18:05 | <Woet> | waiting for the per-minute billing |
| 18:05 | <Woet> | like your competitors do |
| 18:05 | <millisa> | Spinnin' up linodes repeatedly to get the processor you want? That's a paddlin' |
| 18:09 | <Shentino> | millisa: was it complicated? |
| 18:10 | <millisa> | not really. i literally followed that document as written, using a 300mb installer disk. for getting the iso to the disk: curl http://distfiles.gentoo.org/releases/amd64/autobuilds/20190212T214502Z/install-amd64-minimal-20190212T214502Z.iso | dd of=/dev/sda |
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| 18:11 | <Shentino> | that was the easy part |
| 18:11 | <Shentino> | the hard part is the lish catching the iso before it dumps to boot |
| 18:11 | <millisa> | i didnt' take it past the point where it got to the livecd prompt and I could see the other disk at /dev/sda |
| 18:13 | <millisa> | try using lish, not glish for the initial catching of the 'hit enter'. i used 'ssh -t mylinodeusername@lish-dallas.linode.com mylinodename' when it was in rescue mode |
| 18:13 | <millisa> | when i told it to reboot, it dropped me at the lish prompt and i just tapped enter every second. |
| 18:17 | <millisa> | once I saw it 'Loading gentoo... okk' and 'Loading gentoo.igz...okk' in the lish window, I switched over to glish |
| 18:17 | <Shentino> | sounds like a hassle |
| 18:17 | <millisa> | I'm assuming there were probably options I could have done at the boot: prompt to make it work in lish |
| 18:17 | <Shentino> | I think my internet's a little flaky and can't intercept it in time |
| 18:17 | <millisa> | 'installing gentoo' + 'sounds like a hassle'? |
| 18:18 | <Shentino> | the hassle is catching the iso at the console before it autoboots the unbootable hard drive |
| 18:18 | <Shentino> | it's a race condition |
| 18:18 | <Shentino> | installing gentoo itself is manageable once I get past that |
| 18:18 | <Shentino> | and I've wrangled gentoo plenty on my desktop |
| 18:21 | <Shentino> | ok |
| 18:22 | <Shentino> | so with my shitty internet and it being a flat out race condition where the gentoo iso has a stubborn mind of its own...I giv eup |
| 18:22 | <millisa> | my only other suggestion is to power off the linode, and get logged into lish first. it'll throw a 'There is no screen to be attached matching linode####..' but at least you'd be at the point where you could hit enter after you hit the boot button |
| 18:23 | <millisa> | hitting enter before you boot the linode will just keep throwing the no screen message, so you can keep tapping it |
| 18:24 | <Shentino> | my internet is a shitty dsl line |
| 18:31 | <millisa> | i suppose the other option would be to rebuild the install cd to remove the timeout 150 from the isolinux.cfg |
| 18:31 | <millisa> | or remove the ontimeout line |
| 18:38 | <Shentino> | too much hassle |
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| 18:53 | <Shentino> | gentoo, you are a pain in the ass |
| 18:54 | <millisa> | testing a rebuilt iso right now |
| 19:00 | <linbot> | New news from community: apt-get install libapache2-svn apache2 ... libapache2-svn not found <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/17765> |
| 19:09 | <millisa> | Shentino: you can try http://jerk.work/shentino-install-amd64-minimal-20190212T214502Z.iso |
| 19:10 | <millisa> | Shentino: these are the steps I used to create it and edit out the two timeout lines: https://vomitb.in/VPqZLJuEvC |
| 19:10 | <millisa> | it appears to give me a 'boot:' prompt in lish that sits and waits forever |
| 19:19 | <Shentino> | thanks. I decided it was less hassle to just eat a premade gentoo install |
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| 19:31 | <Peng> | You have a .work domain? |
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| 19:55 | <Woet> | does it work? |
| 20:11 | <Shentino> | :P |
| 20:11 | <Shentino> | how fast is a linode resize supposed to happen? |
| 20:12 | <Peng> | Are you doing one now? Pretty fast. |
| 20:12 | <Shentino> | yeah |
| 20:12 | <Shentino> | I'm resizing a nanode to a dedicated cpu 16 and back again |
| 20:12 | <Shentino> | taking several minutes |
| 20:13 | <Peng> | You should be able to watch it copy the disk images in the manager. |
| 20:13 | <Shentino> | I wanted to give it bigger muscles to flex to do a compile churn |
| 20:13 | <Shentino> | if I resize my linode does it have to switch physical hosts? |
| 20:13 | <Peng> | Either "usually" or "yes definitely" |
| 20:13 | <Shentino> | is that why it's taking so long? |
| 20:14 | <Peng> | Maybe? |
| 20:14 | <Peng> | Linode won't promise that it will be fast, but my rule of thumb is that disks are usually copied at about 1500 Mbps. Sometimes more, sometimes less. |
| 20:15 | <Shentino> | so basically, copying using the bandwidth of the LAN backend |
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| 20:38 | <millisa> | Peng: yeah, it amused me and porkbun had them for cheap |
| 20:40 | <Peng> | :D Saaaaaaame. Except the .work domain I bought at Porkbun is boring |
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| 23:22 | <pclover> | So a question... What is linodes IPv6 setup? Are you able to get a routed /64 block? |
| 23:26 | <pclover> | reading it says by default you get one IP via SLAAC which to me seems like it's going to change each time you reboot... |
| 23:30 | <Zr40> | no, it won't change |
| 23:31 | <pclover> | hum that's interesting afik SLAAC address will change on each boot. perhaps i thinking of privacy extensions |
| 23:32 | <Zr40> | those do change over time, even without rebooting |
| 23:32 | <Zr40> | SLAAC itself relies only on the router advertisement and the MAC address |
| 23:33 | <pclover> | i thought there was another random variable it uses as well to generate a v6 address. |
| 23:36 | <pclover> | then i suppose for v4 that can be pulled via typical dhcp |
| 23:37 | <pclover> | i'm just use to everything having to be static |
| 23:38 | <Zr40> | if you're using the default configuration, linode will put static configuration in place for v4 |
| 23:40 | <linbot> | New news from community: NodeBalancer Multidomains support? <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/17766> |
| 23:41 | <pclover> | and another big question is how well has linnode kept up with CPU microcode updates |
| 23:41 | <pclover> | since Meltdown, Spectre, L1TF and SSB are extremely serious issues still |
| 23:41 | <pclover> | esp for shared environments like linode |
| 23:42 | <Zr40> | https://blog.linode.com/category/security/ |
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| 23:44 | <pclover> | good to see. Still is a bit scary since it truly can't be fixed unless they completely do re-design how branch prediction works |
| 23:54 | <pclover> | anyhow thanks for the help |
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