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00:53<linbot>New news from community: How do I lock down my firewall so that only my services can communicate? <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/17879>
01:03<linbot>New news from community: How do I move an IP Address around between different Linodes? <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/17880>
01:43<linbot>New news from community: http/https configurations for cloudflare <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/17881>
02:20<Woet>so many fake questions
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02:32<chesty>is the Linode forum user some random customer?
02:33<Woet>its Linode staff posting their support ticket on their behalf
02:33<Woet>because people keep opening tickets for no reason
02:42<chesty>ah, that makes sense
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03:24<linbot>New news from community: Should I add DNS records using Linode DNS Manager or ISPConfig? <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/17882>
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03:35<asf>hi
03:37<asf>does linode accept paypal payments?
03:37<Zr40>no, only card payments
03:38<asf>bank transfers?#
03:38<dwfreed>Zr40: they accept paypal by adding credit after completing the signup
03:38<dwfreed>you still need a credit card to sign up
03:38<dwfreed>!paypal
03:38<linbot>Make a Payment - via PayPal (beta): https://blog.linode.com/2016/07/26/paypal-payments/
03:39<Woet>> beta
03:39<Woet>> 2016
03:40<dwfreed>nobody updated the factoid
03:41<asf>thank yoy Zr40 and dwfreed
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03:46<chesty>you need to supply a credit card to pay with paypal? I often pay with paypal so i don't have to give someone my credit card
03:48<dwfreed>chesty: it's required as an anti-fraud measure
03:48<dwfreed>also the paypal setup isn't subscription, you have to manually add credit
03:49<dwfreed>so the credit card serves as a fallback if you forget
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04:15<nate>chesty: Just get a paypal debit card?
05:14<linbot>New news from community: My server crashes at 12:01am on the first of every month. What is going on? <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/17883>
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09:28<Alex-->could someone confirm the ECDSA SHA-256 fingerprint for lish-london.linode.com for me please?
09:29<Alex-->https://www.linode.com/docs/platform/manager/using-the-linode-shell-lish/ says: L7sQgnpnoBwRoyIYXAFBs8SdSnwtyYmhXs1p/mQDKQM
09:30<Alex-->i'm seeing mE/plOHLl+NJ7LUdW7AaMEOnhskXZxav5Em/rD6VZ5g (as does sshcheck.com)
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09:53<dzho>the former hash you give is the sha-256 fingerprint for a rsa-sha2-256 ssh host key, according to sshcheck
09:56<dzho>Alex--: ^^^^
09:56<dzho>which is to say, *not* an ECDSA key
09:57<dzho> but linode does say it is an ECDSA key so, hmm.
09:57<dzho>!ops
09:57<linbot>Users with ops are employees of Linode, and know what they're talking about. The rest of us are the ever-so-helpful(?) community. Official Linode contact information: https://www.linode.com/contact
09:58<Alex-->yeah, i've seen it change not that long ago - but it did match the docs
09:58<Alex-->looking at some of the commits, looks like some changes are coming
09:59<dzho>ok, when I hit it with ssh, ssh tells me it is ECDSA SHA-256, and I do see the latter hash
10:00<Peng>Plus the servers support Ed25519
10:00<Peng>Also most of them have broken IPv6 again
10:00<dzho>which is to say, same as what sshcheck sees (though with less detail about the name of the key type than what sshcheck shows)
10:01<dzho>it notes it as ecdsa-sha2-nistp256 instead of just ECDSA
10:02<Alex-->yup, connection refused with ipv6
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11:35<linbot>New news from community: Openvas on Ubuntu 16.04 <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/17884>
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12:55<montigny34>i havea beginner question BUT
12:56<montigny34>how do i connect to my pc from my cent os 7 server to grab files
12:56<montigny34>instead of using filezilla to upload it takes forever
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14:00<ks10>Hiya. Quick question if I may - are clones of running Linodes based off a snapshot, or do they do a dd-equivalent of the live disk?
14:17<millisa>if you are talking about this style: https://www.linode.com/docs/platform/disk-images/clone-your-linode/ , assuming you shutdown it is closer to a dd
14:18<millisa>it's a copy of whatever was there, and then going forward it is its own disk. it's not a snapshot with diff's or anything like that
14:20<millisa>(you could even effectively do a dd style clone if you wanted to using rescue mode on both nodes)
14:23<ks10>Sorry for being unclear, I'm specifically wondering about the "clone running Linode" scenario.
14:23<ks10>When I hit the "clone" option on a running Linode, I get a recommendation to shutdown "to avoid corruption".
14:23<ks10>But is this a CYA message in case someone has software that doesn't like hard power offs (as the clone would feel about)?
14:24<millisa>consider if you were dd'ing a disk that has a live mysql db on it.
14:24<ks10>That's exactly why I'm asking if LVM snapshot is involved. :p
14:26<ks10>One way to read the warning is "if you won't shutdown the original, the clone will have disks consistent physically, but the OS and apps will feel like after a hard shutdown". This is completely normal and expected.
14:27<ks10>The other way is "we do not snapshot, we do a stream copy of the live disk, so your clone will be useless".
14:27<ks10>But then why even give the option?
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16:06<linbot>New news from community: Remove private IP <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/17885>
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17:54<bobby>hola, I'm havving issues with one of my vhosts
17:54<bobby>it doesn't want to move past the apache testing page regardless what I do
17:55<bobby>https://unsocialise.com/
17:55<bobby>vhost is fine, I changed the path to something wrong and it told me in the error log it cant be found. I change it to something valid. doesnt work. I change another vhost to the same path, that vhost works
17:55<bobby>restarted php-fpm and httpd
17:55<bobby>httpd error log is fine
17:56<bobby>my vhost site log is saying autoindex: thats the only error
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18:07<Abi12>have you tried...
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18:40<bobby>any help with my vhost?
18:40<bobby>i still cant figure it out
18:44<bobby>has to be something overlooked
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23:37<linbot>New news from community: Unable to login to the cloned linode vis Bitvise SSH <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/17886>
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