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---Logopened Wed May 22 00:00:50 2019
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05:10<linbot>New news from community: WP importer and exporter not working in linode server <>
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06:30<linbot>New news from community: Deployment Script help <>
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08:45<ANDRESSA>help linode?
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08:48<ANDRESSA> help me with my account
08:48<Peng>What kind of help do you need?
08:49<Peng>You may need to file a support ticket.
08:50<linbot>If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read
08:56<ANDRESSA> as a record? I do not speak English, I'm using a translator. Could you help me calmly?
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09:17*DrJ takes a deep breath
09:17<DrJ>okay... go
09:24<dzho>ANDRESSA: we must start with a question from you
09:25<dzho>one type of question I might be able to answer
09:25<dzho>another type of question I can not answer
09:25<dzho>the kind of help you need depends on what problem you have
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09:26<rsdehart>maybe ANDRESSA is a member of a nation of mind readers
09:26<rsdehart>and doesn't realize we need words to communicate
09:26<cruxeternus>She just wanted to know if someone could help her. That's all.
09:26<rsdehart>ah, a survey
09:26<rsdehart>how nice
09:26<dzho>problem solved
09:27<LouWestin>Isn’t that a boat in Persey Jackson series?
09:27<rsdehart>hell if I know
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12:17<Rouge>i want to ask
12:17<Rouge>about linode
12:17<millisa>do it
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12:18<Rouge>Linode 2GB $10/mo ($.015/hr) 2 GB RAM 1 CPU Core 50 GB SSD Storage 2 TB Transfer 40 Gbps Network In 2000 Mbps Network Out
12:18<Rouge>about that
12:18<millisa>what about it
12:18<Rouge>so how many ipv4 i will get?
12:18<Rouge>and how many ipv6?
12:18<linbot>Each Linode comes with 1 public IPv4 address and 1 public IPv6 address. Additional IPv4 addresses are $ 1 per month, and require technical justification. A /64 or /56 of IPv6 can be routed to your Linode at no charge.
12:18<Rouge>because i will be running for IRC
12:19<Rouge>56 of ipv6?
12:19<millisa>a /56
12:19<Peng>4722366482869645213696 addresses.
12:20<Rouge>means only 1 public
12:21<millisa>it comes with a public ipv4 and ipv6 ready to go. if you want the 4,722,366,482,869,645,213,696 extra ipv6 addresses, you put in a ticket for it.
12:21<millisa>If you want extra ipv4, you put in a ticket for that and have to supply justification
12:22<Rouge>if you want the 4,722,366,482,869,645,213,696 extra ipv6 addresses, you put in a ticket for it.
12:22<Rouge>what about the charges?
12:22<Peng>"at no charge"
12:22<linbot>Each Linode comes with 1 public IPv4 address and 1 public IPv6 address. Additional IPv4 addresses are $ 1 per month, and require technical justification. A /64 or /56 of IPv6 can be routed to your Linode at no charge.
12:22<nb>Rouge, why do you need more than one IPv4 for IRC?
12:23<Rouge>ipv4 only 1 will do for me
12:23<nb>oh ok
12:23<Rouge>but i just need ipv6
12:23<Rouge>because i wanna do for rdns
12:23<nb>ipv6 you can put in a ticket and ask for a /64 or /56
12:23<Rouge>to make the vhost
12:23<nb>a /64 should be more than enough
12:23<Rouge>how many can i ask?
12:23<millisa>how many what?
12:23<Peng>Do you need more than 4,722,366,482,869,645,213,696 addresses?
12:24<nb>Rouge, a /64 has a ton. That should be more than enough for all the vhosts you could ever think of
12:24<Rouge>its so many
12:24<Rouge>ok good
12:24<millisa>Eliza? Is that you?
12:24<Rouge>do u support rdns too?
12:24<nb>you can set rdns from the control panel
12:24<dwfreed>note that it needs to be forward confirmed
12:24<Peng>IRC networks usually -- always? -- require that too
12:26<Rouge>glad to hear that
12:27<Rouge>ok for right now
12:27<Rouge>i have a domain + hosting
12:27<Rouge>with another provider
12:28<Rouge>how do i link to my domain?
12:28<Rouge>i mean if i pay for this VPS
12:29<Rouge>can i use my domain?
12:30<millisa>Probably. You might want to look at the getting started guide and the migrating to linode guide to see if it's right for you
12:35<Peng>You should ask your other DNS provider that.
12:38*tmberg have 4,722,366,482,869,645,213,696 vhosts.
12:38<LouWestin>If your domain is with your hosting provider then ask them about changing that over.
12:42<LouWestin>Or you could transfer your domain name out to another provider like Porkbun for example
12:43<LouWestin>Then point to Linode.
12:43<Peng>You don't have to use Linode's DNS service, though.
12:43<Peng>You can if you want to.
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12:58<Rouge>and in these vps
12:59<Rouge>i get it root right?
12:59<Rouge>can i put other than irc?
12:59<Rouge>if ii want to host a file for mining
12:59<Rouge>is it possible?
13:00<Peng>What's mining?
13:00<Peng>You can host files, unless they're illegal, or violate the terms of service in other ways.
13:00<Rouge>crypto currency
13:00<Rouge>for mining bitcoin
13:00<Rouge>its not illegal
13:00<Rouge>it is legal
13:01<millisa>The TOS is here:
13:03<nb>Rouge, my interpretation would be mining could fall under Misuse of System Resources: Intentional misuse of system resources, including but not limited to employing programs that consume excessive network capacity, CPU cycles, or disk IO.
13:03<nb>and generally, it's just not polite to mine on virtual systems
13:03<Peng>Mining is verboten.
13:03<Peng>Hosting mining-related files, whatever that means, is fine.
13:04<Rouge>ok got it
13:04<Rouge>but its fine if i want to run right?
13:05<Rouge>and how long to setup after linode receive payment?
13:05<Peng>Instant, usually.
13:05<Rouge>i mean hosting mining related files
13:05<Rouge>support at 24/7?
13:06<Rouge>let say if i have problem to install psy or znc and so on
13:06<nb>Rouge, no
13:07<nb>Rouge, linode is unmanaged hosting provider
13:07<nb>they provide the virtual server. they do not provide support for applications you may decide to install
13:07<Rouge>ok then?
13:07<nb>unless you purchase linode managed, then they do some monitoring, etc.
13:07<nb>Rouge, but yes, support is 24/7 i believe
13:07<millisa>Or their professional services for one-off sysadmin tasks
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13:32*JamesTK pokes everyone
13:32<JamesTK>Eugene: !
13:32<linbot>It vends! a pork bun
13:32<millisa>For all your domain needs
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13:47<Eugene>!lick zifnab
13:47<linbot>Eugene: Point given to zifnab. (20) (Biggest fan: eugene, total: 17)
13:47<zifnab>Eugene: my bathroom smells wet. I blame you.
13:47<Eugene>Not my hair
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14:03<Peng>I have too many /64s and /56es. :X
15:28<linbot>New news from kernels: Latest 64 bit (5.1.2-x86_64-linode124) <> || Latest 32 bit (5.1.2-x86-linode144) <> || 4.14.120-x86_64-linode125 <> || 4.14.120-x86-linode145 <>
15:29<Peng>4.14 is up to 120!?
15:37<hawk>4.14.121 even, apparently
15:37<hawk>4.9.178 and 4.4.180 are things as well
15:38<LouWestin>Didn’t someone mention a bug with 5.1.2?
15:44<@blaboon>we have observed issues with system uptime being incorrectly reported on more recent kernels, but that appears to have been resolved starting with 5.1.2
15:45<gparent>that sucks, how am I gonna brag about not applying security updates for months on end?
15:45<gparent>I need reliable uptime
15:46<LouWestin>blaboon: ok thanks. I had up time reporting issues with a previous kernel. I think 117
15:46<gparent>or is it load thats broken?
15:46<LouWestin>But that’s been resolved
15:47<nb>anyone know what was changed with GRUB 2 - 2019-05-08?
15:47*nb wonders if they happened to add the patches to support BLS
15:47<@blaboon>nb: we added support for BLS with that version of grub
15:47<nb>blaboon, great!
15:47<@blaboon>i actually pinged you here last week when we rolled it out, but you must have been afk
15:47<nb>blaboon, oh ok, thanks
15:47*nb sometimes forgets to attach his client to his ZNC for this network
15:48<@blaboon>actually i guess it's been 2 weeks now....time flies
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18:10<bobby> how do iredirect non www to www in my virtual host - unning apache2
18:10<millisa>2 vhosts.
18:12<millisa>1 vhost has your servername and serveralias for all the names you want to redir. the vhost with servername is the one you don't have the redir in
18:13<millisa>I prefer using Redirect or RedirectMatch over rewriterules for that myself.
18:14<millisa>something more like: RedirectMatch 301 ^(?!/\.well-known/)(.*)$1
18:15<bobby>i created redirect.conf
18:16<millisa>something like that probably would work for port 80.
18:17<bobby>it doesnt seem to redirec at all
18:17<millisa>did you reload apache (and if you are doing this with ubuntu/debian a2enwhatever the conf?)
18:19<bobby>yes irestarted apache2
18:20<millisa>pastebin your output of 'apachectl -S'
18:23<millisa>I don't see a redir.conf in there
18:23<millisa>It still has a config for site1.conf in the 000-site1.conf
18:23<millisa>(this would be easier if you didnt modify the pastes)
18:25<bobby>its not picking up my redirect,conf
18:25<millisa>Did you do the a2ensite step?
18:26<millisa>(assuming debian/ubuntu)
18:26<bobby>the what step
18:26<millisa> step 7
18:27<bobby>Site redirect already enabled
18:30<bobby>now i see redirect.conf is -S command
18:33<bobby>sytill nothing
18:38<bobby>any other thoughts
18:39<millisa>other than pasting the output of your apachectl -S that now shows the file getting included and seeing what it says/
18:39<millisa>it tells you which vhosts are going to be used and in what order.
18:42<millisa>Line 6. See how it has defined already?
18:42<millisa>well, 6/7.
18:42<millisa>The redirect.conf is processing later for the same name. the first one is going to get precedence.
18:42<bobby>that makes sense
18:43<millisa>so either put your redir domains in an earlier conf file or probably more correct - don't define the name in the earlier conf
18:44<bobby>ok servername is www. and removed server alias
18:44<bobby>still nothing
18:48<millisa>what is the site?
18:48<millisa>(stop redacting)
18:50<millisa>I got redir'd to www on the https side
18:50<bobby> ?
18:50<bobby>doesn't redirect to www
18:50<millisa>you didn't setup a vhost for https to do that
18:50<bobby>oh http does work!@
18:50<bobby>can i add the 443 inside redirect.conf?
18:51<millisa>you could put a 443 vhost there, sure
18:51<millisa>do the same sort of thing for 443 but base it on your 443 vhost config (you'll need cert stuff)
18:52<bobby>what do u mean by base it
18:52<millisa>you have your 443 vhost config in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default-le-ssl.conf
18:53<millisa>a 443 vhost has a few more lines to it than a port 80 vhost
18:53<millisa>base the 443 vhost in your redir.conf off the one in your 000-default-le-ssl conf
18:54<millisa>base as in 'use it as a basis'
18:54<millisa>(in case that was a language question)
18:54<bobby>are you referring to the bottom liones spoecifically?
18:55<millisa>the bottom lines of what?
18:56<bobby>this is my ssl file
18:56<bobby>what am i looking for?
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18:57<millisa>lines 2-24 with line 19 changed to the non-www address and a similar redirect line as you put in your port 80 redir vhost
18:58<millisa>Even though you don't have the non-www address defined in that conf specifically - it is your *only* vhost configured on port 443 so it ends up being your default vhost on 443
18:58<bobby>boom this seems to wormk :)
18:58<bobby>!point millisa
18:58<linbot>bobby: Point given to millisa. (84) (Biggest fan: relidy, total: 17)
18:58<bobby>makes sense as to what happened
18:59<bobby>the alias causing conflict
18:59<bobby>thank you :)
19:00<millisa>sure thing
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